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Is he on the right? How far can you stretch suspension of disbelief

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Is he on the right?

How far can you stretch suspension of disbelief in fantasy genres? Why is that red guy cracking up like he heard the funniest joke in the world?
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Yeah, Maisie is on the left, Conan is in the middle.
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>m-muh dragons make everything ok
literally the worst argument there is
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>>86592522
he's on stage right

but to him he's on the left
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unless someone cast a low calorie burning spell on him, he is being a bitch
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>>86592547
Hello Redddit!
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>there's dragons in my show
>that means i shouldn't care about my health
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>>86592547
That's clever
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>>86592630
This is a Game of Reddit thread, isn't it?
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>This show has dragons so all the rules are out of the window
I like how it's fine to be fat because the show is unrealistic but rape is bad no matter what
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>>86592603
That's a bulletproof excuse. You can literally have a million plot holes,as long as your work has a supernatural element,you are in the clear!
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how could the overweight author's insert lose weight and still be his insert?
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>we have dragons so forget logic
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>>86592522
There's a difference between fantasy and inconsistency.
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>theres dragons and magic so nothing else has to make sense!

so if they made the sky green, water poisonous and everyone used giant dildos instead of swords, we should be okay with it because DRAGONS AND MAGIC?
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Dragons exist so I guess it's ok if Arya got stabbed multiple times and just ran it off... wait, that actually happened.
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i fucking hate fat people
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Gas all fat people
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>>86592522
>a fat normie

Is there anything worse?
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Fat people are literal trash. I dated a fat girl, i fucking know about that.
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>>86592720
Sam managed to lose weight in the books. His diet was essentially fish and small game while travelling on foot for leagues, would've been weird if he didn't.
Like the show.
But
>lol it's Fantasy!
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>>86593755
>traveling on land
>leagues
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>giving birth to a cloud
???
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>>86593982

shadow babby
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>>86593982

It's a cheeky British euphemism for brapping. I don't know why he brought it up.
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>>86594029
oh. right. that happened.
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>>86592632
They're talking about the character, not the actor
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>>86594059
kek
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It would be cool if he lost a tonne of weight like Drake Bell and ended up being hotter than Kit Harrington
Unlikely but cool
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>>86592522
Even fantasy stories require rules and logic. If people eat, shit and pay taxes in your fictional world, then people can logically lose weight too.
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>>86592748
But it is consistent.
Everyone on the show only got fatter, not thinner.
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>>86594161
Wait shit I meant Josh Peck
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>>86592522
>Why is that red guy cracking up like he heard the funniest joke in the world?

That guy's whole life revolves around unfunny jokes.
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I don't think Sam loses weight in the books either. People are actually remarking "damn I can't believe you're still fat even after the whole journey beyond the wall" n shit all the time.
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By his logic physical labor and exercise does nothing in Westeros.
So everyone should be a fat shit.
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Believe it or not you cant lose weight with just walking around.

Also John is one of the most intelligent and talented actors on the show. I hope he has more roles after.
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>>86594254
Exercise has literally no effect on being fat
It's all about the number of calories youeat
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>>86594133
And doesn't his character mostly eat bread,huge amounts of bread?
Don't really follow the show so I could be wrong.
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>>86594285
>Exercise has literally no effect on being fat
I mean, it does, but your second point is more salient
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>>86594269
He doesn't just walk around though. He doesn't eat in the story. He's never shown eating. He's been traveling and working hard at all times. It's reasonable to assume he's more concerned with saving the world than food, and yet he looks as though he eats nothing but cheeseburgers at all times.
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>>86594285
How do you stop being fat without burning any of that fat?
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this is Hurley from LOST all over again.
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Doesnt he actually get FIT in the books?
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>>86594285
Then why do doctors and nutritionists recommend exercise?
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>>86592522
absolutely not, remember pic related and how he purposely lost weight while on the show
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>>86594405

Because it's funny watching some fat fuck run around.
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>>86592522
he seems like the best bro out of the cast

also bran's actor seems to give a shit about the books
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>>86594413
forgot pic
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>>86594285
Your statements are contradictory. Exercise does have an effect on being fat since exercise helps burn extra calories which, if done right, will lead to a net negative caloric intake for a given day. Which will lead to weight loss.
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>>86594375
Calorie deficit
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>>86594610
Without any exercise? That will burn muscle mass before burning fat.
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>>86592522
Reminds me of this.
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>>86594610
Game of thrones is in a medieval setting, they haven't invented calories yet dumbfuck
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>>86594675
Yes because humans have evolved for millions of years to burn muscle instead of stored energy so they grow too weak to hunt and die fat and plump
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>>86594781
To be fair thats an autistic as fuck complaint
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>>86594781
>its just a game shut up

