Why don't we have movie heroes like Indiana Jones anymore?

Soccer moms took over.

you know why you fucking faggot

>>86533466
Haven't you heard OP Nazis aren't bad guys anymore the president says so.

>>86533466
Could they get away with this today?

Because Harrison Ford is fucking old and Hollywood rarely casts manly men.

>>86533564
Yes.

But /tv/ would get flooded with snowflakes from /pol/ literally shaking over it for several weeks after the movies release.

>>86533466
>Not knowing that h. ford suffers from severe social anxiety and that is the reason why he is so grumpy in all of his interviews. He plays a tough guy like every sensual male has to, you faggot.

>>86534358
I feel kind of bad for him, he's always so uncomfortable in interviews.

>>86534306

I remember people complaining about Russians/Communists being the enemy in the latest one when it came out.

>>86533466
Because it would be incredibly boring. Even more boring than The Farce Awakens.

>>86534358
Or maybe hes just an asshole in person

Reminder that Indiana Jones took advantage of an underage girl and slept with her multiple times while working for her fater

>>86533466

because everybody's making movies for teengirls so main character has to be angsty female now. or angsty campgay black trans.

>>86533466
Indiana Jones is pretty flawed though, he's afraid of snakes like a fucking complete pussy and he fights the Nazis. He's a Jew playing a "hero" created by Jews.

Hitler was a more heroic man in real life than even this essentially capeshit fictitious hero Dr. Jones.

>>86536137
You're a fucking idiot and a faggot to boot.

>>86536137
>Muh Hitler

I guess loving losers is a thing these days.

Not only are there currently no good leading actors for a movie like this, there's no good directors for it.

>>86536352
That's actually a good point. We have plenty of directors who can do drama and genre type stuff. But how come adventure and action directors all suck these days? The action is usually shitty and people just sit around and tell the story instead of live it. The fucking dialogue has overtaken the actual performance of the story.

>>86536247
See now you understand OPs point. Hitler is cool, Lenin is cool, North Korea is cool, flawed antiheroes are cool, nobody is ever good because good is a lie.

Emasculation of men you pleb

>>86536137
>He's a Jew playing a "hero" created by Jews.
Indiana Jones is a Christian, you dumb stupid idiot.

>>86537225
Harrison Ford is a Jew and so are the creators of Indiana Jones.

indiana jones was never good

>>86537254
The CHARACTER is not Jewish you fucking faggot. Do you not get how fiction works?

>>86537166
Your schwartz is as big as mine!

Indy was an asshole adrenaline junkie with daddy issues. That got him into enough trouble, he didnt need any other flaws.

>>86537198
no, it's just the Indiana thing is very cliche

>>86537332
How is it cliche if it's never done anymore?

>>86533466
Deeply flawed protagonists arent a new thing OP. Captain Nemo was a revenge obsessed former noble and he's always been an extremely popular literary figure.

>>86533466
good night alt-right

Thing I liked most about Indy was his plot armor was thin.
Guy got hurt over the course of the film, and it showed. Wasn't an invincible superman.

Crystal Skull of course shit over this aspect.

>>86533564
antifa here, not memeing. i get hard i get to beat to a blood pulp these fucking /poledditors/ neo-nazis, stormfags etc whenever i see them at rallies. one less internet faggot to that shits up the forums. makes me smile knowing these retards are getting what they deserve

>>86537474
You're trying to hard. Be more subtle if you're going to roleplay.

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>>86537474
>LARPing this hard

>>86537496
>>86537509

see you at the next rally faggots :^)

>>86537518
I'm Australian asshole.

>>86537268
Rabbi pls go

>>86537394
it's kino, the whole action hero thing. it's like james bond desu

>>86533466

Toxic Masculinity

>>86533466
Raiders Indy was somewhat flawed. It was implied he fucked Marion when she was underaged and then ran away (also seems to imply her dad found out and that ruined the relationship). He gets beat up a lot and his body is pretty broken.

Blame years of Arnold/Stallone type heroes. They spent years making movies about boring demigods with no flaws.

