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Are there any good unbiased films/documentaries about the pre-Civil War south and what led up to the Civil War?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqXWhG6IZ50
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*not including Ken Burns, I've seen those (trash)
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holy fuck that cop is the most based man on the USA
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>>86435918
>liberal soros paid protesters come in from all over the country
>TERRORIST GO HOME!
MFW
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>>86435793
>unbiased
look for something pre-90s
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You don't want an unbiased documentary, you just want one that'll suck off the Confederacy.
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>>86436913
And here comes the alt-left to shit up yet another thread...
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>>86435793
That video breaks my heart.
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>>86435793
The Civil War on Drugs
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>>86436913
Pretty much. A truly unbiased account would show the Confederacy for being the murderous band of aristocratic traitors that they were, their foot soldiers being easily lead along dupes fighting a rich man's war after being fed on romantic nonsense, and the campaign of terror the Confederacy waged upon its own rural population to keep them in line (see: East Tennessee and the role of 'bushwackers' in the Confederate army).
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>>86437183
>That video breaks my heart.
>>86436913
>>86437394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5k9_hT4nzA
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>>86435793
It really depends on what you mean by unbiased, because there's some on here that like to pretend like slavery wasn't actually that big a deal.
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>>86437477
Based confederate hero
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>>86437394
>the south were the dishonorable ones
Right. So Grant and Sherman's idea of total war where they murdered non-combatants from children and women all the way to the elderly, burnt and salted farms, raped and stole and forcibly enlisted unknowing immigrants right off the boat was all just the picture of northern gentlemanliness, eh?
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>>86437761
*knocks thread over*
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>>86437394
What was the Union fighting war for? Literally keeping the South in line. The advantage for the common Union soldier? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Yet Grant sent them to get slaughtered and filled with bullets so the South would run out of them.
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>>86435793

God bless this patriot
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>>86437707
>slavery wasn't actually that big a deal
that's a strawman as no one (who's not trolling) says that

it was a complicated matter and slavery was one of many political footballs

it's the left that speak in newspeak and absolutes of "it was only about slavery! north was 100% good! south was 100% evil!" etc. for present day political purposes
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>>86437878

poor immigrant labor could not keep up with the expansion of slavery to the west. if slavery was legal in the western territories, only rich slaveowners would have made money out there.

slave labor pulled the wages and power of non-slave labor down.
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And I'm supposed to believe the RIGHT are the terrorists?
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>>86437898
This. Slavery was a seriously complicated issue and it's easy to assume it wasn't when you are so far from that period.
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>>86437942
They absolutely could. Because an uneductaed slave is shit when it comes to anything more demanding than agriculture and educating slaves is a one way ticket to a slave rebellion. There is a reason why slavery was abolished in the North and it wasn't because people liked niggers, it was because it was more or less redundant.
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>>86437942
>slavery would destroy the economy
>only 6% of Confederates even had slaves
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>>86438016
Based White anon
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>>86438128

lol, yes, the "educated irish" definitely could do all that mindless physical labor so much better then those blacks!
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>>86437898
>absolutes
It wasn't always that way...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjfYP_5ASM

Politicizing history is sickening
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>>86435793
>"You want another day like Saturday, don't you?"

What did he mean by this?
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>>86438185


the economic value of slaves prior to the Civil War was enormous. by restricting the slave market to the South and forbidding it from spreading to other colonies, they were restricting the potential value of that asset. each healthy slave was worth hundreds of dollars, in 1850 America. Pretending like it wasnt a huge part of the Southern Economy is retarded. The 6% that owned slaves owned a lot of the wealth of the area,
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>>86437394
Because it's not like Lincoln basically turned the North into a military dictatorship and partly forced the South's hand in the first place with the tariff policies
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>>86437477
can you name that interview/documentary?
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>>86438347
I'm pretty sure that's from Ken Burns's Civil War. Shelby Foote is on there a good bit.
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>>86435793
By non-biased do you mean fictional?
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>>86438274
holy shit, left, right whatever WATCH THIS

this needs to be broadcast nationally
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>When I'm not at home sucking Republican cock, I'm at the park worshipping a statue of a dead Democrat.
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>>86438185
>slavery abolished

