>'Hey, this is pretty good!' *characters start talking

>from the writers of iron man
holy shit I must see this, iron man had a fantastic memorable script

>s2 gets good reviews
>start watching
>'Hey, this is pretty good, why does it feel like I disliked the first season?'
*characters start talking to each other*
>'Oh right'

>"Hey, it's pretty good1"
>Holden shows up
>"I guess I was wrong"

>>86497008
Holden was hot though so it's ok

Holden really does make this show shit.

Chaotic Good truly is the absolute shittiest alignment.

>>86497940
Lawful Good is way worse.
It's not about the alignment, it's about being a horrendous cunt.
And Holden is more of a Neutral Good.

>>86497008

why is mars described as independent military? why not independent planet or independent government? is their military the only part of mars independent of earth while civilian government is still part of earth?

>>86497008
>any SiFi
>good

season 1 was one of the most overrated shows ever, but i gotta say i actually liked season 2

>>86498505

to clarify, i'm basing my question on the opening sequence of ep 1 season 1 where they state something like:

humanity has colonized the solar system.
earth and moon under u.n. control.
mars is an independent military.

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>"Wow this is great!"
>Amazon waits too long to pick it up

>>86498663
>british drama

no, thank you. brit sci-fi is always depressing sad. i want to enjoy and smile after watching shows not bawwwww and slit my wrist.

>>86497008
>'hey this is pretty good!'
*amos does literally anything'
>'htey this is pretty good!'

>>86498918
S2 Amos saves the show desu
He was kinda meh in S1 though

>>86497008
The first season and a half was good. It really went down hill in the second half of the second season.

>>86498663

show is based on novel where main character is a christian pastor hired to preach christianity to aliens called oasans who immediately accept jesus and later the pastor "realizes with horror that the reason Oasan's have embraced Jesus so much is because they take the tales of Heaven and Jesus rising from the grave literally".

that last part startled me. christian pastors are not supposed to believe in heaven and that jesus christ literally rose from the grave?

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>>86499139
Watch Silence.

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>>86497008
im not sure what i hate more his character or the faggy actor, but both of the combined are the worst thing about this show.

>>86499139
It's not explained well in that synopsis.

the aliens cannot heal even from minor wounds and die from simple cuts or bruises, hence a religion that promises resurrection is very appealing

I don't recommend the novel, it's full of liberal sjw pandering with muuh climate change.

>>86499251
Holden is awesome and the actor grew on me a lot. He is a very good fit for the role and the hate he gets is a meme.

>>86499266
inb4 a human die on their planet and suddenly the aliens go apeshit and purge the krishtians

>>86497008
>that scene where the female gook gets spaced
is like they know space at all mane
even interstellar made it better's

>>86497008
I really enjoyed the first season, but havent seen second yet because it's not on netflix and I cant be assed to pirate it.

>>86499251

actor is not faggy he's handsome hot. you're just jelly butthurt he's handsome hot.

>>86497940
No he is not hot, and he is not ok.
He is another Jon Snow, self insert for retards, destroying what it could have been a good show.

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>>86499251
>faggy actor
'Oh THAT'S why I hate him'

>>86499625

he's so much more handsome so much hotter in that pic. thank you for the handsome handsome hot hot pic, anon.

>Watch the show
>Feel like it was some half assed attempt to do Game of Thrones IN SPACE!!!
>Look up the books
>Literally written by someone who was the former assistant to that Fat Fuck behind GOT

>>86499834
It has nothing to do with GoT in either style or substance and the writers expressed dismay that the shows were being compared.

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>>86499190

>>86498646
martian society is heavily militarised, so they probably just referred to their entire society as "military"

>>86497008
I haven't seen the show, what's wrong with the talking? context?

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>holden acting like a whiny bitch the whole series
>gets his shit slapped by the proto monster
>he suddenly realizes how much of a gigantic bitch he's been and stops acting like a dramatic cunt

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I'm a big fan of the series. Read the books. I love the hard SciFi aspects. The political drama in the books is done better, but I can understand why they had to dumb it down a bit for TV. The action in the show is great though. They do a good job of capturing the important bits.

As for the actors. I think Amos and Alex are played perfectly. Excellent casting. Also Jared Harris and Thomas Jayne had solid performances. As for Holden and Naomi I'm torn. Some tines they nail it. But sometimes it feels totally off base.

I'm looking forward for season 3 though. I also like that they didn't cut the seasons at the same points as the books.

>>86501229
Naomi and Bobby are a disgrace. The others are great. Dawes and Johnson in particular (from the non-crew ones).

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>>86500781
>>86498646
In the books it's revealed that Mars is a pseudo fascist government. All of the population works towards benefiting the government to terraform Mars. They really get into explanations in the later novels.

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>>86501432
I dunno about Bobby. The actress is young. But I feel like they changed her lines to push a "strong woman" character. Could be either her acting or the writing.

Ironically the best female character is Drummer, in my opinion.

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>>86501593
Bobby is hardcore sjw pandering in both novels and series. Lets be frank.