>>86533466
cause we are more cynical now

>>86538071
>we're more cynical today
Did you just forget all about 1970s New York?

>>86533564
>straight white male protagonist
Nope, not a chance

>>86538467
Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Batman, etc...

You fucking dumbass.

>>86538596
>Thor
A woman
>Iron Man
A nigger woman
>Captain America
a nigger with wings
>Spider man
A nigger with no personality
>Batman
Okay you've got me there.

>>86538596
Guardians of the Galaxy

>>86538656
In the movies. Why are you being willfully dense?

And fucking Peter Parker is still Spider-Man in the comics. Miles is just another one. Jesus you suck at this. God damn Steve Rogers is going to be Cap again after Secret Empire and Sam Wilson back to the Falcon. If you're gonna talk shit, know what you're saying.

How can I own a small Chinese boy?

>>86539421

best character in temple of doom. when they hugged near end of movie i got so hard. when he fought elbowed that young prince boy i almost came.

>>86538467
Harrison ford is Jewish

>>86533558
you need to go back

>>86533466
Spielberg suggested Indy should be a drunk cynical tomb robber. George told him Indy would be a role model for kids instead, he would be a sober university professor. I hate Spielberg

>>86539588
The brainstorming transcripts for Raiders gets a bit creepy in parts

>>86533466
Because America is so cucked now, that showing people punching poor dindu Nazis is bad somehow.

>>86533466
>Everyone has to be flawed deeply troubled.
Indy has daddy issues and is an awful archeologist

>>86533466
Why aren't they making adventure movies like this and the Mummy anymore?

>>86533564

No. Beating up a Nazi in a movie means the right would immediately flood the internet saying

>LOL, another TOLERANT LIBERAL using violence against people who don't adhere to their SJW, libcuck, agenda!!! Guess anyone who wants what's best for the white race is a VILLAIN now!

>>86533558
>the president says so.
American detected.

>>86539644
They also show how truth can be twisted through the years. Lucas is the one that suggests Ford for the role. Spielberg suggested Mikhail fucking Baryshnikov.

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>>86540511

>>86540084
This

>>86537268
>The CHARACTER is not Jewish you fucking faggot.
He's a Crypto-jew.

>>86540511
>getting this mad when people point out you are a hypocrite
Typical leftie

>>86540662
all this /leftypol/ baiting is really getting to me. the repeated low tier false flags does get to you after awhile

>>86538678
3 niggers and 1 jewish comedy relief guy.

>>86538728
>In the movies.
All Jews.

>>86540701
>not doing your research

>>86533466
indiana jones had sex with an underage miriam and ge's unapologetic about it despite how clearly it screwed up her head. He's pretty flawed

>>86534358
This is what surprises me, except for Kurt Russel (who lives like a fucking cowboy) a big part of the "Manly action heroes" does things completely contrarian to their archetypes. Stallone for example loves cooking and art, Clint Eastwood is very peaceful and plays Jazz and Ford is a shy person.

>>86533558
Greatest timeline.

>>86534306
Liberals are the snowflakes though.

Get your buzzwords right.

>>86541298
this

>>86536137
>Hitler
>lost the war because he never accept the advice of his generals and lead his soldiers to death
>the pussy who never was in a fight in his entire life and the only person that he killed was himself

Honestly, if I would be a Nazi or white supremasist, I would feel ashamed of this little fgt.

>>86540841
Can't see your logic there, champ. There's no flaws with Indy on that

>people not getting the Jewish undertones of Indiana Jones

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-raiders-of-the-lost-ark-1981
>We have seen "Schindler's List" and we know about his Shoah Project. Those are works of a thoughtful adult. "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is the work of Spielberg's recaptured adolescence, I think; it contains the kind of stuff teenage boys like, and it also perhaps contains the daydreams of a young Jewish kid who imagines blowing up Nazis real good.
>The ark, if found, would be the most precious Jewish artifact imaginable -- the chest that held the Ten Commandments that God gave Moses on the mountain top. "An army which carries the ark before it is invincible," Indy says; Hitler wants to steal the heritage of the Jews and use it for his own victory.

