Netflix on course to lose over 50% of stock price; customers

Fucking hell, that's damning

>>86268202
What's worse though is that Netflix customers will pay it. They're an odd breed, happy to suffer severe cuts in the catalog and then paying more for the '''''''''''''''''''''''privilege'''''''''''''''''''''''.

>>86268202
Cringe

Pay 200 for one cable box and multiple channels?
Or pay 20 streaming services $10 each month?

When will we get a Netkino streaming service?

>>86268254
What? Are you a Netflix subscriber?
It looks really bad when they only have 1 owned show that's any good

>>86268273
How about I pay nothing and still get to watch everything I want?

The best streaming service right now is probably Hulu. A few years ago, it would've been madness to say that.

>>86268348
Oh god the fucking cringe

>>86268348
He just really really likes Netflix.

>>86268158
Is The Witcher an owned show?

>>86268593

No, it's another Netflix 'Original' which is produced by Sean Daniel Company.

>>86268158
lmao
>company that lives on the borrowed money of millenials is itself taking on massive debts

>>86268158

No wonder they're so fucking desperate to have hits of their own.

>>86268273
This.
It'll be just cable all over again

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>>86268273
I'll just keep pirating everything.

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>mfw people don't torrent.

>>86268158
Honestly most people I know who subscribe to Netflix would probably keep their subscription even if prices went up by several dollars a month.

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>its long-term debt stands at $4.8 billion

>>86268400
>watching ads with a subscription streaming service
Fuck that.

glad i unsubbed due to the dear white people shit

fuck netflix, and fuck the cancer that supports it. its such a liberal shitshow, enjoy it while it lasts capitalism prevails yet again

>>86268158

>Guys, cable died because no one wants to pay $180 a month for access to their shows
>Quick, make 18 streaming services for $9.99 a month!

It's like they want everyone to go back to pirating.

>>86270112
>glad i unsubbed due to the dear white people shit

Because you're an impotent alt-right protester retard who doesn't even know what he's protesting?

86270201
weak bit if I'm being honest

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>netflix

LMAO

>>86270174
That is exactly what is going to happen.

>>86270201
why do libtards need to invent fake political parties to explain away their failures?

Netflix went too far up their own ass with the original shows and forgot why people like Netflix to begin with.

Back in like 2013 Netflix had about 9000 titles (movies and TV shows). Now they're down to about 5000. They've been spending huge amounts on original programming, and as a result letting their overall catalogue collapse.

People like Netflix because it lets them watch a wide variety of movies and TV shows. People like binging TV shows and exploring new movies. Adding 30-some original shows at the cost of scrapping 4000 titles overall doesn't benefit Netflix, especially when most of their original shows aren't that good.

Now they're strapped with debt and there's nothing good to watch on Netflix that I haven't already seen.

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>>86270276
>he doesn't use deluge

>>86268158
Where does this day they're charging more?

If Netflix goes up even 1 dollars, I'm out. I rarely watch shit on TV anyway, and Netflix's inventory has been going to shit very quickly over the past couple of years. Their original shit is the worst.

>>86270460
This. The content is shit for the price I pay right now.

>>86270460
Yeah this. I'm literally only it at the moment because it has really good foreign subtitles that are great if you're learning a language. So I can vegetate all day watching Star Trek and still learn something. But to be honest once I'm done with my backlog I'm out.

>>86270420
i used to but the little piece of shit started downloading really slowly one day suddenly and i just went back to 2.2.1

>>86270112
ya know it actually critiqued black culture

so uh....good job

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>>86268273

>>86270201
This but unironically

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Because as long as Stranger Things is only available through Netflix, I will be a loyal customer.

>>86270420
>not transmission

>vpn $8 a month
>netflix $10+ a month

Cancelling after Defenders.

netflix has been shit for years
there is a reason why "netflix and chill" became a thing because there is nothing to watch so people fuck

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>>86268158

>>86270674
it didnt really have that affect
i heard some dumb college broad saying
"omg i love that show! like come on white people!!! for real!!!"

I just pirate their good shows.

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PAY

>>86268158

This reminds me of all the subscriptions I need to cancel (including Netflix)

I have to get rid of Sirius too since Howard Stern is fucking awful now, he just interviews useless celebrities all day

is Amazon Prime a kino streaming service?

>>86271087
No it's shit.
Real patricians watch Crackle.