LEAD

WRITER
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>>86592607
he is on the stage, so he is stage left.
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>>86592522
Indeed, so explain to me how Sam is stil lfat
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>>86592547
take all of my upvotes!
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>>86594901
>trick your body into thinking there's a shortage of food
>don't exercise muscles so it knows you won't need them
>not expecting it to burn muscles to further reduce energy consumption enabling you to survive longer on less
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>>86593982
Watch the show or fuck off.
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Thoros dies Viscyrion's a wight dragon.
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>>86593888
>leagues
>A league is a unit of length (or, in various regions, area). It was common in Europe and Latin America, but is no longer an official unit in any nation. The word originally meant the distance a person could walk in an hour.
2 seconds google mang
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>>86595044
Muscle wastage from inactivity happens at a set rate, whether you're eating excess calories or not.

The only time that changes is when you run out of fat, at which point it'll cannibalise muscle tissue.
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>>86594285
actually it does, fat is a mixture of carbon and hydrogen that mixes with the air you breath to create carbondioxide and H2O
the more you exercise the more you breath, and the more you breath the more fat you burn
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>>86595103
>posting a shitty tumblr gif

Is this your master ruse?
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>>86595211
Arya kills Littlefinger
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had to draw a hard line when hotpie called quasimodo stark pretty
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>>86592522
If anything goes because it's a fantasy show, why can't he fly then?
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>>86595266
>posting year old leaks like you're some master hacker
you need to go back to facebook
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>>86595157
Not when the little you eat is high carb.
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>>86595331
Dany goes back to Westeros
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>>86592522
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>>86592522
those are not the same thing
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>>86595362
>it's just a fantasy show brah, laws of physics don't apply here just go away and be a ubernerd somewhere else
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Did fat man Sam ever shag based beauty Gilly?
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>>86592522
>How far can you stretch suspension of disbelief in fantasy genres?
Not much. Not only is he fat but he's also a virgin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfLiugkQnY
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>>86592522
honestly Sam should be slimmer since he got to the nights watch.
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>>86592547
No Carlos pic? What gives?
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Because he's right. People whine too much about other people being fat as if it's affecting them in any way. Basically the same way /pol/edditors whine when black people are even in the same building as them.
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>>86595540
"fat pink mast"
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>>86594960
Being that autistic is the only reason that series ever took off.
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>>86592522
>there's dragons and clouds so my body doesn't have to obey the laws of thermodynamics
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>>86594540
I agree but have you ever ran on a treadmill for a bit than look at the small amount of calories burned? It's depressing.
So much easier to just cut out soda.
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Is this really the best joke Conan's team could come up with? This is one of the most common quips people make about any kind of fantastical fiction.
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>>86595878
>Defending fatties
>m-muh /pol/
lol you're a loser
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>>86594969
stage left is our left

he's clearly on stage right which is his left but our right, right?
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>>86594960
The ghoul one, it was autistic
The jet one, is normie noticing bad raccord.
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>>86592630
Can't read basic english?
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>>86595157
Also that you say it's a "set rate" can be accelerated as proven by astronauts, then it isn't a fat stretch that in a sci-fi game there's a way of decelerate it.
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>>86595878
Assblasted fatty detected.
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>>86596299
BUENAS TARDES REDDITO
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>>86592522

How is Maisie actually attractive in this photo?

And, no, I'm not a virgin.
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>>86595878
>fattie libtard SEETHING so much about /pol/ that he works himself into a shoot about it in every thread
Now here comes the same old tired pics that he reposts endlessly.
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>>86596217
>>86596379
>>86596434
nonarguments. never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>86596434

>/pol-tard didn't just get triggered
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>>86596426
t. turbovirgin.