>>86537474
and then you woke up in your cum stained boxers and wonder why your life is so shit

>>86541358
dont ever reply to me again or I will snatch your maafuh birday

>>86541286
You might start to think that they're actors, but I don't know anything about that!

>>86541342
>>the pussy who never was in a fight in his entire life and the only person that he killed was himself
read a book sometime.

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>>86533466
Because Indiana Jones is a carryover from 1930s adventure serials. Also capeshit took the place of actual heroes

>>86533466
>Why don't we have movie heroes like Indiana Jones anymore?

Because we don't get that much original content anymore.

>>86538167
I don't know about that. is it something representative of the entire western world?

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>>86533466
Does anyone know where I can get one of those swastika arm bans?

>>86533558
>Hollykike can't use the "MUH EVIL NAZIS" trope anymore
kek

>>86540841
It fucked up her father's career, but as he says to her, "she knew what she was doing".

She was probably your average slutty schoolgirl/university student, it just got a lot more publicity because of who her father was.

>>86537254
No, George Lucas is the creator of Indiana Jones and he's not a jew, you fucking stupid faggot

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>>86533558
why did he betray us bros?

>>86541843
>Trump is a based radical centrist like me
neat

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>>86533558

this wouldn't have happened if Hillary won though

>>86541898
>Baltimore
still a shithole lmfao

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>>86541898

>getting triggerd by some statues

AYYY

>>86541898
All these low IQ faggots still think the Civil War was all about slavery

>>86537474

enough larping for today

>>86533466
It makes so fucking sad that River Phoenix had to die, otherwise we'd have had another triology. The guy could have been Harrison Ford son for all we know and he was such a fanboy of Indy.

Fucking shame

>>86541309
>liberals are the only snowflakes
Kek, I would think the other day debunked this...

>>86541541
What did that anon say that was wrong?

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>>86541964
>being cucked to the point where your tax money goes to the upkeep of dead, confederate losers who lost a war and had every inch of their memory and "culture" deservedly destroyed for hundreds of years

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>>86541898
>rebels
You mean losers?

>>86541286
Get a load of this guy, next you'll tell me people who portray Hitler in movies aren't Nazis in real life.

>>86541309
>Liberals are the snowflakes though.
How many "reeee stop casting niggers in my shit" threads did you see on /tv/ just today?

Why are Americans getting so triggered by the government removing statues of rebels?

>>86543741
Because America is retarded.

>>86541898
Why is this a big thing? Confederacy lost and losers' statues get removed. Same with every civilization.

>>86544364
Many are memorials to fallen soldiers, not the confederacy itself.

>White people care about a bunch of fucking stone art pieces.
Why are white people so fucking stupid?

>>86533466
Part time!

>>86544602
Traitor soldiers, not Americans.

>>86544364
Because it's an important part of history. Whether they are displayed in museums or in public parks makes no difference to me.

>>86544694
Americans are traitors themselves.

>>86544699
There is a major and financial difference between a museum and the lawn of a court house. I don't want my tax money to go to Confederate faggots. Sure, they are pieces of history, so put them in a museum about the Civil War. I don't want to see slave owners outside my courthouse. That seems reasonable. We don't erect memorials to British soldiers or King George.

>>86544757
We pulled down all the statues to King George, where was the outcry then? You people are hypocrites just trying to find excuses to commemorate the literal losing side.

>>86541342
>lost the war because he never accept the advice of his generals and lead his soldiers to death
more to do with the 40 plus daily doses of every drug from methamphetamine to cocaine to testosterone to morphine and oxycodone administered by a newly appointed and incompetent physician
theodor morell lost the war for the nazis
hitler was whacked out of his tree in his final days

>>86544816
There is literally no realistic scenario where Nazi Germany would have won the war.

>>86544774
Except there are monuments to british soldiers and even Cromwell

>>86541309
>O-Only we get to use our secret code words that don't apply to us!

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>>86544804
>American baby upset he is called a traitor and hates the idea of being betrayed himself.
lol ok ameritard. Christ Americans are fucking retarded.