>southern slave states spend the next 150 years the poorest in the country

Hmmmm, it's almost as they were right when they thought the north was just trying to fuck them...
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>>86438538
>Republicans and Democrats are the same parties they were 150 years ago
Really putting that gender studies degree to good use, huh?
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>>86438401
>Ken Burns's Civil War
no it wasn't, it's from this CSPAN interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbFCwFHk9o

burns suck ass, except for the baseball one
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>>86435793
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>>86438600
Hey, Republicans love to point out that Democrats are the party of slavery and Jim Crow. How come I never see your voice of reason in those threads?
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>>86437477
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>act like brainwashed lunatics
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>>86437477
that based fucking cop at the end
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>>86435793
This makes you understand how the right to bear arms is related to free speech.
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>>86438221
>mindless physical labor

Confirmed for not knowing shit about pre-assembly line manufacturing
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>>86437010
>alt-left
Funny how rightards are embracing this term after working so hard to paint everybody left of center with same brush. You were better off attacking everybody on the left, now you're literally just attacking a fake decoy.
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>>86436913
I guess colonizing all of Africa and the Americas, and most of Asia doesn't count?
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>>86435793
You could try Gods and Generals
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>>86439128
Woah...it's almost like...that's what the left was doing with the label alt-right...
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>>86439176
what does that have to do with the topic?
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>>86439128
You're right, Antifa and BLM are mainstream left
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>>86439291
What part of the tiki torch wielding, khaki wearing, fuckbois weren't the alt right?
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>>86439128
the alt-right is better off attacking everybody else. Most of the RINOs tweeting out shit today are putting on an embarrassing display of how they lost elections by falling over themselves to not be called a nazi/racist/sexist. They still haven't learned that no one gives a shit; the lefties won't vote for you and the right won't vote for a limpwristed pantywaist trying to kiss the left's ass
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>>86439291

Except that the alt-right was a label that people on the right came up with to label themselves. Trump literally just pulled "alt-left" out of his ass this evening.
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>>86435863
Ken Burns is trash? Well, that's new.
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>>86439128
>Alt-left be like
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>>86439353

You'd be surprised how little centrist vote you'll get if you identify yourself as a fucking nazi. Trump's base doesn't give a hoot in hell about any of these labels, but the other 70% of eligible voters do.

Don't be a dunce and assume that just because you personally don't mind these labels that everyone doesn't mind these labels.
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>>86439351
But you call everyone alt-right. All the people who are against taking down confederate statutes? Alt-right (nazis) Gamergate?Alt-right(nazis) Conservative ? Alt-right (nazis) etc.

If you were literally just calling some random nazis nazis nobody would care but you just use it as a tool to paint the entire world who isn't on your side of everything as nazis.
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>>86439351
What part of black clad baseball wielding thugs weren't the Alt-Left?
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>>86438738
>4chan is one person
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Ride with the devil is pretty kino. Doesnt show the confederates as the good boys but at least avoid a complete manicheism
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>>86439359
I don't remember labeling myself alt-right.
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>>86439359
Hillary coined alright, Trump coined alt-left. Fitting really, libtards wouldn't be so triggered if it wasn't accurate
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>>86439376

He's just looking for some feel-good revisionist history. Its the kind of shit the Jap's are into these days where they are slowly convincing themselves that they didn't rape and pillage their way across all of SE asia, and instead they were actually benevolent, highly skilled liberators.
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>>86439418
>hillary supporters
>alt-left
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>>86438128
It was more or less because the North had industrial growth and infrastructure. The South had farming and that was pretty much it. The North could afford to give up slavery, and if inventions like the cotton gin hadn't been invented, the South would have abandoned slavery long before and tried to modernize in other ways.