also fucksmall jpeg.
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>>86594176
Maybe it's an evolutionary trait to survive winter.
Metabolism slows down or maybe it converts sugar into fat better than in Earth.
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>>86592522
This argument is so fucking stupid and I see it far too often.
This show is praised for being gritty and realistic until someone points out how something doesn't make any sense.
>How is Sam still fat?
>UHHH IT'S A FANTASY SHOW, WE HAVE DRAGONS WHY CAN'T I BE FAT
>How is everyone teleporting around the continent like this?
>IT'S FANTASY, THERE ARE ICE ZOMBIES AND DRAGONS, HELLO?!!!
>It simply does not make any sense that Arya is able to deflect blows like that
>IT'S FUCKING FANTASY
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>>86594285
you are wrong but close to truth. It is not that exercise has literally no effect. Truth is exercise has a little effect on being fat.
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>>86596173
Or do both. And exercise is healthy and studies have shown it makes you feel better both physically and mentally. It's also a good character trait to have, as someone able to dedicate a portion of their time to fitness are also able to do so for other areas of life and work. Basically, I view sedentary people as lazy pieces of shit.
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>>86596487
I can't hear you over the sound of your necks slapping together sweetie
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>>86595356
ramsay cuts off theon's cock
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>>86592522
What is the fantastical element of a character defying logic and remaining fat? Is he using the established dragons or magic powers of the fantasy universe to remain fat? This is the problem everyone has with it.

In this fantasy show, things like the basic laws of physics have been established. In this fantasy show, death by starvation has been established a very real thing. There are food shortages. Why then, is Sam still fat? What have dragons have to do with it?
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>>86596765
Sam is secretly a dragon hiding in human form.
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>>86592522
I still remember seeing the first episode, and noticing not even half an hour in, someone did something very stupid and unreal like grabbing the sword by the edge
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>>86596655
That is absolutely disgusting.

How were they not gagging?
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>>86596873
Was he wearing armour, because you can do that in armour. It's made of metal and reinforced leather you see
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>>86596873
>someone did something very stupid and unreal like grabbing the sword by the edge
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>>86592522

Easy. It´s 2017. He is pregnant.
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>>86592522
Why is David Bowie laughing at the fatso?
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>>86596981
can't remember, was one of the guys at the very beggining scouting for the deads
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>>86597027
Don't talk shit about Andy Richter.
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>>86592522
This kind of logic never makes any sense. It's not like Sam cast a "stay fat no matter what" spell. He's still a human who went months with barely eating.
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>REEE S-STOP BEING F-FAT!!!! YOU'RE L-LITERALLY SUBHUMAN!!
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>>86592522
By that logic Sam should just be able to sit on Gillys back, and use her farts to propel himself through the air, making his trip back to winterfell much quicker.

I mean, they have dragons, so that means fuck logic, anything goes
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>tack on obvious fantasy elements
>this somehow means non-fantasy elements can be arbitrarily fucked with without explanation
I mean, sure, if you wanna be accused of being a lazy hack, go for that explanation.
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>>86592522
>he actually thought that was a good defense/argument to broadcast on national television on why he can be a fatfag

Wew I didn't know the actor playing sam was this much of a retard.
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>>86596478
Lardass.
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>>86597224
I mean fatties are literally subhuman
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>>86595878
>be GM of a restaurant
>it's always fat and or black people who eat all their food then complain about it
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>>86594442
If he made it we can make it too, bruhs.
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>>86597224
>>86595878
>Thread has absolutely nothing to do with politics
>Throw a shitfit about /pol/ anyway
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>>86597327
He's talking about suspension of disbelief. For someone to be okay with zombies, dragons, magic, real gods, and Damascus steel being literally the best thing on earth, but to draw the line at Sam being fat, is utterly ridiculous. Only people with an illogical hatred of fatties would bitch this much.
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>>86596254
no stage left is audience right. it's used from the subject's perspective...so he is stage left. If you were watching from the audience, he would be house right.
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>>86597445
Seriously it's getting fucking annoying
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>>86597476
so did someone cast a be fat spell on him or are people not able to lose wight in westeros lore
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>>86597476
So you're saying sam can conjure food out of thin air now so he can sustain himself being that large?
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>>86593201
>>86593250
word
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>>86592547
HA! upvoted.
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>>86597523
He's the priest of the Lord of Lard
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>>86597476
You only need your suspension of disbelief for the obvious stuff.

