Power ranking Top 5 Game of Thrones. Current events, old people

>>86266820
3 of those are dead though

>>86266980
What is jon's level? Like, is he as good as two hands Jamie? Maybe at bronn's level? Never really managed to figure it out

>>86266980
Well you get what I meant, from got season 1 tv show.

>>86267335
The actor is supposed to be the best swordsman (in terms of choreography) by far but they're rarely let him show it. I say if you have that asset then you might as well use it. Make him a fucking baron with the blade.

>No Ser Barristan
D&D really fucked that one up, as usual

>>86266820
brenne beat Jamie and the hound you sexist fucking shit

>>86267335

Not that high. Its implied in Dance With Dragons that Jon is only as good as he is because of Longclaw. When he duels Mance with a normal sword he gets rekt and runs out of breath.

>>86266820
>both clegane brothers were soundly beaten
>somehow still 2nd best fighters in westeros

Do spears count? Oberyn was top tier.

>>86266820
drogo died from a little prick hes a pussy

>>86266820
>Barristan
>Jaime Two Hands
>Oberyn
>The Mountain
>The Brienne

>>86267476
Barristan is old like Robert

>>86266820
Brianne beat the Hound. She should be number 1, arguably number one. Arya is an equal match for Brianne, she is definitely better than Loras.

>>86267526
Clegane was hurt during the fight with Brienne

>>86267662
Jaime two hands rape Brianne and Arya at the same time

>>86267507
jaime was also malnutritioned for months and tired as fuck

>>86267662
The hound was sick though, I'm not sure 100% hound loses to 100% Brienne

>>86266820
Considering Jaime no longer has two hands and Loras and Drogo are dead, I'm assuming we're talking best swordfighters as of season 1. I'd probably go something like:
1. Jaime
2. Drogo
3. Eddard
4. Hound
5. Barristan

You said "no old people" which I guess could be Eddard and Barristan but I'm assuming you made that rule because the old people wouldn't be able to realistically compete, and those two absolutely can.

>Top Tier
Barristan, Jaime Two Hands, Oberyn
>2nd Tier
The Mountain,
>3rd Tier
Brienne, Hound, Bronn, Daario
>4th Tier
Jaime One Hand

>>86267966
>the old people wouldn't be able to realistically compete,
Since he mentioned Robert I think he meant the older characters who are so obviously past their prime.
Bobbie B was a beast, but in season 1 he was just fat.

>>86267335
Jon couldn't even beat the Fookin Legend of Gin alley

>>86267507
>showfags

>>86268080
yalearntofightinacastle

>>86268070
Yeah, that's how I interpreted it as well, so I stuck Barristan in there.

>>86267726
>rape
Misogynist
>>86267831
You are just scared of strong women.

>>86266820

>bronn on the list
>jaime above the mountain that rides, who is dead
>drogo is dead
>loras is dead, and a shitty court knight

This list is retarded, and frankly, in terms of show plot armor, Jon Snow, Arya, and Brienne literally cannot be defeated.

>>86266820

0. (Faceless) Arya Stark

0.1. (Faceless) Jaqen H'gar

1. Arthur Dayne

2. Barristan Selmy

3. Jaime Lannister

4. (Azor) Jon Snow

5. Sandor Clegane

6. Brienne

7. Oberyn Martell

8. Loras Tyrell

9. Gregor Clegane

10. Robert Baratheon

11. Eddard Stark

>>86268170
Bronn would be in between Brienne and Sandor btw

>>86267966
Ned Stark is described as an average swordsman in the books, the show gives him a massive upgrade.

Jaime is basically the strongest fighter in Westeros before he gets his hand chopped off.

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The braindead Giant > everybody else

In AFFC, Brienne reflects on her fight against Jaime, and notes that, even chained at the wrists, underfed and after sitting in a darkened cell for a year straight, it took everything she had to keep him at bay. Her exact thought is "with both hands, and at full strength, no knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have withstood him." She ended up bowling him over and holding his head under a stream to beat him, before they were captured by the Bloody Mummers.

>>86267507
She beat two men who were in no fit state for combat. Prime Hound and Jaime would put her in the ground.

>>86268208
>Ned Stark is described as an average swordsman in the books
uh... source? I've only read most of them once but I did read the second one twice and I was always under the impression that he was regarded as being excellent. Doesn't everyone believe he took on Dayne and won? Or maybe I am getting my book/tv wires crossed...

>>86268208
>>86268382
Besides I mean, I did specify that I was going off S1 of the TV show, and OP also said here >>86267362 that that's what he was doing as well.