Which just goes to show one undeniable truth: New technologies and more education improve the opportunities for wealth for everybody. The South chose to hang on to a dying system because they didn't want to change and their economy and people suffered for it.
Conservative thinking is the absolute worst at creating prosperity.
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>>86439457

This was an event led by richard spencer, the fucking guy that created the alt-right label and still uses it to this day to define his group that was at the rally.
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>>86439432
Ah, the left telling us exactly what the voters think. How'd that work out for you in the last election? 99.8% positive, wasn't it? Why not learn from history and acknowledge that you have absolutely no idea how the center thinks, which is why you got steamrolled.
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>>86439418
>Alt-left
>Alt-right
The fuck is wrong with American political discourse? These people are communists/socialists and white nationalists, there is nothing new (or interesting) about their views.
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>>86439533
>Hillary supporters
>not alt-left
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>>86439514
Hillary coined alt-right? Gonna blame her for everything the Right does, huh?

Or maybe it was a guy like Richard Spencer who popularized the term.
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>>86439359
This is absolute bullshit, the alt-right label was created by the hillary clinton campaign to demonize a voterbase they hadn't properly predicted and couldn't control.

Hillary Clinton's campaign ran into the problem of young conservatives on the internet, a voting block the democrats had controlled for as long as the internet had existed, so they rushed to label the entirety of them as Nazis, using the roundabout term "alt-right" because being upfront would have not worked.

It's the most successful forced marketing campaign I know about but wasn't timely enough to win her the election.
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Hello? Why was that obese black "woman" naked?
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>>86439457
The Alt-right was a self made term nazis, gamergate, and even trump adopted.

Also if you don't want to be seen as alt-right or neo-nazi you probably shouldn't show up to protest along side them in an event organized by them.
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>>86439553

>going back to the election, again

When you only have 1 win it's hard to talk about anything else I guess.

Trump won within the margin of error for what the polls were predicting, yeah it wasn't predicted that he would win, but it wasn't really a shock either to people that were actually paying attention to the numbers.
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>>86439576
Because dumbing down things is fun and Americuns are stupid

>>86439634
You're going to deny Hillary coined alright? Pretty sure it was at the same speech where she claimed a cartoon frog was racist
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>>86439646

Richard Spencer is literally on record saying that he created the label. Where are you getting this "hillary created the alt right" thing from?
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>>86439552
Richard Spencer is based though
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>>86439552
I'm specifically addressing the issue of you applying that label to literally everybody that leans even slightly to the right. Saying that specific group fits your label isn't a coutner argument to that.
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>>86439552
If richard spencer organized a 4th of July parade would you really call people attending nazis?
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>>86439549
>their economy and people suffered for it

The South's economy was based on exporting cotton which was relaint on big plantations and cheap labor. What was the alternative for the South? Industry? In Southern conditions with uneducated labor and North having a headstart?
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>>86439576
It reflects our mindless consumerism most accurately. Slap a new label on something and call the old shit new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8
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>>86439701
Nobody used the term before hill did the Pepe Speech
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>>86439701
>come out of nowhere onto the political scene
>immediately claim to be the head of a blanket political trend
nothing fishy about that at all
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>>86439761
That's a load of horse shit. You guys really are self-deluding.
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>>86439658
>within the margin of error
Alright, whatever you say. Go ahead and keep speaking for America like you did in the election. Keep telling everyone what they think and how they feel. Surely this will be different than last time.
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>>86439701
From the part where nobody had ever heard of the term until her speech in 2016, including nobody on the entire god damn internet.
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>>86438538
Something tells me you've put a whole lot of effort into understanding the boy.
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>>86438016
No ones a terrorist. Everyone to far to any side are just retards. This dichotomy is for idiots.
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>>86439576
Alt-right was a way of grouping non-nazis under the same banner as nazis. Most people hear alt-right and don't really understand completely they just think it is people who are on the right but not the mainstream right. Basically it's a term that will confuse both the left and the right so that people on the right will adopt it thinking it is just alternative-right as in not mainstream and the left will think it is a scary new movement. Essentially it's all about manipulating the public.
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Everyone in this video except the cops are stupid
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>>86439783
t. Alt-Left
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>>86439783

it really only became popularized beyond some internet fringe groups after hillary said it
now you people wont shut the fuck up about it
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>>86439725
Trying something would have been better than doing nothing.

