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Thoughts on The Defenders? Does it seem like Iron Fist got

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Thoughts on The Defenders?

Does it seem like Iron Fist got any better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14npq9HNiA
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>>86570363
it was good enough but it could have been much better. i was really psyched for it... it had some great scenes but overall it was underwhelming for a finale to all these shows.
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>>86570363
Honestly it just feels like 8 episodes of people hitting each other in fancy choreography that is not as good as Daredevil season 1 and the plot isn't very interesting when for 7 episodes the main characters keep asking themselves what the Hand is doing when it was made clear to the audience about 2 episodes in
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I'm only an episode in and I feel myself aging watching this shit. It's boring and uninspired.
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>>86570363
Shockingly dull. Takes literally half the season to "set up" a storyline that was already fully set up in Daredevil season 2.
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Nah Iron Fist still sucks..
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>>86570416
>Finale to all these shows
Daredevil is getting season 3 and all the other shows are getting second seasons
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>>86570531
yeah obviously meant this round, this arc, whatever.
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>>86570363
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nobody is wearing a real costume.
Dropped
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>>86570416

Usually when i'm the most hyped for something i'm the most disappointed by it...
It's why i try to not get hyped by anything
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Daredevil and Luke Cage are top tier

Iron Fist is better but still suck dick

JJ is literal trash
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>>86570647
i know... i couldn't help it. i really loved the whole run of shows up until Iron Fist which was mediocre. Defenders was better but so predictable. i mean they solved the whole thing four times and kept pretending they didn't. it was annoying. but i liked some of it a lot.
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>the transitions between their individual scenes
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>>86570363
Reminder The Hand are actually good guys.
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If the Chasta had a base in NYC why didn't we hear about it earlier? Also, what ever happened to the buff Chaste guy from Daredevil Season 1? I can't remember if he was in Season 2 or not. Lastly, what fuck is the Chaste again?
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All this ninja shit, mme gao, etc, should have filled half a season of daredevil and been left behind for other plots. I can't believe entire teams of professional entertainment industry people thought this would be interesting enough to spread across 4 seasons of tv. Instead we get the same back alley/warehouse/crumbling dojo/unfinished building fight scenes a thousand times because all the main characters have the same super power ("punch/throw shit real good") and are so fucking similar their plotlines have to be color coded like teletubbies so viewers can parse them. The shit I took this morning was more charismatic than Danny Rand, and his punches barely look strong enough to knock an empty bottle off a table. I'm only halfway through the show because every time I see him swinging his glowing, quivering little fistlet around I get too embarrassed to continue. Netflix should have produced a single 5-episode miniseries for each character (daredevil can have 10 with 5 focused on Punisher). They've spent so much time building up to this, only for it to be more of the same tripe, that I'm too tired of it to keep watching.
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All the niggers are fucking unbearable. Cage, the nurse, the disgusting cop with the hideous afro and the 5head. They ruin this show
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i swear i'm not /pol/ but i sat there wondering why all these fucking ninjas were not asian. especially the five fingers why weren't they all asian?
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Who the fuck is "Alexandra" supposed to be?
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>>86571010
maybe the use of some technology like the "blackface app" could turn actors to a different race (one you like better than a nigger, i mean, you people are paying to get propagandized) in a not so far away future.
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>>86570363
>Does it seem like Iron Fist got any better?

Danny's gotten worst desu.
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>>86571010
Man that black cop got some dis it mang titties.
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>>86570857
You mean Stone? Yeah the writers forgot about that. It won't be mentioned or referenced ever again
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Why the fuck is Iron Fist so weak? Didn't he train at a ancient temple or some shit thats in another dimension? How the fuck did a blind guy beat the fuck out of him? Iron fist fucking sucks
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>They're just kids
>The law says you're allowed to shoot people robbing your store, but I'm the law
>Nah, let's just let those "kids" run away with that tv that probably cost a few hundred dollars
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>>86571173
>paying
Lel
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>>86570363
Honestly it reminded me how much I didn't like Iron Fist or Luke Cage. it kind of just made me want a new season of Jessica Jones
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>>86571209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBx6mAWYPU

>>86571257
i don't remember him being that great a fighter in the comics either.
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>>86571257
hes a white male thats hated by this shows core viewers(tumblrinas) for being white
they cant make him super strong
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>>86571261
>I'm sure they learned there lesson and will never do this again
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>Luke Cage literally checks Iron Fist's White Privilege

lel
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>>86571261
>murdering children over a few hundred dollars
neat
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>>86571309
Then why the fuck is he the Iron Fist if he just gets fisted anally every time he fights someone?
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Instead of making Luke Cage and Iron Fist Season 2 why the fuck don't they just roll them into 1 show? Especially when the shows are already stretched thin with too many episodes. I want a totally new character to compliment Punisher's edginess. Blade or something.
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>feral resurrected Elektra moaning and whining
Raging boner
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>>86571369
>super hero lets people commit crimes instead of stopping it because they are black
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>>86571450
But he can't see their skin anon
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>>86571369
What if those store owners needed a few hundred dollars? They're a fucking privately owned store. It's fucking hard to make is as a privately own store. Besides, even if they didn't need that few hundred dollars, what about if they kept stealing from him? Is a hundred dollars dollars not enough for action? What about a thousand dollars? What about a few thousand dollars? What if they took nearly everything of value? You can't just fucking let that shit slide.
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>>86571410

I don't remember him being this much of a jobber in his own show.
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>>86571410
i actually like that. it means in that he still has something to prove which reflects his character.
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>>86571468
im pretty sure he has good smelling :^)
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>>86571450
they were white
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>>86571412
i totally agree with this. it should be the two of them in one show. they could build on this really easily. although the source material is more reasonable than the PC audience of today is used to
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>>86571309
>i don't remember him being that great a fighter in the comics either.

