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If the American media is run by "cultural Marxists"

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If the American media is run by "cultural Marxists" like you say, then what are some TV shows or movies that portray Marxism positively? Not immigration, not homosexuality: actual Marxism.
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None, because "cultural Marxists" don't exist. It's Nazi propaganda that refers to basically anyone left of center, heck, even fucking center and right-leaning people like Hillary.
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the goal of marxism is to abolish the state, create anarchy then establish communism from the rubble. they are doing this by destroying the nuclear family, the foundation of all civilized society
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>>86663262
Well yeah I agree. I'm an actual Marxist. I just know /tv/ is reactionary as fuck so I want to hear their reasoning.
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they can't do that yet, communism is still considered an extreme/radical ideology
instead, they promote the same things cultural marxists promote. today, it's homosexuality and interracial couples. tomorrow, it's anarchy and atheism
slippery slope
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>>86663289
Are there any writings where the plan you're talking about is explicitly laid out?
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>>86663426

Dont forget the eradication of Christianity, they on the same page with that. (((cant imagine why)))
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>>86663452
Yeah, the protocols of the elders of zion
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>>86663262
>It's Nazi propaganda
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There's michael moore I guess.

>>86663426

Ok man. I don't need an invisible sky wizard to be anti-communist.
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>>86663536
It's a forgery. And it doesn't even mention immigration.
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>>86663600
Michael Moore has defended Marx? He seems like a social democrat to me.
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>>86663184
>actual Marxism
You won't find any example because cultural marxists is not real marxism and both ideologies are in some ways even incompatible.
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>>86663647
>cultural marxism*
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We had Marxist Propaganda, most don't like admitting it though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yzjk-m2vtc
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>>86663184

The media is run by jews
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>>86663690
Thanks for the first actually good example. Or the first example of anything in this thread. As a leftist I'm willing to admit Star Trek was /ourshow/.
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>>86663184
Identity politics are Marxist. Take your fucking pick.
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>>86663184
Cultural Marxism us a conspiracy theory made up by people who don't understand the world. Naturally Marxist interpretation of culture is a real thing but it has nothing to do with current changes.
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Cultural marxism simply means relativism. "Postmodern" has also been used as a synonym.
I honestly don't give a shit how Google defines them, they've been meme terms for at least a decade. That's what they mean here.
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"Cultural marxism" is a very bad term to describe the new left. Marxism is a pretty good term to describe the old left.
Problem is that new left and old left have practically nothing in common.
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>>86663770
Marxism is a collectivist ideology, identity politics are not Marxist.
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>>86663523
actually, a lot of people wanting the eradication of Christianity are extreme-right, because Jesus is a jew, and the entire religion promotes tolerance and love to others (and guess which group exploits this one)
i've seen countless times how insane amounts of dsgeneracies amd sicknesses of the soul are all absolved of criticism with "thou shalt not judge"
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>>86663184
>like you say
I never said that.
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>>86663393
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kill yourself
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>>86663944
Great reasoning.
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>doesn't understand what "cultural Marxism" is
>thinks /tv/ is one person
>unironically calling people reactionaries
>unironically being a Marxist

kill yourself you troglodyte
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>>86663262
>Fool detected
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>>86663849
It's all about identity politics. It used to be bourgeoisie vs. proletariat, now it's privileged vs. oppressed. The Bolsheviks rounded up and killed all the kulaks because they were privileged. Or are you a "not real marxism" retard?
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>>86663968
why do redditors always think everything is some fucking debate, and feel the need to throw a spergfit when a post isn't an argument? i'm not arguing with you, fucking autist.
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>>86664094
Because you have nothing to stand on.
You can go back to Sneedposting now.
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Anyone else remembers the internet about 15 years ago when there was no alt-right and all the "red-pilled" kids were commies instead?
I miss those days when the red-pilled kids called me racist. Today they call me niggerloving cuck.

o tempora o mores
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>>86664133
stand on for what? I'm not "reasoning" worth you, ultrasperg. i'm laughing at your silly ass. I don't really need anything to stand on to do that.
Now shoo back to /leftypol/ or your reddit page or discord. Now.
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>>86664094
>redditors
Have you ever been on /pol/?
Every post that goes against their narrative is hopped on with Soucre????? Not and argument!!!!! Post proof!!
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>>86663602
>It's a forgery
Proof?
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>>86664166
radical centrist detected
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>>86664229
yeah, when they're having a debate, or when someone is making a claim. what claim am i making?
Ah, leftists. Imagine being this dense.
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>>86664257
You claimed he should kill himself.
Where's the reasoning behind it?
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>>86663849
>it's an edgy college student doesn't understand his own ideology thread

Back to r/socialism
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>>86664166
Not 4chan faggot.
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>>86664250

right, because anyone who isnt on either fucking extreme, foaming at the mouth and fighting in the streets, is a centrist, you absolute mongoloid
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>>866642
Not a claim. An order.
ITT: Far left in pic related
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>>86663184

relax OP, they're on the way I'm sure

I never thought just a couple years ago we'd see protests in the streets waving soviet flags, but here we are..
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>>86664371
cringe
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>>86664442
Yeah, this thread is.
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>>86664442
>reddit term

Back you go
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>>86663184
That is because "cultural Marxists" found Marxist societies in real life to be vulgar. They had very little positive to say about the Soviet Union and its satellite states, the best potential for their version of Communism was in the western countries with rich cultures. Cultural Marxism is a critical tool/lens, one which its acolytes believed could change the world, now just something that is used by critics to signal how big of a cunt they are.

At the end of the day most Marxists don't know enough about the concrete world to realize that there is significant asymmetry between culture and the economy.
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>>86664371
>has literally 10x the amount of text as the MAGApedes image
the right cant meme
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>>86663860

During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.

Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".
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>>86664498
>reddit spacing
Please leave
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>>86664511
>x can't meme
Did you ever think to consider we don't WANT to "meme"? Maybe being able "to meme" should be reserved to your middle school lunch table chats about the front page of iFunny.co
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Marxism and dialectical materialism is pseudoscience.

When will it finally die?
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Funny how nobody gave a single example.
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>>86664371
Is this supposed to be like the magapedes image but a lot worse?
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>>86664583
when you stop bumping shitty offtopic threads on the television & film board
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>>86664574
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Surplus value isn't real.
Surplus value is theoretically impossible because the working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.

The only entity that exploits you is the government and corporations that get special anti-free market privileges from the government.
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>>86664653
Are you made so angry by an image that you had to reply to it twice?
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>>86663184
cultural marxism is literally an white supremacist/alt-right conspiracy theory used to justify discomfort with society and social values changing. the world is becoming more multicultural and white people aren't as relevant as they used to be. boo fucking hoo. better blame the jews XD

plus, they're STILL butthurt, even 50+ years later, that we all prefer socialism to fascism.
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>>86664655
I literally saged, you dumb faggot.
I bet you forgot to sage you retard.

>>86664713
Fascism and socialism are VERY similar.
You are all the same shit.
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>>86664649
Why did you ignore >>86664074? Almost like this is a b8 thread and you don't want actual replies.
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>>86664694
Nice try faggot but only one reply is mine
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>>86664713
Why is the destruction of an entire race of people okay?

What if africa was colonized and invaded by whites or asians and blacks were going to be extinct in 3 generations?
Would you be okay with that?
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>>86664166
15 years ago I was spending my summer playing CS, shit-messaging on ICQ with friends, and listening to Blink, Green Day, and other poser punk bands. No matter how shit people think those things are, they are still better than what culture has devolved into today.
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>>86664668
Yeah, bud, I'm sure people that literally unironically accuse others of not being able "to meme" as an insult are the ones without fedoras. Literal self-admitted memelords who take pride in their ability "to meme" and think having the epicest memes is a plus for their fringe far left political ideology? Totally well adjusted normal not losers.

>>86664779
Ok.
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Marxism is a fucking religion.
If you actually read what marx actually wrote, it reads like L Ron Hubbard scientology shit.

