>Netflix users who already pay to access the service could

I'll just pirate then.

>>86638100

you're already paying a tax by exorbitant prices paid to cable companies to get access to a big enough pipe.

>>86638100
I wonder how many people will suddenly become libertarian once they hear this

>>86638100

This is entirely because of ISP's lobbying congressmen. They raise charges to consumers, pocket a hefty profit, and refuse to upgrade their infrastructure.

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>>86638100

mock britbongs having the option to pay a tv license

literaly have to pay a netflix license

I've been pirating all my media for like two decades now. Won't affect me.

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Meanwhile I continue to pirate for Free in best available quality.

>>86638399
This news have been out for a few days. No one really cares since it's $1 expect for the average broke 4 chan user.

I steal everything I have so it won't bother me.

jews gonna jew

>>86638100
>first net neutrality
>now taxes on streaming

What the fuck? I was told Trump would clean up corporate lobbyist bullshit

They already tax my internet, they are trying to kill net neutrality, they tax soda, they tax all internet purchases. Rent and property taxes are at an alltime high while wages and salaries are stagnent.

“Why dont people go to the movies anymore? Why are millenials killing every industry besides Amazon and ISPS?”

Gee i wonder why

How can i become an educated neet? Im tired of the rat race. Just need enough cash to go to the bar once a week

>>86638399
I dont think you can get autism as an adult

>>86638490

>wahhh duh prices
>literally pays extra dollary doos for the alcoholic jew

no sympy for you. glad you get shit on

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>>86638441
>piracy
>phoneposting

this says it all

>>86638399
Libertarianism is a meme Victorian England showed us how shit people Conditions people's live would be like. You want to have a twopennyhangover as a bed?

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GOVERNMENT OUT REEEEEEEEEE

>>86638490
Sometimes it really does feel like jumping into a dark hole and staying there is better than seeing all the fucked up dumb shit day after day.

I'm jewing the jews every step of the way. You should never pay for anything that you can get for free. FACT.

lolamericans

More taxes, why not? Just tax anything with no reason

>>86638490
>Educated
>Neet

>>86638100
I'm already mad they tax online stores, even though they aren't based in the same state.

>>86638533
Go watch some netflix, priness.

>>86638100

>Get taxed on something you already pay for

America trying to out jew the BBC

>all these taxes
>waste it shitty military projects that don't even work
>meanwhile, infrastructure is crumbling and no national healthcare

Someone get me the fuck outta here

>>86638596
I am educated. Im an adult who lives away from mommy and daddy. I want to give up this life and live off the govt like half this board.

>>86638643
Hey, at least they can't tax your corpse... or can they

>>86638477
republicans are the ones pushing against net neutrality because muh unfair regulations
Democrats are the ones pushing for this tax because muh unfair free market

basically everyone is shit

>>86638676
It's called inheritance tax

The land of the free, lads
Taxes on oxygen when?

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Heh, I'll just continue streaming free with my multi plex of mirrors and switches to leave no trail ;)

fucking statists. STOP STEALING MY MONEY YOU FUCKS

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>>86638533
How am I supposed to post here while taking a shit?

And there is nothing wrong with piracy, only cuckolds pay for media.

>>86638679
net neutrality is objectively bad

>>86638676
Estate tax although it doesn't really impact you at all unless you die with $12 million or more in assets

>>86638100
So maybe Netflix can go to a "download the movie/show fully before watching so that it's not technically streaming for less money"-option then. Or are they going to tax any kind of downloading?

>>86638688
*death

>>86638679
net neutrality is what caused the ISP oligopoly in the first place, retard.

>>86638408
>and refuse to upgrade their infrastructure.

I don't get this, because it's usually the tax payers that pay for upgrading the infrastructure anyway. All the ISP have to do is pester the local government like they usually do.

>>86638726
wtf I love corporate cock raping my public developed technologies now

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>>86638726

sup brian

The streaming dream is dead anyway, with every publisher starting their own service (HBO, soon Disney and surely WB to follow) it's becoming so inconvenient to stream again that it's both easier and far cheaper to pirate. There was a short time where the convenience of Netflix made up for the price but thanks to jewish publishers and Netflix wanting to spend billions on their mostly garbage original programming we've come back to the problem Netflix was originally supposed to solve anyway. I'm sure there'll still be profits to be made but I also think a lot of people are going to go back to piracy again if they haven't already as the Netflix library gets shittier and shittier.

>>86638726
>>86638760
how so?

>>86638726
The internet's back bone is public. Kys.

>>86638726
(You)

>>86638799
Yes, let's give ISPs an option to block entire sites and make the internet second television shitfest, which is a big part of television decline in the first place.

