At some point, is GoT going to reveal what this guy wants? Very

I think he wants his balls back

>>85974274
Something something balls and fire and magic and balls

>>85974274
he wants a stable, sane leader who'll be good for the realm.

>>85974274
At some point point will you stop being a faggot?

>>85974274
If he got his cock and balls back who do you think he'd rape first?

>>85974274
he is the god of light

>>85974274
We already known everything about him, fucking watch the show instead of jerking off to tits and dragons.

>>85974274
They kind of said it in the last aired episode. He empathizes with the common folk and wants a leader that will keep the realm stable so they don't suffer

>>85974274
He's trying to avoid the fate he saw in the fire.

>>85974274
His real form is an actual giant spider

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Well see in the books he's secretly a Blackfyre supporter and possibly even a Blackfyre himself trying to pass off a Blackfyre descendant as a Targaryen claimant to the throne, but Dabid & Deebee needed more screentime for eunuch nigger cunnilingus, so they had to cut all that out.

>>85974274
He wants his balls back.

>>85974274

He's a Merman

He wants to win the bet he made with Illyrio that Daenerys would become the Queen

>>85974826
>>85974385
And Mad Danny fits in that plan how?

He's working for the white walkers, trying his best to destablize the kingdom as much as possible before the great invasion

Exactly how does he get children to do his work

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>>85974274
Books:
Secret Blackfyre supporter trying to de-stabilize the realm to bring them to power. Dany is just a pawn and a side diversion in his grand plan.

Show:
YASSSS SLAY QUEEN feminist

>>85974274
doesn't die the next episode?

>>85977614

it doesnt, thats why in the books hes supporting someone else and trying to kill her

>>85974274
In the books he has all sorts of dragon / targaryen related schemes. In the show he genuinely just wants what's best for the realm.

How long before the surprise reveal that Bronn is the last survivor of House Reyne?

>>85974274
just re-watched the show and he wants the iron throne himself. he was talking to little finger and little finger asked him what he wanted and he looked over to the iron throne and then back at him. little finger says no way and varys or w.e says "without any sexual desire for men or women there are plenty of other things to desire", aka ruling. Little finger said he wants "all things" to Sansa which means he also wants the throne.

hes a merman.

>>85974360
heh heh heh

>>85977614
She gets Cersei off the throne for Gindri

>>85981413
You didn't get that scene at all, pleb.
It's meant to portray Littlefinger and Varys as polar opposites.

Both are schemers and plotters.
However, Littlefinger wants chaos to advance his personal power at the expense of everything else, whereas Varys wants chaos to advance what he considers to be the good of the realm.

Nietzsche vs. Plato
Power vs. Selflessness

He's stated various times exactly what he wants.

He wants to see normal people looked after, protected from the violence and degeneracy of the rich and powerful. He was horribly mistreated, and now uses his position and skills to gently steer power toward the most benevolent ruler.

He just keeps being let down when those he follows turn into power-mad lunatics.

>>85981887
>turn into power-mad lunatics.
Robert was simply a non caring drunkard.
Joffry was wicked and dumb from the start
Tommen was gentle but at that point Varys jumped off board.

le moustache twirling man of mystery

>>85974274
No, if you've read the books you will know there's something major going on with him and they planted the seeds for this in early seasons but they decided to cut a major storyline in Season 5 because it's too much of a can of worms and they want to rush to the finish line. As a result he doesn't make sense, if you watched the second episode of this season they try to gloss over it by saying he was being honest about his intentions back in Season 1 with Ned in the dungeon where he says he just does whatever he thinks seems best to help the smallfolk at the time. And anything that contradicts this is just mistakes he made, not him having the secret agenda that we're starting to see in the books. It's a big shame.

>>85982300
This is the problem.
As the fanbase grew, they demanded MOAR ACTION MOAR DRAGONS.

Season 1 is very grounded in that it's mostly about political maneuvering and questions of honor and nobility. I'm sure there's an interview I read somewhere in which D&D described it as way too slow.

>>85974274
moar pizza probably

>>85982219
>Tommen was gentle
He was a puppet of his mother. Cersei was running shit. Tommen was also weak and manipulated by religious fanatics. Weak rulers can be just as bad for the realm as powerful assholes.

>>85977865
Who does he support in the books?

Jamie is almost so done with all this. Almost.

He is going to go full retard and get himself killed, just like Littlefinger. The show has no clue how to deal with Varys and Littlefinger types.