90% of it makes little to no sense.

>muh surplus value
>muh alienation
>muh everything is classes
>muh all human action is the result of economic forces
lol

They actually deny human evolution, instincts and neuroscience too.
The entire thing is a fucking joke.
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>>86663559
It is tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
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>>86664649
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helo is dis were I gum to taug abou gobbunism :D
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>>86664782
>Why is the destruction of an entire race of people okay?
/pol/ and the daily stormer are rotting your brain, friend

white people are not anywhere close to destruction and you're paranoid if you think that's the case
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>>86663184
Modern Family - Pretty obvious its a cuck show. Gays adopted minority children. Both straight dads play second to the moms I guess. Every character is fighting against traditional values or making jokes about it.

American Ninja Warrior - They focus on women all the time. Women can complete the course just as good as men, yaaaaasss. Every player has some sort of sob story. I miss the Japanese show a lot.

Law & Order SVU - It criticizes men in most every episode and paints womens as victims. Not always, but every episode involves rape.

Big Bang Theory - The most masculine character is "dumb." Everyone else is totally effeminate. They transformed Penny. Bernadette is the man of the house.

Any show that jabs at normalcy with no end goal is probably cultural marxism. You have to remember there is no end goal except destruction of everything. So it can be hard to point out. The endless criticism of Trump is cultural marxism in action.
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you'll only get meme answers here because in actuality the media exists to support capitalism, not encourage dissent of it.
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>>86664855
Praxeology is the only way desu

plus marx has already been objectively debunked. And not just in the labor theory of value, too

>>86664908
H-haha stop noticing objective statistics bigot
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>>86664855
>communism is against human nature!!!!!!!
r/shittankiessay is looking for you
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>>86664967

name one successful communist state
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A friendly reminder if it wasn't for Marx autismbux wouldn't exist.
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>>86664908
>/pol/ and the daily stormer are rotting your brain, friend
why do you believe this?

>white people are not anywhere close to destruction
lol are you completely ignorant of social trends
white people are going to be like an eighth of what they are now in 100 years
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>>86664958
>H-haha stop noticing objective statistics bigot
Watch this video in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbxVfSqtt8
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>>86664967
>offandedly mentions random commie reddit page like it's some zinger we're all supposed to know
Haha holy shit like pottery
I'd hide your head in shame if I were you desu
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>>86664908
>white people aren't as relevant as they used to be, who cares?
>whoa white people are still relevant what are you talking about you conspiratard?
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>>86664522
>christian identity

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86665052
I'd rather commit arson then watch your faggot clown jewtube channels
I mean holy shit dude if you actually spend time watching e celebs and recommending e celebs to others rethink your life NOW
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>>86664855
The communist manifesto is literally retarded gigastupid shit for teenage girls, high school posers and dumb russian factory workers who couldn't read.
Das kapital isn't totally braindead but you'll never see modern day """""""""marxists"""""""" who have actually read it because it's longer than 30 pages.
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>>86664823
It's not about who has the dankest memes, it's about lurking long enough to have a bare minimum understanding the joke before you try to make your own or comment on it, something you fail at like most of /pol/ and reddit.
That meme looks like it was made by someone crying tears of frustration over being mocked online. It is shit.
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>>86664967
>knows the name of some obscure subreddit

Reminder that 100% of commie faggots are from reddit.
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>>86664967
>WE'RE NOT AGAINST HUMAN NATURE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I keep hearing this butthurt commie whining but you faggots have literally nothing to back it up.

Dialectical materialism says all human action is the result of economic forces.
It completely denies human nature and neuroscience.
It's complete PSEUDOSCIENCE on par with scientology.

Wouldn't you agree?
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>>86663860
But the actual Bible can be pretty conservative in its values. Jesus was the first Christian because he's Christ. The left hates religion much more because it promotes conservative values and would police their degenerate behaviour.
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>>86665066
>false equivalencies
white people are less relevant, but they're not anywhere near extinction.

>>86665047
>white people are going to be like an eighth of what they are now in 100 years
white people have reached a population plateau, so that's not surprising. still, blaming jews or cultural marxism for white people not having more kids is fucking insane.
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>>86664371
>someone was so butthurt about the magapedes pic he made this atrocity

Hilarious
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>>86665132
>GRRR I AM DESCRIBING AT LENGTH THE ANGER PEOPLE THAT MAKE FUN OF ME MUST FEEL THIS IS A NORMAL THING THAT PEOPLE THAT ARENT ANGRY DO ALSO GUESS HOW PEOPLE THAT MAKE FUN OF ME LOOK LIKE?? THATS RIGHT, THEYRE UGLY
Go outside
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>>86665059
>its a commie page
>>86665043
All Communist states have been successful. Unfortunately the capitalists can't let that happen and actively work to sabotage them .
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>>86665257

so you cant name any then?
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>>86665236
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>>86665121
The video contains sources to back up why you are wrong on this. What's the harm in watching it or at least observing the sources? If you're so confident in your views then surely you can refute each claim, no?
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>>86665150
>implying reddit isn't a libertarian hellhole
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Cultural Marxism is a contradiction in terms. Marxists believe that material conditions shape a society's culture. Any to attempt to change a society's material conditions through the manipulation of culture is, strictly speaking, NOT Marxist whatsoever. It was Antonio Gramsci who flipped the base/superstructure dialectic and what's most ironic is it's the alt-right culture warriors who adhere to this flipped dialectic the most - thus making THEM the actual """Cultural Marxists."""
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What part of "cultural" is unclear?

Class identity is weak, and Marxist ideology has been proven to fail. Therefore, the only way to get people to willingly follow it is to destroy all other identities and cultures so that Marxist class identity becomes the default. That's why the Left attacks family, Christianity, masculinity, history, morality, beauty - anything good is the target, because only with the complete destruction of good can evil triumph. And Marxism is one of the most evil ideologies ever created (by a Jew, naturally).
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>>86665298
>implying I give a shit
You clearly regularly visit. Stay there.
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>>86663690
it really is disgusting, projecting this horseshit onto mark twain like this.
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>>86663818
This. Some elements of the new left can be traced to marxism, but it's most certainly not marxist.
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>>86665257
Can you name any that weren't 2nd or 3rd world or didn't commit genocide or mind control everyone?
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>>86665287
All of them are in their own way slowly bringing about socialist revolution
Its like saying name a successful free market capitalist state during fuedal times. We haven't reached the stage of true socialism yet, we are still in the capitalist one. Soon that will change
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>>86665198
The magapedes image was.. pro /pol/, dude. think of this image as a corollary. get a clue, and stop feverishly replying to the same post over and over like a loon.
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>>86665368
A lot of the modern left can be described as a secular theocracy. which has its roots in fascism
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>>86663184
How people can be this dumb?
I fucking cringe every time when i see some 'murican dumb fuck with soviet flag.

person who actually was born in USSR.
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>>86665332
>Therefore, the only way to get people to willingly follow it is to destroy all other identities and cultures so that Marxist class identity becomes the default.
And how's that working out for these supposed "cultural marxists"?
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>>86665292
All the "anti-anti-sjw" e celebs are sweaty ugly weirdos. in the name of much needed social ostracization no one of dignity should give them the time of day.
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>>86665403
>true socialism has never been attempted

There it is
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>>86664958
>Praxeology
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You can tell this thread is filled with mouthbreathing Americans
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pretty spooky thread brehs
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Marx a kike himself wrote about the Jewish question. He declared Judaism the religion of money, and thought it was crap. Pol should be agreeing with him following this logic.

Communism vs capitalism is a false dichotomy, Adolf thought they were both kike ideologies.

Old fashioned commies were against immigration and identity politics, as all the race/gender bullshit was diverting from the social class issues; a wealthy woman is more privileged than an underpaid factory worker, and if there is unemployment in a country, then priority should go towards helping its own people before bringing in foreigners.