Drummer is great. I also liked some of the minor characters like pic related.

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>>86501669
Martians in S1 were all boss.

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>>86501710
When you are right, you are right.

>>86499266
Oh lord, he's even an 'ecumenical' priest.

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>>86501669
True, but they really turned it up in the show. At least it was bearable in the books.

>>86501710
>>86501774
I support the Martians 100%. The books and show are slanted to make the belters sympathetic. But fuck the belt.

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>>86501931
Yeah the sjw bullshit is toned down in the novels, it's bearable.

>The books and show are slanted to make the belters sympathetic.

LOL, they wish. No one likes the Belt.

Martians are ok in my book, but Earth must come first

>next book this year

ye boi

>>86502122
Really? Whenever I see clips if panels all the fans there rave about belted culture. Maybe that's just selection bias though.

Earth is okay.

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>>86502242
Belters are scum and probably smell bad too.

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>>86502207
>December is 3 years away

REEE

>>86502242
I wonder that as well. I've never seen anyone that likes them on /tv/.

>>86501710

what's with that droplet he puts in his mouth when he interrogates? lie-detector drug?

>>86502342
It heightens his senses, lets him be sharp and notice even minor changes in body language, etc.

>>86502307
Being spaced is for sure the worst way to go.

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>>86502393
What about getting turned into space goo?

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Roci is so comfy

>>86502546
A close 2nd, if not tied.

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>>86502635
>tfw you will never get drunk in space.

>>86502868
That flip on the stairs to catch the beer. 10/10 would get drunk like that.

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I'm willing to risk pelvic damage. Are you?

>>86497080
The first one was pretty memorable.
More so than basically any other Marvel movie. It's pretty much the sole reason superhero movies became so big

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>>86503059
Saved. Thank you anon.

>>86503014
Death by snu snu!

>>86503152
Nice!

>>86503254
God the VFX are gorgeous.

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>>86503284
I love that they at least try to get something that looks realistic. Same that they do a lot of wire work even though actors hate that shit. and they'll fix the hair of characters in post in zero g to make it a bit more realistic.

Think it was from a Google talk but the authors flat out admit that the series isn't very scientific. Think they referred to it as wikipedia level of scientific accuracy. Story and characters come first, but just following some basic shit like gravity makes it a lot more grounded.

>>86503479
Yeah. I think most people just appreciate the effort taken to keep the science as close as possible to real life. Obviously it's not perfect. I.E. space ship sounds in space. But the creators said they're willing to bend rules like that to increase drama. Because being 100% scientifically accurate would make the show a chore to watch.

>>86503479
To add to my other post I did the math once on how much energy you'd need to add to Ceres and Eros to get them to produce 1/3 g spin gravity. Ceres isn't really possible right now. But Eros could be done assuming it didn't fly apart once it spun up.

Also the math on travel time was about right too. Within an order of magnitude anyways.

>>86498663

will i like this if i like the expanse. i need to watch some space scifi kino

>>86503960
I like that time and distance often ends up enhancing the story and drama because they try and keep it within realistic reason.

Things like light delay on communication becomes a major thing in the later books and I'd imagine it will be in the show as well.

>>86497008
> hey this looks pretty good
a bunch of 20iq minority women """actresses""" and other various genetic trash shitpiles start talking
> welp

>>86502307
WELL WALLA!

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>>86504136
It's different than Expanse. It's more like Outcasts, if you liked that one.

>>86504203
The light delay is a great touch. And the fact that space battles can kill you even if you don't get hit is intense too.

I find it a touch bizarre that AI is barely touches on though. Guess they wanted to avoid that can of worms.

>>86504296
Fucking skinny.

>>86504464
From the books at least the authors wanted to focus on the human elemental or something akin to that.

You'll find some snippets from interviews and whatnot when you google that question. I kinda prefer it. Can get rather boring if you do too much with robots/AI unless its a focal point of the story you want to tell.

>>86504571
Man I hope the series does well enough to make it into the later books.
I just want to see the battle with the Roci vs 3 ships from the last book. Alex and Bobbie showing fucking belters who you really pilot a Martian warship.

>hey this is pretty good
*black female appears on screen*
>i guess i was wrong

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>>86503479
>>86503960
>>86504203
>>86504464
>>86504714
I've linked this before, it is a GREAT interview with the authors. They explain their views on the show, science, how sci-fi stopped to be fun and became clinical, so they wanted a fun adventure in space, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCsPtUo91B0

>>86504909
wish amos would fuck me while im touching his biceps

>>86501037
almost like a character arc where his whiteknighting got people killed constantly

>>86504909
Seen that one, think that is where they mentioned wikipedia level of science.
Like you said its a great interview. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the books/show.

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>>86504949
Damn it man, we had such a nice thread going.

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>>86504808
I hope so as well.

>>86504994
>"well I saw some theory about heat from the engines used to reduce fuel usage or something, I liked it and called it the Epstein drive... we are never giving details tho, cuz someone will immediately put holes in the theory :^)"

I love it

>>86504909
I've seen that before too. I understand the points. I'm just saying you think it'd come up a touch more often. Like a background detail. Even at that level it's hardly mentioned.