>>86266820
People still alive as of now Edition

1) Zombie Mountain (stronger than before and seemingly unkillable)
2) Brienne and Arya (fuck you D&D)
3) Hound (he has a limp now so he's less mobile)
4) Bronn (but he will probably beat people outrank him using trickery)
5) Dario (watch out for that throwing dagger)
6 Jon Snow (he losses his sword in every 1v1 fight so far)
7 Euron (steamed rolled through 2/3 sand snakes)
8 Tormund (experienced but untrained)
9 Greyworm
10 That old guy who leads the Knights of the Vale, John? Yohn?

>>86268382
Howland Reed bailed Ned out against Arthur Dayne in both so Ned is known as being better than him is he really? Nah

>>86266820

All time

1 - Oberyn Martell / Arthur Dayne
2 - Barristan, Jamie
3 - Mountain
4 - Khal Drogo
5 - The Hound / Brienne
6 - Jorah / Bronn
7 - Jon Snow / Arya Stark

>>86268454
youre thinking of Yohn Royce

>>86268521
>Oberyn better than prime Jaime and Barristan
"no"

>>86268537
yup, that's the guy

>>86268382
He's not bad, but he isn't in the same tier as Jaime/Barristan/Dayne/etc. He took on Dayne with six others and won, but no one knows the details except Howland Reed, who has yet to appear in the books.

In AFFC, Sansa recognizes Bronze Yohn at the Eyrie and remembers him coming to Winterfell and beating Ned and Rodrick at the same time.

>>86268485
I don't think we know that Howland Reed bailed out Ned in the books.
In the series we do, but we also know in the series that Jaime and Ned squared off very evenly until one of Jaime's guards intervened, and Jaime is mega-pissed at the interruption because the fight was extremely close.

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Could Bronn beat the Hound? Bronn seemed to think so.

in my headcanon Drogo can BTFO anyone but Arthur Dayne

>>86268521
>Arya in seventh
you realize they are moving towards making her the best killer in known history right

>>86268572
I'll give him a 40/60 chance
I'll give him vs Mountain 30/70 chance

>>86268485
>>86268558
Okay, that's fair, you guys have convinced me at least as far as the books go. Still think from what we saw in S1 it's fair to say that he's only just below Jaime's level in the show, though.
Whether or not that's good tv is another question altogether.

>>86266820
Who is Jaime two hands? Tell me more about this mysterious guy.

>>86268604
Arya is a joke, stop your bullshit

>>86268708
Jaime Lannister with two hands.

>>86267604
fucking this guy gets it

>>86266820
If we take the events of the show Brienne might fit in there as well, otherwise in the books she was barely able to contain a weakened and imprisoned Jaime.
However I would say that Drogo was the first in that list and Loras and Bronn not even in that top 5. But those power levels are kinda pointless.

>>86267335
He's now pretty good, I would say on par with his father who was very good.

>>86267596
Drogo died from a gypsy curse, dumbshit

>>86268875
DIfferent anon but he was going to die from his infected wound.
The gypsy was only able to turn him into a vegetable because Daenerys asked her to prevent his death from the infection.

In the books, it was the gypsy who kills him. His wound is fine but she insists on making a poultice so that it doesn't get infected, and this is how she gets him.

Can Jaime actually beat either Clegane

seems like he'd get his shit pushed in

>>86268658
They powered Ned up a bit in the show, same with Jon. In the books, neither of them are slouches, but show Jon is seemingly unbeatable, and show Ned was apparently Jaime-tier.

>>86269228
Books say Clegane brothers are among the top fighters in Westeros, but Jaime could probably beat them

>>86268332
Women are weaker than men though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EG5Nl37RsE
3 female cops got dominated

>>86269438
lmfao
>swedes

>>86269402
This. Jaime v Sandor would come down to Jaime's natural skill. Against the Mountain, I think it'd be decided by stamina.

>>86269402
How would book Jaime beat book Clegane? Book Clegane has gigantic shield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBCqAU4HB5o#t=3m59s
shield bash jaime into the ground and stab him with the great sword

Current

1. Zombie Mountain
2. Our guy Bronn
3. Brienne
4. Punished Hound
5. Euron
6. Jon
7. Arya
8. Tormund
9. Greyworm
10. Jaime

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>>86266820
DEFINITIVE ALL TIME RANKING

0) The Faceless Man, aka "No One"

EXCLUDING MAGICAL SHIT

1) Sir Arthur Dayne
2) Sir Barristan Selmy
3) Sir Jamie Lannister (w/ two hands)
4) The Smiling Knight
5) Sir Gregor Clegane "The Mountain"
6) Syrio Forell, the First Sword of Braavos
7) Sir Sandor Clegane, "The Hound"
8) Prince Oberyn Martell, "The Viper"
9) Robert I Baratheon
10) Prince Rhaegar Targaryen
11) Khal Drogo
12) Jon Snow
13) Lord Commander Jeor Mormont
14) Jorah Mormont
15) Daario Naharis
16) Lord Ned Stark
17) Lord Howland Reed
18) Lady Brienne of Tarth
19) Sir Beric Dondarrion
20) Sir Loras Tyrell, the "Knight of Flowers"

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>>86270209
>Sir

>>86270232
He was knighted by Arthur Dayne, showfag.