Can't wait to pay more for something I am already paying for.

>>86638785
>>86638799
>>86638839
>>86638851
>>86638861
FUCK ME, I am a retard. for a moment I thought that net neutrality is against freedom.

Net neutrality is a good thing objectively, my bad.

>>86638932
it's against the freedom of natural monopolies to rape you in the ass

I live in east europe and only one dude in five that have netflix actually pays for it

the rest of us get these shared accounts we pay $2 dollars for

Dunno how thats profitable but I can live with that, wouldn't pay 10 dolla for sure

>>86638932
it is against freedom but a bad kind of freedom. this basically >>86639000

Publishers are trying to kill streaming anyway because they all want to create their own streaming platforms

for those of you who pirate media, what precautions do you go through

>they're not wrong

Yes they are wrong.

Taxes should be as low as possible so people can actually thrive and live their lives.

Governments are bloated cancerous tumors that destroy wealth.

Fuck you OP

>>86638785
wtf i love virtually no difference in behavior because Google already bans and restricts everything but people on welfare can still ruin social media now

>the price of streaming continues going up while the selection goes down

This shit is why I now pirate my shows

>>86639174
I go through the precaution of not living in a cuckold country.

>>86638446
>who cares, it's just a small tax
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt2
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt3
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt4
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt5
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt6
>who cares, it's just a small tax pt7

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nickel-and-diming

>>86639368
slippery slope is a fallacy dude come on

If they tax internet services, streaming is just the tip of the iceberg.

Vidya comes next, then social media, etc

US


Hahahahahahahhahhahahhahahahaa

>>86639392
calling arguments fallacies is a literal fallacy, retard

congrats you lost at your own retarded game

>>86639184
the difference is you would get throttled going on non-pozzed sites like 4chan assuming they didn't just lock you out entirely

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>>86639392
>slippery slope is a fallacy
Hellooooooo, JEW!

>>86639392
>slippery slope
>fallacy

Pick one, dumbfuck. Numerous real world examples of this. I'd love to know what's fallacious about this in your world of wikipedia articles and community college courses.

TAXATION IS THEFT

>>86638643
>no national healthcare
Do you really think socialist medicine can work in this country? Far too many fat people, shitskins, single mothers, and other leeches that the entire system will quickly collapse. We're not some small white European country.

>>86639442
>>86639456
>>86639460
>tfw you make an obvious joke but it's a tax thread and none of the autists get it

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You all laughed at the UK for TV licenses. Well, who's laughing now?

>>86638100

They did this in my country.

There is no way to justify the sales tax here - they just did it because the government are Jews.

But I'm going to drop Netflix for unrelated reasons anyway.

>>86639392
>>86639460
I never understood why slippery slope is a fallacy.

>make fun of 140 pound a year tv license
>get this even more expensive alternative
get fucked burgers

>>86639427
video games are taxed, social media isn't paid for

>>86639514
isn't porn illlegal in bong land already?
>>86639518
it's claimed its a fallacy because you can't truly know what the peoples' motivations are kinda like that /v/ mspaint comic of a guy shitting on a plate

>>86638100
Netflix already takes tax...

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>>86639513
>tfw you make an obvious joke

>>86638726

I'm not so sure about that anymore.

It seems a lot of corporations are benefitting from the monopoly provided by net-neutrality, while at the same excusing their behavior with "muh free market".

Then again, it's not like google would be threatened by net-neutrality, they'd just buy up all the bandwidth from the ISP.

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>>86638100
>VIOLATING THE NAP

UM NO SWEETIE

>>86638785
>>86638799
>>86638839
>>86638851
>>86638861
>>86639620
Free-market MOTHERFUCKERS. Shadilay! Praise Kekistan!

>>86639062

No, that's noram here too.

There's like 4 screens or something allowed. So I pay for Netflix, my roommate pays for another service, and we all just share them.

>>86639460
Not the guy you are talking to, but this >>86639368
sort of missed the point of this
>>86638446

There is going to be a day when you realize you are responsible for the things you guy and not corporations. No one is forcing you to pay for netflix if find it expensive.

There are only two certainties in life: death and taxes. Oh, just wait until every network starts their own streaming service, and you end up paying just as much, if not more, than you currently do for cable.

>>86639645
I know you're joking but god damn I fucking hate libertarians more than communists

>>86639509
>should we try something?
>naw let's give up and do nothing

Nice American """""""""""""exceptionalism"""""""""""""" you got there

>>86638100

The absolute state of America.