He's one of the best fighters in marvel.
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>black sky
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I noticed in the first couple 'sodes each character had special lighting. Daredevil was red and Cage was yellow. Anyways, it made me run out and buy a red light lmao. My room looks so much better now. Feels like I'm in a Chinese crack den or the Batmobile.
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>>86571485
>What if those store owners needed a few hundred dollars?
I suggest they sell one of the shotguns they use to attempt murder on children
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>>86570363
Colleen x Elektra lesbian sex when?

my dick would explode
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>>86571542
fair enough. i haven't read that shit in years so i don't remember.
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>>86571564
>'sodes
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>>86571565
They need those shotguns to defend their store from looters. They'll probably save more money from preventing robbery than if they sold them.
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Objective rankings for the team
Jessica>Daredevil>Iron fist> Luke Cage
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>>86571602
It's pretty annoying how Colleen is constantly barefoot yet they never give us a shot that focuses on her soles. I'm not asking for much. 1 Tarantino shot a season would be enough.
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>Be rich boy
>Plane crash
>Monk saves me from plane crash
>Monk actually interdimensional space monks
>Trains me for several years
>Prove myself with other colleagues to fight a dragon
>Win fight with dragon and become the best fighter and gain title Iron Fist
>Gain magical fist that destroys shit with one punch and healing powers
>Gets fucked up by blind lawyer
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>>86571410

They have to nerf him because if they used the comic version he would be too OP.
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>>86571640
no
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show made by tumblerinas for tumblerinas
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>>86571664
>Can little destroy a steel door and bust through a concrete wall with iron fist
>punch a normal person with iron fist
>they don't turn into red giblets
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>>86570694

Iron Fist and Luke Cage banter is pretty good. Iron Fist did improve but still an autist.

Daredevil is still okay. Stick is still fucking based.

Luke Cage and JJ's story was pretty much forgotten in the middle. JJ is literally forgettable.
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Please can somebody fill me in on Mariah and Shades? I don't remember the plot to Luke Cage. I'm sorry it's pretty hard remembering 4 tv shows.
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>>86571830

Shades basically is prepping her to be the next big boss in Harlem.
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>>86571664
>>86571745
Alright this I don't get. Why is Iron Fist so weak? The fucker knows multiple martial arts school
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>my parents died in a plane crash
>YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE
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>>86571893

Lack of experience and too emotional.
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Wait why did the hand want to destroy every city on earth? I had the impression that destroying New York would allow them to get to Monk Heaven. Ok that's cool, but Alexandra was saying they'd make every city fall.
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>>86571949
Because from the ashes they'll build a better one
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>>86571949

There's a giant dragon built into the foundation of Manhattan island and the hand wanted to excavate it. By doing this it would destroy the city in the process.
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>>86571929
>Lack of experience
He killed a fucking dragon 1 on 1 in a cave without a glowing fist or technology
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>>86571949
by city they mean white males
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>>86572017
he does have a lot of inexperience. he's like a romantic knight who's never fucked before. he could kill but he doesn't have enough worldly knowledge.
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>>86571949
>>86572002
>>86572003
>>86572017
>>86572033
With the Iron fist's power to literally destroy almost anything by punching it I just don't understand why he wouldn't fucking use it more. There are so many situations he could have gotten out of if he had just fucking used his power.
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>>86572069
and im guessing the privileged american nigger has all of it
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>>86572108

He's a good guy and he doesn't want to kill. Corny but that's how it is.
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>>86572108

Because of plot, I love how he's always "out of chi" at the most convenient times. Fucking stupid.
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>>86572116
i'm guessing you're 15 and live in sisterfuckin, alabama
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>>86572108
Didn't you watch Luke Cage? He could literally end this in 5 seconds, but he didn't ask for this, no he's not crying, he just doesn't know
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>>86572166
no i actually dont live in the first world like the oh so unprivileged american negro
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>>86572150
But I'm not talking about killing people. I'm talking about examples where's he's maybe locked up, or needs to destroy something. He was stuck in that hospital for days before he finally figured out he could just punch his way out. He's such a fucking idiot.
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I did a speed run of the season by just watching the parts with Daredevil. I didn't miss anything of value. Also, fuck that ending.
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>tfw after watching this i'm going to start dressing like my hero Iron Fist
Gonna be the most handsome 30 years old guy this town has ever seen
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>>86572214
ok bernie goetz. when you're an adult you have respect for your fellow man. it's something that happens with all real men. just explaining to you what happens once you leave your mom's basement you cheetos-munching dweeb.
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>>86572218
>He was stuck in that hospital for days before he finally figured out he could just punch his way out.

He was drugged and couldn't summon the fist. Did you watch the show?
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>>86572263
I feel like DareDevil is the only decent Marvel Netflix show. And the second season was only good when the Punisher was in it. I really hope we get to see the Punisher soon and that it's not terrible.
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Does black steel guy get back with broody budget detective in this?
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>>86572319
no.
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>>86571949
They didn't want to stay in Monk Heaven, they just wanted to go there so they could be immortal for longer. They still wanted to kind of rule everything
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>>86572293
>respecting some niggers that think that because they arent millonaires they should shoot the entire city up for some jays
fuck off jamal
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>>86572295
Why would being drugged hamper his ability to use the fist though? It's a power, not a technique. He doesn't need to focus in order to use it.
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>>86572346
literally what are you talking about, doritos-boy? your fat folds have drooped onto your keyboard before and accidentally solved the captcha
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>>86572319
He spends half the first episode banging Claire.
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>>86572372
>he thinks hes people
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>>86572311
I agree. To a certain extent, I'd prefer it if next season of daredevil returns to his raggy outfit. It looks less dorky. If you want more punisher, skip to the end of episode 8 after the credits for a teaser.
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>>86572355

He needs to gather Chi from his body and channel it through his fist. He couldn't gather Chi because the meds fucked up his body.
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>>86572372
Literally leaf tier banter
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>>86572439
banter. banter? good thing you stopped me from bantering before i rebooted me Apple II
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>>86572416
Why would the meds prevent him from using his "Chi"?
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>>86572466
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>>86572466
go back to /co/mblr pls
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>DUDE WE CAN'T SAY FUCK FUCKING FUCKEDY FUCK, FAGGOT, CUNT, OR NIGGER... BUT WE CAN SHOW LUKE CAGE VIOLENTLY RAILING WOMEN
eh really weird standards Marvel has. In Harlem you'd hear nigger and nigga left and right.
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Jesus I already hated the niggers and I hadn't even gotten to the ALL MUH BABIES ARE GONE LORD retarded old lady. Holy shit this show
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>>86572488