Today's commies are trotskists, not marxists. Most are 20yo college bourgeois who will never work in a factory.
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>>86665403
>Soon that will change
You mean after capitalism will invent robots to make all hard work and clean toilets?
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>>86665432
Can I hear your sob story about how the commies took your family's fortune and killed over 6 gorillion citizens including all your family and how life was so shit under communism?
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>>86665411
Take your meds, faggot, not everyone mocking your dumbass post is the same person.
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Donald Trump has proven there is no good, no Illuminati, no bilderberg, no trilateral commission, no system, no globalists and everything happens by chance.

Been Shapiro is right that the internet has too much unwanted self importance and are just pale faced fools who masturbate to Japanese cartoons.
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>>86664074
>privileged vs. oppressed
That's the entire left-wing, not only communism, and the bolsheviks did not kill all kulaks.
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>>86665484
You haven't actually read any literature coming from austria or boston. You saw a meme from /leftypol/ once and based your entire belief around a vast, wide-reaching subject around it because you're a pea brained schmuck.
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>>86665403

ah they were successful in that almost none of them exist today and the ones that do are poverty ridden totalitarian third world shitholes

wasnt the time for """""""""""""true""""""""""""" socialism in 1917?

gonna be waiting a long time for that revolution at this rate of "success"
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>>86665432
>person who actually was born in USSR.
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>>86665298
how the fuck do you know it? also reddit and memey nice you're 100% reddit fuck time to go back.
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>>86665515
Agreed, the ideology is off the charts
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>>86665533
Then why are you absolutely seething at the accusation like a tantrum-throwing toddler?
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>gultural gommunism meme
>mfw if /pol/yps actually read the frankfurt school they'd find themselves agreeing with the vast majority of what they wrote
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Post yfw every leftist """""""intellectual""""" like chomsky was praising Venezuela barely 2 decades ago
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>>86664649

It's not about positively portraying communism, but denigrating everything about Western civilization.

However, since you asked, how about Comrade Detective?
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>>86665471
That's not a refutation of anything but okay.
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>>86665482
Is that what I said retarded frog poster?
It has been attempt but is constantly being thwarted. Soon though late capitalism will fall requiring the universal implementation of communism meaning it can't be sabotaged by capitalists. Then full communism will be universal until it too is supplanted by a better system.
Read about something before you try to argue it.
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>>86665558
They want the thing that didn't work to come back because everything in present makes them miserable. Grass is greener etc.
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>>86665624
>late capitalism will fall
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY UNIRONICALLY BELIEVE THIS
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>>86665529
Actually commies deported my great grandfather from Moscow to Siberia shithole in halfbroken house, with all his family.
He fought in WW2 and survived but hated commies.

And my mother stayed in long lines to get food for babies.
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>>86665606
No, they wouldn't, retard. Far less people would come to agree with you on any subject you have any opinion about than you think.
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>>86665554
>muh lefty /pol/

I have actually studied economics in college, and I know your fringe cult is garbage virtually no professional economist takes seriously. Go back to masturbate to your fantasies at mises.org
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>>86665558
According to polls, most Russians like Putin, and want Stalin back
Russians are retarded
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>>86665568
>doesn't even read the comic before posting
Average rightist everyone
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>>86665624
What should I read that will tell the future, my clairvoyant 22 year old?
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>>86665659
Frankfurt School was reactionary as fuck. /pol/ would like them if they weren't Jewish.
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>>86665558
You know how polls work.
It is all propaganda and wishful thinking.
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>>86665606
they deny neuroscience, evolution and instincts
why would /pol/ agree with them?

>>86665515
>dude eat your parents, who need friends?
enjoy your crippling depression

>>86665592
>muh ideology
zizek is a joke
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>>86665650
>everything in present makes them miserable.
That's capitalism for you
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>>86665696
so is your life, no need to be rude about it
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>>86665601
Yes, it's all a conspiracy, all posts you don't like are made by me, you dumb nigger
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>>86665624
>Soon though late capitalism will fall requiring the universal implementation of communism

Prove this. You're going to say something retarded like muh automation even though home self employment is massively on the rise with things like online retail, stream/caming, consultation, commissions, robinhood, crypto and good old fashioned shilling. You're some dinosaur crying about automation when your peers are actual living in the present and keeping their eyes on the future.
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>>86665697
Capitalism is only good when it's free market capitalism.
Just saying "capitalism" can mean many things and only serves to confuse
socialists are fucking dumb
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>>86665734
The dialectic is in motion
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Trumbo
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Well, Lord of War 100% tells you what it is. Everyone is greedy and self-involved, and people who pretend like they're not are fucking liars. All capitalism is, is being honest.
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>>86665676
>>86665692
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>>86665623
I'm not refuting anything mega-autist. I'm laughing at you for being pathetic enough to actually think the shit these people make is bearable or passes as anything except schizo sleep paralysis logs about seeing internet nazis when one stays up late. Be more embarrassed.
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>>86665185
>white people are declining in power and number
So what's wrong with taking steps to reverse this trend? Why shouldn't whites fight to stay on top?
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Why is TV shows or films being blatantly obvious about promoting actual marxism the only thing that can prove the media are cultural marxists? Not only are these two different things, but its pretty narrow minded to judge such a thing based only such a specific category
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>>86665529
Americans are absolute fucking subhumans.
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>>86665734
>>86665624
THIS

Automation will only create more jobs as the price of capital comes down.
It's impossible for all jobs to disappear.

Also the entire economy is a mess thanks to central banks.
Abolish them and the economy will come back full force.
Fuck neo-keynesianism
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>It's not real capitalism
Lol
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>>86664782
>Why is the destruction of an entire race of people okay?
Pro-tip, every culture in anthropological history that reached a certain developmental point started having negative birth-rates. Contrary to what you stupid fucks think about race-mixing in Scandinavia, there is concerted efforts/propaganda campaigns by the government to get people to have more kids, and they aren't having them. Its not the nig-nogs and the dune coons' fault that your people aren't having enough kids to replace the ones rotting in the ground, and if you want to maintain a stable population that isn't going to fuck your economy backwards immigration is currently the only viable answer.

But by all means keep your virgin ass bitching on an irrelevant forum about white people not having enough pure-breed babies and how its a Judaeo-bolshevik plot to kill your entire race off.
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>>86665684
Start with all of Marx's work. From there Ernest Mandel, Kropotkin, and Trostsky if you're interested (but Trotsky was a hack)
>>86665651
You sure proved me wrong!
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>>86665606
One guy being rich does not degrade a poor person. Capitalism creates a better culture. This guy probably wants to live in a cave and be bossed around by mommy.
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>>86665676
Name one thing Stalin did wrong. I'll wait.
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>>86665676
according to polls and popular vote most americans wanted hillary as a president. americans are retarded.
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>>86665664
>I have actually studied economics in college
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy FUCK
Hopefully this is bait and this unintentional gold is actually secretly intentional.
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>>86665624
>tfw was false flagging as a commie and made almost this exact post the other day

wew I thought I might have gone too far in some places, but you guys really are this retarded.
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>Sweet communist
>The communist daughter
>Standing on the sea-weed water
Is this the cultural marxism I hear so much about?
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>>86665767
>I'm not refuting anything
Well, at least you're honest. I'll take that as your concession.
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https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-documents-expose-direct-us-military-intelligence-influence-on-1-800-movies-and-tv-shows-36433107c307

Really fires up those neurons
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>>86665809
>central banking is real capitalism
LOL
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>>86665824
>Killed more Communists than anyone besides Mao
Based Stalin
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>>86665809
meant for >>86665752
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>>86665828
I cannot parse anything meaningful from this post
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>>86665622
USA is not a part of Western civilization. USA is an example of global civilization with destructive capitalist culture.
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>>86665688
You've overused your shitty buzzwords so much you're actually, without a hint of self awareness, calling the Frankfurt School Of Critical Theory "reactionary". what a time to be alive. what an era.
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>>86665889
>killed more jews than americans ever did
based Joe.
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>>86665821
>Start with all of Marx's work
It's pseudoscience though.
I honestly can't believe people believe this shit.