>>86270275
Ser mutha fucka

>>86270209
I don't think Howland reed is that great

>>86270326
Can be spelled both ways, stop getting triggered by stupid shit

>>86270209
Howland Reed only gets up that high if his opponent's back is turned.

>>86270357
>>86270426
Valid criticism, perhaps he should be lower.

>>86267627
Even old, Barry the Bold is regarded as one of the best fighters in Westeros. His claim about being able to kill everyone in the Kingsguard.

>>86268564
>I don't think we know that Howland Reed bailed out Ned in the books.
Ned is always adamant that Dayne would have killed him if it wasn't for Howland Reed. The books haven't said exactly how it happened (some people are still holding out for swamp magic), but Ned wouldn't have won without him.

>>86266820
Did Ned Stark hold his own in the fight against Jamie?

>>86270209
Jon Snow whacked a guy off a horse with a sword with such force he flew backwards and not even using a polearm to do so...

Nights King could toss a grown man 10 meters away and Jon Snow had no trouble matching him in strength

Jon Snow > Gregor Clegane in pure str

>>86266820
I would not be surprised if Jaqen Haghar had some magic bullshit that made him #1

>>86270627
Sort of, but they clashed very briefly and Jaime was playing with him (could not hurt him too badly because he needed Tyrion back)

Before that Jaime killed Ned's top bodyguard in about 5 seconds

>>86268170
>Robert Baratheon

What about peak Robert with hammer vs mountain before fighting Oberyn?

>>86266820
>loras
>top 3
What

>>86270952
That would probably be pretty close. Bobby B. was close to the Hound's height and ridiculously strong. Gregor is a lot bigger, but Bobby was skilled enough to kill Rhaegar, who was considered very good. If he managed to get in a good enough blood, he could win, but the Mountain obviously has the advantage.

>>86271167
Even Cercei is afraid that the mountain fights with Loras. Learn GoT

Game of Thrones is to Lord of the Rings what ______ is to Star Wars.

>>86271167
Book Loras is basically a less skilled young Jaime

>>86271216
Makes sense. Found this:

>When asked who would win in a duel, George R.R. Martin said that if Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy fought with equivalent weaponry it would be a very even fight - but if Dayne was armed with his sword Dawn, he would have the advantage over Selmy.

>Show
1. Arya
2. Brienne
3. Jon
4. peak Jaime
5. Euron

>Books
1. Barristan
2. peak Jaime
3. Loras
4. Oberyn
5. Sandor

>>86268564
According to Ned in the books, it took all seven of them to bring down Dayne. Only Howland and himself survived.

If we're talking books, garlan has to be top 5.

Most people list loras up there, but he's distinctly described as being a worse swordsman than garlan.

>>86271573
pretty much this. not sure about the last two for the books though. there are a lot of other big competitors like garlan, darkstar and victarion

>>86271672
In an interview, GRRM said that Loras is in the top five fighters in Westeros. When the interviewer asked "What about Garlan?" he changed his answer to Loras being in the top 6.

So, according to GRRM himself, yes.

>>86271672
>but he's distinctly described as being a worse swordsman than garlan
source? we know garlan is damn good but i don't remember anything suggesting that he is better than loras

>>86266820

1. Victarion
2. The Hound
3. Darkstar
4. Syrio Forel
5. Obara

>>86271732
I may have pulled it out of my ass, but I thought I remembered a line about how loras is the better jouster but garlan is the better swordsman. Maybe it's when he's training against 3 dudes at once?

>>86271787
>how loras is the better jouster but garlan is the better swordsman
Are you confusing that with Robb and Jon? It's definitely said that Robb is better with mace and lance whereas Jon is better with sword and bow.

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Brandon Stark. He knows everyone's dirty secrets; he is the ultimate intelligence agent.

>>86271844
Nope, I found it.


Sansa chapter in ASOS - "Is that your brother?" Sansa asked.

"It is, my lady," said Ser Loras. "Garlan often trains against three men, or even four. In battle it is seldom one against one, he says, so he likes to be prepared."

"He must be very brave."

"He is a great knight," Ser Loras replied. "A better sword than me, in truth, though I'm the better lance."