In the defenders when he was talking to Cage, he said he eats alot because using the fist drains him and he needs to eat alot to harness his Chi. Chi doesn't exist, So, how it works or it's specifications are left to the artist discretion.
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>>86572495
>>86572501
>being this insecure and defeated
just realize that until you are at least thirty nobody will give a fuck what you have to say. we're just tolerating your stupidity to a point
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>>86572575
>we
Wew
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>>86572540
Did you watch Luke Cage? You do hear it a lot
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>>86572575
>hes over thirty
>he actually still reads commics
>he lives in his mom basement
>hes black and blames the white man keeping him down
oh yea anon i wish i were you
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>>86570363
anybody who watches capeshit, especially netflix capeshit, should be banned from voting.
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>>86572627
Then the only people voting would be the old conservatives who support Trump
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>>86572603
i'm white and don't read comics regularly and live on my own. also i have sex with women whenever i want. good guess, though! you were so close, elmer.
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>>86571010
was it autism?
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>>86572665
sure you are jamal
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>yet another season of overpowered yet conflicted "heroes" fighting a bunch of katana-wielding goons
Embarrassingly boring
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>>86572707
great comeback. how can i be more like you? just constantly eat disco fries that my mommy makes?
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>>86572737
well i did say i was trying to be like you ;)
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gotta hate how they handling Iron Fist in this.

he supposes to be the strongest.
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>>86572791
Why do you write like a nigger?
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>>86572784
you've almost completed a thought. but then you went for this limp-dick reply. tighten your fedora, neckbeard. you are a child walking into adults having a conversation.
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>>86572540
>He wasn't here for all the pull the trigga nigga memes
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Elektra is unbelievably hot

fucking hell.

any porn star who looks like her?
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>>86572164
Fucking Vegeta always choking.
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>>86572861
sorry sir gotta let the 30 year olds discuss childrens comic books made for liberal women
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>>86572959
great job in this thread. your contribution will be remembered for generations
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>>86572919
Elektra is pure
do not sexualize Elektra
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>>86573003
thanks i really try to do my best when commenting on shitty liberal children shows made for neckbeards that still read shitty comics books
i like the part where the big man punches the zombie ninjas i think thats very grown up
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>>86573016
Elektra specifically blurred the line between fucking and fighting to great effect
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>>86573016
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>>86573040 (You)
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poor Netflix can't get a break...
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>>86573077
what's this gay shit, anon?
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>>86573080
oh do you like the part where the big black man is shown having sex for 20 minutes for no reason, i like it too im grown up too
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>>86573137
for 30 seconds when it ties into the plot? yes i liked it. it was part of the storyline.
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>>86573151
wow you sure are grown up, im just got a daredevil costume did you get someones costume too
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Waifu rankings

1. Colleen
2. Elektra
3. Jessica
4. Claire
5. Trish (JJ's friend)
6. Gao
7. Misty
8. Karen
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Moot looks really disgusting in this. I wish they'd have chosen a woman, not some 6'4" old as fuck bulldyke
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>>86573137
>>86573151
>>86573077
>>86573080
>>86573114
>Hey, anon. Wanna go for a coffee?
wat do?
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>>86573193
please fuck my white girlfriend while i watch based black god
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>>86573183
eighth grade will start soon and you will have to keep these thoughts to yourself until 3pm
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>>86573193
Bend him over and fuck him in the ass.
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>>86573193
Why is he so uncharismatic and wooden bros
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>>86573184
Here's my take:
I agree with the first 3
4.Trish
5.Karen
6.Gao
7.Misty
8.Claire
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I've been here since 2009 and I never believed in the women haters meme until this thread. People saying iron fist is better than jessica jones are fucking pathetic. I didn't even particularly enjoy her show that much but she was way better in Defenders and leagues better than Iron Fist outside of the Luke Cage scenes. Ritter also acted circles around most of the cast. I don't know what the fuck you guys watched.
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>>86573284
i sure as fuck didnt watch this trainwreck of a show that i did not
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>>86573184
>Gao
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>>86573284
Time for some redpilling, boys.
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>>86573284
Jessica Jones was the worst part of her own show. Eat a dick and then fuck yourself with it.
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>>86573308
Gao is charming as hell
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>>86573284
yeah i agree completely
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>>86573184
1- Jessica
2 - Trish
3 - Karen
4 - Elektra
5 - Colleen
6 - Claire
7 - Misty
Only cucks disagree
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>>86573308
>implying you wouldn't
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>>86573216
kys cuck
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>>86573333
I agree. But this wasn't Jessica Jones. This was defenders. She was way better written and acted in this show.
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>>86573371
>1- Jessica
>coalburner
>only cucks disagree
really makes you think
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>Danny can knock the entire Defender group down in one punch
>doesn't use it from the start

they need to stop making his fist a last resort weapon.

it's his normal attack.
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why must the alt left make /tv/ more shitty
fucking faggot mods are probably a part of it too
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>>86573454
your mom is part of it. she's using alt-dildos to stir your rice-a-roni
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>>86573443
To be fair. Jessica is lazy and Luke and Matt never go all out.
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>>86571525
he's blind but assumed they were black because they were stealing
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>>86573420
You do know we're actually talking about the actresses right?
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>>86573184
>>86573277
>>86573371
1. Jessica
2. Elektra
3. Claire
4. Colleen
5. Trish (JJ's friend)
6. Karen
7. Misty

>tfw Jessica is already me and i want her the most
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>>86573040
So can I assume you don't like Nolan's shitty Batman flicks? If you like Bale's laughable performance you really have no leg to stand on.
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>>86571929
more like bad writing
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>>86570363
Iron Fist fucking sucks. This guy has zero charisma.
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>>86573474
>Luke and Matt never go all out.

doesn't matter, they are street tier

Iron Fist is mystical tier
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>>86573420
>implying I wouldn't make her drink until she's completely shitfaced and then make her choke and puke on my cock
She's a goddess
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>>86573584
For now he's just a guy who's really good at kung fuu and can give a really strong punch once in a while. He's didn't finish his training
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>>86573642
not for long
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>>86571257
Thing is Danny Rand has supposedly spent most of his life in mystical shaolin lala land with a bunch of fucking eastern monks why does he come across like a millennial suburbanite coffee house hipster?
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>>86570363

Better than Iron Fist was.