When a fantasy show starts fucking with basic things that are implied to be obviously the same as in reality is when it SoD starts to break down. People don't bitch about magic and dragons being unrealistic when they bitch about GoT, they bitch about character interactions and motivations being dumb or poorly written.
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>>86597523
>being this much of mongoloid
obviously it's nonsensical; the character would be emaciated by now. that's why you SUSPEND your DISBELIEF. what's the biological/physical basis for zombies or dragons? they're much too big too actually fly, but yet they do! WTF???? how do zombies with no muscles articulate? it's literally impossible!!! fucking hack!!!!!
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>>86597476
a show can have fantasy elements and still have internal consistency

they've mentioned starvation a bunch of times in the show
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But he did lost some, isn't he?
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>>86597617
dragons dont exist, humans do, last time i checked they were normal real humans
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>>86593707
dating trash demeans yourself
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>>86597476
see
>>86596599
>>86596765
>>86597204
>>86597275

The "it's fantasy so anything can happen!" argument is retarded. That logic would apply if, say, a stupidly huge kraken summoned by Euron attacked Dragonstone. I could believe that because the show has established fantastical elements like dragons and undead exist.

What fantastical element is Sam's fatbody exhibiting when the show has ALSO established that you can starve to death? Are you just supposed to ignore when some stupid nonsensical bullshit happens because "it's fantasy bruh"?
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>>86597640
No but the laws of physics do exist and dragons are not capable of flying as depicted. Levitation and other magic has never been shown, but zombies still move as well as real people do via some unseen force.

But the real issue is that the actor didn't lose weight, right?
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>>86594285
exercise level alters your maintenance requirement for calories
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>>86597476
>I don't know the difference between suspension of disbelief and internal consistency
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>>86597617
Then why did Dany care about her armies starving in Ep4? Why does the North care about stockpiling food for winter? Why did that father kill both himself and his daughter in that house if not because they ran out of food and he didn't want to see her starve to death?

If one the one hand you depict a world where people need to eat to survive and then have a character that somehow stays fat despite his lifestyle probably not allowing that then we have an issue with the narrative. Granted, it isn't a major one and I don't really give much of a shit, but you pretending there is no point there at all is disingenuous.
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>>86597445
Don't worry, it's just fatties being fat
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>>86597705
Maybe we should remove gravity from the equation while we're at it because if you're going to be a cunt about it, why not?

Sam can float through the air next season because he's a special snowflake.
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>>86597705
yes anon its stablished in the lore that dragons can fly and zombies can walk, even jamie lost a ton of weight when he was a captive but somehow sam magically can remain fat, stop trolling
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>>86597740
Name a single time someone in the show lost considerable weight due to starvation.

Oh wait, there isn't one. I propose the same handwave magic you unconsciously use when believing dragons can fly or skeletons can move is responsible for keeping him fat. Maybe it slows down his metabolism to the point that he is hitting maintenance, but also allows him to have the same energy as if he was eating normally. Makes as much sense as dragons flying or skeletons moving.
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>>86594968
He's right though who cares, it's literally a fucking game. You're just supposed to enjoy the gameplay
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>>86597476
HAHAHA point and laugh at this fatso everybody
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>>86592547
>>86592669

explain
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>>86596341
>Also that you say it's a "set rate" can be accelerated as proven by astronauts

Astronaut muscle inactivity is higher because they don't have to withstand gravity. Not doing anything on earth is far more strenuous than not doing anything in space.
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>>86597814
>Why do people care about food at all???
Because "not starving" and "not losing weight from eating little" are two different things. Didn't read past the second sentence.
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>>86597848
jamie
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>>86597939
Nope. He looked dirty and shitty but his character lost no muscle mass. Literally unwatchable!
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>>86595211
>>86595331
I think you fellas just got snagged by the master baiter
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>>86597705
Dragons being magical creatures get a free pass, as do the wights. Wights in particular, yes, you're correct, they are animated by some unseen force: the Walker's magic. This magic also causes them to be abnormally flammable.

Now if you can't answer what magic free pass shit Sam is pulling to remain fat, you seriously need to fuck off. You are literally just repeating the same retarded argument the actor is, that because fantasy stuff is there, that means ANYTHING goes.
Is Sam using magic, or whatever other established ASOIAF rule, to not shed a single pound? Or do you just ignore it because IT'S FANTASY.
Hint: one of these answers makes you a hack.