It's the same thing we're seeing today when people talk about bringing jobs back to America. What jobs are they talking about? Sewing clothes and making baskets? Drilling for more oil and mining more coal? We should be leading the world in renewable energy research because that's where the money will be in the next 20 years. Nearly every other country in the world is striving for energy independence and we're still clamoring for the good ol' days when men would die of black lung in their 50s. They're going to have the headstart on the technologies that will benefit the entire globe and we're going to have to play catch-up.

Because it's easier than learning something new, right? Fuck it!
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>>86439718
Would he label it a White Nationalist Pride parade like he did the gathering Friday?
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>>86439814
Said the terrorist
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>>86435793
Gods and Generals
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>>86439909
The 4th of July is literally about White Nationalism and Declaring the Independence of our White Nation
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>>86439909
Maybe but most people will just go because it's the fourth of july. Are you gonna bash the fash skull of a nice old lady celebrating her heritage?
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>>86439987
Wow, triggering!
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>>86439887
>Trying something would have been better than doing nothing.

The left ideology personified. Let's discard what we have even though we have no viable alternative and it will fuck over thousands of people.

>renewable energy

Literally a meme. If you want large amounts of clean energy, spend on nuclear. Same with manufacturing. Shipping it overseas is stupid and fucks over all those who won't attain higher education
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>>86439788
>implying that's a poll
Why are so many burgers uneducated about their own politics?
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>>86440265
>when Ahmed restricts your internet searches
It was a Huffington Post poll you stupid nigger. A simple Google search would've answered that for you.
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>>86435793
>huh ur so brave you can't walk out the park by urself
Says the woman.
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>>86440215
People like you would have us still watering fields by hand, because irrigation would never work!
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>>86435863
literal pleb
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>>86440389
>It was a Huffington Post poll you stupid nigger.
Literally just a random ramshackle "forecast" based on nothing.

Where as actual prediction polls showed Trump and Clinton at a similar level, as >>86439658
pointed out.

Whenever someone mentions prediction polls, the only thing you retards can come up with is "LOL HUFFINGTON". Because you don't care about actual statistics or politics, just stale memes.
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>>86440511
And people like you are responsible for shit like Great Leap Forward. Say what you will about manual irrigation, atleast it fucking works.
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>>86440215
Besides, we know that we're running out of oil and coal. Where we get our energy from is going to get more and more important as the years go by. Doing nothing to address those concerns is idiotic and irresponsible. It's like knowing that the bills will be due on the 1st of the month and refusing to get a job.
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>>86439921
>>86439844
>>86439604
>>86439465
>>86439418
Why are the right-wing so bad at memes?
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>>86440710
There is a nice saying about this. "The Iron age didn't come about because we ran out of bronze."