>>86271672
>>86271729
>>86271732
>>86271787
In Feast, it says that Margaery wants Garlan to represent her in trial by combat but she has to use a Kingsquard so she settles for Loras.

>>86268141
>the mountain that rides
>dead
Wew lad don't you remember he was brought back as ser Robert strong

>>86271924
>settling for the guy who unseated one of the strongest fighters in the history of westeros
Oh noooo

>>86266820
>Loras
>Better than Drogon or Bronn
fkn wot?

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>>86271872
>tfw only an autist cripple with super power can discover your subtle plans and lead to your assassination

>>86272415
>he doesn't know he used a horse in heat to throw off the mountain's horse
you're a fucking idiot pleb, kill yourself faggot

>>86272517
I do know that, all it does is show he's a smarter fighter.

>>86272533
except jousting isn't fighting you moronic cunt. and its a tournament not a fucking fight to the death

>>86266820
Hodor ( Bran ) > Arthur Dayne

learns every style/move ever existed in westeros

>>86272596
>jousting isn't fighting so he isn't a smart fighter
Hmm...

>>86266820
I know thats a lore friendly power ranking but the real raning should be something based on what we actually see in the show.
1. Bronn
2. Brienne
3. The Mountain
4. Jorah Mormont
5. Jon Snow
Honorable Mention
FOOKIN LEGEND

I know that in terms of lore those rankings suck but in terms of how we actually see each character fight in the show this si what they should be.
Not like i think they are actually better fighters, just that D and D are idiots at portraying good fighting.

>>86266820
Before being written off, poorly. Barristan would have taken on everyone in this list at their peak at his worst.

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>>86272487
Mountain in the pic after Loras strike

>>86266820
Season 1:
Jaime
Barristan
The Mountain
Loras
The Hound

Thought I don't think The Mountain should play in the same league as the others, it would depend on the conditions of the encounter. I think in a regular duel, The Mountain could even beat Jaime and Barristan.

>>86271167
Argueably the 2nd best fighter in the reach and stormlands since he placed 2nd in the King Renlys melee.

>>86268551
Oberyn was certianly better than jaime, but not Barry.


>>86268521

Jon is as talented as His father but has been training since he was young, he is getting better and better. He would rekt brianne


>>86268604
Killer =/= fighter

>>86272494
Littlefinger must think this is some major bullshit.
He's super smart, has plenty of contingencies, then one of the starks is a prophetic mage and another is a super assassin and also magic

>>86273099
>Honorable Mention
>FOOKIN LEGEND
If we go by what we see in the show we should actually put him above Jon.

>>86271216
Thing is rheagar started getting into fights EXTREMELY late in his life. Just after he started reading nerd shit.

>>86271167
Loras is the Jaime of his generation
But unless it's a massive ruse he's crippled atm

>>86271672
One's better than the other with a lance, but yeah Garlan is just a lot less showy than Loras

>>86273475
>Yet when the jousting began, the day belonged to Rhaegar Targaryen. The crown prince wore the armor he would die in: gleaming black plate with the three-headed dragon of his House wrought in rubies on the breast. A plume of scarlet silk streamed behind him when he rode, and it seemed no lance could touch him. Brandon fell to him, and Bronze Yohn Royce, and even the splendid Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.

That's just a joust, but that's also mostly how we know about Loras's skills. Barristan said he was an excellent fighter in a few occasions in the books, too. He might have started training later than most people, but he was ridiculously good at everything, and devoted himself to combat training pretty hard to fulfill the prophecy. It's not like Robert had an easy victory, either; Rhaegar almost killed him.

>>86268011
Jon should be close to Brienne.

They both spent their lives training as a distraction from their outcast status.

>>86268102
>In /got/....on /tv/

no way

>>86273963
>but that's also mostly how we know about Loras's skills.
And the Melee of the bannermen under Renly(reach+stormlands)

>being obsessed with reddit
not part of the rules mods

>>86271392
Disney's Star Wars

>>86266820
1. Ser Barristan Selmy
2. Ser Arthur Dayne
3. Jaime Lannister
4. The Hound
5. The Mountain

>>86271392
Babylon 5 is to Star Wars

>>86274437
>Dayne
Alive in season 1

>>86270587
Yes, ser baristan selmy was NOT joking when he quit kingsguard and said he could carve the others up like a cake. he was being serious, and could defeat all of them. best fighter in westeros hands down.

>>86274437
Garlan, Loras and Oberyn are all better than the Cleganes. Also, Dayne is long dead by season 1.