>But the real issue is that the actor didn't lose weight, right?
This, in the end, is the real answer, however. The actor does not want to put in the extra mile to lose weight, so the show has to still be written with him being a fat, slow, bumbling faggot. He DOES lose a significant amount of weight in the books on which this show is based.
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>>86597848
>Maybe it slows down his metabolism to the point that he is hitting maintenance, but also allows him to have the same energy as if he was eating normally.
That's just personal opinion. You have proved me that you don't know the difference between suspension of disbelief and internal consistency, then.
But I'll give you a hint:
Your personal opinion is showed nowhere on the show as an actual explanation or build up as to why or how he is still being fat. As opossed to dragons, dead people and shadow babies.
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>>86597224
t. fatty with manboobs
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>>86597917
>Didn't read past the second sentence.
Thus proving my point about you being disingenuous. Admitting you're wrong is okay anon, it helps you grow as a person.

You seem to be implying that "not losing weight from eating" is at least a nitpick, though. Baby steps.
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>>86597996
>Now if you can't answer what magic free pass shit Sam is pulling to remain fat, you seriously need to fuck off
It's not explained for the viewer, dumb cunt. It is also not a running mystery yet to be revealed, or with show consecuencies. Is just there. Are you retarded on purpose?
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>>86597848
Lady Tarly: More bread?
Sam: Yes, please!
Randyll Tarly: Not fat enough already?

Whoops, look at that. You can gain weight through eating, and it is implied that you can stop gaining weight by not eating. Fuck, god, what ever will you do now.
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>>86598093
>Is just there
Just like teleportation is "just there" suddenly, right?

I'ts fantasy I ain't gotta 'xplain shit.
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>>86597705
Those are established as magical creatures. So whatever they do, and however they work, can be put down to magic.

There is nothing established for people being able to stay fat while not getting that much food.

It's not really something anyone should actually care about, or go full autism over. But his quote about dragons and stuff is just wrong, which is the issue most people (i hope) are arguing against.
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>>86598154
Well logically the reason Sam stayed fat is because the actor stayed fat
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>>86592522
god damn actors are such retards, reason for being fat is established as not working out and eating to much, unless the show somehow hints there is other reasons why some characters are fat in the mentioned universe, you just assume them being fat is just like IRL.
Show established that there is magic and dragons in GoT universe, but it has nothing to do with Human biology until further notice.
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>>86598141
No one teleports. You're just too stupid to realise that if someone gets from one location to another then that means time has passed.
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>>86597996
My point is that the actor is saying, in a less inflammatory way, that hyperfocusing on this is ridiculous when there are many, many more unrealistic or even inconsistent things that you ignore. I can buy that WW can cause frozen muscle to start moving again, but literal skeletons being able to move and vocalize? Bullshit, even by internal standards. Is this more glaring than him being fat? I think so, but I'm not going to throw an autistic tantrum over it.
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>>86592522
So what's he saying exactly? That fat people are magical?
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>>86598183
He stayed fat because he is a fat character. Which is fine.

But him trying to argue it away by saying "but muh dragons and zombies!" is just stupid.
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>>86598093
>Are you retarded on purpose?
Are you? Your entire argument is that we need to accept Sam is fat because of these other things, like dragons, which we can accept because of suspension of disbelief in a fantasy show. Now you're backpedaling and saying to just accept it.
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>>86592522
>That red guy
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>I could lose weight so it would aid in the suspension of disbelief of the viewers
>But nah I'll just stay a fat piece of shit and pretend to be retarded by saying it's fantasy and it's magic in the show that keeps me fat

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>>86598200
>Bullshit, even by internal standards
>White walkers can bring the dead back to life via magic
>Skeletons are included in that
There you go. That's the only explanation you need. And that is consistent with the logic within the show.
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>>86598253
>so it would aid in the suspension of disbelief of the viewers
normal people don't actually care about this. only autists that browse fathate subleddits whine about it.
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>>86598190
Right because it takes only mere hours for a man to run back to the wall, have a raven travel from the wall to Dragonstone, fly 3 dragons north of the wall and then locate Jon&co to start the bbq

Stop defending this obviously retarded shit faggot.
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>>86598276
>food is more calorically dense in this universe
>bread is included in that
>that explains why his dad sperged about bread
problem solved and still internally consistent.
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>>86598200
>but literal skeletons being able to move and vocalize?
You just answered your own question. WW magic. This does have an in universe explanation, even if you think it's a cheap one. Sam unfortunately does not other than the outside-the-show fact that the actor doesn't care about losing weight and therefore neither will his character. I have no doubts the writers had ideas about Sam losing weight and maybe even developing into a more physically capable character as the story went on, but couldn't because the actor stayed fat and they can't force him to lose weight.