>>86639667
ITS ALREADY HAPPENING

DISNEY IS DOING ITS OWN NETFLIX

AND THEY HAVE THE NUCLEAR OPTION, SPORTS

>E S P N<

>>86639670
>hating free markets
Why do you enjoy being poor and enslaved to bankers, corporations and the government?
Why do you love central banks so much?

>>86639518

It's technically not a fallacy, but it's used in a lot of fallacious arguments.

I saw a video with some lawyer explaining Slippery Slop and another variant which was about using the same logic that has been deemed acceptable for Situation "A" and applying it Situation "B"...when talking about precedents.

>>86638358
fpbp
govt can get their greedy greasy fingers off webservices

>>86639734
>implying free markets can exist with natural monopolies or even for extended periods of time

>actually paying for your own subscriptions and not just mooching off your family and friends accounts

>>86639690

We get extra for online purchases here. The tax is meant to be purely for purchaes of goods and services in your locality.

When asked HOW this applies to online purchases, they just said;

>It's not fair we don't get anything from it

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>tfw strayan
>tfw I've never watched a single film or television show, since 2009
>tfw I'm free of the shitbox but not free of this place
>tfw shitposting is infinitely healthier and cheaper than the electric Jew, however

>>86639672
>Should we try something that is destined to fail due to various socioeconomic reasons?

No, we shouldn't, and you can't argue why without resorting to personal insults and appealing to emotion.

>>86639576
you dont pay taxes for playing mmos. specally foreight mmos or similar online games
social media is paid for. facebook's is a for-profit business

>>86639748
>>86638358
MPAA here we'll just lobby to tax any streamed data then

>>86639802
i wouldnt watch anything either with your download speeds

>tfw Americucks will need to pay an extra fee for the privilege of browsing their fetish porn because it's not 'vanilla' porn

>>86639777
Then regulate natural monopolies and let the rest of the economy be free market.
Problem solved.

>>86639870

>Trying to take on massive mediacorps that already have more bargaining power than you and own not just content networks that you have to buy into but also using your catalogues on their various shows
>picking a fight with them
>ever

Not going to happen. MPAA is feckless.

>>86639918

All working markets are regulated. There has never been a proven market without regulation.

I got taxed on my HBO Now subscription actually. What's up with that?

>>86639918
it was a free market guess what happened inb4 it's all the governments fault

>>86638781
they keep their infrastructure shitty, get the tax payers to pay for upgrading it, then use the money they got for upgrades to give themselves massive bonuses

>>86639174
i've pirating every single piece of media for the last 8 years without a single precaution because nobody cares here

>>86639810
>>86639672
Reminder that healthcare was cheap and of high quality in the 50s and 60s in usa BEFORE the government started overregulating it.

The solution to America's healthcare problem is the free market.

Look at how well Switzerland does with their mostly free market model.

>>86639934
>implying they wont just work together to fuck the consumer

>>86640034
>we need a free market!
>60-70% of populace votes against it
>okay well we just need a free market guise come on

>>86639518
Because one event taking place doesn't imply it's gonna repeat. You can get royal flush or win a lottery but good luck doing that consistently. These are random event so they are clear examples where slippery slope would be a fallacy. To see if it isn't you have to look at the causes, why do they want to increase the tax? Because they want more money. Will they want more money in the future? Taxation rate (at least for people & small companies) has been increasing for a long time, so probably yes. Does the event makes future repetition easier? Yes, taxing Netflix decreases their revenue, thus decreasing their bargain power when lobbying.
This isn't a slippery slope.

>>86639974
Bullshit
Usa during 1870s to 1890s was almost totally a free market with no central bank and it resulted in a massive increase in economic production and living standards for the working class increased.

>>86639987
It was never a free market desu.

>>86640082
>people always vote in their self interest
No

Also does it anger you that healthcare was affordable in America back when it was a free market?
You are such a shill it's unreal.

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>>86638100
Who the fuck do they think they are?

>>86640035

They're trying to but they often fail because working together somehow makes them both more incompetent.

That is one great thing about market is the more they pushed, they caused their own downfall because it led to more cord cutting and Pipe holders got together and were like, we can leverage content owners into being are bitches and still hold onto the pipe as if they care if they're internet providers and content holders and not content holders who also provide pipe.

They just switched it around and were like 'WE'RE HERE'

Where as massive corps like Disney are taking it in the ass and now all of a sudden they're starting a web platform. Surprise surprise.

It doesn't matter if they put their content behind a paywall.It will be put on the internet, where the pipe holder won't do anything to their customers. Meaning Pipe holder still wins.

Piracy works for ISPs. Not other way around. Same reason google doesn't do shit.