Mission accomplished though.

>>86504808
Nemesis Games and Babylon's Ashes would be amazing to see on screen.

>>86504808
>>86505292
The last novel was dog turd tier filler, because the editors squeezed them for more books... it was basically a long introduction to the next one. 2/10. Everything before it was 9/10.

>>86505015
holy shit this is bad

>>86505479
Bobby was a mistake. Wrong casting as well imho.

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>>86505591
hahahahahaha holy fuck

>>86505421
Disagree. Last one was good. So far I think Cibola Burn has been my least favourite.

Though the end of BA was pretty Deus Ex Machina.

>>86505591
wat

>>86505678
You liked pointless belter drama with a previously unknown character?

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>>86505591
11/10 filename
Needs a loop for IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>86505716
You talking about Michio or Inaros? I liked that the book covered lots of perspectives of a conflict. Helped give it scale. Did not really enjoy the Medina station chapters. Those could have been dropped for more stories In The Sol system.

>>86505689
>>86505643
She's never seen the sky on earth before and got disoriented. Do you guys even watch the show?

>>86505871
Inaros. Literally the most bland character in the series. Michio was ok.

I would have had not problem with the story, if he had gotten at least some development. Nothing happened the whole book. I got triggered, because we were promised ayy lmaos and other solar systems and we got nothing. 2 years of waiting!

>>86505945
They handled it way better in the books. And I'm not trying to be a "the book was better" fag. But it could've been done much better.

>>86505964
I actually liked the Villian: Toxic Personality. But yeah, I don't give a fuck about subhuman belters, gib me more of the settling far away worlds.

>>86505964
>if he had

If IT had, the story

>>86505964
That makes more sense. Inaros seemed like a Machiavellian characature. All bark but no bite. Hope fully the next book is more in that vein.

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>>86506017
>>86506044
You now realize we are 70% through the series.

They must write more after it, right? Surely 3 books are not enough to wrap it all up with the current pace and plots.

I heard a rumor that they were planning another, sequel series, set a bit farther into the future. Mightbcool.jpeg

>>86506106
Depends on how much the ayy lmaos impact the plot I guess. And that might be interesting. If the title of the next one is anything to go by the next book will focus a lot more on the gate worlds.

>>86506181
We Stargate now.

>>86506181
>>86506290
>mfw the next book is set entirely in the solar system dealing with corporate espionage and mundane politics

muhahahah

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>>86506290
We at tenagra?

>>86501593
THAT is supposed to be Bobby???

What teh crap. I ditched this show after the second episode because teh casting was so shit. Looks like it was the right decision.

What is the metric for when a show gets canceled on SyFy?

This show had only like 500k viewers in season 2, that is like nothing. Stargate Universe was like instantly canceled and it had 1-1.5m viewers an episode when it ended?

>>86506454
lol'd

>>86506571
Bobby>>86505591

>>86506598
It's not hard set. Depends on producers for each show afaik. Expanse is safe for at least another season.

What was that shit about the procedure that takes away your emotions? They showed Amos very interested when it was explained, then implied he got it done, then it was never brought up again.

>>86506751
Amos has no empathy, he was thinking if it was possible to reverse the unrelated procedure on the scientists, maybe it would be possible to fix him as well.

Amos defends his family to the death, but can't empathize with others outside of it. Currently his family is the Roci crew.

>>86506598
They fucked up bad showing nothing but x-files knock offs, intentionally bad horror movies, and wrestling for five years. Now 500k is great for them.
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/

>>86506876
>syfy

The name still kills my soul.

>>86506625
Slightly better Bobby I guess. Probably pretty hard to find a yoked out 2m tall Samoan woman who can act.
The rest of the casting is still pretty shit. Generic cattle call of LA bartenders.

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>>86506941
Even worse, they recently rebranded to go for the so nerdy xd audience.
https://youtu.be/f11pxADO47o

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>>86507109
Disgusting, except the toaster, that was cool.

Remember when they were getting 2mil+ views on nBSG? Now 500k is great! gg

>>86499603
love her accent
i thought she was going to betray fred johnson but she is clearly the best girl

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>>86507251
Goddamn Dawes was really good, superb casting

>>86501229
the books are pulp at best

Is there a better currently airing sci-fi show?

>>86504297
that shit was unbearable

>>86501229
This guys face looks like cutting edge CGI

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So should i start with books or watch show first ??

>>86499834
i felt zero similarities between GoT other than the political conflict

>>86507727
The idea of several different characters having their own different but connected stories really far away from each other is pretty similar.

>>86506181
the Laconia gate, man I can't wait for the next book.

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>>86507478
No

>>86507694
Books first, you can watch S1 after book 1

>>86499745
no problem thanks for the autistic autism

>>86507694
I watched the show, then started listening to the audiobooks and the books still had a lot of impact.

I should go get hold of the books proper though. Freshen my memory before the new book is released.