>autistic tantrum
I don't know, I'm enjoying this thread. I like that people are able to actually call out this retarded reasoning and discuss it.
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>>86598357
this just make up some dumb magic elven bread and say they all eat that and thats it, but dont just pretend dumb shit is fine because of dragons
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>>86598190
That's more an issue with pacing and writing. They did a montage of Sam living his boring day-to-day life in the first episode that showed time passing, but that's the only time they do that. Every other time is just "scene with x in y location" to "scene with x in z location" with no sense of how long it took for them to get there.

This is especially jarring in a series that normally takes multiple episodes or even seasons for characters to actually travel from place to place.
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>>86593351
a female fat normie
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>>86594164
source?
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>>86592547
GED ID :D
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>>86598392
White walker magic was shown as being able to cause the recently deceased to return as wights. Not literal skeletons.
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>>86594781
>bro just turn your brain off
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>>86598404
>This is especially jarring in a series that normally takes multiple episodes or even seasons for characters to actually travel from place to place.
They havent done this since like season 3.
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>>86594405
they're nutritionists, not athletes
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>>86595962
mon dieu i remember reading that
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>>86598190
This is an entirely different issue and has to do with Ben Cogman being a shitty screenwriter.
As a screenwriter or filmmaker in general, if you want to show time has passed, you actually need to convey it. Character appearances and the sets can change, or an offhand comment about how long it's taking.

Unfortunately the more drastic teleportation complaints came in when characters DID establish an amount of time. Specifically during a span of two weeks. Yes, two weeks, as Cersei actually established, was all the time needed for multiple armies and characters to travel the breadth of the continent and back several times.
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>>86592692
Nah, I can believe the dragons.
But his obesity I just can't.
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>>86598465
The fact that there are ambulatory skeletons in the show proves you wrong.
>How
White Walker magic. White Walkers have the ability to reanimate the dead. Does this extend to literal skeletons? Apparently it does because literal skeletons have attacked main characters on multiple occasions. That is really all there is to it.
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>>86592522
>why does bran have time traveling powers?
>MUH DRAGONS
>how did they resurrect John Sno'?
>MUH DRAGONS
>why does Little Finger and Euron seem to possess teleporting powers?
>MUH DRAGONS
>why are you still fat?
>MUH DRAGONS

like poetry
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>>86598498
It takes all season 5 for Stannis to go from Castle Black to Winterfell. Same with Jon in season 6. Bran is moving south to the wall for half of season 6. There are still multiple instances of this happening.
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>>86595266
Daenerys dies after giving birth to Lyanna Targaryen
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>>86598598
That's a terrible argument and I can turn around and say literally anything to defend Sam being fat and it would be just as valid as your post because hurr it was on the show.
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>>86598716
So enlighten us.

Which magic is keeping Sam fat?
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>>86598716
I'm sorry but how?
White Walkers using their necromantic ice magicks and making undead armies, composed partially of skeletons, is not an argument or opinion it is a fact.
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>>86598345
It took days, not hours, as made obvious by the fact that it got light, then dark.

>>86598357
You can't just pull bullshit out of your ass to explain stuff.
It's literally been shown that they can use magic to raise the dead INCLUDING skeletons.

Your complaint about "I can accept them using magic to reanimated frozen muscle" is stupid, because it has never been shown that this is how it works.
It's just magic that can reanimate things that are dead regardless of state of decay.

>>86598404
I think it's fine, because at this point we know the rough distances, and can understand that if someone went from kings landing to dragonstone then a certain amount of time has taken place.

The entire intro is a giant map, so we have a good frame of reference.
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>>86592522
I get that the "muh thyroid" shit is way overblown and used as an excuse by people trying to justify there unhealthy eating habits

But there are people genetically predisposed with shitty metabolisms, bad thyroids, whatever. Its not an excuse not to be active and eat healthy, which everyone should, just sayin.
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wow faggots you expect me too looses wight for some shity fantasy show, just STFU faggotts it has dragons and shit dont you get it.
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>>86598716
We have literally seen them using magic to bring skeletons back to life. It's a fact.

There are no facts to back up sam staying fat.
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>>86598789
>So enlighten us.

>Which magic is keeping Sam fat?