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>>86533558
>Haven't you heard OP Nazis aren't bad guys anymore the president says so.
The Nazis didn't lose the war.
They just switched sides

>captch: select all with store front

>>86543718
>Muh whataboutism

>>86544948
He's on your side of the argument, dummy

>>86544868
Literally where? Show me.

>>86544975
>you are X
>well so are you, hypocrite
>NUH UH WHATABOUTISM

That's not how it works pally.

>>86545026
That is literally a whatabout, retard. What happened to this board?

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>>86541964
>getting triggerd by the removal of some statues

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>>86545045
Fucking hell is summer vacation not over yet? Not every "what about X" is a whataboutism, it is one however when X is unrelated to the matter at hand. Jesus mate.

>>86545045
it got infested by retarded /pol/estinians

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>>86545026
>that's not a whatabout!
>it is a whatabout!

>>86534306
>/tv/ would get flooded with single post OPs pretending to be mad about it while the thread hits bump limit with nothing but normalfags getting fucking triggered over the idea that anyone would ever even jokingly sympathize with nazis
fixed.

>>86545090
>Not every "what about X" is a whataboutism
Yes, it is.

Are you pretending to be retarded, mate?

>>86536137
>everyone responding to you seriously
newfags really need to fucking kill themselves

>>86545026
>b-b-b-b-but what about -
>Thats a whataboutism
>N-N-N-NO IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST ME!!
Christ can't you redditors at least learn to argue before you come here?

>>86544364

>HURRRRDURRR YOU LOST TAKE DOWN YOUR STATUES
>STOP HONORING THE MEN WHO TOOK UP ARMS FOR THEIR STATE
>STOP PAYING TRIBUTE THEY LOST

Yankee detected, kys.

>>86545144
It's politically fueled retards with no irony

>>86537464
This is the aspect that's missing. Indy took battle damage and it felt real. He frequently got his ass beat and won by a variety of ways - getting bailed out by an ally, just gritting through it on sheer meanness, being smarter, being luckier, wanting it more, etc. John McClane was exactly the same way. Arnold and Stallone's characters were more invincible action hero, but really, they're not the ones to blame.

Jason Bourne is.

I love the Bourne movies, but ever since they hit the scene, Hollywood's given us nothing but a succession of hyper-competent human weapons. It's no longer about how they're going to win, but just how cool they're going to look when they do.

This is why I enjoyed Atomic Blonde so much. She got the everloving dogshit kicked out of her by the end of the movie. She had to be resourceful and utterly ruthless just to come out *barely* on top.

>>86545137
"Wow Americans killed a jew, what anti-semites", says Adolf Hitler.

Nothing wrong with his statement?

>>86545162
>STOP HONORING THE MEN WHO TOOK UP ARMS FOR THEIR STATE
They rebelled, anon. They were traitors. Yes, these men should stop being honored and forcing me to pay tax money to keep them standing. Fuck off you cucked retard. Put the statues on your own yard, leave public land alone.

You can honor all the traitors you want on your own yard. Confederates, ISIS, Taliban, KKK...go nuts.

>>86545164
no, the guy who said Hitler was a better hero than Indiana Jones was b8ing. You can tell if you aren't a retard. The retards are the ones who respond seriously and get extremely mad. It's a perfect example too
>one anon makes b8
>4 anons seriously respond
>thread goes to shit
the reason that
>/pol/ invades other boards
happens is because people facetiously b8 because its funny to them and then the people taking it seriously ruin the threads. newfags and normalfags don't know how to ignore b8 because they think that the internet is real life

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>>86541801
there are several left behind in charlottesville after the LARP righters got naked because they were shitting themselves

>>86545197
I have no clue what you are even saying.

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>>86545104
did you know words can have more than literal meaning?

>>86545242
You mean, metaphorically?

>>86536137
I like totalitarianism and Hitler types but this is just a retarded post lmao

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>>86545231
>"you're a nazi" says Hitler
>"but what about you, Hitler?"
>"NUH UH WHATABOUTISM CHECK AND MATE PALLY"

>>86545212
/pol/ is still real and comes to /tv/ often.