If you actually read what marx actually wrote, it reads like L Ron Hubbard scientology shit.

90% of it makes little to no sense.

>muh surplus value
>muh alienation
>muh everything is classes
>muh all human action is the result of economic forces
lol

They actually deny human evolution, instincts and neuroscience too.
The entire thing is a fucking joke.
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>>86665052
>white genocide isn't real because no one is rounding up whites and gassing them!
>but if someone was doing that, it would be a good thing
Amazing video that you have there, comrade. I seriously believe that you must have a mental illness in order to be a leftist. Indeed, Jews are well-known for their high propensity for mental illness, so it makes sense.

How do you even look at yourself in a mirror without wanting to kill yourself?
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>>86665894
People find such solace in the idea that it's all being orchestrated by some global cabal of people who have it out for us, because it appeals more to us than the truth that we brought it about ourselves by being weak.
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>>86665722
Seething.
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>>86665918

Keep crying, bitch nigga.
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>>86665899
>dude breathing is evil, it caused trillions of deaths

Why do socialists not understand the correlation/causation fallacy?
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>>86665403
Maybe you should go to Venezuela where a true Socialist Revolutionary like yourself can enjoy life. They have the best stores where no one restocks because fuck Capitalism.
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>>86665845
I really hope this is faked
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>>86665935
>had more Jewish government than any in American history

Based papa Joe
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>>86665918
>destructive capitalist culture.
what do you mean? we are globalist, but what exactly did we do wrong by practicing capitalism?
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Taking marxism is to its logical endpoint means destroying the family as family connections, passed down family knowledge and familial support structures is an advantage that the oppressor class has over the oppressed class. You will never reach equality when little timmy has a mom and dad who cares while tommy lives in an orphanage and tammy has no extended family in her life.
Destruction of the the family is the end goal. Don't let them pretend otherwise. You see this now with people attacking legacy, inheritance systems and the ever present meme debate that is commoncore.
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>>86665855
Seriously. You just linked a Shaun and Jen video to someone as a recommended source. I have extremely secondhand embarrassment. You're wrong and a joke a priori, i don't need to rebut anything.
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>>86665918
>destructive capitalist culture.
Capitalism only creates.
Statism destroys.
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>>86665924
Yes, they were reactionary. They were elitist, conservative and against revolutionary praxis.
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>>86665441

The destruction of Western civilization is working pretty well. But as we saw with the Democratic primary, shitskins don't give a shit about troo communism - they vote for gibes and fuck whitey.
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>>86665936 >>86664855
Why are you posting the same thing over and over? You aren't a shill with only a few copy/paste talking points are you?
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>>86665991
>what are pogroms?
also usa has 6 million jews while eastern Europe and Georgia almost to none.
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>Angela Merkel and the neoliberal right are the biggest proponents of corporatism to ever exist
b-but they're totally secret commies, r-right guys
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>>86665403
>true socialism
Why can't you realize that you are being brainwashed?
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>>86665982
>tfw Venezuela was doing real socialism until it wasn't

Fucking capitalists
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>tfw just want to kill the upper class
>tfw forever gonna be lumped in with liberal genderqueer pseudo-Marxists
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>>86665845
Wow, sports and urbanization are an evil plot by commies to destroy white america. We must prevent these demonic things
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>this thread is still here
>communism is something even worth discussing
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>>86666065
>rich jews use dumb fucks to push communism while they're getting rich behind scenes
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>86665887
>Private ownership of the MOP
>wage labor
>commodity production in a market economy
"It's not real capitalism"
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>>86665845
Hmm
Where is this from?
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>be commie
>promote socialism
>others come along also supporting socialism but with their own perspective and adjustments
>it's called national socialism
>OMG HOW DARE YOU YOU EVIL VILE BIGOTED FREAKS EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU DESERVE TO BE VIOLENTLY KILLED AND YOUR CIVILIZATION DESTROYED
wew
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>>86665998
I'm not against capitalism. But USA destroys local cultures with its capitalist cultural imperialism. Globalism has nothing to do with communism or socialism.
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>>86665912
haha

>>86666032
you just typed the equivalent of barf. Your brain is made entirely of worms. You are the low-res textured area the developers didn't intend for you to go to. You are told and you repeat back. You're the human equivalent of an npc. go the fuck back to whatever subreddit you hang out in. Now.
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>>86666044
>Why are you posting the same thing over and over?
Because it proves you wrong and makes you upset?
This is TOO EASY.

>>86666065
>MUH NEOLIBERAL
Kill yourself.
This word is fucking useless and only used by useful idiots.
There is nothing new or liberal about merkel or the EU.
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>>86665961

Why not both? You don't even need a cabal - it's simply in the nature of the Jew to be a nation-wrecker. It's our race's misfortune that they look similar to us, and so can wreak such havoc from within our nations. But you're quite right that none of this would be happening if we didn't listen to them.
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>>86666117
I hate national socialism, but I hate democratic socialism more tbqh lades
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>austrian school """""economics"""""

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86666078

Cry me a motherfucker river.

Nothing is bad in the US. In fact, it's really, really fucking good. You're out of your fucking tree and I hope you fall out of it. Bunch of butthurt, mealy-mouth fucks.
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>>86666117
Don't lump nazis in with socialists commie scum
We want to crush socialists
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>>86666023
>capitalism only creates
Capitalism creates what people want to consume. Most people are idiots, so capitalism creates mostly entertainment for idiots.
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>>86666078
Even leftypol gargles islam's balls and defends it at every turn. Not to mention their discord is literally 30 beta orbiters orbiting some ugly tranny.
The genderqueer shit is inescapable.

You have to realize by now the only true way forward is roman catholic distributism.
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>>86666151
I'm really sure you're actually laughing in real life and not super frustrated and on the verge of tears that now one in this thread is taking your emotional breakdown seriously.
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>>86665918

There is no such thing as "capitalist culture", because Marx's fundamental assumption regarding the base-superstructure arrangement is wrong.
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>>86666016
pic related

>>86665980
see above

>>86666041
>shitskins don't give a shit about troo communism
So you agree "cultural marxism" is a meme and has nothing to do with Marxism? Good, glad we can agree.
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>>86666108
AHHAHAHAHHA
I love the marxist definition of capitalism.
It's so fucking vague and useless.
According to them Venezuela and Switzerland are exactly the same and there's no need to differentiate their two incredibly different economic systems because they are both "capitalism".

It's so fucking stupid and worthless.

I mean even China and North Korea are capitalist to you retards.

Why do countries that have the freest markets for long periods of time have the highest living standards for the working class?
You brainwashed marxist retards.
Kill yourself.
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>>86666140
It is new, and it is the logical conclusion to and the true death of capitalism. There is no stopping the corporations, no revolutions, no laws, nothing. It's over. We lost. It is now just a slow slide down into dehumanization. My will to live deteriorates with every coming day.
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>>86666194

Your Nazi God Hitler loved Islam as well
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>>86666199
Yes, I'm literally crying now, I feel really intimidated by fringe pseudoscience that has no weight in the real world
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>>86666140
You got me. Internet guy posting knows more than over a hundred years of Marxist thought.
Great meme too, I'm now a fascist because of it
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>>86666087
Do you really believe what you just wrote?
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>>86666151
>central banking
>keynesianism
>marxism


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86666230
You can call it American global culture. It doesn't matter what you call it, it's still a destructive force and it has nothing to do with Marxism.
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>>86666169
>Nothing is bad in the US. In fact, it's really, really fucking good.
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>86666194
>Marxists gargle the balls of any religion
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>>86666117
While not espousing a specific economic philosophy, Hitler employed anti-semitic themes to attack economic systems in other countries, associating ethnic Jews with both communism ("Jewish Bolsheviks") and capitalism, both of which he opposed.[21][22]

The German economy, like those of many other western nations, suffered the effects of the Great Depression with unemployment soaring around the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[1] The Nazis came to power in the midst of Great Depression. The unemployment rate at that point in time was close to 30%.[27] By 1938 unemployment was practically extinct.[10] Wages increased by 10.9% in real terms during this period.[2]