When oil and coal start running out then it's time to look for another source. But we are nowhere near that point.
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>>86440843
uhh try again sweatie
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>>86439576
So until about the 60s, Democrats were the party of the South. Then the Civil Right Movement came along. LBJ, a southern Democrat, worked with southern Democrats to abolish Jim Crow laws in exchange for lots of infrastructure spending in the South. This pissed a lot of Democratic southerns off. So the GOP, starting with Barry Goldwater, devised the Southern Strategy, a plan to win the South by rebranding the GOP as The White Man's Party. And since 1968, it's worked! The problem is, the GOP hasn't really done shit for The White Man besides blow dog whistles and race bait. Finally, loyal GOP voters who really care only for identity politics got fed up with the GOP and said "fuck these cuckservatives, 1488, gas the kikes, race war NAO" and called themselves the alt-right. They want politicians who are gonna hang niggers from trees and throw their liberal colleagues from helicopters. They thought Trump was gonna be that guy because he took the feckless dog whistles and race baiting to another level, but they still don't realize he's just another LARPer who just wanted to be president so he could piss in Obama's bed again. In a couple years, they'll all be shipped to Gitmo and we'll continue building a civilized liberal society.
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>>86440907
Except we are. Even the Saudi Arabians know that their one-trick pony with oil isn't going to last forever. Hell, it won't even last another century. That's why they're trying to create a more broad-based economy right now. They're preparing for the day when their number one export will no longer be in demand.

There's another nice saying, "There's no time like the present." Right now we have an advantage. We know that one day our primary sources for energy will be depleted. We have plenty of time to research new technologies (which I must stress again, has always resulted in economic growth) and there's no real reason to put it off, other than laziness.
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>>86439468
#NotOnePerson
#NotAllMuslims
Hashtag it, boys.
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>>86435793
>some fat autistic faggot tries to stir up shit and dick around with a Confederate flag in full getup
>"muh ancestors didn't fight to keep slaves"
KEK, these are your "heroes"?
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>>86438600
Yep, we took the Democratic Party, now we're taking the GOP. How does that make you feel fuckboy?
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>>86441389
Makes me think you're not the ones in control.
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>>86438600
>now /pol/ cares about party shifts
You people are hilarious with how fast your narratives change.
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>>86440843
Are you literally shaking right now?
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>>86438852
They aren't dressed up as a Confederate with a semi-auto on their backs....
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>>86441389
Cuckservative Alt-Left sympathizers
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>>86441438
Do you feel in control?
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>>86441549
As long as the Lugenpresse is still calling Trump a Nazi, sure
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>>86441135
>one day

The key word. What reason is there to stop using coal/gas before it runs out? Renewables research can be left to the private sector no reason to spend billions on it prematurely.
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>>86441549
Do you?
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>>86441389
>we took the Democratic Party
lol and look how well that worked out for you.
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>>86441499
how they dressed is irrelevant, learn comprehension
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>>86441389
Funny how these rhinos think they're more relevant than the POTUS, they're all losers
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>>86441727
Actually how they dress is everything. Calling someone not in a KKK hood, the KKK, is incredibly disingenuous
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>>86441727
>how they dressed is irrelevant,
lol it's not when that fat retard is literally dressed as an Confederate, 2 days after a white nationalist rammed his car into a crowd of people.

That's like if the KKK bombed an abortion clinic and I showed up the next day dressed as an aborted dumpster baby.
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>>86441777
>rhinos
What do you mean by this? In what way are they not Republican?
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>>86441658
So where's the dead girl? She one of the people who jumped on his car like an idiot?
Why do we have to pretend to feel bad for every college yuppie who gets themselves killed because they never left their safe space before?
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>>86441914
>literally dressed as an Confederate
They Confederacy lost. Theirs is the uniform of losers. There's nothing peculiar about a loser wearing a loser's uniform.
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>>86441931
They're part of the GOP and run their campaigns on the Republican platform, but don't actually work on any of the things they say they will. They immediately become a part of the neo-con/neo-lib establishment aka deep state
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>>86442012
>Why do we have to pretend to feel bad
Because most people have basic empathy and think murdering people by ramming your car into crowds is wrong?
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>>86442063
>don't actually work on any of the things they say they will
What have they said they would work on and didn't work on?
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>>86442012