>>86271087
Amazon prime has ads now. At least on some of its shows. Tried watching one of their originals and had to watch an ad at the start of each episode

>>86268158
>inb4 witcher is scratched

>>86271370
kill yourself and stop shitting up this thread. If you don't, i'll track you down and shit in your mouth.

>>86270674
>>86270965
>>86270768
>le 2deep4u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrsbjlRHrM

this 2deep4me as well?

and the part where the show creators go on racist tirades about white people on twitter, is that just 2deep4me to understand? its all above my head when they write out "FUCK WHITE PEOPLE" in all caps? man. you must be so enlightened , explain to me how its impossible to be racist to whites, i really would love to hear you redefine words and attempt to normalize blatantly racist shit. its great.

>>86271399
Prove me wrong, negroid.

>>86268344
criterion collection streaming plz

>>86268273

It's a pirate's life for me

>>86270965
>>86271402
did you even read my post?

>>86270372
>people like what my personal opinion is
>netflix is going to go out of business because i sat on my ass and watched thousands of movies and shows

great post, i love this forum

>>86270902
Defenders is apparently dogshit.

Only 8 episodes but the "heroes" join forces in episode 4. Short amount of episodes yet the "plot" moves at a snail's pace as if this was a CW show with 23 episodes to fill and not the payoff to 50+ hours.

>>86270174
>2007 wahhhh why can't I just pay for the channels I want?
>2017 wahhhh there's too many choices why isn't there just one service?

>>86268158

the better question would be why are you still a netflix shareholder?

like i give a shit about their debt or the stock price. i just want to watch the shit they have there and it's cheap as fuck. i mean i don't even pay for it my parents do and i just log in and watch it whenever i want.

>>86268202
>>86268254
>>86271370
I don't have an image for derailment on my phone.

>>86268158
>Why are you still a Netflix customer?
Biggest selection, simple as that.

>>86271967
fucking phoneposter
get out. now.

>>86272013
Okay.

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I have netflix out of convenience. Its like $8 a month, and thats nothing.

If I want to watch something that isnt on there I just go find it on some free streaming site in 1080p, or find a torrent.

People bitch about how netlifx is shitty, but I like being able to just go lay on the couch and watch some TNG any time I want.

Netflix disrupted cable and things are getting into balance again as the networks want a piece of the pie and remove their content and make their own streaming platforms.

>>86271008
Amazing that we don't have to pay for MrEnter or Chris Chan but this neurotypical faggot has his head up his own ass. Neurotypicals are inferior.

>>86270372
They started doing their own shows because the the content owners removed their stuff from Netflix

>>86270112
Are you mad white guy?

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>have good idea and implement it right
>it is a success, your company is now rich
>instead of paying stock holders go all in on another idea that's expensive, old and dumb (making shitty tv shows)
>stock plummets
CEOs were a mistake

>>86268158
Narcos is on season 3 though

>>86272379
>not taking risks
Coward faggot

>paywall

Hey Op you fucking faggot how about you paste the whole fucking article you cunt what the fuck is your problem you bitch ass nigger FUCK

>>86272463
>taking risks with other people's money
Can't even blame that Peter Hastings, the owners were all a bunch of Beta fags for letting such a profitable company go into stupid ventures instead of paying a dividend. Now no one wants their stupid stock.
May it rest in piss.

>>86270076
It's only $9 a month. It's at least helping keeping its content unlike Netflix.

>>86271527
this exists, you just don't want to pay for it

>>86268158
Better make more shows about how evil white people are.

How much money did Netflix spend on things like Dear White People?

It would be funny if Netflix didn't then try to gouge their customers out of more money just to pay for things like that which openly hold them in contempt.

>>86268400
amazing what having a wide variety of programing instead of a narrow focus will do

>>86272270
no they started doing their own shows because they refused to pay for anything else so those owners went to streaming services that would

>>86268158
>but then, when Netflix was founded 20 years ago this month, it was far from a threat to Blockbuster.

Netflix was founded 20 years ago? What was their business model back then? I don't remember anyone streaming movies and tv shows on their 56k modems.

>>86273335
Originally they shipped DVDs to your house through snail mail

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>>86273335
>underage kiddies don't even know where Netflix comes from

>>86271527
It's called Filmstruck

What's really bad about Netflix is that your spammed with absolute dogshit while actual good content is surpressed. And then it gets taken off.


Is Sling TV any good?

>>86268158
I'll continue to pay it if only for Miraculous and various CW shows.