>>85974883
>eunuch nigger cunnilingus
Whoa what the heck?? Since when was this board racist???

>>85983003
Aegon IIRC

>>85974826
He said that during the battle of Blackwater Bay, too.

He's a cuck for the realm. All he wants is to live in comfort and serve.

>>85983085
dude, you try too hard

>>85983091
The mad king? Lel he's a few decades late to that party.

>>85983003
In the books he supports a man who is supposedly Aegon Targaryen (the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Elia Martell), who Varys claims to have taken from King's Landing as the Lannisters attacked. In reality, it's more likely that "Aegon" isn't actually a Targaryen at all, just a Blackfyre (bastard house that failed to rebel 100 years ago and ran away). The most recent book ends with "Aegon" and his army attacking Westeros.

The fact that the show has cut him entirely only makes this theory more solid, because GRRM has told D&D the ending and if he's not in the show then it likely doesn't involve "Aegon".

>>85983202
The Mad King was Aerys Targaryen. Aegon is (allegedly, in the books) his grandson.

>>85981650
I would love it if he was secretly plotting for Gendry and I know Gendry is coming back but I don't see time for this to play out. It would also go along with how he said this season that Robert wasn't a bad man at all he just didn't want to lead, where as Dany comes from truly evil stock

I know the ending of Books and show are Supposedly the same. I can however see GRRM fucking D&D over and changing things completely.

>>85983349
The show has changed things completely already.

>>85983202
Aegon is the mad king's grandson, and he has the backing of the Golden Company which is supposedly the greatest band of sellswords.

>>85983346
I don't see why they didn't kill Gendry off earlier, it seems like they are bringing him back just to kill him off next season. He wasn't a good swordsman, and realistically he has no use that the other blacksmiths don't already do.

What will happen is he will have rediscovered Valyrian Steel while boating for many seasons

>>85983416
Yes but apparently the major bullet points are one for one.

>>85983349
I think GRRM might be annoyed that the fanbase has pretty much figured everything out by this point, so I can see him changing everything up out of spite.

>R+L=J is nothing more than red herring, Jon's mother actually is Ashara Dayne
>Stannis really is Azor Ahai
>Dany's dragons all get killed off or stole because of her poor decision making
>Tyrion actually does kill Cersei

etc.

>>85983210
Thanks.

>>85974274
He obviously wants the throne

>>85983468
A man can dream

>>85983416
Pretty much. Book Stannis and Show Stannis are basically two different persons.

>>85983416
The ending is the same, D&D have just changed how the show gets there. Notice how they've completely eliminated certain plots/schemes (Dornish Master Plan, Fake Aegon, Stannis, etc.). Jon Snow likely becomes King in both book and show, since the Grand Northern Conspiracy is already in the works in the books.

>>85983468
>Stannis really is Azor Ahai
All the years of waiting would be worth it if this is actually how things play out.

>>85983468
It will be interesting to see where GRRM takes the characters the show poorly killed off. I don't even see a Stark reunion being possible with Sansa still in the Vale and Arya in Braavos. The whole fake Arya storyline is still ongoing too.

>>85974678
the wizard who castrated him in the first place

>>85983468
>so I can see him changing everything up out of spite.
Maybe that's why it's taking so damn long, he realized the show was going to overtake him and decided to just rewrite Winds of Winter.

>Buy book
>open it
>Author's Note: "Fuck showfags"

>>85983477

Not him, but to add to this GRRM has also written 2 (well 3, but the first one is more about the Targaryens themselves; also reveals that half-Targaryens can look like their non-Targaryen side) that are connected with the consequences of that rebellion and you read quite a bit about what happened. I think it's more than a coincidence that GRRM decided to make short stories about that part of Westeros' history.

>>85977614
How is she even the mad queen in the show though? She kills nobleman that actively plot to kill her, uses her dragons to turn the tides of a war she's losing and basically tames the dothraki so they don't rape and kill people indiscriminately anymore. I mean she's still very much bad at her job but she's not evil or crazy.

>>85974274

Books imply that he is a blackfyre, and that he wants his blackfyre nephew on the throne as a fake talgaryian. He has been sabotaging the real for decades just to get his family in power.

Varys and Littlefinger are at opposite ends of the same spectrum


Varys' desires are all externalized. He doesn't want the throne, he just wants whatever is best for the kingdom


Littlefinger's desires are all internal. He wants the throne and doesn't care about who he fucks over or what he does

>>85974274
He's a Targaryean loyalist who thinks Robert's rebellion destabilized the realm, he wants a strong leader from the original family line on the throne.

