>make best WW2 film ever >jews snub you at oscars Tell

>>85935564
Hardly the best.

>>85935586
At the very least it's the best one in decades even though I disagree with you completely and believe this is in fact the best one

Too much action.

>>85935627
>decades

Ok buddy whatever you say lol.

>>85935741
I've seen all the good war movies and I've never been as emotionally invested before. Usually when I watch a war movie I'm overwhelmed by cliches and the urge to laugh at dumb stuff, but this movie had me hooked and in tears by the end

>>85935783
>emotionally invested before

No you weren't, you only made this thread as an excuse to shit talk jews. This entire movie was one cliche after another.

>>85935564
They might as well have used yakkity sax as the music for the opening of the battle

>>85935851
they were good cliches, it's impossible to avoid cliches in a war movie but if they're done well they work, and they were done well in this movie.

That's not even getting into the absoutely PERFECT pacing, not one useless scene in the entire movie

>>85935910
>I don't like cliches
>But I LOVE these cliches

You are so full of shit.

>>85935899
the effects were brilliant and it was one of the more expensive and impressive battle scenes I've ever seen. That banzai charge for instance was fucking beautiful

>>85935783
>crying to this shitty film

How developmentally stunted were you growing up?

>>85935954
>ignore the actual argument I made, greentext a strawman, and tell me I'm full of shit

whatever faggot

> it's impossible to avoid cliches in a war movie but if they're done well they work,

hate cunts like you that don't respond directly and just respond to their own greentexted strawman

>>85935954
He's right though

>>85935564
Hacksaw Ridge was pretty typical conservative "art." Boring cliche after boring cliche and nothing that could pass for an original thought.

>>85936015
Hate cunts like you that pretend to start discussion threads when really your only intent was to get people to bad mouth jews.

You're a fucking moron, this movie was 7.5/10 at best, your brain functions at a 2.5/10 at best. Have a nice day, better luck next time.

>>85936028
your opinion is shit. After watching countless psuedo-intellectual wannabe philosophers trying to be "deep" over the last few decades, it's a breath of fresh air to see a movie with traditional morality and a good wholesome theme

t. gay liberal that lives in california, go fuck yourself

>>85935968
Too bad they were ruined by the slapstick bullshit that kept showing up

>>85936085
>no argument

ok then, just gonna ignore you then

>>85936089
what a generic non-criticism. You haven't actually criticized anything you're just spouting generic nonsense

>>85936086

> traditional morality and a good wholesome theme

Retard detected.

There are dozens of war movies that are better than Hacksaw Ridge. It was ignored by critics because it was hamfisted schlock.

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>>85935564
First part is far too sweet, 2nd part overglorifies itself.

The story is hard to take for real to begin with, despite it actually being even more over the top in reality. But there's something about the presentation that screams "look at this insanely heroic, nice, brave and heroic guy!".

Don't get me wrong, love the movie and have always been a Gibson fan, but it's overcooked.

Pic unrelated.

>>85935741

You're right, it had nothing to do with the plight of the Jude so it is trash. Please cite all the WW2 movies in the past twenty years that are better than Hacksaw Ridge.

Pretty boring desu. Turned it off half way through to take a nap and never finished it. Main character was a giant pussy

>>85936182
>call me a retard
>make a statement with no examples, so basically completely unsupported declarative that would be laughed out of any real debate
>generic insult you probably picked up from redlettermedia

nice post faggot

>>85936232
>threwthefishingpole.jpg

Hugo Weaving was the only redeeming part

>>85936234
> laughed out of any real debate
> traditional morality and a good wholesome theme

This alone would disqualify you from any "real debate." Go back to jerking off to Ben Shapiro and Sargon of Akkad brainlet.

>>85935564
can't believe ppl take this movie seriously

>>85935564

I do think Passion is one of the greatest movies ever made.

The fact it was snubbed is only further proof of this. The awards arent even about the movies.

>>85936129
>le have to be specific to be criticisms guy

>>85936388
another really good argument, wow you're making such good points, I especially enjoyed all the examples you brought up, really supported your argument.

>>85936419
yeah otherwise your post has no substance and isn't even worth the response you got

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>>85935783
I had a bits of tears too from this movie, maybe because it's gave me strong no gf feels.
now I got a gf though(first one)

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>>85936399
Only American hicks do.