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>>86268158
>Netflix was founded 20 years ago this month

>>86273426
Please enlighten me, I thought Netflix showed up sometime around 2010

>>86273335
Dude this was beautiful bait very subtle

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>>86273700

>>86273700
well you're wrong
stop acting retarded

>mfw my mom has cable, netflix, some other service
>mfw she's spending way too much money in this shit
>mfw she doesn't listen to me when I say it's a waste of money
>mfw no face

Pirating is the way to go now, who knows about the future

>>86273369
I remember when Blockbuster came out with their own dvd mailing service to compete back when netflix first started getting big and it was better than netflix for a short while.

>>86273034
>Dear White People please pay for our bankruptcy

>>86273812
Wonder if we would've been better off with Blockbuster instead of cuckflix

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>>86273700

This must be a troll. Just google Netflix and read the wiki article

>>86273769
For all the benefits that await us when all the boomers die off the one thing I fear is that studios might not be able to produce content once the elderly are too dead to prop up their shitty broken business model with mass subscriptions

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>>86268158
>But its long-term debt stands at $4.8 billion.
DIE YOU WORTHLESS SHIT DIE DIE

>>86268344

Mubi

>>86273887
>actually fears the death of Hollywood Studios
wew

>>86268158
>muh disney
pretty sure netflix will win this war.

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>>86268158
>mfw invested in netflix stock just so I could burn it

Fuck netflix, and fuck normies.

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>>86268158
It doesn't fucking matter because NOBODY wants to subscribe to more shit. Having to subscribe to sixteen different content providers just to get your shit will just force people to go back to piracy or use services that are bundled in with other things like Amazon Prime which leaves content providers to deal with another bigass monolith that won't pay their prices.

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>>86268158
I cancelled a while ago when their anti-white agenda was revealed

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>>86268344
>When will we get a Netkino streaming service?
We got it about a year ago and it's been wonderful. This and TCM are the only streaming services cinema fans need.

>>86268158
calling it now, they will go back to disc media

>>86271207
jesus

>>86268273
I'd still rather pay for 3-4 streaming services of curated content than a $200 cable package, half of the shit in which I would never want to watch.
Or I can just pirate everything for free

>>86270372
>Netflix buys up streaming rights for next to nothing
>makes lots of money
>all the rights holders realise that they could be making MORE money by providing their own streaming service
>Netflix turns to original programming because that's all they'll have left in 5 years
It was a good idea that couldn't possibly last.

>>86268158
I guess "Dear White People" wasn't such a great idea after all.

>>86271008
I actually like Boogie, but holy fuck this is retarded

>>86273700
Dude are you 10?

Every single Netflix original is fucking trash. No wonder they're tanking.

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>>86268158
>Why are you still a Netflix customer?
Because Ozark and Gypsy are 9/10 shows. Just a shame the critics are such fucking dickheads that they cannot know what's really good.

Looks like we may never see a show again like Gypsy and will instead be flooded with more capeshit...

But I choose to continue with Netflix in hope another show like this may show up again

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>>86274395
>A show that stars an all white cast alongside 1 black female that's main goal is to fuck a white guy while his husband is busy fucking some attractive English girl
Yeah no reason this show got bad reviews

>>86268158
Surely doubling down on SJW shows will benefit them

>>86274468
>while his husband
I mean his wife

>>86272609
For most web companies it's innovate or die.
Some make good decisions (Amazon, Apple), others do not (Snapchat, Netflix)

I've been thinking of cancelling for a while. We've have a streaming service by HBO here in Europe, costs 8€ and has all the shows I want for now. All the Netflix originals have been pretty uninteresting to me.

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>DUDE, IT'S SUPER HEROES TEAM UP TO TRY AND SAVE NEW YORK
I fucking hate stuff like this that's been done so many times that it is getting on my nerves.

At least Suicide Squad was about villains having to work together otherwise I just cannot stand capeshit that has become so generic.

YOU ARE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU LIKE TO WATCH THIS

>>86274323
https://twitter.com/boogie2988/status/862125275831828480?lang=en

They are upping the $$$ to 14 a month for multiple screens in canada already

>>86268158
Cute froggo

>>86271674

But that's not the problem being solved. Cable at least categorized by genre per channel typically. If I wanted a Sci-fi channel the problem was I'd likely get locked into a high price base package then have to pay even more for that channel.

With the streaming alternative, I can't buy a "Sci-fi streaming service". If I love Sci-fi I have to subscribe to Netflix, Disney, Hulu, HBO, etc, etc to get all the sci-fi shows being made.