>this guy can fix your country's economy with ONE SIMPLE TRICK!
>Jewish banks HATE him!
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>>86666138
>you just typed the equivalent of barf. Your brain is made entirely of worms. You are the low-res textured area the developers didn't intend for you to go to. You are told and you repeat back. You're the human equivalent of an npc. go the fuck back to whatever subreddit you hang out in. Now.
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>>86666259
I'm not a fucking nazi or fascist, you sniffling europhile. Nearly everything that has ever come out of germany has been retarded.
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>>86666259

You're applying attributes to the right wing that simply aren't true. Everybody hates hitler, and you can only cry wolf so much until the village doesn't come to your aid.
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>>86665257
>All Communist states have been successful. Unfortunately the capitalists can't let that happen and actively work to sabotage them .
What a retard you are
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>>86665185
Cultural marxism is responsible
>Immigration, therefore
>Miscenegagion
>Open homosexuality
>Transgenderism
>Divorce
>Porn
>Hedonistic lifestyles replacing settling down
>Abortion promoting the aforementioned increase in hedonism
>Feminism which makes women independant and choosing hedonism over settling down
>Women in workforce as a direct cause of feminism which led to wagedumps, leading to less stay-at-home moms, less resources for families and less children
All of which has led to a decrease
Now, whether or not Jews are responsible for cultural marxism or if that even is a valid term the things that could be labeled as cultural marxism which I just pointed out demonstrably lead to less white children
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>>86666253
>true death of capitalism
lmao you people are so fucking hopeful and it's so cute

capitalism isn't going anywhere and it will never collapse

automation will only decrease the cost of capital goods leading to more and more jobs being created

it's central banks that are hindering this right now but it's still happening

capitalism will never collapse
lol
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>>86666266
>Internet guy posting knows more than over a hundred years of Marxist thought.
Seeing how you can't refute anything I've said in this thread I can tell that you're butthurt as fuck.
Marxism is legitimately retarded and flawed on the most basic level.

>muh surplus value
>muh alienation
>muh everything is classes
>muh all human action is the result of economic forces
lol

They actually deny human evolution, instincts and neuroscience too.
The entire thing is a fucking joke.
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>>86666244
Yeah, it's not an argument. I don't have all night to watch le epic e celebs and argue with people on 4chan about those e celebs, how much more time is it going to take before you realize you're not worth anybody arguing with?

>>86666264
Gosh, really? Marxism makes you that upset?

>>86666319
Holy shit dude, nobody wants to argue with some guy throwing an embarrassing meltdown. Compose yourself, get an opinion that's at least a little bit not a joke and the we'll talk.
>>
Anyone give me a quick rundown on cultural marxism?
What are the key texts of it that I should be reading?
Who are the major thinkers of it?
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>>86666310
Trick indeed. He tricked the whole nation preparing it to a destructive war that ultimately destroyed Germany.
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>>86666309
Literally every marxist I've ever met in real life or online has a fucking hard on for Islam.
30 years ago it was "Eastern philosophy" like nu-buddhism.
I'm convinced it's because far-leftists fetishize the Other while far-rightists abhor it.
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>>86666308
Why are leftypol memes so terrible

>le ebul boss man exploiting me
How does it feel that your precious revolution will never happen and nobody supports you.
Also there are no inevitable laws of history neither.
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>>86666308

Not an Australian, shitfucker.

The great emu war really did a number on those fucktards.
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>>86666301
Central banking is widely, and succesfully, used everywhere. Only complete lunatics, the fringe of the fringe, reject them.
Keynesianism got adopted into the neoclassical synthesis, the dominant (by far), orthodox view in the field of economics.
I don't give a shit about marxism.

The austrian school? A laughing stock, hasn't contributed anything of use in decades, virtually no one with education takes it seriously.
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>>86665558
Polan here. Many people claim communism was good here as well.

I blame nostalgia for that. And maybe the fact that since everyone was poor and isolated from the rest of the world, people were actually happier. You didn't have kikebook and instagram to tell you how shit your life is compared to others and corruption is really all the same. Not to mention how the standard of living is also about the same for many people.
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>>86665788

Leftists do not argue in good faith. Don't expect rationality or reason - they are only here to manipulate and lie to you, because their ideology is logically-unsound.
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>>86666346
I pity your willful ignorance.
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>>86666398
>automation will only decrease the cost of capital goods leading to more and more jobs being created
he actually believes this
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>>86666192
>no freedom for you
Communism only creates what your "genius" elite rulers decide you should consume.
Thank you master.png
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>>86663690
False.

STTNG was fascism.
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>>86666428
Marxism is pseudoscientific too, just like the Austrian school.

Both irrelevant in contemporary economics
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>>86663184
In Time
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>>86666377
What you going to do about it Cletus, you are a disgrace to the white race and choose to follow a ideology that died out cause it couldn't survive the battle of the fittest.
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>>86666491
>Central banking is widely, and succesfully, used everywhere.

>solely responsible for the global economic collapse and resulting economic stagnation
>successful
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why do you bootlickers even fucking try?

>Keynesianism got adopted into the neoclassical synthesis, the dominant (by far), orthodox view in the field of economics.
and it's resulted in a massive failure and is a piece of shit when compared to america's free market period from 1870s to 1890s when there was no central bank and there was a massive economic BOOM

Austrians have debunked keynesians for ages and keynesians are TOO SCARED to debate.
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>>86666525
>I pity your willful ignorance.
I pity you not being able to name even one successful commie or socialist state. You can't name one, because there isn't one.
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>>86666515
>Don't expect rationality or reason - they are only here to manipulate and lie to you, because their ideology is logically-unsound.
How's highschool treating you?
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>>86666249
>because they are both "capitalism"
They are.

http://archive.boston.com/business/articles/2010/07/18/despite_chavez_venezuela_economy_not_socialist/

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/18/socialism-private-sector-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade.html

>I mean even China and North Korea are capitalist to you retards.
"North Korea replaced Communism with Juche ideology in its 1992 and 1998 Constitutional revision[5] for the personal cult of Kim's family dictatorship and (albeit reluctanly) opening of North Korean market economy reform" Do you honestly still believe China is commie? Not even most pro-capitalists i've debated agree with you.
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>>86666530
>he actually denies reality
he thinks people won't take advantage of cheaper capital costs and use this to increase production

your entire ideology is a fucking joke
automation has always done this, it's been happening forever
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>>86666423
All you've said is the same lines over and over.
Surplus value, alienation, classes, economic factors are all real things which if you'd ever had a job and weren't some comfortable middle class stooge you'd understand what its like to be alienated from your work and everything else.
I'm a trained welder and instead of using my skills all I do is weld two similar pieces of pipe together in factory all week. It's alienating and my value goes to waste.
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>>86666377
>Immigration
That's capitalism. In Germany it started in the 60s during Adenauer's government.

Most of your post is wrong too. Many conservative countries suffer from everything you mentioned. For example Japan. Of course now you will say that Japan is somehow culturally Marxist, lol.
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>>86663184
People talking about that genuinely don't know what they're talking about and lump liberals, democrats and Marxists together to make a simplified enemy for right-wingers to rally against.
>You don't agree with this view. Well clearly you secretly are a marxist!
Every totalitarian ideology tries to lump all the other ideologies under one banner to make a more visible enemy to rally against.
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>>86666444
Well you've met all those Marxists so you must be right. Nevermind what Marx actually says about religion
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>>86666550
What idelogy are you even refferring to? Why do you call me Cletus? I'm not even an american nor did anything in my post imply I was. Has your moronic leftist brain fried so you're seeing your imaginary boogeymen everywhere?
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>>86666540
And your Keynesian anarcho-centrist shit is any better at predicting anything ever? fuck it, everything is a pseudo-science because all interpretation of reality and metanarratives are equally flawed.
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>>86666530
So why are there more types jobs today despite the leaps and bounds we've made in automation already?
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>>86665818
>every culture that reached a certain point in development had a negative birth rate
This is not only an untrue but a ludicrous statement. If that were true, we would never have advanced past a certain point in the past.

