Well that was a fucking disappointment. They killed off a good

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>>86583778
>Do people even care about the xenomorphs anymore?
They blew their opportunity. People cared when the Alien prequel/Prometheus hype started bubbling around late 2010/2011/2012, but Prometheus turned out shit, so the general public rightfully lost interest. Fox tried to re-capture people's attention by promising them the return to roots they were expecting with Prometheus with Covenant, but that turned out even worse. Once bitten is one thing; twice bitten is quite another. The only way they're going to make people care again now is by actually getting Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn on board for a direct sequel to Aliens (which will probably be even worse than Covenant).

They should have been more organized the first time, and more clear in their communication of what Prometheus was. It should never have been revealed that they were working on a prequel to the public until they had decided on whether it was going to be an Alien film or a disconnected film in the same universe. In marketing, they shouldn't have hinted at all that Prometheus was set in the Alien universe. The surprise of it would have created more buzz than they achieved through their wonky "Alien but not really" advertising (although, really, Prometheus should have been completely divorced from Alien).

>>86584151
I don't want Sigourney and Mike back, I want new things, I don't want xenomorphs anymore, I want these films to focus on the space jockeys and their origin that was hinted in prometheus
xenomorphs are done, you can't do much with them, the original films already showed this and so did covenant.
I want a movie about the mythology of the creators, I don't care about the continuation of the alien films, there's no where to go with that.

>>86583778
>Do people even care about the xenomorphs anymore?
I think people are taking these movies to literally. Horror is usually about taking things that scare us or give us anxiety in real life and turning them into monsters. Anyone who suffers from sleep paralysis nightmares can tell you that the potential of the xenomorph is limitless because it represents things that are in us and our world seen through alien eyes.

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>>86584525
I think they should have just created an entirely new film series inspired by, but not set in the same universe as, Alien. I agree that exploring the Space Jockeys would have been better than what we ended up with, but I'd have still preferred something entirely new, albeit spiritually connected to Alien. The whole point of the Space Jockeys is that they're Lovecraftian unknowables—you're supposed to glimpse them and forever wonder; they're more a function to induce a sense of personal insignificance in the viewer than they are actual characters. Reducing them to slightly taller humans in Prometheus with all our incompetence (tripping over and being decapitated by a door?) was about the worst thing they could have done to detract from their intended purpose in the original 1979 film, but even if they'd handled it better, any attempt to "know" or explain them would have still disappointed. Although Prometheus is enjoyable to some extent, Scott could and should have done his space Jesus thing as a whole new property. Both of these new films left me thinking about what could have been instead of feeling satisfied with what was.

>>86584151
I disagree. I think the newer movies are a lot more fun to think about. They are like Ridleys diary of existential woes. Ridley does not have real answers and he is sharing that anxiety in his last days.

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>>86584803
Also, relevant captcha.

>>86583778
Gonna need a closer look at your pic OP

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>>86584831
Check out >>>/hr/2946432.

>david did genetic engineering with tools straight out of primitive technology + an optical microscope

Promet and Coven are just an Alien movie version of the Celestials and the Kree mixed together. It's capeshit.

>>86585007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28HZ1e1L-4c
The tools for genetic engineering are not that hard to produce for an android.

>>86585007
why didn't he use the engineers tech?

1970s/80s=human main character with emotional depths and no superhuman attributes

1990s=angsty and edgy superhuman main character and her robot gf who is more human than real humans

2010s=Autism Sociopath Robot as main character and his pet experiment gf

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>alien
>oooh, what is that elephant thing? what happened to him? where did these eggs come from? what happened to the ship?

>aliens
okay, the alien queen put them there or the space jockeys took her eggs and put them in their ship? maybe?
weyland wants to weaponize xenos

>Alien 3
xenodog, Bishop is modelled after weyland? or a relative? or whoever this guy, that looks like bishop was modelled after, is? weyland wants to weaponize xenon again

>alien reeeeeeeeee
alien clones!?
weaponize xenos again

>prometheus:we will answer everything after all these years, also avp isn't canon
what is this? what is that? why aren't you answering questions, why are you answering questions with questions? questions questions questions

>alien covenant:we promise this time we'll answer questions.
okay finally me and the character shaw are here, the engineer's planet, we're finally getting some answe-
...

>>86585576
>what is this? what is that? why aren't you answering questions, why are you answering questions with questions? questions questions questions
Those questions the film explores don't have meaningful answers.
>okay finally me and the character shaw are here, the engineer's planet, we're finally getting some answe-
It's not the answers that matter but the questions.

>The Culture and Philosophy of Ridley Scott
This book explores a lot of the actual meaning behind the films.

>>86584803
I think the new movies are actually truer to the idea of cosmic horror, taking into account ideas like the great filter. We carry within us the seeds of our own destruction. The monsters are already inside us waiting to break free and must because they are as inevitable as death.