>>86638430
Where were you pirating movies in 1997?

>>86640102
>Usa during 1870s to 1890s was almost totally a free market with no central bank
>It was never a free market
?
>>86640165
just trying to point out how futile it is to try and convince people of the free market

>>86639518
slippery slope being a fallacy is the fallacy.
It's only called that by liberal jews who are trying to take something away while promising they won't take any more. Protip - they always come back for more

>>86639427
People that play video games deserve additional taxes. Being anti-art and anti-intellectual all while producing nothing of value should not come without severe consequences.

>>86640226
Not him but illegal VHS were a thing

>>86640102
>"There has never been a proven market without regulation"
>Usa during 1870s to 1890s was almost totally a free market
>Usa during 1870s to 1890s was ALMOST totally a free market

Where you born a faggot or did polishing cock just begin to appeal to you later in life?

>>86638100
tax is theft.

>>86639822
>facebook's is a for-profit business
Yeah and the advertisers pay taxes

>>86640226
>retarded millenials dont know you could trivially copy old media

>>86639974

What about the drug market?

I mean, I know it exists essentially BECAUSE of massive regulation...but since it's black market, the actual market itself is pretty free.

Or does beheadings count as regulation too?

(it probably does)

>>86640226
Kazaa nigga

>>86640226

My dad used to rent like 10 movies at a time from blockbuster and he had industrial decks capable of cleanly ripping vhs tapes without blur lines that you usually got when you tried.

We had a massive free collection.

>>86640336
>X non american alternative to this american platform is driving business away from us and reducing income tax
>lets tax people pre-emptively

>>86640201
here's a hypothetical:
>no net neutrality
>tax passes - enforced on all video streaming
>content producers cut deal with ISP to reduce cost for their stream
>ISPs throttle/block any unaffiliated streaming

>>86640340
>>86640371
>>86640296
I'm actually Gen X and I totally forgot about recording VHS from the video with two VHS players. Just cover that little hole with some tape and voila. Can't believe i didn't think about that when I made that post

>>86640371
same but at a lower scale
we still have them, what we no longer have is a vhs player that works

>>86640341
why do you think noggers shoot each all other time for? gotta get them corners my man

>>86638100
>local governments that spend like drunken sailors, need more shekels to pay for more socialism

I AM SHOCKED

>>86640341

If shit like Silk Road didn't get taken down I would agree with you or other tor onion sites that popped up to replace it.

That was most wild west of a market could get but that was still regulated. People that own forums still curate even if they're more liberal with how they do it.

Bitcoin came into existence largely to get around the banking industry and they stuck their big dick into it so now it's a crypto currency that works for them instead of against.

Which is also why they get DPR such a massive sentencing penalty. They wanted to make an example of a guy that tried to take violence off the streets(drug market)

but really that was mostly a show trial to make people think they nailed the problem down when they hadn't even scratched the surface.

I think violence of controlling street corners is what you get with an unregulated market. The high death tolls in urban places where guys are trying to get money shows you how 'An unregulated' market goes.

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>>86640226

I used to tape off of TV, and all porn and older movies used to get purchased at "car boot sales".

You could find video stores that rented pirated movies, but that was very rare.

The BIG movie piracy market was that era's equivalent of private trackers - catalogues ordered out of the back of Fangoria and other similar movie magazines.

>THOUSANDS OF TAPES!
>RARE! UNCUT!
>BEST DUBS AVAILABLE!

(pic only semi-related, it's from Video Mania, who were famous for being expensive BUT legitimate, as opposed to most other catalogs)

>>86639174
live in canada where the rcmp have stated they don't investigate or take these cases seriously

>>86638679
>Democrats are the ones pushing for this tax because muh unfair free market
There are democrats in Alabama, Louisiana, and West Virginia?

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>>86640566

Oh, also, in the early 2000's;

Lots of shops that rented/let you buy pirated movies that they had downloaded from the internet. VCD's from Chinatown were all the rage.

>>86639174
I have never gotten a love letter for it.

>>86639174
I used to use protowall/azureus but they didn't have an x64 version of protowall when I got my new computer and I got tired of turning on my p4 clunker so now I just watch streams.

>>86640458

Which was reason shit like SOPA got pushed back on.

Anything that encroaches on internet freedom is viciously fought if you haven't noticed. I mean shit FCC has easiest path to doing whatever they want with nobody stopping them and yet they haven't done anything?

The ISPs and other big dicks got together and told them to slow their roll. That's only reason they didn't go in immediately and change it back.