NOTHING was fixed, at least when Netflix ruled the roost they got the majority of a genres releases so that one service was enough and offset cable nicely.

>>86268158
Why do normies act like Netflix is the best thing since sliced bread? Most of the original shows are terrible and the movies are even worse.

>>86274567
>not wanting to see luke blacking all of them

>>86272440
Read it again, brainlet.

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>>86274307
>curated

>>86270112
Capitalism will be entirely phased out within our lifetimes. It's not sustainable anymore.

>>86274741
Yeah not talking about Netflix obviously, something like what Critereon has

>>86272515
Since you're too dumb to find a way around it
http://archive.is/hTYQX

>>86274061
This disgusting foot fetishist is right. The huge monoliths will end up having gigantic streaming services, with Disney/ESPN and Amazon and Hulu and that's about it. Depressing.

>>86270831
Damn He could be a model

>>86274839

The full article is really interesting and goes into great deal about how Netflix is hemorrhaging money. The bit about Bloodline is telling.

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>>86268158
But i'm not.

As a german the library is very, very limited to begin with, due to licensing, and since theres many more established streaming services in germany they and netflix constantly buy up each others exclusive streaming rights. For example: House of Cards existed before Netflix came to germany, Sky (streaming service) bought 6 months exclusive streaming rights for House of cards before then, so you can't actually watch house of cards, a netflix series ON netflix here until 6 months after season release.

Another thing is that there's pretty much no good movies left and the only things you can watch are the equivalent of fucking weeb shovel ware in the gaming medium.

Netflix is shit.
Oh yeah, i forgot to mention the mass produced Netflix originals that have truly become quantity over quality.

Cannibalism. When Netflix came out it was a singular place you could go for just about any movie. When it went digital it still had a pretty impressive library for streaming and lots of well-known shows and big movies. Then a million streaming services pop up, exclusive rights becoming a thing, streaming becomes fragmented and the sole appeal of the format evaporates.

HBO wants its own streaming service. Disney wants its own streaming service. Prime's selection is worse than Netflix, Hulu has ads on top of its microscopic library, and all Netflix has left after its 'original content' gambit is a bunch of knock-off "originals", foreign films no one has ever heard of (often for good reason), B-grades, and fucking anime.

Shows and movies are all strewn across separate services. No one wants to pay a monthly sub one show they like to keep up with or one movie they want to see. The result? Congratulations, you've made piracy the new 2014-era Netflix. It's the only forum that has all your favorites in your place.

They fucked themselves.

because they produce superior shows and i support them for that

>>86270201
Triggered liberal. Watch out!

Why the fuck should I care what their stock it worth?

>>86270902
>thinking that a vpn keeps you anonymous.

>>86271008
Boogie is probably the biggest loser on the planet. He is intelligent yet still behaves like a spoiled self-gratify infant. Sickening fuck.

>>86271087
Eh. Depends if you order a lot of shit from them, then the 2 day deal makes up for it. The service is okay, especially if you like b-type movies, etc.

>>86268158
>tfw I owned 8 grands worth of netflix when it was at 100 last years
>tfw the price of the stock has almost doubled since then

>>86268158
It's odd to think that we're going to end up with a load of smaller specialist stream providers like Disney rather than aggregators. Who would pay for an exclusively Disney/Pixar service? They only produce so many movies a year.

>>86274112
Yeah, leftist are fucking cucks.

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Are those industry faggots fucking serious. As we as paying more we're also gonna have to pay for more streaming services?
Back to pirating I go then

>>86268273
Downloads and illegal streams, definitely. I watch college football, and if I wanted to watch all the games I watch legally, I'd have to subscribe to a whole load of division streams (and in some cases, university streams). It'd cost me over 1000 a year for a season that is a few months long.

I don't know what the people making these calls are smoking, but honestly - if they managed to kill off streams, I wouldn't pay 1000, I'd just stop watching. The good folks at Disney and Netflix may soon find I'm not alone in that attitude.

>>86275612
Since Disney owns all the content they'll be providing, they can charge much less not that they willand still make a lot of profit.

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>>86268158
I pay 45 for 6 months of a streaming service that houses mostly everything under one roof.
Netflix needs a GOT or breaking bad show. they need to have better filters on quality control. All those awful new stands up are killing me.

>>86270201
>boogeyman posting

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I envy murricans and their extensive Netflix library, yuropoor gets maybe 1/100th of the catalog on offer.