>>86274476
why does it have to be season 1.
anyway, just move up the list and make the new person on the list at 5th place brienne of tarth

>>86274510
Loras is trash, lost to brienne, and id say clegane brothers are better than brienne, hound would have won vs brienne but she got a nice fluke

>>86266820
1. Ser Barristan Selmy
2. Jaime Lannister
3. Oberyn Martell
4. Sandor Clegane
5. Gregor Clegane

Lyanna Mormont can shame any of those people to death just by talking. She wins.

>>86267662
Even near dead book hound would cut book Brienne in half.

>>86268818
Which of his father?

>>86266820
where's Jorah on this list? He's got the most experience having fought in the rebellion and in a sellsword company. He can beat a khal guard or whatever they're called.

1. Ramsay + 20 good men

>>86267425

That fight was a travesty. A couple of sword clashes and Jaime pulls out a knife. He would have just killed him with his sword outright if he was the better swordsman. Fucking D&D

>>86274750
There's no real indication anywhere that Jorah's an exceptional fighter. He's probably about average for a trained knight.The only reason he killed the bloodrider was because he was wearing armor, which makes arakhs useless, since they're slashing weapons. In the fighting pits, he was almost killed a few times.

>>86274750
if beating a khal bloodrider makes you a top 5 fighter fucken arya stark in season 1 has a shot at the top spot

>>86274795

1. Bronn + 10 good men
2. Ramsay + 20 good men

Ramsay is good with a bow but we never see him fighting fair. Bronn would wipe the floor with him just like Jon did.

>>86274952
Which Ramsay are we talking about? Ramsay shirtless while dual wielding and using dogs?

>>86274916
He's established as a very skilled jouster and a highly competent swordsman in the books. He's far more mediocre in the show though.

>>86274750
BookJorah is probably top 20. Top 5 if we're only talking about jousting.

1. Bronn - Killed a dragon and destroyed every opponent he ever had to face
2. Arya Stark - Arya is literally god right now even beat Brienne in their duel
3. Brienne - Beat Jaime as well as the Hound
4. Oberyn Martell - Beat the Mountain
5. Gregor Clegane - Big and strong as fuck even now that he's a zombie
6. Sandor Clegane - Might have beaten Brienne if he wasn't infected

>old people like Robert and dead people like Rhaegar don't count.
>posts dead people

OP and dicks mix perfectly

Is there even anyone that can beat Arya Stark in a 1on1 right now?

>>86277071
>1. Bronn - Killed a dragon

Huh no. Drogon isn't about to die from a single spear in a non-vital area. He was in more danger in the Meereen coliseum than he was facing Bronn.

Clegane brothers are 2 individual people. The hound is good, but the mountain is on another level.
Also
>bronn
The guy isn't even top 20 what the fuck

As for people we have seen at full strength in the show, ser robert strong is the clear n1.
Jamie, Jon Snow, Oberyn and the hound are at roughly the same level beneath that.
Rest is hard to rank honestly. I guess brienne is somewhere up there, but once you reach this level there are just too many people.
Halfhand, euron, ser barristan, greyworm, daario, drogo etc..

When you get into books it's just get retarded.
The moral of the story is powerlevel rankings are for shit like lotr and bronn is a fucking joke

>>86266820
Drogo was good at fighting other lightly armoured savages. Jorah was shown to have the advantage against the Dothraki who tried to fight him. The Dothraki are ultimately good at horseback raiding against inferior and disoragnised opponents, not true warfare.

>>86277071
>1. Bronn - Killed a dragon and destroyed every opponent he ever had to face
only faced literaly whos, would get rekt by a real fighter
drogon is not dead and if anything kawaiburn killed it
>2. Arya Stark - Arya is literally god right now even beat Brienne in their duel
yeah she is memegod status now, still don't think she would beat most on that list
>3. Brienne - Beat Jaime as well as the Hound
Beat Jamie with shackles on his hands and after he was held in captivity for half a year. Beat the hound who was wounded badly.
She is pretty good, especially "for a woman" but doesn't belong on this list.
>4. Oberyn Martell - Beat the Mountain
Lost to the mountain, who was also injured
>5. Gregor Clegane - Big and strong as fuck even now that he's a zombie
This is the actual n1
>6. Sandor Clegane - Might have beaten Brienne if he wasn't infected
>infected
did mycah give him aids?

>>86278316
He had an infected wound when he fought Brienne, in the books at least.