>governments are actually trying to raise birth rates!
Wow, a commie is lying again. What a shock.

>immigrants who suck up welfare, take away jobs, burden social services, and vote to take away more and more of what belongs to you aren't the problem!
Yeah, you're right. It's our fault for not killing or deporting them all. That needs to change.

>we need to keep the economy running at all costs!
This is why people blame the Jews.
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>>86664166
15 years ago I was cybering with girls on inklink at shockwave.com and playing Diablo II. Even had an internet girlfriend for a bit.
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>>86666594
>They are.
According to the socialist definition, yes.
It doesn't matter though because this definition is extremely vague and useless.
According to this definition Venezuela, north korea and SWITZERLAND are exactly the same.
This definition is fucking useless.

Clearly levels of economic freedom is a more useful metric.
I don't care about muh "capitalism".

> Do you honestly still believe China is commie?
No, that's why I said according to strict marxist/socialist definitions they are capitalist.

That's why capitalism is a useless vague word that only serves to confuse.
What is important is economic freedom vs lack of economic freedom.

Are you mad I am taking away your useless shitty vague term?
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>>86666444
According to Marx "religion is the opiate of the masses," fool. That's a core to Marxism.
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>>86666572
>>solely responsible for the global economic collapse and resulting economic stagnation

*tips tinfoil fedora*

>and it's resulted in a massive failure and is a piece of shit when compared to america's free market period from 1870s to 1890s when there was no central bank and there was a massive economic BOOM

Oh yes, the 20th century was such a period of stagnation and lack of economic progress, right! Silly me! Of course!

>Austrians have debunked keynesians for ages and keynesians are TOO SCARED to debate.

Austrians haven't debunked shit other than their own reputation as economists
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>>86666622
Why was chomsky and every leftist under the sky praising the hell out of Venezuela barely 2 decades ago?
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>>86666631
Japan is the most westernized country in the world. Of course they're somewhat culturally marxist. It's undeniable they have elements of it.
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>>86666377
why is this a problem? why are people more concerned about there being more homogeneous, straight, conservative, repressed white men than people expressing themselves and being individuals? why is collectivism more important than individualism?
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>>86666613
>your ideology
>my ideology
>having ideology
https://libcom.org/files/Stirner_The_Ego_and_Its_Own.pdf
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>>86666702
Porn has been around for years before the internet along with hedonism and mixing of the different races and cultures and yet you keep crying and crying, no wonder that giant nigger sitting the white house can't get shit done, cause Bannon was holding him back
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>>86666764
>>86666677
Actions > words
Why is nearly every islamophile in the modern day a marxist or leftist?
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>>86666023
>Capitalism only creates.
Yeah, tell that to Detroit.
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>>86663184
You do realize communists don't like faggots and faggotry in general right?

Are you fucking stupid or just pretend to be?
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>>86666818
It was never as widespread and easily available and true-to-life as it is today.
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>>86666799

Not him, but I'm a pure cynic. Called a centrist by those who choose to make definitions of others. You're both wrong, 100% retarded and go fuck yourself.

People who accept things for what they are, without criticism are their own enemy.
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>>86666820
They're liberals mostly which is not Communist.
Liberals are as much of a threat to the revolution as conservatives and fascists.
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>>86666799
>having the ideology of the self-proclaimed cuckold
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>>86666594
Juche is literally communism with some Korean spirituality thrown in.
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>>86666830
Bad people did that to Detroit, not its economic system. Moron
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>>86666843
Everyone on the internet has never read a book and just like to talk out of their asses cause pol or tumblr told them so.
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>>86666793
So which successful country isn't culturally Marxist? Can you name at least one?
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>>86666879
>Bad people
Great analysis there, buddy.
>>
Reminder that arguing with /pol/ is redundant.
They need their political views to compensate for their own shortcomings.
They know they're wrong they just don't care.

Now tell us more how t's the jews fault sex is fun.
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>>86666752
>According to the socialist definition, yes.
I didn't know Fox News was socialist.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/18/socialism-private-sector-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade.html

>according to strict marxist/socialist definitions they are capitalist.
I didn't know Mises was socialist

https://mises.org/library/welcome-capitalist-china
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>>86666704
>anarcho-centrist

Are you having a stroke or something?
And yes, the neoclassical synthesis is actually useful at understanding reality.
And no, not everything is pseudoscience, and not all epistemology is equally flawed.
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>>86666614
>All you've said is the same lines over and over.
And you've YET to refute them 3 times already.
I'll keep posting this until you actually refute it.
Oh wait you can't.

>are all real things
No they're not, they are marxist pseudoscience.

>if you'd ever had a job
I'm right wing, statistically I actually have a job. Leftists are the jobless ones.

>alienated from your work
Just because capitalists own the means of production doesn't mean if the workers owned it, the workers would do better things with it.
Also most people don't want to work, nobody really feels "alienated" from their labour.

You people are fucking brainwashed tools.

>I'm a trained welder and instead of using my skills all I do is weld two similar pieces of pipe together in factory all week. It's alienating and my value goes to waste.
lmao you do this because the WILL OF CONSUMERS dictated the end product of whatever you are working on be created

Why the fuck should you be granted the scarce resources of society to do whatever the fuck you want to do? That means others have to waste their labour so you can build shit that other people MAY NOT WANT OR NEED.
Why would everyone waste time and labour just so YOU can build whatever the fuck you wanted?
Fucking idiot, kill yourself.
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>>86666881
It just pisses me off when 15 year old kids start talking about shit they don't understand.

How can people unironically believe that the USSR was basically made of tumblr redditors? It's just so fucking retarded.

Do they unironically believe that commies allowed degeneracy around them? jesus fuck just look at russia nowadays they put people on jail for being faggots
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>>86666851
There is a demand for it and people want it, its their personal responsibility to manage their jerk off time.
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>>86666862
>I'm a cynic
Do you mean in the philosophical sense or in the reddit sense?
Regardless of the fact that Cynicism is the reddit of philosophy
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>>86664921
Dad's are often idiots in sitcoms while the mom leads and disciplines the family. It is a funnier dynamic, Malcom in the Middle follows this routine and that's about as capitalist American as a show can be.
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>>86666879
Nah it's the death of the car industry.
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MODS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
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>>86666377
>Cultural marxism is responsible
>>Immigration
Don't know, but in France, immigration started under an extremely right-wing government, albeit with the intent to mitigate the damage from the Second World War.

And I say that being right-wing.
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>>86666873
Juche is economically marxist but is socially ethno-nationalist and they abort babies from women who were in China and Russia in order to "protect the Korean blood."
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>>86666377
I like how everything that was actually uncommon or outright banned in communist countries is not considered communist, kek.
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>>86666799
>stirnerism isn't an ideology
Oh stirncucks
when will you learn

>>86666830
Detroit is the result of government policy.
If detroit was a free market, it would be an economic powerhouse again.
Stay mad.
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>>86666970
Rightist stop being triggered
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>>86666916
You are obviously retarded so I dumbed it down drumpf style for you. You should be able to infer I meant corruption and greed
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>>86666796
Good luck maintaining that society. The beautiful, utopian, fanatically individualist society will have its birthrates decline, have its population splinter and revert to tribalism, and have its social trust shattered, and in a few generations replace itself with one that isn't utterly pathological and unsustainable. Take a good honest look at the West, take a good honest look at Germany, and tell me its sustainable. Tell me if Germany, with its below replacement rate fertility and mass immigration from cultures which are the antithesis of the values which you espouse, will survive.
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>alt right bullshit intensifies
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>>86666002
Not just destroying the family, but destroying anything that might provide an identity or outside vector for education. This means destroying the family, religion, race, nation, ethnicity, sex, history, art, beauty, literacy - anything that defines civilization is a threat to Marxism, which is why they endeavor for the destruction of society. Only when the world is a wasteland can "true communism" be built upon the ashes.
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>this entire thread minus OP
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>>86666898
The West pre-Enlightenment era. Most countries outside the West and Japan/Korea.
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>>86666951
It's cause the education system and parenting in the United States is a joke.
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>>86666936
>I didn't know Fox News was socialist.
Okay then lol,
according to Fox News AND socialist definitions they are capitalist.
You STILL cannot refute the fact that capitalism is a useless term.
You might as well be saying they are breathing and that is the source of their problems.