>>86545231
he literally thinks that if the person he is arguing with is guilty of the same thing then he is justified in doing it as well.
>dad smokes
>"hey son don't smoke"
>"but you smoke!"
he thinks this is a legitimate argument. it's because he thinks arguments are about personal/social value rather than objective truth. he thinks that if Hitler called someone an anti-semite>>86545197
then a proper response would be to call Hitler a hypocrite. He thinks that a person's mind should be focused on defending their own personal merit vs the person they're arguing against, so defending american anti semitism against Hitler seems easy since Hitler is obviously the bigger anti-semite.

>>86545283
Yes, that is a whataboutism...

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>>86545290
Oh wow people from one board come to another?
That must be a fucking magic or something.

>>86545290
who cares? laugh it off. if I blame the jews for something you should casually chuckle or at worst hide threads you don't like. i can't imagine being legitimately mad about that shit

>>86545290
Reddit comes to /tv/ a lot too/ /got/brought them and now we are getting SJW posters everywhere.

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>>86545365
We see you, faggot.

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>>86545331
That's right, it is no longer allowed to call out hypocrites because muh whataboutism.

>>86533466
Georgie Explains it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQ1WfJasL8

>>86545391
You can, it's just a literal logical fallacy that isn't a real argument.

>>86545318
>he literally thinks that if the person he is arguing with is guilty of the same thing then he is justified in doing it as well.
I'll take tribalism for 500 Alex, this exact thinking of "If you call me out on my bullshit you're on the opposite spectrum/are a leftie" is what killed /pol/.

>>86545318
Is this what autism looks like?

>>86545414
Being obsessed with logical fallacies to the point of blatantly disregarding context is also not a real argument.

>>86545362
I don't ever get mad, fascinated or annoyed when every thread devolves into /pol/ shit or we get fifty Colbert threads a day clogging up the front page.

>>86533466
Because fighting nazis is considered controversial now.

>>86545391
calling out hypocrites is not arguing though. that's the whole fucking point of whataboutism; you're deflecting the argument instead of engaging in the argument. if Hitler called somebody an anti-semite and that person had persecuted Jews, that person would still be an anti-semite

>>86545337
Yeah I see /o/ posts here all the time
>fuck this movie. they only drive gay ass volvo and not dodge challenger like real men

>>86545454
>>86545391
why is it that /pol/tards always discuss things with the affected rethoric of a fourteen year old who just discovered the wikipedia page about logical fallacies?

>>86545480
>obsessed
You just seem really asspained that you got called out for doing a whataboutism. You could just learn from your mistakes and move on, kiddo. You don't NEED to double down like a retarded faggot.

>>86545485
I get frustrated with the /pol/b8 spam too, but the biggest problem is people responding to shitposting instead of reporting it. the shitty netiquette of newfaggots has always been what's ruining this website

>>86545508
I'm not /pol/, friend.

>>86541898
Why would Baltimore even have Confederate statues in the first place?

>>86545491

The post which started it all >>86543718 was literally just calling out hypocrisy, not an argument in a discussion, nor the start of one. That's why "muh whataboutism" does not apply here.

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>>86545511
is this you?

>>86545498
You see /fit/,/sp/,/int/,/tv/,/v/,/a/,/mu/,/vg/,/biz/,/[s4s], and /bant/ posters all the time.
If you go to /o/ you'll see memes from other boards on there as well.

There isn't a magic wall keeping you from going to other boards. Even /pol/ has leftists generals.

>>86545557
Except it still is a whatabout.

>>86545511
>resorting to insults
There you go I guess. Should have dropped "kys" in there somewhere though.

>>86545557
statement
>you're a snowflake
response
>you're a snowflake
it's whataboutism

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>>86545557
It was a whataboutism though. You sperging out about it doesn't make it less true.
Your entire argument was ''YEAH BUT YOU DO IT TOO!'' which isn't an argument rather a deflection.
Nice try though

>>86545569
We've reached this part of your "argument", huh? Well it was fun...