>>86270209
Was Syrio really that good? I seem to recall the hound telling arya that he was a shitty swordsman

>>86268272
How big is a giant's dick

>>86278540
nah it was like 'how the fuck did he die to ser meryn trant, any shitkid can beat 3 meryn trants'
but he still outclocked the other lannisters and he looks like a really skilled fighter like oberyn

>>86278540
He had a wooden sword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upcWBut9mrI

>>86278672
Skip to 6:00 for the actual fight

>>86270209
>the smiling knight that high
>the mountain not on top
>selmy on 2
>jeor on that list but no halfhand
>jorah on that list
>no strong belwas
>ned on that list
>beric on that list
>reed on that list
>no victarion
>loras "the knight of lances" instead of garlan
>no dragonknight
>no daemon blackfyre
Being a main character or being alive aorund the time of the show/books doesn't make you a good fighter. I appreciate robert being that high, most people seem to forget him.
And most importantly
>no ser duncan
kys

>>86274487
He has that amazing fight in Dance too which D&D totally fucked him out of and had him die to some twats in gay little masks

>>86278540
The Hound was making fun of how unprepared he was. Despite being Arya describing him as the best swordsman in westeros, he died because he didn't have a sword and he went up against armed men who were wearing armor.

Syrio was probably extremely good, having been a first sword of Bravos. But the key to winning a fight is being prepared for that. Syrio did pretty well considering his position, but there's no way he would have won a fight against multiple opponents equipped for a real fight with a wooden sword.

>>86278859
>the smiling knight that high
He was as notirious as a fighter as The Mountain during his time, and he held his own surprisingly well against Jaime and Arthur Dayne.

were there any excellent Stark fighters ever?

>>86279165
Cregan Stark fought Aemon the Dragonknight (one of the best of all time) to a draw. Aemon said he was the best swordsman he ever faced.

>>86279165
Eddard was pretty good. He never fought in tourneys though, so nobody knows exactly how good. Good enough to survive fighting against Arthur Dayne though.

Are Jaqen and the other faceless men trained as excellent fighters or just assassins? I was always under the impression it was the latter but clearly Arya has become quite good.

So if they are trained as good sword fighters as well, where do you guys think Jaqen would fit in this list? He must be close to top tier I'd imagine.

>>86267507
and arya beat her sort?

>People Rate Arthur Over Ned Stark but don't rate Fuggin Legend over Jon Snow

>>86279245
>Good enough to survive fighting against Arthur Dayne though
I agree he was good but that's not a fair statement at all. They were 6 on 3 and Ned still would have been fucked if Howland hadn't pulled off some sneaky shit

>>86274952
Bronn is like a solid snake of GOT, he's got a pretty standard skill set that's he's very good at, no freakish special power but he gets the job done every fucking time

>>86279064
miyamoto musashi used a wooden sword to strike the top of the skull...

syrio breaking heads in that room

>>86270209
Shit list
1 Daemon Blackfyre
2 Aemon the Dragonknight
3 Arthur Dayne
4 Barristan Selmy
5 Ryam Redwyne
6 Gerold Hightower
7 Smiling Knight
8 Jaime Lannister
9 Robert Baratheon
10 Gregor Clegane

>>86270209
>Sir Sandor Clegane, "The Hound"
>Sir Sandor Clegane
>Sir
Fuck off.

>>86271545
At their peaks, or is Selmy old?

>>86278410
he never fought Brienne in the books

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>>86266820
Oh, wow. I'll just stick with ranking OP's five and why.
1) Clegane brothers: They're the best of the best on the fucking continent who serve the royal family directly. If fate is real then it's what they were meant to do. They supplement their ability with a mean streak that loves death.

2) Drogo: He's the best of the best of a nomadic warrior culture. Undefeated.

3) Bronn: He ranks before Jaime because he's had to struggle his whole life. It's not just about strength which he has, or honor which he doesn't, but about cunning, grit, and a mind tuned for victory at any cost.

4) Jaime two hands: Unquestionably the best combatant of the noble lords and houses of Westeros. Very good, but he fights...differently, arrogantly though with honor. And with that method comes disadvantages which others on this list would exploit.

5) Loras Tyrell: Loras is a fine combatant, training since he was a child. He's good at killing, though he's far from a killing machine.

>>86279165
Cregan Stark is one of the better fighters in history.

>>86279245
According to Martin, Ned was mediocre at best.

>>86280637
It was 7v3 and later 7v1 against Dayne. Sneaky Howland was show only. In the books they swamped Dayne and even still only 2 of them survived.

Book Selmy could fuck everyone up minus a few very capable individuals. Prime Barristan would be fucking untouchable.

>>86282604
They are good but not super human. Against the top 5 it would come down to luck and minor circumstances.

>>86282461
>1) Clegane brothers
They both clearly experienced warriors but neither is stated to be particularly exceptional
>2) Drogo
Once again, nothing backs up the idea that he was anything special.
>3) Bronn
He's a competent sellsword. Anything beyond that is fanfic.
>4) Jaime two hands
Definitely top 5 but not "unquestionably the best combatant of the noble lords and houses of Westeros." The Tyrell brothers are either at or near his level and Barristan certainly exceeds Jaime's ability.
>5) Loras Tyrell
Garlan Tyrell is stated by both Margaery and Loras himself to be far better.

