"Ah, ha ha, *munch, munch* ol' J.R.R., didn't,

[farts again, sniffs]

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>Being a hero is hard. This was maybe my answer to Marvel, whom, as much as I admire them, I do quibble with. Marvel had a very childish philosophy: that if the hero was a good man, the villain would be defeated. The hero is good and the villain is evil. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Marvel can say that the Avengers beat Thanos and everything was fine afterwards, and they were heroic and just. But Marvel doesn’t ask the question: How does the world react to the presence of living gods among men? Do they intervene in foreign wars? What do they do in times of genocide where world powers refuse to intervene? Do they enter and impliment their own justice? Who's justice to they implement? Do they work with America's allies? Even when those allies are guilty of genocide and use of poison gas to murder children in their cradles?

>>86145099
Any pic of RR Martin makes me smell cheese.

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>>86146390

>>86146390
trying to answer those questions are one of the reasons comics are shit now

>>86147726

Asking and answering are two different forms of storytelling.
There have been some damn good comics which ask these kinds of layered questions and extend beyond simple entertainment.

>>86145099
>>86146390
I know GRRM gets a lot of flack for the 'tax policy' interview, but he's not being unreasonable. Tolkien was an excellent fantasy storybuilder, and that's where much of his success stemmed from. But he stopped there: he built a fantasy world, with few real-world aspects. GRRM also created a deeply intricate world, but tries to tackle real-world questions, and one way to do that is to demonstrate how very few decisions are made easily.

>>86148298
>GRRM also created a deeply intricate world, but tries to tackle real-world questions
>half a page detailing a prepubescent girl's diarrhea
Ah yes a true visionary

>>86148577
THE

>>86148577
Good writing conveys mood as well as message. He's telling you how she's ill, delirious, might not make it till morning. Did you feel a little sick reading that passage? A little put-off? Offended, perhaps? That was the intent.

That page wouldn't even have registered had the /tv/ hivemind not made a meme out of it. How much of your reading are you actually doing yourself?

>>86148746
MORE

SHE

*toots*

>>86148813
>le shock-value edge is good writing now

simply ebin my friend

>>86147726
EXACTLY THIS POST! The MCU movies are they only place anyone gets superheroes right any more.

>>86148962
What's the last novel you read?

>>86149035
Blood Meridian. How is that relevant though?

>>86148298
>But he stopped there: he built a fantasy world, with few real-world aspects.
Real wold aspects are relative to the point of view of protagonist. How dinner is made and taxes are collected are below thoughts of king or hero, but when we see world through the eyes of a hobbit he is thinking about ways of rabbit cooking.

>>86147726
I agree, I was shitting on Snyder and Martin

>>86148962

Good work ignoring the crux of my message.

I'm done replying to you.

Sapkowski is better than G.R.R tbqh. But I know that the english translation of his books are trash tier. I read it in spanish and was a wonderful trip. I really have high hopes on the incoming Witcher netflix series.

>>86149231
It's not always about what's being described, but the implications of it. Simple example: it's wartime, every house is either dying or in debt, so why is this lord hosting extravagant meals? Why is this lord not? Sometimes crucial plot details are hidden in these longwinded passages, and sometimes they aren't.

I agree it can get a bit tiring in places, but it's disingenuous to frame the issue as, "GRRM shits on Tolkien for not telling us Aragorn's tax policies." He literally didn't—he's contrasting the two aspects of worldbuilding.

But we're on /tv/, so let's just spend our time circlejerking the tax quote meme rather than authentically critiquing literature xD xD