Clearly the problem here is that Venezuela has highly restricted economic freedom.

>I didn't know Mises was socialist
I also agree with the classical definition of the word capitalist.
I'm just saying it's useless and NOT the reason people are suffering. It's a vague and useless term.
For the millionth time.
Why do anti-free market shitholes like Venezuela suffer while pro-free market countries like Switzerland THRIVE?
How BTFO can you possibly be here?
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>>86666873
All reference to Marxism–Leninism was dropped in the revised 1998 constitution.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9608048/Lenin-and-Karl-Marx-statues-removed-from-North-Koreas-Kim-Il-sung-Square.html
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>>86666986
>>86667021
What happened to Detroit was mostly due to the monopolization of the auto industry, and the decision of those big companies to move most of their manufacturing to cheaper countries, thus leaving tons of Americans without jobs.

And I also could say that whatever went wrong with the communist countries was due to "bad people" and "corruption and greed". You guys are fucking retarded.
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>/leftypol/ gets BTFO on /pol/ so hard so often that they have permanently-gaped buttholes
>come to /tv/ to proselytize instead, tears and anal leakage flowing like a river
>get BTFO on /tv/ as well
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>>86667115
Why does Jason UnHUE say they are still communist and defends them on youtube?
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>>86667115
It is economically marxist/ Leninist though. It uses the economics of Leninism with Fascist social ideas.
>>
Why do socialist manchildren constantly get BTFO on this website?
I mean they don't even accept evolution as true.
How embarrassing.

Dialectical materialism and marxism contradicts with evolution and human instincts.
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>>86663184
Trumbo was literal commie propaganda. Nice film though
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>>86666898
Not today, no. You're either successful but unsustainable (the West, Japan/Korea) or sustainable but (in globalist economic terms) unsuccessful and irrelevant or embroiled in war/civil unrest/diseases (Most Islamic countries, Africa etc.
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>>86663770
Liberals (not Marxists) love identity politics because when it's applied insincerely, it totally neglects (and usually entirely eclipses) class-based politics. Every actual Marxist I know either loathes identity politics or thinks its generally applied in a harmful way (and I'd generally agree).
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>>86667180
>they don't even accept evolution as true.
Aren't these the American conservatives?
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>>86667136
Detroit had a leftist mayor since the 1950s lol

Also the federal reserve and american government policy destroyed detroit as well
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/lit/ here, why are brainlets so triggered by the very existence of gommunism?
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>>86667180
>deny evolution
What exactly do you mean by that?
>>
Get a job, commie.
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>>86667137
Is the maniac spewing his paranoia about the /leftypol/ boogeyman just one person? It seems so.
Get a grip, dude, nobody cares about that cesspool.
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>>86667213
>had a leftist mayor
I bet you believe the Democrats are actual leftists/Marxists and not capitalists at all.
>>
How is it that the killing of that nigger woth Skittles in florida by Peruvian kike has led to an epic shitstorm that has led to downgrade in race relations, the reemergence of Nazism and Everything now is political, like everything is now political.
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>>86667111
THIS

Socialists can only play the semantics game.
>>
Cultural Marxism isn't "real marxism" as the commies would put it. You look at a society and where their social boundaries are in terms of degeneracy and you anchor it further to the left through any means, books, tv shows, movies.

What do you see on prime time television? divorces, family breakdowns, casual drug-use, alcoholism, violence. Things that normal-well adjusted people in western-society view has a negative impact on their lives but these things are to be encouraged by the writers on the TV show.

Because the "goyim" or "proletariats" whatever commies call them, didn't accept communism in the economic sense, they're pushing it in the social sense. It will ultimately fail and alt-right fear mongering that it will bring western society to its knees are largely exaggeration.
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>>86667217
Because they're brainlets?
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>>86666953
Obviously. The issue here is that it lowers birthrates, and is a result of cultural marxism (because of lower inhibition and chastity and morals due to erosion of christian values.) I never claimed anything else.
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>>86667217
So you're comparing a real life person from the present to a fictional character written in the 1800s?
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>>86667136
Not sure why you are implying im a commie sympathiser when theres nothing about that in my post, or why you are calling me the retard. The monopolising and outsourcing of the auto industry was the result of greed and corruption. Brainlet.
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>>86667180
>Dialectical materialism and marxism contradicts with evolution and human instincts

Fun fact: Adam Smith (capitalist darling that no capitalist has actually read) and Karl Marx had practically symmetrical understandings of human nature.
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>>86667115
That doesn't mean they removed the Marxist practices.
North Korea treats the Kim family as deities, they aren't going to allow worship or reverence or even credit of anything relating to NK to any other figures than the Kim family.
All credit to Juche goes to the OG Kim, even though he stole most of it from Marx
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>>86666976
Cultural Marxism breeds moral relativism which is a main cause for immigration.
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>>86666951
This, if anything homosexuality was a penalty far longer in the USSR than it ever was in the west, and there was no sexual liberation like it was experienced in the West because part of communist doctrine was for the individual to have more of an intimate relationship with the state than with a girlfriend/boyfriend (which is usually historian's explanation for why the rapes by the Red army were especially brutal, since they were committed by autists who didn't know a thing about sex).
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>>86667054
>>86667026

That doesn't even make sense. Do you guys even think what you write?

Why would the "cultural Marxists" support minorities, their cultures and their history then? Why would they support Islam?

So are they supporting tribalism or do they want to create a world without nations and ethnicties. Both thinks are mutually exclusive.
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>>86663184
Trumbo
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>>86667217
There was like 70 straight years of demonization of communism in the United States education system has led to this
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>>86667259
Which cultural marxist theorist wrote about this?
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>>86667275
>Not sure why you are implying im a commie sympathiser
I'm saying the exact opposite you retard. I'm saying that blaming all on "bad people" and "greed and corruption" is fucking retarded and could also be applied at everything negative about the communist system. It's just a very shallow and counter productive way of viewing things.
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>>86667304
Because islam is against christianity on which the entire european culture is formed. They think that by getting islam in, the cultures will mix and any division will be abolished.
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>>86667111
>You STILL cannot refute the fact that capitalism is a useless term.
You keep saying this and yet the capitalism and its definition still remain.

>according to Fox News AND socialist definitions they are capitalist.
The fact that the private sector controls over 2/3 of its economy is more than enough for me and any sane person to see it is still capitalist.
>>
>>86667090
Which countries outside of the West and Japan/Korea are successful? South American states? Or maybe African states? Russia (lol)? Kazakhstan?

The West destroyed by the Thirty Year's War wasn't that successful if you ask me.
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>>86667329
my mom
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>>86667265
Countries with high birthrates are shit holes, case in point Africa.

A low birth rate means more time spent improving the quality of the children's skills and they live longer.
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>>86667315
McCarthy did nothing wrong.
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>>86667217
Jean Valjean only stayed 19 years in prison because he tried to break out numerous times. French law is stringent, but 19 years for a common robbery?

Jesus Christ, /lit/ at least try to read the books you quote.
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>>86667341
Read my posts you smug, retarded piece of shit, I specifically said I was dumbing it down in my original reply.
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>>86667265
Lower birth-rates aren't inherently bad, it's the constant stream of immigration that makes it so.