Not a high bar though
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>>86573193
>when you fail to top Black Dynamite but can't admit it.
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It's so bad it's like one of those syfy bad on purpose things. It's like the writers had a contest to see who could write the most tropey hack dialogue. Literally two different characters said "for what it's worth..." within two minutes of each other.
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>>86573511
and?
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>>86573626
>She's a goddess
your standards must be pretty low then
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>>86573707
Because he is one
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>>86573715
That's some major hyperbole buddy but I've come to accept shit is going to be like that anytime you watch something designed for television or services like Netflix.
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does the punisher shows up in this crap?
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>>86573750
Well I'm no Brad Pitt
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>>86571369
they were no longer children once they decided to steal
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>>86573715

"I'm going to punch you so hard you can see" - Jessica Jones
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>>86573809
wew delete this
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>>86573838
Yeah man I hate how overused this line is with blind characters. Everytime there is a blind character someone says some shit like this. Terrible.
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>>86573809
Look at that greedy anus, that goddamn greedy anus wants all of that fabric to itself, look at it swallowing her jeans. They didn't stand a chance against her powerful all consuming pink anus
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>>86571010
I agree. Why do niggers always have to be such niggers? Can't they be normal?
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>>86573809
Is she leaning or is this shot from underneath? I can't into depth perception
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Waifu rankings

1. Jessica
2. Elektra
3. Colleen
4. Claire
5. Trish
6. Misty
7. Karen
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>>86573930
both
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>>86570363
I'm about halfway through. I like it.
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>Hype up a villain as being strong
>Don't have her do anything
>Kill her for shock value

They had to pull this shit again, didn't they?
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Jess, Elektra and Colleen confirmed best girls?
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>>86573897
Jesus
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>>86574088
Not even Jesus can save you from that ass, anon
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>>86574108
>save
I want to burn in that hell forever
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Even Jessica was written better than Danny in that shit show. I really feel sorry for Finn Jones.
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>>86573980
She was posing, dude. She was literally dying.
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I dont know if its the directors or cinematographers fault but the way this show is shot is fucking shit. Like the scene were Matt and Foggy are in the bar and there are the shots behind the bottles. Or the fight scene shot behind a fence. And Rand is still a whiny bitch. Dont know why I expected the show to be decent.
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>Elektra knocked Luke out with normal punch

literally what
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Just marathoned the first 5 episodes of this kino, what did I think of it?
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So are they still getting seasons separately or is this it for all of them?
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so all the shit in 2 seasons of DD and one of IF lead up to this. the hand just wanted some dragon bones? I expected them to be more like the league of shadows, killing people off to promote a better society.
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>>86574377
You literally can't stop thinking about having a nice hot and dark coffee
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>>86574272
Oh come on, have you never watched a martial arts film? Being near death makes those fuckers ten times stronger
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>>86574377
it's shit.
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>>86574361
she gets super powers as a black sky.
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>no final showdown between the 5 fingers and the defenders + stick
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>86574482
but not even Iron Fist knock him out. just sent him fly.

this is bullshit
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>>86574482

you misspelled "black guy" and that still doesn't explain how she was able to knock that black male out.
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>>86570363
danny is iron fist in name only in this show. it's hilarious how awful they made him. also why isn't finn jones any sort of fit. how the fuck has he not had time to hit the gym
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Damn this shit is boring. Just finished Episode 4 and nothing has really happened. There's only been one group fight scene and Matt has the least screen time out of all of them, hasn't even put on a costume once.
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>>86574361
Are you talking about the scene where luke was under some poison?
Stick gave him the mystery drug. Never use the mystery drug, kids.
Elektra was also pretty fucking strong. She's slapped that jap so hard he flew.
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>Colleen jealous because Danny found other superfriends and she realized she's literally worthless
Bitch just stand to the side and watch like the negresses do
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>>86573817
Come on you expect DareDevil the one of the most morale fag character to not protect people from being killed despite them being thieves? Even in S2 he was unwilling to kill actual criminals.
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>>86574672
I expected him to disarm the store owners, then apprehend the looters.
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>>86574770
wew
he just beats the shit out of people
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>mythical immortal ninjas are trying to destroy a city
>MAATT WHY! YOU PROMISED ME, I DON'T NEED YOUR PROTECTION OK
What an awful unbearable bitch
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>>86574770
If he was willing to be daredevil sure. He was still unwilling to play the part of the superhero at the start. He only interfered to save people from dying. Everything else he was still hesitant to do.
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So if The Hand are supposed to be eternal beings, why did Frank took like 6 of them out with a fucking sniper rifle? Sounds like based Punisher could handle this shit without running around with swords
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>>86574811
>OMG the devil of hell's kitchen is so cool

>I'm the devil of hell's kitchen, Karen

>you can't be doing that! I am in charge here!
That's why he tried to kill himself with his asian waifu
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>danny's bitch crying because she's not able to play with the big boys
Come on Netflix my dick can only get so hard
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So what's with the side characters being holed up in the police station? I hope they form a pathetic no power team where they basically do nothing and bitch about the defenders
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>>86574870
Immortality =/= Invulnerability
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>>86574870
They're immortal because they can be raised from the dead, not because you can't kill them.
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Why is Karen such a basic bitch?
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I can't believe in how they threw Colleen with the useless sidekicks. She deserves better than that.
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>>86575743
She is a useless sidekick. She's worse than Black Widow
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>>86572540
I'm pretty sure they did say it in Luke Cage
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>>86575743
They put Colleen there cause she got her stomach sliced up and probably will be a liability in the fight.
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>>86573284
Iron Fist is the worst of the four, not even an arguement. Slow plot, boring villains, both choreography and acting look like what you'd see in a high school art project, horrible dialogue, no cohesion between scenes, lead actor blames Trump for failure of ratings, just to name a few. JJ isn't great but ranking 3rd in the Marvel line-up is still far ahead of Iron Fist.
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>>86571485
And he shots them and the TV breaks. He gains nothing.
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>>86572488
Retard, if your mind is fucked up, you can't focus. His power comes directly from his chi and he needs to be in a focused state of mind to harness it into the iron fist.
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>>86570730
Literally all the camera work, bro. This shit is hot garbage. It's like they saw some Hitchcock and were like "Let's copy that!". What's with this scene too?
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>>86570363
It's shit. Could have done the whole thing in 5 episodes. The new old lady villain was garbage. No synergy between "heroes" whatsoever.
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>>86570434
This was my feeling throughout the entire show.
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>Black sky is the ultimate weapon
>Literally someone who can fight better and punch harder
>In a world where there is a thunder god, man in an iron suit who can decimate you from the sky, guy who turns into a indestructable rampaging monster and that is still not 1/3 of the crazy shit in the same universe
How is she remotely the ultimate weapon?
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>>86570591
DD wears his and he looks super out of place. Like he's the only one that was told to dress up for a halloween party.
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>>86571226
Holy shit. I forgot about him too. What the fuck, writers?
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>>86576411
"you look ridiculous"
"nice ears"
"there it is again"