>>86282461
>Drogo: He's the best of the best of a nomadic warrior culture. Undefeated.
Dothraki are glorified bandits who mostly fight unarmed sheperds and peasants, and the books detail how they get owned by actual soldiers when rich cites actually stand up to them instead of paying tribute (which they usually don't because keeping a standing army costs more than paying the Dothraki to fuck off).

>>86282553
>Sneaky Howland was show only.

>The finest knight I ever saw was Ser Arthur Dayne, who fought with a blade called Dawn, forged from the heart of a fallen star. They called him the Sword of the Morning, and he would have killed me but for Howland Reed.

We still don't know exactly what happened in the books, but it was probably something sneaky. Either way, Ned would have been killed if Howland hadn't interfered somehow.

>>86282604
Pretty much. Dayne and Barristan are both near supernatural in ability.

>>86282700
>They both clearly experienced warriors but neither is stated to be particularly exceptional
Didn't George said that the Hound was among the best with prime Jaime at the top?

>>86282700
>neither is stated to be particularly exceptional
They're both giants who are pretty technically skilled in addition to having a huge size advantage over everyone.

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Currently alive only

20 good men tier
Clegane Bros
Brienne
One or two of redshirt Dothraki best fighters
Possibly Euron (He's has experience raiding others and fighting many at same time.

Knight lvl Tier
Jorah
Jon
Grey Worm
Bronn
Syrio (yes he's alive)
Tormond

Avg tier
Golden hand Jamie (definitely improved compared to season 4 but didn't see enough last episode.
Podrick
Edd
Davos

Anime tier
Ayra
Gendrey (according to leaks)
Bad possuy
Two Swords of da Mornins

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>>86271573
>Arya, Brienne and Jon
>better than peak Jaime
>no Robert Strong either

>>86268521
>not including Daemon Blackfyre, Fireballs, Redtusk, Bittersteel, Bloodraven, Gwayne Corbray

Lame tbqh

>>86282060
>>86283581
I forgot Cregan and Gwayne in my list

robert sounds like he was one of the best in his time, fucking prologue game of thrones when.

>>86283581
>>86283828
Bittersteel, Bloodraven and Fireballs were all pretty elite as well tbqh

>>86273136
>brute force melee fight
>the precision of jousting

durrrr

>>86283980
Never. Martin said a Robert's Rebellion story would be pointless because everything about it is going to be revealed in the books.

>>86269402
Full powered Jaime with both hands VS the Clegane brothers who have fused together

Why isn't prime Robert on any of these lists?

>>86268656
Probably good odds, equal skill but the downside of them being fuck huge

>>86285823
>the Clegane brothers who have fused together
The Mountain that Rides a Hound or The Mountain Hound?

>>86266820
>Loras Tyrell
haha

no.

>>86267511
It's never implied anywhere, you stupid faggot. It was suggested way before that, Jon had a natural talent with the sword. But he's like 14 in the books. Stop posting fake news before I come over and slap your shit up, you dirty paki cunt.

>>86270587
>>86274487
>>86278934
Barristan, even at his old age, was able to easily dispatch one of the best pit fighters Mereen had ever seen and it barely required any effort on Barristan's part

Barristan is nearly on par with Arthur Dayne

>>86279165
Brandon Stark (Ned's Brother) was considered to be an incredibly good fighter. So much so that he was completely unconcerned about a Trial by Combat against Aerys' champion, when Aerys could have put in Jaime Lannister, Barristan Selmy, or even Arthur Dayne.

Unfortunately, his Trial by Combat was against Fire.

>>86289198
>his Trial by Combat was against Fire.
That was his dad. He died by strangulation trying to save his dad from the fire.

>>86268112
Sumolman teechew owtewstan?

>>86288868

shut up you homophobe

>>86267507
And she beat loras in season 2

>>86289855
this. Rickard was the one cooking in the armor, Brandon was put in a device that strangled him the more he moved. He strangled himself trying to reach a longsword.

>>86289151
this, i'm pretty sure Martin even said that Dayne would beat Barristan only because of Dawn. They're about equal otherwise.

>>86286247
Because the only thing we've heard him actually do is kill Rhaegar, who was never regarded as that great a fighter anyway.
Still I think he's underrated if only because he's apparently the only person in Westeros who realized that warhammers >>> swords when fighting armored opponents.

>>86291380
Dayne with Dawn > Barristan?