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Netflix then:
>You enjoyed that? Maybe we could recommend you watch other movies or TV shows from the same writer, same director, featuring the same actors, or just with similar themes or genres!

Netflix now:
>You enjoyed that? Maybe we could recommend you watch House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt or Daredevil!

Has anyone else noticed this change or am I crazy? I feel like they had a very robust algorithm a few years ago and they just trashed it.

>>86275971
It never worked in the UK, because there's about 12 movies here.

Fuck those greedy (((Disney))) kikes

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JUST

>>86275877
>they need to have better filters on quality control. All those awful new stands up are killing me.

People praise Netflix for funding every script that comes their way, they think it's courageous and sets a standard for the entire industry.
Now that competition is getting stronger, they'll have to restrict what gets funded thus becoming just like any other media company.

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>>86276161
You mean "they greenlit every script brought to them that involved darkies"

I mean for fuck's sake they spent $120 million on this

One Hundred Twenty Million Dollars

My country's netflix has gone pretty shit in one year. Feels like it's 70% indie documentaries now.

>>86275612

Literally anyone with kids

>>86268158
>one more streaming service

exactly what the world needed!

no seriously why are paying customers being fucked over so hard?
is there any reason not to pirate anymore?

>>86274338
No I'm just terribly misinformed and was a sheltered kid. I barely even went to blockbuster as a kid, no way would I know of anything else. Until McDonalds started putting N64s in their locations I didn't even know what Nintendo was.

>>86276220
This series was crap. It was greenlit because it had Baz Luhrmann pushing it. Sorry but the white Australian known for things like Strictly Ballroom, Moulin Rouge, and Romeo & Juliet was the wrong person to make this story.

I guess we need more Amy Schumer shows!

>>86270965
I assume you think the Boondock's is SJW garbage as well?

>>86276375
And $120 million for "nobody actors dance: the series"

You dumbasses. Debt is good.

The more debt you have, the better.

>>86276470
I rushed to change the channel every time Family Guy ended and I heard I AM THE STONE

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>>86276529
>>86276470
WE

>>86276518

>he is the CEO of a company without being its owner, and is obliged to maximize short-term profit in order to please the ownership/shareholders

>he negotiates loans with his own cosmopolitan brethren and so he develops a more positive attitude toward the concept of debt in general

I pity you, Ira.

>>86276161
I heard that pitching to them now is like pitching to a network now.

>>86276518
debt is only okay/possibly good if your company is stable

a company whose market share is steadily decreasing should definitely not take on debt

>>86274144
How is Filmstruck's compression quality? Every time I've seen Netflix their video quality is fucking unwatchable, full of artifacts, banding, crushed blacks, etc

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>>86276220
>$120 million

What? How is that possible when the first season of Marco Polo cost them 90 million? They must have wasted 80% of the money, holy shit.

I would actually be interested in a list of all of Netflix failure, it will paint a clear picture of where they went wrong.

>>86276936
I would assume they just got robbed like the US Department of Defense with its $900 hammers and $1500 toilet seats

amazon prime is unironically superior at this point

>>86276730
>a company whose market share is steadily decreasing should definitely not take on debt
A company whose market share is steadily decreasing might as well take on debt as long as it fuels a plan for recovery. That said, the people buying that debt may not be the brightest bulbs in the package.

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>>86270850
>not rtorrent

>Content owners demand more for their content
>Netflix chooses to invest in their own programs instead
>It doesn't work

>>86276982
>DOD
>Robbed
DOD contracts are welfare for rich white dudes.

>>86276985
Yeah Amazon prime is pretty ok these days

>>86274061
>I recognise that picture

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Can this show alone save Netflix from crumbling?

>>86275971
Oh they've absolutely made this change. I understand why they did it. They spent so much damn money on their own shows they need to promote them at every opportunity they have. But I miss when Netflix recommendations were actually good movies/shows based on your own taste.

>>86273824
underrated kek

>>86273824

Lel

>>86276051
But why though? Do they have to pay for the rights each year and just said, fuck it, we're gonna fund our own shit instead?

>>86277384
You nailed it.

>>86277141
The vast majority of Netflix catalogue is pure garbage, including alot of its original series. I can ignore 10 bucks a month, but anymore and people will start to pay attention.

Why don't studios have there own netflix services with their movies on them btw???

>>86277487
Agree with this - it's not like Netflix is expensive, but if there's literally nothing worth watching there's no point in paying for it.

>>86277487
Because people binge watch and you need a vast catalog of content for it to be worth it