why is jessica such a bully ; _ ;
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>>86576394
She is the ultimate weapon for The Hand. They're too irrelevant for The Avengers, if shit really hit the fan they'd intervene and finish it in a couple of minutes, but jews gonna jew so that won't happen
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>>86572544
They really are the worst part of this series way worse then Iron Fist.
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>>86571640
>no stick.
>not DD, Stick, JJ, LC, IF
shit list.
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>>86576500
It's "they're horns" for the last line
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>>86576596
I was quoting three separate instance where jessica was bullying matt, the last line was from ep7 when he suits up
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>building is destroyed with explosives
>it collapses just like the world trade center

hehehehe
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So does it end with them eating chinese food and quipping?
>we did it guys, we finally became the defenders
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>>86572544
>>86576530
Shit was way worse on Luke Cage. I hope they fix this next season.
>your store is really fucked
>my father is black and he used to play baseball
>yeah, you remember that black famous guy that did some important shit?
>yeah, what about random black guy that did some shit
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>>86573184
>No Hogarth.
Successful lawyer lady, milf status, stays out of the shit as much as possible after that purple man fiasco.

Peaceful life forever, bros.
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>>86576728
no, but they ate chinese food earlier on
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>>86573894
i did like the Toph joke with stick.
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Stick has no chin and no shoulders, he looks like a worm
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>>86574507
Was bummed that the final fights were so separate.
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>>86576853
I don't know why i laughed
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>>86574550
Yea i was expecting him to be similar size to DD. But maybe it's because he's "younger"? I think they talk about his diet in his season?
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>>86575365
Was fucking Bakugan or whatever his name wearing a vest when Misty shot him? Or was that some mystical im too tuff for bullets nonsense?
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I wanted to see more of Elektra kicking Jessica's fat beautiful ass. Not enough girls fights, are the writers fags or something?
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>>86576957
Bakuto
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>>86576981
It seemed like only Jessica slapped Gao around. Everyone else who tried just got jobbed. I was hoping it wasnt a "no man vs old woman" shit.
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So how old are the five fingers? Like 500 years old? Or some retarded shit like 10000 years old
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>>86570363
I'm only on ep 4 but stick is sitting their bleeding to death, wtf doesn't danny heal him? Is he just being an asshole?
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>>86577052
the writers forgot he could do that.
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>we are not so different you and I
They literally say this
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>>86576010
Iron fist had the scariest villain of all the shows desu.
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>>86577069
Ah I figured as much
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>>86576645
Oh my bad.
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>>86577086
Who? Faramir? he was just a crazy with money.
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I liked it but that's because I'm a shameless pleb lover of capeshit. It was very mediocre. IF still sucks and DD is easily the best part of it all. Only one decent fight scene. Poorly set up and not enough engaging content for only 8 episodes. Worse than DD S2. On the whole very underwhelming.
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The only characters I like is Luke and Matt
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>>86576728
That scene appears in the middle of the show instead.
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>>86577086
>I literally can't even remember who it was

The Bakugon guy?
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Waiting for The Defenders was really worth it.
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>>86577170
bakura, yes
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>>86577134
Also immortal and a scary fucker, he was always seconds away from some psychotic act, great villain doubt he's really dead
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>>86577086
God damn that show was so forgettable I can't even remember who the fuck was the main villain, was it Gao? The zombie corporate man doesn't count. Was it Bakuto?
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>>86570363
I couldn't understand what was going on in the opening scenes of the first episode, there was 2 people fighting but too many jump cuts to tell, then one would fall and another guy jumped in, can't they just hire some good actors/stunt doubles who can fight?
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>>86577170
No, [Spoiler]harold[/Spoiler]
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>>86577191
Yea they probably still had dried up dragon cum powder to bring him back. Didn't they cut off bakuto's head in IF? do they just toss that shit in the coffin and you come back out all fine again?
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>>86577238
>Didn't they cut off bakuto's head in IF?
I think it was just a katana to the chest
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The writers also forgot about IF's BFF who just wanted to do his job. I thought he would have wanted to help with this hand slaying shit.
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>>86577238
Nah he's dead, probably, Harold still alive though somehow
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>>86577261
That show was so damn forgettable i don't remember lol.
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>>86577262
He's dead (but is resurrected for season 2)
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>>86577262
no lol
he's mad as fuck and wanted to kill danny
He blames danny for the destruction of kung lao
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>>86577238
No, (IF spoilers) [Spoiler]they killed bakuto but the hand took his body before they could finish the job iirc. Someone with the hands immortality will keep coming back unless the head is either destroyed or removed from the body. [/Spoiler]
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I want Elektra to fuck Misty up so bad. I want her to face Thanos or something even bigger for her to realize she's an ant talking to gods. Get the fuck out of the way nigger
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>be assassin fighting iron fist in first episode
>see his hand start glowing
>could easily turn and run or stab him of slash him
>Stand there and watch
>Get hit by him

God damn I hate this shit, why do they think someone would stand and watch someone else powerup in a movie? Fuck if I was fighting a guy and he started doing some weird glowy shit I'd either take advantage of him standing still unguarded or run like fuck
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>>86577231
You fugged that up. Harold was alright, bakugon sucked dick though.
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>>86577262
Davos becomes the steel serpent another immortal weapon, dannys no1 nemesis, he's probably trying to get his weapon so he's ready for iron fist s2
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>>86577346
That sounds neat. I hope they don't fuck THAT up.
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>>86577291
>>86577301
He's not dead he ran away, he's in one of the other celestial cities becoming the immortal steel serpent
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>>86577332
>iron fist stars to power up his fist
>assassin kicks him in the nuts
like come on no eye gouges or stomps or anything?
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>>86571664
Both Iron Fist and the Stick are trained in the same martial arts from K'un-Lun. The Stick trained Daredevil, so they're all in the same style. Now it's just a question of experience. The Iron Fist was only missing for 15 years and during that time he never participated in actual combat, just training. Daredevil has well over twenty years of experience and has been exposed through combat not only through being Daredevil and his fights with Kingpin, but also through the Stick and Elektra throughout his past. He's trained longer and has much more experience than the Iron Fist.