Barristan with Dawn > Dayne with Valyrian sword

Spaceship grade metal > Valyrian steel

>>86291380
Rhaegar was considered very good, and so was Robert. They were pretty much two of the best in their time. Where do you dummies get this shit?

In the books, we get bits and pieces of discussions from swordsmen comparing skills.

Barristan, Jaime, Brienne, and The Hound are all in the top five.

I leave out Loras, because he is still young and untested in many ways and has a tendency to get his ass handed to him in tournaments. Also, The Mountain, who is known not for his skills but for his freakish strength. Oberyn I leave out because he used spears.

Arthur Dayne would definitely count, but he is dead. And Jorah when properly motivated by pussy.

As for the show?

Fuck, I don't know. I think they are pushing Arya and Bronn as the biggest sword-wielding badasses in Westeros.

>>86291468
>Barristan with Dawn > Dayne with Valyrian sword
don't know about this one, I think it'd be at least even, though Dayne might have an edge since we don't know if Barristan is good at using a greatsword

>Spaceship grade metal > Valyrian steel
Not sure of this one either, i believe the books say Dawn is just as strong and sharp as VS.

>>86291660
>They were pretty much two of the best in their time.
not really, Rhaegar was considered a good swordsman, but not at the level of Dayne or Barristan. Robert was young and inexperianced at the time of the Rebellion, he was big and strong, but not the "best"

>>86282706
Gee, kind of like most westeros knights then?>>86282765

>>86270421
Then why not John Snow? That can be spelled like that too? Or Khal Drogho? Arja? Oberin? It's Westerhos right? With the vail too? I heard the Dornisch are a force to be reconned with?

>>86266820
More like:
1) Jon Snow
2) Tyrion
3) Bronn
4) Raegar
5) Sam

>>86294171
>Raegar

>>86292531
>I think they are pushing Arya and Bronn as the biggest sword-wielding badasses in Westeros.

Arya's tiny sword won't do shit against armor, and it doesn't have enough reach. It's some Anime level bullshit.

Bronn is more of a soldier than a swordsman, he's good with a sword but not legendary, but he'll use the surrounding and cunning to get the job done

Jamie Lannister both hands
>Agi 9
>Str 7
>INT 6

Jamie Lannister one hand
>Agi 4
>Str 8
>INT 8

Arhur Dayne
>Agi 9
>Str 9
>Int 9

Ser Barristan
>Str 8
>Agi 8
>INT 9

Gregor Clegane
>Str 10
>Agi 4
>Int 4

Sandor Clegane
>Str 9
>Agi 7
>Int 7

Jon Snow
>Agi 7
>Str 7
>Int 6

Ned Stark
>Str 6
>Agi 8
>Int 7

Oberyn
>Str 5
>Agi 10
>Int 8

Drogo
>Str 8
>Agi 9/10
>INT 3

Loras
>Str 3
>Agi 8
>Int 5

Brienne
>Str 8/9
>Agi 7
>Int 7

Bronn
>Str 5
>Agi 8
>Int 10

Arya
>STR 10
>AGI 10
>INT 10
>thanks dnd

Robert Baratheon
>Str 10
>Agi 7
>Int 4

Rhegar Targaryen
>Str 8
>Agi 8
>Int 8/9

Can Bobby b beat cleganes and Jamie?

>>86294560
so Jamie with one hand is stronger than Jamie with 2 hands?

fuck off

>>86294600
war hammer is anti-armor, so if they're all decked out in full plates, then he'll have the advantage

>>86294618
INT>STR

always

>>86294636
cuz books are written by fat nerds

>>86294618
>>86294633
>>86294636
>>86294675
If you are gonna samefag at least disguise your orthography.

Who ever that guys is that weiled two swords and fucked all of Ned starks men up way back when

Why does a valyrian steel sword help so much? I get that it's lighter but surely that won't make a difference to someone who's been swinging a sword around their whole lives?

It being 'stronger' is just kinda dumb unless it manages to cut a regular sword in half. Seems to me only a big two handed valyrian steel sword should be an advantage.

>>86279258
I just got the impression she applied what she learned from the faceless men to her sword lessons.

>>86294618
Because he just keeps working that 1 arm.

>>86266820
>Loras
WTF is this shit. Brienne knocked him on his poof ass..

>>86295485
Nowitenz

>>86296748
>Brienne of Sue knocked him on his poof ass

>>86273395
The whole got became like this, from the extreme opposite at the beginning. In season 1 2 3 barely any plot armor, the good and skilled guys dying like flys because of cunning and politics. Now the cunning and politics count nothing next to super magic powers. I'm a bit disappointed by this except last two episodes cinematography was magistral