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>>86545587
Whataboutism is a discussion technique, not literally every time says the word "what" followed by "about". What is this autism?

>>86533466
to be honest I felt like Gendry in the recent GOT was the first manly action hero I've seen since the 90's

>>86545590
Kill yourself.

>>86545619
>''YEAH BUT YOU DO IT TOO!''
What is it with Americans and automatically applying tribalism to every discussion? It's always Team Red vs Team Blue with you guys.

>>86545642
>Whataboutism is a discussion technique
No it isn't, it is a fallacy. Are you genuinely this retarded? I can't tell.

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>>86545655
So we reached this part of your argumentation huh kekistani. Keep sperging.

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>>86545642
>not literally every time says the word "what" followed by "about".
Do you really think people are arguing that?

>>86545454
autists can't tell the emotional or logical motives behind other peoples actions. they can't see an argument and understand they the person makes it the way they did

>>86545713
>he thinks anyone besides him is sperging
>literally walked into that bait

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>>86545695
Oh my fucking christ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
It's a fallacy deliberately used as discussion technique. What is it with you and logical fallacies "nuh uh ACKCHUALLY this is not 100% what it means" is it autism or am I being troled here?

>>86541477
People get it, the difference is that most people don't give a fuck because Nazis are assholes.

>>86541971
What was it really about?

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>>86545801
>What was it really about?
Whataboutisms.

>>86545798
Why are you calling logical fallacies "discussion techniques?" You realize that is you using your own personal language and graphing it onto a word, right? Are you pretending to be stupid here? Please tell me you are following this conversation, nobody would call a fallacy a "technique".

Fucking hell man, you are so mad.

>>86545801
Slavery.

>Everyone has to be flawed deeply troubled.
Proof?

>>86545880
>Why are you calling logical fallacies "discussion techniques?
Every encyclopedia on the planet is, autist. Or do I seriously need explain to you to definition of "discussion technique"?

>>86545933
>Every encyclopedia on the planet is, autist
Except they aren't, please stop posting. This is embarrassing.

>>86545801
Ethics in gaming journalism

>>86545933
the "technique" though is to intentionally mislead and deflect. It's not a logical or respectable or acceptable technique. you should kill yourself

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>>86545977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

>>86545933
This is the most bizzare double down I have ever seen on this board. You know that? I truly believe you suffer from autism and are low functioning.

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>>86546020
>okay you are right but let me deflect really quick here, also kys

>>86546036
>Whataboutism is a propaganda technique formerly used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world, and subsequently used as a form of propaganda in post-Soviet Russia. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world
Nobody really knows or identifies it as a "discussion" technique, that isn't how it is talked about in our modern zeitgeist...

Why do you keep pushing this?

>>86546091
>arguing is deflecting
>deflecting is arguing
kill yourself

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This thread is ass cancer lmao

>>86546113
>encyclopedia doesn't say that
>yes it does
>okay but my subjective opinion says otherwise
Who was sperging about logical fallacies again?

>>86546182
It literally didn't say that. You are so autistic that I feel bad for you. You have a handler that needs to deal with this Asperger-tier secret language you personally communicate with and expect everyone to follow.

>>86546229
>y-you're autistic kys
There you go.

>>86546136
>/pol/tards stop spilling shit out of their mouths
>thread turn into cancer
wow, what a surprise

>>86546280
You were literally wrong in your own links...why do you keep going?

>>86546136
Whataboutism no longer looks like a real word to me

>>86546284
You mean "start" pouring out of their mouths, right?

>>86546316
>You were literally wrong in your own links...

>Whataboutism is a propaganda technique formerly used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world, and subsequently used as a form of propaganda in post-Soviet Russia. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world

>t e c h n i q u e
>literally wrong

I know I'm falling for bait at this point but fuck it you got me buttflustered anon.

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>>86546280
>>86546316
What about you two go argue over at reddit?

>>86546391
>inb4 whataboutism

>>86546362
You said "discussion technique", I was trying to explain how that isn't really the immediate term that comes to mind when anyone talks about logical fallacies and you spergef right out.