And all of that is not even counting the fact that the Daredevil has supersensory powers that lets him hear heart beats, muscle fiber bunching, tendons tightening and knowing when people are about to throw punches and pull kicks.

Lastly, and most importantly, even in the comics Iron Fist jobs to Daredevil. In no world would Danny ever beat Matt.
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>>86577393
Read the immortal iron fist sometime, tbqh IF lore>all the others, they have a mortal kombat style tournament every 10yrs iirc, the immortal weapons from all seven cities fight, ironfist stories are great
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The chaste wanted to just lockup the site with the door instead of destroying it for what reason ?
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>>86570363
Yeah, Iron Fist lost the girly perm. I liked it overall but I felt they dropped the ball on that last episode. Some of the lighting and green screens were atrocious, I wonder what the fuck happened there. You had this awkward lighting in the cave, lens flare glaring on the camera and that elevator looked like unfinished footage, like a workprint or something.
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>>86577332
i don't get it either, why doesn't the bigger guy just eat the smaller guy? can't suspend disbelief with this in mind
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>>86573902
you can cover a bad smell with a turkish bath but you can never completely remove it
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>>86570459
It isn't nearly that bad, sorry about those DC shows being mournful, lad.
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>>86577332
>I'd either take advantage of him standing still unguarded or run like fuck
Unexpected or unnatural situations can short circuit the fight or flight response and trigger the freeze response which is your body's way of saying "hold still and hope you don't get noticed and eaten."

Our bodies are stupid.
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>>86577346

Hopefully they do the full Immortal Weapons in S02. Corporate and ninja-shit gets boring.
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>>86570363
>>86570363
it feels like everyone else got worse
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>>86577438
I'm pretty sure DD would win in a fight against the others. He had just met LC and was ready to throw down with him. Fought two fingers at the same time in that one fight, holds back against electra in final fight. Fucker is just ballsy.
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why does the choreography still sucks ass?
why is iron fists dialogue and acting still god awful?
why is every scene shot like the camera is wearing sun glasses?

how many scenes do you skip each episode?
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>>86570363

I feel like this show would have been a LOT more enjoyable if they had cast a better actor for iron fist. Or wrote a better character for him.
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>>86577518
trained ninja fuckers doing that though?
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It was great
I hope they drop danny's whole BUT I"M THE IRON FIST deal. I get what they're going for, but after so long it just seems kinda whiny
yes iron fist is a lot better esp the fight choreography
>dat DD vs iron fist scene
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>>86577591
seriously, leave his actor alone or i am going to fuck you up.
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>>86577445

Hell, that story brought Iron Fist back to the mainstream. Danny was a forgettable street-level character before that and now he's A-team material.
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>>86577596
>trained ninja fuckers doing that though?
Were they trained to fight people with glowing hands?

If not the response can still fire.
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>>86577528
Yea danny needs to get back to kun'lun or start travelling around Tibet getting into crazy fights, comics were always best when they basically ignored Rand Corp
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>>86577591
I'm OK with the actor. They writing was the weak point in both shows. They wrote him as a hothead naive little shit, and he portrayed that pretty well imo.
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>old negro cop whining about "the law"
This is painful to watch. This is why the movies are better, the capeguys do what they have to do, they're in charge. In these "grounded" shows it's full of retarded people getting in their way, it's literally unwatchable. The "sorry I'm not special but please pay attention to me" shit gets unbearable
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The scene transitions are really awful. That stupid Run the Jewels fight scene was cringe. I also loved how Cage checks Fist's privilege then right after buys a chinese restaurant because he's rich.
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>>86577663
That was pretty funny. A little shoehorned, but entertaining.
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>>86570857
>what ever happened to the buff Chaste guy from Daredevil Season 1
Killed offscreen
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>>86577438
Danny can't lose a fight even I'm the comics this is fact, he can't lose I mean he loses all the time but in other ways
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>>86577556
Daredevil would beat Jessica Jones and Iron Fist. He already stomped the latter and was shown saving Jessica because she doesn't have fighting skills.

But Daredevil doesn't really have an answer for Luke Cage's invulnerability. Only Jessica's strength or Iron Fist's fist can break that. So it's really sort of a rock, paper, scissors deal.

Daredevil beats Iron Fist, Iron Fist beats Luke Cage, Luke Cage beats Daredevil.

And everyone beats Jessica Jones.
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so how much ass do you guys think rosario dawson ate to land the part she got? fucking every show
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>>86577714
She looks like she's dying. She probably suck dick 24/7 to play Claire
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>already 2 mins in and Jessica Jones has broken the law by stealing a car that was impounded
"defenders"
defenders of what exactly?
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>>86577705
https://translate.google.com/
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>>86577714

If they can somehow shoehorn in Dawson in the Punisher show then I'll be impressed.
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>>86577751
>defenders of what exactly?
Of the fucking world you fucking retarded faggot
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>>86577771
nope, instead we'll get more KARINNNNNN
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>>86577756
?
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>>86577744
checked, nice
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>>86577789
For what purpose must they break the law in order to do that
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>>86577640
>Yea danny needs to get back to kun'lun or start travelling around Tibet getting into crazy fights, comics were always best when they basically ignored Rand Corp
Literally the entire point of Defenders was making New York his new Kunlun. Matt sacrifices himself for Electra while asking Danny to defend his city, Danny comes to view New York as his home, Kunlun is destroyed, and Danny learns to incorporate Rand Corp into his crime fighting.
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>>86577751
Defenders of white supremacy, obviously. The Hand is a multicultural group featuring an old white woman, chinese woman, mexican, african and japanese guys. The Defenders are three white people and a black former cop that beats up niggers in Harlem.

desu most problematic superhero team active today
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>>86577793

Damn, they're packing the show with stone-cold killers.
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>>86577663
>loved how Cage checks Fist's privilege then right after buys a chinese restaurant because he's rich.

kek, I didn't even pick up on that
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>that scene where jessica runs over elektra with a car
>she actually threw it
I keked
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>>86577815
They are ABOVE the law. You don't have special skills? Tough luck maggot, stay out of the way.
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>>86577835
That was the only time i liked that character.