The character is a bit lost in the show because his book counterpart has different motives involving plot points that weren't integrated into the show

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Varys will take the Iron Throne

screencap this

>>85977703
(((white walkers)))

>>85974274
>implying DnD know what he wants

>>85983210
The leaks actually say that they will reveal Jon's true name is Aegon, so that would probably be how they solve some of those issues

>>85974385
Why did he protect the mad king (eg. by wisely telling him not to let the Lannisters within the city walls) then?

He's Jaqen, every character except for Arya is Jaqen. Just like every post on this website is made by either you, or me. Prove this wrong.

>>85974274
Varys has no endgame. He just wants to play the game.

>>85981887
The problem is that the show has set him up as a clever, cunning schemer who's always supposed to be one step ahead of everyone else. Why ca he not foresee that the rulers he follows may turn bad and do something about it? The show has written itself into a corner with Varys and Baelish

>>85987727
Baelish will do fuck all this season except die. Hes hould have stayed in KL.

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>>85974274
>>85983003

Okay, here's what happened:

Varys, in the books, is supporting this guy - "Aegon Targaryen" - to take the Iron Throne. Aegon is supposedly the child of Rhaegar and Elia Martell, the one the Mountain killed as a baby, spirited away to the east and raised in secret. It's an obvious load of crap though, "Aegon" is probably a Blackfyre (Targaryen splinter house) or something. But it honestly doesn't matter what Aegon's parenthood is because that's besides the point. Varys' goal is to get someone trustworthy who will look out for the smallfolk on the Iron Throne ("my loyalty is to the streets" and all that jazz). So he had this kid raised from birth to be the best king possible, and is using the "Targaryen" thing as a ploy to make him appear legitimate because you can't just stick some dude on the throne without royal ancestry. That's why he had to get Viserys and Daenerys as far away from Westeros as possible by selling them off to the Dothraki - so they wouldn't get in the way of "Aegon". He assumed Dany and Viserys would just fuck off forever with the Dothraki, and never guessed Dany would hatch dragons and take over the slave cities and go west.

But in the SHOW, D&D consolidated Aegon's plot with Dany's, for a multitude of reasons (time, complicated nature of the plot, introducing a major player halfway through, etc.). Half of Dany's arc this season and last is fused with the Aegon plot in the books, hence Varys supporting her (even though that contradicts him trying to get rid of her back in season 1), Jorah getting greyscale (this happens to a guy named Jon Connington, Aegon's protector, in the books), and Dany allying with Dorne.

I ultimately think fusing Dany and Aegon was a good idea because the Aegon plot is shitty in the books. Either it's a filler arc, or this new main character got introduced at part 5 of 7 - whichever it is, it sucks. But the way they did it in the show has been clumsy, and it's made Varys' plans incoherent.

>>85974274
In the books, he wants Aegon on the throne. In the show he's just fucking about because they didn't put Griff or any of that in the show, so that dumb speech about how he works for the realm is as good as your gonna get even though it makes no sense. I guess he likes Jon and Danny.

>>85988225
>>85988044

>>85983468
He already said he won't change a thing out of fan theories because fans have literally thought everything, so he's planning on sticking with his initial plans. Tho this was before the show spoiled everything so maybe he changed his mind about it.

>>85988044
Don't know how it is in the books but this sounds a thousand times more interesting than Dany's plot in the show.

>>85974297
In the books there's the possibility that he's not an eunuch at all.

>>85974385
But why would a man who was supposedly castrated and abused as a child want to help anyone? This nigga's full of bottled hate and resentment. Some mothafuckas just wanna watch the world burn.

>>85984402

He supported the mad king, Viserys and very questionable Dany (even though it meant civil war). He supports Targs no matter how retarded they are or how many innocents he pretends to care about have to die for it.

>>85987640
the fucking madman

>>85981287
More like how long until they reveal arya is euron?

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>>85974274
Do whatever dnd want, so he can be on Confederate. As a slave

>>85987177

The King's madness was controllable to a degree.

Rhaegar was incoming.

>>85983468

Jon was Lyanna's son since Game of Thrones. No clue why he kept making points of red herrings in Dance instead of moving plot forward.

he wants to put a Blackfyre on the Iron Throne

he is a Blackfyre

>>85987177
Because they would sack tj3 e city, which they did

>>85988709
He was a foreigner with a knack for ferreting out secrets. the mad king was "mad" after he was kidnapped and thought everyone was plotting against him, so he found this eunuch that can find info about such plots. To someone with paranoid delusions, varys became quite invaluable. He didnt support him really, he was just some commoner that had the ear of the king.