I don't know, is human decency a foreign concept to you? The asshole rammed his car into another one, ran over a woman that ended up killing her and injured several other people, and atop of that, he then fled the scene. How are you not suppose to feel bad for the people injured?
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>>86441914
>being this disingenuous
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>>86442078
I didn't know here, I'd never probably even meet her. If I didn't hear about this story I would have gone my entire life not knowing of this girls existance. But now because she and a bunch of other retards wanted to LARP and pretend to play WW2 on the streets she got ran over when a mob started to attack a car.
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Am I the only one that recalls the memes we had insulting the alt-right back in at least 2015? I very clearly recall the term "alt-right" being a well known phrase on here with /pol/ calling themselves it. Why is everyone pretending like Hillary invented this?
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>>86442392
Because it was co-opted by white supremacists who felt like they were in good company with the ironic shitposters on /pol/

Altright originally just meant a right-leaning person who was against the typical Republican/"conservacuck" establishment

inb4 someone repeats the lie that richard spencer coined the term
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>>86442320
same way I don't feel bad for the thousands of people niggers hurt everyday
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>>86442333
Indulge me, how was that "disingenuous?"
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>>86442573
You know the real reason he was there dressed like that but you are pretending not to.
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>>86442373
Except, (as it has probably been explained to you) none of it happened like that.
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I can bet you that there will be at least 5 murders/assaults tonight in my metro area, and probably one of those involving a vehicle.
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>>86442676
Silly anon, recurring crimes aren't an issue! Freak incidents like this are the important issues we need to resolve.
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>>86436913
Oh no they're onto us!
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>>86442616
Right, the real reason he was there was to start up shit. Either that, or he was legitimately autistic enough to think doing that was going to be fine...
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>>86442788
He was there to stand up against people trying to tear down statues of confederates. He was standing up for his ancestors who fought in the civil war.
See
>>86437477
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>>86442619
Retard Group A shows up to have a legal protest.
Retard Group B shows up to disrupt legal protest.
Retard Group A & B yell and scream and threaten each other and throw shit (literally) at each other
Retard from Retard Group A drives into Retard Group B - instead of moving out of the way Retard Group B stays true to their name and begins to surround the car and (suprise suprise) the driver freaks out and plows through even more retards.

Seems pretty simple to understand to me. The only people that were hurt/killed were dumb redditors looking to earn street cred by protesting le ebil nazis who don't even have any political power or seats in congress/house/senate

It's a shit-show meant for entertainment to drive media ratings and the family has already said they don't want their daughter turned into a martyr for left-wing extremists.
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>>86437477
Have we identified that cunt at the end yet?
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>>86442878
Except you are missing how the road that Retard Group B was on was closed off.

Expect you fail to mention how Retard Group A was filled with white nationalists and literal Nazis.

Except you are completely wrong about the driver being some dindu faggot who was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

But keep on repeating that /pol/ meme that he was some innocent driver ganged up by ANTIFA and accidently plowed through people because he was spooked.
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>>86437394
>the left actually believes this revisionist drivel
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>>86442878
>and begins to surround the car and (suprise suprise) the driver freaks out and plows through even more retards.
You cunts are just going to double down on this meme, huh?
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>>86442963
>Expect you fail to mention how Retard Group A was filled with white nationalists and literal Nazis.
And Retard Group B is filled with literal marxists and commies. What's your point?
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>>86438714
Find out who she is
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>>86439604
Kek
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>>86443027
I'm not brainwashed, so I don't care if some teenagers call themselves "marxists" or commies. There is a literal difference between a Nazi and some literal who "marxist".

Red Scare was before you were born, kiddo. It hardly even applies to our world now.
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>>86442963
ANTIFA didn't have a permit to demonstrate and couldn't close the road, only the police can do that, and yet I don't see a single police car anywhere, do you?