The dynamics have changed since Netflix started it's war with cable companies. Netflix has now because more of an auxiliary for cable companies like comcast where their content survives because of netflix.

it's all politics and backroom deals. Netflix did something behind the scenes that made cable companies back off their original approach otherwise FCC would have changed the rules already.

I think they're also worried about more government oversight since they already reclassified broadband. I have a feeling they're going to try and wait it out because they don't want more rules put on them accidentally that costs them more money.

Every time cable has tried to fight government, it has led to their monopoly being more regulated and not less.

If they push too hard, outsiders will push for anti-trust against big megacorps that own internet pipes.

That's only real threat to their hegemony.

Same thing happened to Microsoft in the 90s. And Bell phone company before them.

>>86640823
didn't they pass a sopa clone bill like 2 weeks later? also the ICANN move had no resistance

>>86638100
>mfw net neutrality is repealed and telecom companies get to keep their regional monopolies and my only internet options are cable/fiber that throttles my streams and unreliable dsl

>>86640941
the free market wills it

>>86640886

ICANN was going to happen or the internet would have balkanized.

I don't mean china/russia balkanize, I mean everyone deciding they didn't want our fingers in their pies.


The thing they passed after SOPA has no teeth. SOPA was the real threat.

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>>86638100
I cancelled after they released Nobody Speak. I got tired of the propaganda.

>>86640995
You're absolutely right and I apologize for my arrogance, insolence and ignorance.

>>86640995
>ICANN was going to happen or the internet would have balkanized.
Why? also that would literally be better than giving it to israe--I mean the UN

>>86640673
Yes, they're called niggers.

>>86641048

Because the entire world saw how we weaponized the internet and were using against our allies/trade partners to get a competitive advantage.

We weren't using it for defense. We were using it to find out details about trade deals and use it against our own allies.

It's probably one of the few things Obama did correctly. And if you think Israel is main power in the U.N, why were all the Warhawk Republicans against it?

Israel bank rolls most of the republicans. Republicans were against Icann moving control of domain structure to an independent body.

Your thinking doesn't make sense.

>>86638100
I don't use Netflix and their originals are too shit to pirate.
The dumb burgers that use the service may as well pay more for it.

>>86641156
what does any of that have to do with ICANN?

>>86639518
It's not always a fallacy. It's a fallacy when you say "gay marraige will lead to pedo marraige" as none of the arguments for the gays are applicable to the pedos. But it does work for taxes as a government can use the exact same argument to add another dollar then another dollar then another dollar. Only fallacious when the two things are unrelated.

>>86640229
It was almost a free market.
We learned what happen when markets are more free vs more oppressed.
Clearly things are better when they are more free.

You brainwashed statist idiot.

>>86641862
That's like saying you should just not bleed to death after you cut your wrist. Free market invariably leads to monopoly and stagnation, the only thing that prevents that to a degree is technological progress (see internet) otherwise it eventually leads to collapse in conquest or revolution.

>>86638100
Thanks Trump!

>>86640941
>>86640990
Regional monopolies are NOT the free market you brainwashed retards.

A freemarket would break up these special government privileges.

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>>86638100
>Netflix
Just pirate your stuff like everyone else.

>>86642051
Lmao the free market is what traditionally broke up monopolies. It's the government that gives special monopolistic privileges to corporations.

Also standard oil was never a monopoly.

The free market period in the United States from 1870s to 1890s with no central bank was the MOST PRODUCTIVE ERA IN AMERICAN HISTORY

You have nothing right now and can only lie about things.
Bootlicking idiot.
Enjoy being wrong.

>>86642072
>not a real free market, the market has to be bigger
>whoops your country's market isn't big enough goy...
>better start some free trade now goy, open your borders too
>>86642205
t. delusional ancap

>>86638100

>it's unfair to red box and movie theaters

It's a different service. Papa John's can deliver pizza to you in your home yet most fast food places don't. Should restaurants that deliver be taxed more because it's not fair that non-delivery places can't compete in the home?

Fucking people are retarded no wonder this country sucks so much.

>>86642230
This entire post isn't an argument.

I bet you are seething with rage right now that Switzerland is one of the top 3 free market counties on earth with free trade and they have the highest living standards on earth.

Lol

>central banks and inflation are good, goyim

>>86642230
>delusional
lol so the free market industrial revolution didn't happen in USA during the late 1800s?

You are a delusional retard.

>>86642449
The conditions that led to America becoming an economic powerhouse have very little to do with a "free market."

>>86642382
Yes economics make me rage so hard baby.
https://soundcloud.com/user-519115521/vox-day-free-trade-debate
>>86642449
Out of all the things in your post you deduced that I was denying history? I think you've got brain problems.