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>>86546391
>whataboutism

>>86546342
Godamnit
To early for me

>>86533466
9/11.

>>86541309
"Snowflake" meaning "fragile" is a left-wing redefinition. It originally meant "unique", with the implication that the person has too high an opinion of himself. It was still an insult but a completely different one. "Snowflake" was closer to "edgelord" than "crybaby".

Using the new definition of "snowflake" is very much like using "normie" instead of "normalfag".

>>86533558
>>86541843

BTFO

Back to Plebbit.

>>86545801
North attempting to destroy the southern industry.

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>>86544364
shut up nigger

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>>86533466
>A whatabout. I'll steal it! No one will ever know!

>>86546975
>/pol/ actually believes this probably

>>86546975
>southern industry
Error #404: "southern industry" not found.

>>86547108
>He never read a history book.
/tv/ really is getting dumb.

>>86547198
Sorry, I am not a fan of revisionist fiction. I'm not autistic.

>>86542718
Hitler fought from the start to end of WW1, only stopping once he was gassed by the British and being shot in the leg, leaving him blind for months and permanently crippling him.

He also never killed himself. Him and his wife instead escaped to South America like many other Nazis. His remains were never found, instead they left burnt human remains at the site. Currently it's claimed that they have his jaw but Hitler's dentist was forced to confirm this before he was executed.
>>86547227
Brainlet detected

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>>86546997
he's not wrong

>>86547276
Both sides were Americans fighting for their states, not a foreign country.

>>86547254
>Him and his wife instead escaped to South America like many other Nazis. His remains were never found, instead they left burnt human remains at the site.
You are baiting me, right? Are you larping as an /x/ poster?

>>86547322
If you rebel against your own country, you forfiet the right to call yourself American. Fuck off, traitor scum.

>>86547384
>fighting for state's rights is now anti-American

It's gotten to this point of stupidity.

>>86546975
>southern industry
>the same south that was sperging about abolition of slavery disrupting their largely agricultural economy
what did he mean by this?

>>86547384
South > North
Eat shit and die
>>86547476
The slaves propped up their economy. Hence it was in the interest of the North to remove them.

>>86547348
>Under Soviet control, Hitler’s remains could be kept secret, and physical access to them severely limited. Soviet leaders worried that if the body were left in the garrison or buried somewhere else not under their watchful eye, the gravesite would become a shrine for neo-Nazis. KGB director Yuri Andropov decided that the remains should be destroyed and authorized an operation to dispose of the body. The only things that were kept were fragments of a jawbone and skull, which were stored in government buildings in Moscow. (DNA testing recently revealed that these pieces did not belong to Hitler’s body, but were of female origin. Russian officials rejected that conclusion.)

>>86547456
>muh state's rights meme argument to avoid rooting for a losing side of a war chiefly fought to keep slavery as an economic option

>>86536137
I know you're being retarded on purpose but I still want to beat you for posting this

>>86547565
What are you quoting? None of this proves he faked his own death and snuck his way out if Germany. Are you fucking autistic? You don't actually believe that.

>>86547322
>Both sides were Americans
They stopped being Americans when they seceded tbqhwu senpai

>>86547532
>The slaves propped up their economy. Hence it was in the interest of the North to remove them.
Right...but owning human beings is wrong regardless, anon. Abloo abloo, faglord.

>beating nazis

I'm shaking right now. Fucking leftards, they're the real fascists nowadays

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>>86547532
>unironically believing slavery as a viable means of production

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>>86547348
Don't feed the troll

>>86547565
>DNA testing recently revealed that these pieces did not belong to Hitler’s body, but were of female origin.
Could it be the woman they burned and buried alongside Hitler? Or one of the countless others they buried in the general Führerbunker area? No, this is proof he lived out his days in Argentina.

>>86547637
Yankees didn't give a fuck you idiot. They were fucking the south over by giving them no power in the american elections. They invaded the south because their industry became competitive because of the slaves.