And you're a fucking idiot because I never said he was some innocent driver he was a fucking retarded racist trying to intimidate the other politically-charged faggots standing in the road. Both sides came looking for a fight and that's what they got.
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>>86442723
>Freak incidents
That's a funny way to say "terrorist attacks".
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>>86443114
You're not brainwashed yet you don't remember how ugly communism was and how many millions died as a direct result of it? You forget that more people died from communism than fascism? Nope, you are a brainwashed moron probably brainwashed by your professor in uni.
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>>86443137
>HUR DURRR DA BOTH SIDES HERE
>THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT THAT MAKES IT OKAY
how is that even remotely an argument? You were flatout wrong that people were banging on his car BEFORE he rammed into a crowd. Why can't you wrap your goofy fucking brain around that? People attacked his car after he ran a person over. I don't give a shit if they had a permit or not, police officially made a statement saying the end of that road they were on was closed for their protection.

Murder is never justified. I don't care how much you think they "deserved" it.
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>>86443186
Good thing communism is dead.
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>>86443180
Call it whatever you want the point is it is a rare occurrence and there are other more pressing concerns.
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>>86443272
Okay, if it were a Muslim behind the wheel would you be pressing the more pressing concerns?
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>>86443247
It's as alive today as fascism is, actually more-so.
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>>86443114
A literal who nazi and a literal who marxist are both at the same level
Edgy, usually uneducated, losers in their personal life so they have to cling to a political ideology that makes them feel powerful.
But in public school you're only taught about the atrocities of the National Socialists, never about communist pograms and ethnic cleansing, so its understandable why you think a inbred neckbeard larping as a Nazi to feel cool is more dangerous than someone who dresses in all black and throws glass bottles at crowds of people cuz "muh nazis!!"
Why is it so hard for you people to realize they're both the same?
>Kiddo
back to red dit you go
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>>86443315
>if I something is true, I won't look like an idiot
Damn, it didn't work this time. Try it again.
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>>86443312
Yes because muslims do this shit more frequently at least in other countries, less so in America I admit.
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>>86443186
We've heard these arguments a thousand times, it's the same /pol/ memes every hour of every fucking day.

An economic theory didn't kill those millions of people, far-left Statism and authoritarianism did.You can make a shit argument the same way about capitalism, when capitalism is just an economic system...it's not a belief structure.

Much of the "Red Scare" was a paranoid schizo meme here in the States but because we are so poorly educated and drugged to fucking hell, your Dad was a low IQ faggot who fell for his own Dad's memes. Underage teenagers who cry about communist boogeywoogeys in 2017 need to be reminded of the hundreds of falsely jailed "communist" agents that were exonerated when the government admitted to their whoopsie poopsie mistake.
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>>86443351
What the fuck does that even mean? Are you retarded?
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>>86443388
>c-communism isn't evil or authoritarian by nature even though all of the self proclaimed communists at these rallies are edgy and violent thugs
You must be someone on the left who won't admit your side has problems. You just want to hate the right and praise the left because you turn a blind eye to your own faults. You are the one who has a lot of growing up and learning to do.
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>>86439279
based badguy from avatar plays the best jackson i've ever seen.

i own the original and the extended copy.
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>>86443315
When alt-right retards start calling Google--the most valuable company in the world--communist, it's pretty safe to say the word has lost all fucking meaning.
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>>86443272
White extremist right wingers commit way more attacks in the US than radical Muslims. And the government has been ignoring it for years, even under Obama, and now Trump is actually defunding the few government programs that existed to combat it.
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>>86443234
Wow, there's nothing better to stop two violent groups of crazies out in the street from attacking each other than issuing an official statement! And I don't give a fuck if ANTIFA had a permit or not either but its just a fact, and doesn't make me a supporter of the Alt-Right, I know that takes a little bit of thinking outside the box and doesn't really conform to your black and white view of the situation.

Police were ordered to stand down, which is why the perp was able to flee the scene in the first place.

The police chief and mayor should both be investigated for criminal negligence by knowingly putting that girl and all those other people in harm's way.
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>>86443496
None of this was an argument, I'm just explaining to you what communism is and what it isn't. It's not your magical go-to villain of the year, faggot. There are barely any functioning communist countries left on the entire planet and the biggest one is loosely a mixed market economy.