Just like incest seems to have no consequences in the show, being born fat and doing excercise won't make you any less fat.

Evidence: Hodor.

People who are fat stay fat for eternity in the Westeros Universe.
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>>86598789
Food in GRRMverse is much more calorically dense than food IRL. Easy.
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>>86598880
>incest seems to have no consequences in the show

???

The entire backstory of the show/books revolves around the consequences of centuries of rulers marrying and breeding with close relations.
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>>86598880
And like again, that's been addressed in the posts you're arguing with so maybe you need it spelled out for you.

The people not losing weight, like Sam, are not losing weight because the ACTORS do not lose weight. The show has to be written around a character if he's still fat. Now if John Bradley had said, "I haven't made any effort to lose weight so my character can't really lose weight either," that would have been the end of it. Instead, and this is why this thread is happening, he pulled the tired old IT'S FANTASY SO ANYTHING GOES excuse.
What you're trying and utterly failing to do is pull an in-universe excuse as to why Sam is still fat when there simply isn't one.

There is an in-universe explanation for why dragons can fly: magic
There is also one for why the Walkers are able to reanimate skeletons who can run, jump and attack people: their magic.
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>>86598991
Centuries of incest would cause horrific birth defects and all kinds of tards. In GoT it just causes people to be murderous.
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>>86598880
>>Just like incest seems to have no consequences in the show
>mfw someone actually posted this about Game of Thrones of all things
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>>86598880
Targaryen's have magic in their blood, it's been established in the story that the Dragonlord families were someway special.
That said a lot have ended up with mental problems.
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>>86596981
yeah, as if the swordplay in this show was realistic
https://youtu.be/3JfQkN2la7o?t=105
>inb4 season 6
even when ned fought jaime it was a piece of shit swordplay
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>>86599040
This

All of Cersei and Jamie children are perfectly healthy and good looking which is ridiculous

But I won't hear people complain about that, probably because they realize there's dragons and zombies in this show.
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>>86599124
Westeros ran on the "rule of cool" instead pf physics back during the rebellion
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>>86599126
One was a complete and utter psychopath.
One killed himself because his waifu died.

Sounds like mentally unstable progeny to me.
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>>86599040
Nearly every Targ we've seen is a tard, though. I'll give you the looks thing though.

>>86599126
One generation of inbreeding is generally not enough for serious issues to start popping up regularly.
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>>86599219
No, I mean actually mentally retarded. Not just stupid.
>>86599205
Yes, apparently Lannister incest only causes murderous impulses.
Normal people can and do kill themselves when their wife is violently killed (by their own mother). It's unrelated to this.
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>>86599126
Perhaps healthy and good looking, but that can be attributed to the audience not wanting to see utterly ugly people.

A lot of them have been mentally unhinged though.
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>>86596981
btw do you have source in that? it's too fast in the webm
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>>86599284
Sorry, not Lannister, Targaryen. Centuries of inbreeding only made Aegon II like to watch people burn. No tards or spina bifida.
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>>86599284
The mad king was actually mad. Show Viserys had a healthy dose of megalomania, and Dany seems to have it too.
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>>86592522

Is he saying his fat is magic?
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>>86599169
that's not even cool though, what those guys are doing in the webm is cool, and if you watch real sparring it could be much more dramatic for the show(instead of five guys fighting a duel wielding retard), it's not like the audience would have to be educated to understand it. Hollywood swordplay is what kids would find cool
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>>86599461
his fat pink mast is lightbringer
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>>86592692
This is literally true and irrefutable.
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>>86599751
It's being refuted at this very moment
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>>86599453
Megalomania isn't "mentally unhinged" and plenty of people from families that don't inbreed are crazy psychopaths.
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>>86596873
you can grab swords by their edges as long as you arent digging your hands into them.
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>>86599126
First generation inbreeding is not (much) troublesome.
It's the second and beyond that will make you a Charles II.
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just turn off your brain and enjoy the show
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>implying Sam is just fat
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this faggot just literally wants to be a fat fuck

i don't care how fat you are, with a job as interesting as cast member on one of the biggest television shows of all time, food is going to be a lower priority . He's going around to all these different sets, meeting different people, traveling around the world for events and shit. He's got scenes and interviews to worry about and yet he's still a fat fuck. Not to mention the fact that he makes a lot of money from this which should inspire him to make a bit more of an effort to improve his role