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>>86545414
If you had ever debated in your life you would know that playing "Spot the Fallacy" is not a debate ender. You do not win the argument by finding the fallacy. Wanna know why? Because there are over 300 (THREE HUNDRED) logical fallacies. EVERY. SINGLE. ARGUMENT. HAS. THEM. That's literally what humans do and it's literally human respond to dismiss those arguments because of X reason in order to 'win'. Did you know there is literally a logical fallacy which is when you point out a logical fallacy as the basis of your reason why his argument is shit? Just like you did? Well, guess I've won this one, you've just said a Fallacy Fallacy.

Read this picture and you'll understand that this is not how arguments work and nobody in the debate circles (and as sad as it is, I was one of them) would laugh in your face if after somebody had finished you went

>AHAH! GOT YOU! THAT'S AN AD HOMIMEN/ARGUMENT OF NATURE/ARGUMENT OF SILENCE

or whatever. A logical fallacy AT BEST weakens an argument, it doesn't defeat it because it can't because every argument has at least one and you're never gonna to actually discuss shit, learn and grow if you're playing 'Spot the fallacy'.

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>>86533558

>>86547784
>They invaded the south because their industry became competitive because of the slaves.
>economical death end
>competitive
what a horrible night to have autism

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>>86547784
It's happening again!

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>>86547916
It was clearly working.
>>86547932
Nah i'm not a southerner or a dixie I just know they did nothing wrong.

>>86547784
Keep telling yourself whatever revisionist lie that helps settle your sperg, Cletus.

>>86547984
I am JAMES not CLETUS

>>86547833
We get it, nobody should ever correct you from using a fallacy or else fall victim to your sperg powers.

>>86547833
Or you know, instead of going full buttblasted, you could just make better arguments and avoid fallacies?

>>86533466
Post modernism desu, nothing is allowed to be sincerely inspiring or joyful

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>>86533466

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>>86548621

>>86547586
Haha just fuck off. Comparing a fictional action character to one of the most brilliant political figures in German history and advancement is beyond stupid.

>>86548685
>Drugged up dumb ass who refused to listen to actual battle tacticians and generals about not attacking Russia
>Brilliant

Yeah, I'm sure he was feeling pretty fucking smart when all of Germany was crumbling around him.

>>86549388
Hitler was a shit military commander but was a political genius. Read a fucking book some time.

>>86549788
If he was such a hot-shit politician, why wasn't he able to peacefully expand his territory?

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>>86550697
The Jews

>>86541898

>destroying century-old monuments to American history because low-IQ libturds get triggered by anything that reminds them of historical events

Why are liberal politicians such disgusting cucks?
And why do liberals in general need their entire world to be one giant safe-space?

>>86533558
Dr. Jones was an alt left liberal professor

>>86547637

>but owning human beings is wrong regardless, anon

Then why did the North do it and only change that once their economy didn't need them any more?

The biggest port for the history of American slavery was in fucking Boston.

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>>86541898
>>86545071
>>86544364

Daily reminder.

>>86551012
If he was such a hot-shit politician, why couldn't he just convince everyone he was right?

>>86540511
>>86540597
>>86534306
>>86533558

ITT SJW retards fighting imaginary strawmen.

>>86534945
Except he graciously gives autographs for free and donates his time as a pilot to bring aide to haiti and helps in search and rescue ops

Yeah Fords a real asshole

>>86547984

>STOP POSTING FACTS AND TRIGGERING ME YOU REDNECK

>>86551084
Statues don't preserve historic figures. Statues honor them.

Ever seen a statue of Genghis Khan? Alexander the Great? Attila the Hun? Did you need to see a statue to know who they are?

>>86545071

You're the ones launching the campaign here, not us.

You don't get to get triggered and demand to have everything your way, then accuse everyone else of being "triggered" because they are not capitulating to your whims.

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>>86551462
Even more to the point, where a statue is on display can be every bit as important as what it depicts. Anyone saying that Confederate statues should be destroyed is a fucking idiot. Anyone arguing that they shouldn't be displayed in prominent locations, places of singular honor, in other words, well they have a point.

These pieces belong in a museum.