It's a fucking /pol/ boogeyman because you want to falsely equate everyone as the "same" type of retarded.
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>>86443550
How does any of this change what I've said?
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>>86443566
>muh arguments
This isn't debate club faggot, nobody is keeping score
And all you seem to do is counter-point, I've yet to see you actually put forth an argument of your own
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>>86443545
>Google--the most valuable company in the world
Are you baiting right now? This has to be the dumbest opinion I have ever heard in my life.

>>86443549
Wasn't talking about muslim attacks dumbass.

>>86443566
I could say the same fucking thing about fascism. You only think fascism is a bigger concern because you spend all this fucking time on twitter and facebook consuming heavily biased media believing their bullshit. I admit fascists are around as much as communists but open your fucking eyes and realize that they are both authoritarian and both horrible sides. I also think communism and fascism essentially go hand in hand, if you bring one into the limelight the other will follow. Communism and fascism have lead to the bloodiest conflicts and the most horrible regimes humanity has ever seen and brainwashed retard millennials think bringing them back will be a good idea don't make me fucking laugh.
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>>86443664
>wahhh don't debate!
>n-n-n-no you! ;)
I'm done here.
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>>86443644
You tell me, retard, you're the one twisting my words. When did I ever say the girl deserved to die? When did I ever say the driver was in the right? All I've said from the beginning was that both sides were a bunch of idiots who literally came looking for a fight (otherwise why would they wear helmets, masks, gloves, shields, sticks, etc?)
You're the one who got so buttflustered over me calling out ANTIFA because you cannot accept the fact that both sides are equally guilty in ramping up the political violence. It's all protests and then counter-protest, the cycle continues forever, just like gang warfare.
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>>86443719
>opinion
What opinion? Google has more cash on hand and in stocks than any company in the world right now. When did basic arithmetic become a matter of opin--
>he's a right wing retard, logic is useless here
Never mind, praise kek, amirite?
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>>86443724
>I'm done here.
We both know that's not true ;)

also

Not an argument.
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>>86443859
Well I was going to apologize for misunderstanding your post but the fact you think it's right wing to hate fascism and communism is pretty astonishing, you really are retarded.
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>>86443719
I don't think you know who you are talking to anymore, I don't support either communism of fascism. I'm just explaining how they are literally two different things that function differently.
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>>86443388
You sound like one of those losers who argue there was never any real communism because that would require a worldwide communist economy.
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>>86443859
What a pitiful post, just awful.
Please return to your native subreddit.
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>>86443903
Well I didn't need that explanation at all? I said both sides are thugs not that they are literally the same.
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>>86443804
>you cannot accept the fact that both sides are equally guilty in ramping up the political violence.
No, I don't accept that when we are talking about someone ramming their cars into crowds...
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>>86439489
You get to see Jewel's tit in it too.
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>>86443719
"Communism" and socialism always meant worker owned economies and pure democracy. What Lenin, Stalin and the like created were authoritarian states that they called "State Capitalism" because that's essentially what it was-a harsh and controlling form of the heavily subsidized protective tariffed pseudo-capitalist economies we have in the West. Real socialism is anarchism, which has never been implemented in any significant large scale, but there are studies on worker owned cooperatives and the like by respected economists that show much promise. Pure free market capitalism (as opposed to the heavily state-intervened Western economies) has failed objectively worse on every metric than even the worst of the worst "Communist" countries. India alone lost over 100 million people in deaths from malnutrition, starvation, and poverty from 1917-1977-higher than the entirety of those killed by "Communism"
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>>86443964
Yes I'm familiar with the definition of communism. However, despite what you describe it as the people who espouse your cause are all that really matter and the people who espouse communism are all very authoritarian in nature. Very very very few aren't and most of those people are nothing but idealists. What you are saying is like saying feminism is just about equality for women when it's pretty fucking obvious there is a whole package that comes with being a feminist that goes beyond equality.
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