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>>85974274

He wanted to crossbow uncle Kevan and Pycelle's skull.

Now that it didn't happen, he just wonders the landscape dreaming of a real purpose and waiting to succumb to his death.

>>85974883
>>85977834
Books:
Written by someone who can't stop introducing characters so everything becomes a mess and drags on much longer then what it needs

Tv shows:
Keeps things nice and simple

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>>85974274
He already did, two episodes ago. He wants to protect the common people from tyrants and douchebags so they don't suffer as much.

>>85977834
>>85974883
Aren't all the Blackfyres are dead in the books?

>>85989363

Because the original concept was a trilogy of books so Jon's parents and his relevance would play out in three books worth of story.
That's why in the initial 1-2 books the plot is progressing fairly fast, while it's more or less anemic at the point where we are.
It's also the reason Dany's been dicking around in Essos forever.

But as it is he dragged things so far that most of these plot twists are clear as day for decades while everyone is waiting for the payoff.

It's very common with career fantasy writers since it's financially smart to milk a popular franchise for all its worth rather than wrap it up in a reasonable and projected way.

>>85974826
Is that why he's been engineering a regime change and civil war under Robert's relatively stable reign?

>>85989912
In the male line. If there was a blackfyre lady who happened to marry illyrio hippopotamus (or whatever the fuck his name is), who then happened to give birth to a little baby blackfyre boy, well that'd be awfully useful for /our eunuch/.

>>85974274
Or he could just die like a bitch since they'll need more money for the dragon fights. Also barely even notice him anymore, so it's no big deal.

>>85989811
this is what reparations creates. Give him star wars and he wants the world. Your a shit actor son

>>85989811
there are blacks in LOTR theyre called Orcs

>>85977614
As a stepping stone for the dwarf who was the only who asked him what he wanted incedently.

>>85990161
it's also why he plotted against rhaegar's coup and favored aerys, who was already pretty mad
cutting off the blackfyre plot was a mistake

>>85983349
Won't matter. The show will be canon.

>>85989811
But most the show takes place in Not-Europe, so all the characters are white. Greytongue is black & so is his waifu. Dorn folks are like Arabic in influence.

>>85993875
Northmen = Scots
Iron Islanders = Scandinavians
The Reach = France + Burgundy
Westernlands = England
Stormlands = Germany
Dorne = Spain

Braavos = Rennaissance Italy
Pentos = Greece
Valyria = Atlantis
Mereen = Persia
Qarth = Arabia

Yi Ti = China
Dothraki = Mongols

>>85981653
Thanks I'd never really thought of the Nietzsche vs Plato comparison.

>>85989763
TV show: neckbreaking pace to keep mouthbreathers distracted from the awful dialogue and shitty, regurgitated plot.

>>85988581
I don't remember this, what are you referring to? It's been a while since I've read the series

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>>85990260
kekistan stronk, brother
maga 5 lyf, praise kuk

>>85994768
In ADWD he spoke to Kevan in a deep, manly voice after shooting him, suggesting that either his castration happened after his voice changed or that he isn't an eunuch at all.
In the show they already confirmed he's an eunuch when Ros tried to reach for his dick and found nothing.

>>85994998

>In ADWD he spoke to Kevan in a deep, manly voice after shooting him, suggesting that either his castration happened after his voice changed or that he isn't an eunuch at all.

doesn't mean he's not a eunuch

>>85994072
Dragonstone is Wales (Prince of DS = Prince of Wales, Arthurian myths, etc.)

Riverlands are the Low Countries?

Vale is Switzerland?

>>85994778
so... these are the saviors of the white race.......

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>>85989811
wtf i love game of thrones now

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>>85994998

>confirmed he's an eunuch when Ros tried to reach for his dick and found nothing.

No anon. She barely felt around. She didn't even touch any of his right leg.

>>85995248
Yes, of course it does.

>>85995512
based N4-PR

>>85995619
just enough to feel a gill. mermen have gills instead of balls.

>>85995762

he could be using some sort of magic to alter his appearance

>>85974678

Ur mom lmao XD

>>85988527
It's actually a decent subplot and they'll probably just end up being Cersei + Euron's first victims while Dany gets her shit together in Essos.

>>85990161
He was anticipating the Lannisters assuming control.

Gif stream

I always thought he would smell like myrrh