"Just fucking shoot that assho-"
"oh cool, she did it."
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>>86577816
Rand Corp can be destroyed in a day, its been done before
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Just wanted to say that Iron Fist was probably my favorite hero from this series desu. Reminded me of that Hot Shot character from those transformers cartoons I watched as a kid.
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>>86577771
>Punisher is killing people
>Rosario appears randomly and complains to Punisher about how she's out of a job because they can't tend to dead people
>Punisher realizes the error of his ways and adopts a no killing rule
>Claire pats him on the back
>Punisher gets beat up by a bad guy who insists Punisher kill him
>Claire then beats him single handedly and proves you don't need to be super to be a hero
>Punisher cheers her on
>>
New bread when
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>>86577882
No one is above the law
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>>86577451
>The chaste wanted to just lockup the site with the door instead of destroying it for what reason ?
Destroying it would have destabilized the ground beneath New York, killing thousands.

That or Kunlun wanted to preserve the site as a potential factory for more immortal weapons in an emergency. I mean the Chaste clearly subscribe to the greater good theory. I don't think they'd have a problem with destroying New York if it also destroyed the Hand and I imagine the Chaste reflect the will of Kunlun.
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>>86573809
Best shot of the show so far
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>>86577901
Contrived bullshit would be contrived.
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>>86577935
Superheroes are. That's the whole point
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You know for a Lot of guys who are complaining about it, you all seem to have finished it pretty fast.
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m'ask you something, thread

Is my boy in?
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>>86577996
>/tv/ is one person
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>>86577983
Isn't them being above the law also the whole point of shit like civil war? In real life I'd rather them be under the law.
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>>86577939
The elders and the chaste are two different things. It seems a former iron fist sealed the thing because he knew the hand would want access to it. He couldn't just build a building and drop it in. The Chaste serve the iron fist and fight the hand outside of Kun'lun they're obviously not allowed inside or to even know shit. There's a reason Danny didn't get told anything. The elders aren't stupid.
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>>86578016

Nope. His show gets a trailer at the last episode.
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>>86577438
Stick specifically says he was not trained by the Elders. We have no idea how close the fighting style/teachings are between the chaste and KunLun
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>>86578016
Nah. Not even referenced. After the last episode credits he did have a trailer for his upcoming Netflix series. Already on YouTube though.
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>>86578027
Everyone in this thread Seems to act like it
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>>86578035

Fuck this then. Thanks for saving me the time
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>>86577969
If they did it the way its suppose to go down it wouldn't be contrived, but they probably won't
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>>86578051
The Chaste can't go to K'un-Lun, only the Iron Fist can open the way. But that's where their training is from originally, before the way was closed. Obviously Stick was trained by older Chaste who were trained by older Chaste who were trained by older Chaste who were trained by K'un-Lun elders.
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>>86571602
This will never happen

Truly the worst timeline
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>>86577983
>Superheroes are. That's the whole point
A lot of superheroing would fall under citizen's arrest exceptions. They basically only break laws when investigating shit.

You are allowed to
>use violence to protect people in immediate danger
>use violence to stop criminals in the act
>use violence to arrest anyone you know is wanted for a felony
>use violence to arrest anyone you have strong reason to believe has or is going to commit a violent crime

Other than the petty B&E shit and stalking they aren't really committing any crimes, and those aren't even major crimes.
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Are RTJ friends with Marvel? Not that I'm complaining.
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>>86578028
The problem is when they have to fight a supernatural threat that wants to destroy a whole city and some hideous babboon is stalling them to "ask questions about the case"
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The fuck is going on with Kunlun? Elektra said she slaughtered everyone, Danny had flashbacks to everyone dead, but Gao said what Danny saw wasn't real.
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>>86578096
>only the Iron Fist can open the way
source?

>that's where their training is from originally
source?

Not saying you are wrong, it would even make a bit of sense. But unless I missed something that has not been established in the show-verse. Which has deviated quite a bit from the comics canon so I don't feel its appropriate to assume it applies here.
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>>86578275
Who knows.
Mystic shit.
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>>86578172
You forgot the whole bomb thing, but yeah, you raise a good point.
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I'm not gonna lie, when Elektra went off the rails and started acting crazy I got way more attracted to her
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OP needs to stop spamming his video. He literally posts it on /tv/ and /co/ every single day so he can get views.
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>>86578307
>only iron fist
Nah that's bullshit, the cities connect with our world every so often maybe once a decade anyone can travel back and forth at that time, also the elders can come back and forth anytime they like but that's a secret
>training
This is probably correct
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>>86578275
>The fuck is going on with Kunlun?
We don't know. We know that Danny thinks its gone. He may be wrong.

>Danny had flashbacks to everyone dead
That wasn't a flashback. It could have been a vision (or the past present or future) or just a vivid dream/nightmare. But since he never made it back to the city, it couldn't have been a flashback.

> Elektra said she slaughtered everyone
Elektra was also obviously trying to get under his skin to get him to lash out so she could trick him into opening wall/door to dragon skelly town

>Gao said what Danny saw wasn't real
Gao has been repeatedly demonstrated to be a high-level manipulator/schemer
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>>86578352
>You forgot the whole bomb thing
I'm pretty sure that was reasonable force considering the zombie ninja army's illegal mining operation that was going to destroy the whole city.