If we were a sane society we would be focussing on depopulating due to automation and wipe out of a large number of jobs.
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>>86667344
Islam and Christianity share similar moral laws and stories
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>>86667304
What they support or not is irrelevant, its the decisions they make with rationale that has been fostered in a cultural marxist mindset that has led to all those things I mentioned in my posts. They're obviously against tribalism but their actions will lead to it, because of simple human nature. Tribalism is ingrained in our DNA, its a part of the human experience.
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>>86665558
Stockholm-syndrome
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>>86667344
>christianity on which the entire european culture is formed
American education
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Got so many (You)'s in this thread just by saying meaningless entry-level gommunist catchphrases
Never change nazis cucks/neoliberal milquetoasts/delusional ayn randalls
:---DDDDDD
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>>86667400
No, that's stupid. Corrolation does not equal causation, and low birthrates is disastrous for any society, both economically, socially and culturally.
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>>86667452
Doesn't change the fact that they're against each other.

>>86667483
It is you retard. And I'm actually a euro.
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>>86666492
I've met many polish people who said they preferred the nazis conquering them than the commies.

Polan is fucked
>>
Why did Zimmerman killing Trayvon have to lead to a giant culture war and debate between virgin retards who have never read a book over the future of the world.
>>
>>86667422
Yes, and when you attempted to stop dumbing it down, you said it was "greed and corruption".
Can you stop dumbing it down (because it's making you look like an actual dumb person) and elaborate?
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>>86667341
He is a dope. It's not "bad people," it's that "greed and corruption" are literally baked into the institutional structure of modern corporations. You could shoot every living capitalist out of a cannon and at the end of the day, the people who spring up to replace them will have the same obligation to make as much money as possible for shareholders as the last guys (regardless of any damage done to the broader population, environment, even economy, etc -- these costs are all externalities).
>>
>>86667442
A low birthrate is fine, if its above the replacament rate. When you reach Germany tier degeneracy with a 1,5 birthrate then that shit is going to become apocalyptic in a few generations.
>>
>>86667529
Why did Princip killing Franz have to lead to a giant real war and debate between virgin retards who have never read a book over the future of the world
>>
>>86667525
What? Literally nobody here says this. They were probably joking.
>>
>>86667513
No it's not you mong. Rule of law predates christianity. Our culture is mainly based on greek philosophy. All the other achievements of the humanists and enlightenment were achieved AGAINST christianity.
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>>86667452
>love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do to you
>kill them wherever you find them, Al-Fitnah is worse than killing
i don't think so m8
>>
>>86667344
That's nonsense and you know it. It creates divisionis, not abolishes them.
>>
>>86667585
>>86667585
Well the ones I spoke to in Britain

take them back pls, I'm getting sick of hearing "sorry my english" over and over at work.
>>
>>86667569
Germany has a population density 4 times higher than the US. In what way is a low birthrate bad except for the welfare system?
>>
>>86667465
And I'm saying that most things you mentioned are the results of globalism and capitalism, not some mythical cultural Marxism.
>>
>>86667587
You goddamn retard you're skipping the era where christianity ruled over europe and did form it's culture. Yes it has greek roots but in the end of the day it was christianity that has formed it.

>>86667615
I know that. Cultural marxists don't. They don't know a lot of things unfortunately.

>>86667628
Oh that makes sense. I'm sorry brit, but the poles that have emigrated are some of the worst trash that couldn't find a way to live their lives here so they just ran. I empathize with you. Those guys are total retards. At least there's less crime in Poland though as they're gone.
>>
>>86667628
Are they 70+ and actually knew the Nazis or were they edgy children?
>>
>>86667153
It's more fascist than anything else
>>
>>86667525
They were really uneducated then considering the Nazis wanted to completely eradicate them as a nation.
>>
>>86667635
> In what way is a low birthrate bad except for the welfare system?
Capitalism is based off constant expansion, and practically relies on population growth to replenish and augment both the pool of labourers and consumers. If capitalism isn't growing, it collapses, and one way to ensure capitalism is growing is to bring more and more people into the labour force and into the institution of consumption
>>
>>86667590

Both believe adultery is sin, masturbation is sin, the traditional family structure, death penalty, atheism is bad, domination over the pagans, homosexuality is sin, etc...

Sure they got a few differences over bacon and alcohol but theory wise, they roughly very similar.
>>
>>86667690
>did form it's culture
If culture for you is coca cola man coming on christmas eve your right.
Our way of living our civilisational principals all these don't come from christianity.
How about you name all the big contributions of christianity?
>>
>>86667722
>>86667692
In a hundred years when Brexit finally happens, hopefully they'll go to Germany.

They're spamming the home office with citizenship requests atm
>>
The pope argues for doing something about climate change, help the poor and don't be a dick and the right wingers told him to fuck off. Amazes me how many people in the United States just want power but also obey the state, obey the police, obey everything but fuck the jews but worship Trump who also worships the Jews.
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>>86667748
Christianity does not believe in the death penalty
That old testament shit became obsolete.
Those things may be sins, but Jesus died for our sins remember? Committing a sin isn't a death sentence in Christianity like it is in Judaism and Islam.
>>
Saudi Wahabis and NeoNazis are very similar and it's surprising how hate groups of different races get along with each other real good.

Why does Europe and the Trump Administration sell out their countries to the worst form of Islam that believes in their destruction of their way of life and actively finds it.
>>
>>86667862
>Christianity does not believe in the death penalty
Every christian before the 20th century disagrees with you.

>That old testament shit became obsolete.
18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
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>>86667862
Americuck "kreeschans" believe in the DP because they're retards who see the old testament as "bible part 1"
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>>86667862
The highest support for the death penalty in the United States is in the Bible belt and lowest are in those secular/Christian in name only States.
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>>86667977
>because they're retards who see the old testament as "bible part 1"
You're a special kind of retard.
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>>86667845
Based Pope!
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Is the alt right composed of Christian's or athiests larpimg as Christian's. Can't believe any of those folks have ever set foot in a chruch since they keep talking about cartoon frogs.
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>>86668099
They're mostly atheists but they don't like bible bashing because of fedora memes.
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>>86668099
christlarpers
You will never see people with more disdain for christian teachings than them.
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>>86665614
i just realized 2000 was 2 decades ago
fvck
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>>86668099
Many of them are cultural christians i.e agnostics who realize atheism breeds moral relativism which itself breeds a whole slew of issues
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>>86668251
>They are non-relativist atheists who pretend to be christian because atheism leads to relativism
So they just can't explain why they hold the positions they hold so they hide behind God?
>>
>>86668325
No, they're pragmatic agnostics.
>>
>>86667990
So?
>>86667935
>Every christian before the 20th century disagrees with you
Every christcuck can suck a dick, thou shalt not kill is Christian law
>until everything is accomplished
Jesus dying on the cross was everything being accomplished, he fulfilled the law, "it is finished"
>>
>>86668379
>thou shalt not kill is Christian law
>he fulfilled the law, "it is finished"
So killing is a-ok then? Also the original says not murder and objectively doesn't include the death penalty as God himself handed out death penalties left and right

>Every christcuck can suck a dick, thou shalt not kill is Christian law
I have no idea what you are arguing for and I doubt you even know lol
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>>86668686
>So killing is a-ok then?
No, every law is superseded by Christ's law which includes not killing
>God himself handed out death penalties left and right
God doesn't need to follow his own law, hes fucking God he can do what he wants, law is for man.
>>
>>86668965
So why is Christ's law different then God's?
>God doesn't need to follow his own law, hes fucking God he can do what he wants, law is for man
Kek. When you try so hard to deny the death penalty in christianity that God breaks his own moral code and Jesus' will differs from God's.

I'm afraid the text doesn't say what you want it too sweetie
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>>86669108
>god
>moral code
Dude what? Why are you applying human shit to God?
>Jesus' will differs from God's
Yeah? THere would be no point in Jesus if he didn't. God sent Jesus to die for our sins, that goes against the entirety of the Old Testament where we die for our sins.
You don't understand the basic tenets of Christianity?
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>>86667553
What is wrong with you? The auto industry leaving Detroit was spurred on by a desire for profits (greed) and the race riots (partly) by politicians egging the black community into anti white hysteria (corruption). Coleman young then spent 2 decades being a terrible and corrupted mayor taking money from everyone and giving nothing of value back
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