Is he just constantly shoving his face when he's on the road? If not, he's got to notice some kind of improvement over time by the end of filming/publicity bullshit. Does he just go "welp time to eat like shit again and gain these few pounds back"

I wonder if he uses his character on this show as an excuse to stay fat or if he really just doesn't give a fuck about being disgusting

I used to be fatter so I can understand fatties to some extent, my willpower wasn't strong enough to control my diet when I didn't have shit to do as a NEET, but a shitty dishwashing job is all it took to set me on the path of weight loss and this faggot has one of the most interesting jobs where he's visible to literally everyone and he just stays a fat fuck. It's not like he needs to get shredded, just eat half as much shitty food and go on a run once in a while christ it's really not that hard
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>>86592522
Is this guy autistic?

I'm pretty sure the guy was wondering why he, as in the actor, was still so fat if he had to move from set to set and stand up during most of his scenes.

This fat fuck was probably eating pies behind the cameras
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You think at some point he was offered a bonus if he would lose weight so it would make the show more believable? Then he couldn't do it and now he has to justify it with such a retarded non-argument?
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>>86600402
Eating half as much food would be hard when you're as obese as him. You're just ravenously hungry all the time; it never stops. If I was making as much money as he is I wouldn't have been able to lose the weight. Only reason I could is because I couldn't afford to be eating that much.
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>nobody can prove the actor wrong
>at best you get "it-it doesn't matter! it makes no sense!" as a response
Brainlets literally want every single minute of the running time explained to them, and at the same time complain about having things spelled out for them. I love it.
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>>86592522
>>86592522
Shouldn't that fat fucker want to get fit for his own looks and health, especially now that he's "famous"? How fucking beta and pathetic do you have to be to ignore plot and suffering for art, and stay fat with the justification: "muh dragons"?
>>86597433
top laff
>>86597476
>t. lardass
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>>86592522
he was eating lembas you ignorant twat
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>>86600465
>he had to move from set to set and stand up during most of his scenes

One would not describe that as "trekking across landscapes".

Are you autistic?
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>>86600562
i meant half as much shitty food

i seriously doubt this guy has a healthy diet that just happens to be way too big
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>>86600835
Oh, then yeah. He could easily hire a live-in third worlder chef and eat well for no effort. I guess he's probably addicted to sugar and garbage like most fat people.
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>>86599337
not him but the technique is called halfswording, you can probably find plenty of vids showcasing it
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>>86601005
>I guess he's probably addicted to sugar and garbage like most fat people.

I know how he feels

it's sad because all you have to do is build muscle and lift weights often along with cardio and you can easily find a pretty forgiving halfway point between eating like shit and not looking disgusting, though obviously it's still not ideal
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>>86600789
N-No
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>>86592522
No he isn't right.
Suspension of disbelief is only an excuse when it logically follows the rules of the universe in a consistent manner.

For instance, we know there are dragons in GoT and we know they can breathe fire, so when we finally see them flying around and burning things our brains are okay with it because in that universe there are dragons and they interact with the world in a logical and consistent manner.

What we do NOT have in GoT however is anything to tell us that fat people can stay fat even though they are on medieval peasant diets and go on long, exhaustive treks across the continent. So when we see Sam stay fat for however many seasons he's been in; away from the bountiful meals of his home, stuck on a modest diet of bread and thin soups, traversing vast stretches of land all in the freezing cold and he's STILL FAT our brain says fuck off that's stupid.
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>>86594337
>>86594375
>>86594405
>>86594540
>>86595174
>>86596647
>>86597725
stop replying to braindead posters
if you agree with him you are a delusional fat fuck
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>>86592547
epic... simply epic :)
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>>86592547
this was the last time they spoke as friends
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>>86592522
JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO
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>>86592522
Thats such a cop out, holy shit. What a fucking pleb tier attitude.
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>>86592522
Every time somebody points out a plothole in the show, the response is "but there are dragons!". Sam still being fat is an incredibly minor detail though.
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>>86596176
This. And everyone laughs liek we've never heard that argument before. I'm starting to unironically think of people in terms of being normies.
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>>86597880
op said "is he on the right" and he is sitting to the right of conan
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>haha but you see there is some completely untrelated MAGICâ„¢ so umm no logic applies to anything sweetie, despite the otherwise pseudo-medieval and earthly context :)
such a fucking lazy cop-out
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