They did steal shit from evidence and probably violate explosive transport laws, but emergency and shit.
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>>86578498
>Gao has been repeatedly demonstrated to be a high-level manipulator/schemer
She always said, she never lied to iron first.
And i do not remember when she lied to him.
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>>86578464
>the cities connect with our world every so often maybe once a decade anyone can travel back and forth at that time, also the elders can come back and forth anytime they like but that's a secret
Do you have a fucking source from the shows or are you just here to make more unfounded claims?
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>>86578556
>>the cities connect with our world every so often maybe once a decade anyone can travel back and forth at that time
>Do you have a fucking source from the shows
? It was explained in iron first.
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I suspect that the K'un-Lun that Danny knew and lived at was actually a gateway or outer shell, so to speak, and he never saw or visited the real K'un-Lun. Elektra and the Hand massacred the gatekeepers, but never got into the real city. This is what Madame Gao meant when she said Danny didn't see what he thought he saw.
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>>86578498
>That wasn't a flashback. It could have been a vision (or the past present or future) or just a vivid dream/nightmare. But since he never made it back to the city, it couldn't have been a flashback.
Danny went to K'un Lun with Colleen at the end of season 1 and niggas were dead
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>>86578550
You are right. However, in the past, she has presented things in a way as to provide the wrong impression. A "lie by omission" sorta thing
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>>86578234
We could always make them a special part of the government and maybe have a director or someone that's allowed to chose on their own whether or not they're deployed I guess. We could make it work.
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>>86578498
>Gao has been repeatedly demonstrated to be a high-level manipulator/schemer
She's also been repeatedly demonstrated to only care about getting back to Kunlun, which would make a strong argument for her telling the truth about it not being gone.

Best guess is Danny wasn't in the true Kunlun, but some sort of outpost. Kunlun has been shown to be a bag of dicks to Danny and not tell him anything. My best guess is they're going to turn the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven into greater Kunlun in the Netflixverse.
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>>86578556
The comics of course mainly 'The Immortal Iron Fist series, and until proven otherwise by the show I'll assume the lore is the same, so far its only been reenforced and has yet to be contridicted
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>>86578616
Actually they never go INTO kunlun
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>>86578616
He got as far as the pass that leads to KunLun and like a half dozen monks were dead. Killed by who knows what though obviously the Hand being a good guess. Before he can get any closer the city poofs out of phase or some shit.
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>>86573707
This. He should be a fucking avatar or some shit.
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>>86578641
As long as there's no niggers I'm on board
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>>86578605
Got an ep and approx time? Link to a clip?

>>86578613
Interesting theory. What gave you this idea?

>>86578647
The shows have thus far noly been very loosly based on the comics. Much has been changed. You are welcome to believe however you want but presenting those assumptions as fact isn't really cool.
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>>86577301
>the destruction of kung lao
>kung lao
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>>86578643
Yea agreed, kun'lun and the thunderer are absolute assholes, they probably left and didn't tell danny cause they were butthurt he left them
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>>86578663
>Before he can get any closer the city poofs out of phase or some shit.
Does not happen. S1 ends before they get to Kunlun proper standing over the bodies of dead Hand in the pass. Defenders starts with a dream sequence of him seeing dead monks in Kunlun and it's implied by Colleen and Electra that they saw that shit in person in Kunlun.
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>>86578641
>what if we enlisted/employed, trained and payed super heroes to work for the government
>no way fag
CIVIL WAR
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>>86578767
Please carefully reread what I wrote.
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>>86578745
As are you, believe w/e you like, but I've predicted everything that's happened in all these shows because the lore is close enough, specifically IF is almost exactly the same, except his parents death was waaaay more fucked up
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>>86578750
You mad, my negro?
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>>86578798
The city never poofs out of phase. I read what you wrote.
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>>86578767
No watch the last 5 mins of the last ep of IF, the city was gone, that was a nightmare he thinks everyone s dead, they ain't
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>>86578745
>please spoonfeed me: the post
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>>86578857
>>86578767
It's true, the actual city was gone
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>>86578767
>. S1 ends before they get to Kunlun proper standing over the bodies of dead Hand in the pass.
No, they go to gates and nothing behind when. Passage closed.
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>>86578857
>>86578891
>>86578928
You're right, I somehow forgot that shit.
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Jesus christ the camera work on the last cave fight is abysmal
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>>86578750
I was being retarded on purpose and referencing mortal kombat
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>>86577711
Actually daredevil knows pressure points, and that still works with cage you just need to apply a huge amount of force in the exact right spot, armored matt with his sticks could hit those points with perfect precision and force disabling Luke, one decent hit from Luke tho and hes fucked, it would be close
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>There was a version of this season that ended with Matt having to run out of a date with an approving Karen who along with Foggy weren't assholes all season, Elektra stabbing Alexandra as the cave collapses in around them only to wake up in a bed with Madame Gao beside her, Danny being approached by Stick to discuss the Chaste and their connection to Kunlun, Luke accidentally being a dick to Claire about her not being bulletproof to the point where she breaks up with him and falls into the waiting arms of Colleen, Hogarth and Patsy talking about a side business for clients with special circumstances she wants Jessica to join, and Jessica still being a drunkard in a broken office
>we did not get this version
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>>86579414
Beyond that there's always eye gouging and jamming his stick down his throat.

I caught a dude in the back of the mouth with a chair leg thrust in a fight once and let me fucking tell you, that shit ended the fight.
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>>86579454
Harsh dude, but yea matt is a beast in fights like batman he holds back so he doesnt perminatly disable/kill people, the couple times he went all out he was unstoppable
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>>86579517
>he was so pissed off after elektra died he actually thew nobu off with the intent to kill him
>"you're just one bad day away from becoming me" says the punisher
>yfw
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>>86579705
Nobu was already dead
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>>86579725
no he wasn't
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>>86579736
>>86579725
>>86579705
Remember when matt "killed" nobu on season 1 and when foggy asked him if he had killed anyone before he said he didn't?(he had no idea that nobu was alive)
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>>86579705
>one bad day from becoming frank
Yep, it kinda happens a few times always cool, of course at least one time he tries it kingpin pushed his shit in
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>>86579906
Oh yeah that's true. But that was kinda self defense at the same time
This time it was straight up, cold intent to murder
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