>>85936227
Saving Private Ryan
Thin Red Line
Enemy At The Gates
The Pianist
Downfall
Flags of Our Fathers
Letters From Iwo Jima
Valkyrie
Inglorious Bastards

>>85935564
It wasn't about the holocaust

It was about white men being heroic, which Hollywood is against.

>>85936462
You're the one crying to "the best ww2 film ever".
The battle was riddled with unrealistic slapstick nonsense. Sure, the movie started out strong, but that doesn't absolve it of its preposterous, ultra-violent, tone-deaf, climax.

>>85936579
I've seen all of those and I think hacksaw ridge is superior to all of them. Only one that comes close is Letters From Iwo Jima, the others are thoroughly outclassed and it doesn't even seem fair because hacksaw is like a perfect culmination of decades of war movies and it had the hindsight of those movies having already been made.

You're projecting your own biases. Also since you can't whine about Mel Gibson being "blacklisted" anymore, instead of admitting you were wrong, you just backpedaled to the Oscars. And no, it isn't even close to being the best WW2 movie. I doubt that's even your taste, you're just a right wing SJW so you have some ideological obligation to claim a Mel Gibson movie is dabest.

>>85936649
>muh war movie isn't realistic

You're right, war movies should consistent of 6 hours of standing around in a trench, followed by sporadic gunfire for 5 minutes and then another 6 hours of shitting in a hole, because that would be a realistic fun movie to watch

>>85936644
Well since 99.99% of white men are blatantly evil Hollywood's position is pretty understandable.

>>85935564
Sincerely, this was not a good movie.

>>85936015
The cliches were not done well. They followed the same path as every other version of the same series of events in every other movie.

>>85936086
Traditional morality and a wholesome theme do not a good movie make. Those were not the problems with the film, the problems were with how they tackled those themes and how poorly fleshed out they were.

>>85935968
The action scenes lacked any unique qualities, they felt b-tier but with impressive effects. The direction was so stale that Gibson literally did the same shots over and over again. The Bansai charge was fine, but it was nothing compared to the one in The Thin Red Line which actually had some inventive aspects to it. Hacksaw's action scenes were unrealistic even compared to the very chaotic unbelievable action that actually took place on that island.

>>85936644
>It was about white men being heroic, which Hollywood is against.

Hollywood is against something that most of its movies are about? What's your diagnosis?

>>85936672
>I've seen all of those and I think hacksaw ridge is superior to all of them.

Well you're wrong and all the critics agree that you're wrong. No need to get butthurt about it. You just like incredibly cliche "emotional" movies. It's like females that like The Notebook.

>>85936579
Letters from iowa jima is the only one that comes close.

Saving Private Ryan? VALKYRIE? INGLORIOUS BASTARDS? LOL

muh jude

>>85936579
Also:
Beasts of No Nation
Black Hawk Down
Generation War (counting it even though it's a 3ep miniseries)
The Siege of Jadotville

>>85936831
Congratulations, you took the bait. Like I've saying the whole time the only reason this thread was created was to bait people into bashing jews. Didn't seem to work.

>>85936830

You haven't even seen the movie Jude

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>>85936865
He asked for WW2 movies, I left out a ton of war movies. Those are all great and better than Hacksaw for sure.

>>85936885

Free Palestine

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>>85936831
You're the SJW obsessed with Jews, forming your "opinions" of movies on your /pol/ brainwashing instead of the quality of a movie. You're fat and stupid and your parents wish every day they aborted you.

>>85936865
Jarhead too

>>85936721
>le strawman guy

>>85936905
Finally. This is Windtalkers tier.

better than Dunkirk

>>85936905
What a surprise that Mel Gibson has zero artistic integrity and just puts whatever unintentional comedy bullshit he thinks will be flashy into his movie. Imagine how much alcohol-induced brain damage you'd have to incur before putting this campy shit in your war movie.

I stopped watching after the dude with the grease gun was getting dragged out. This movie is pure unrealistic Hollywood non sense. It's good for the kids though

>>85936516
Well done anon

>>85935910
>impossible to avoid cliches in a war movie
What are some typical war movie cliches, and how can we avoid them?

>make a thoughtful, slow paced, emotional war film
>get to the war scenes
>its tarantino over the top level shlock

literally what was he thinking

>>85936579
>SPR
>The Pianist
>Inglorious Basterds
Mentioning any of these films basically confirms that you're 19 at best. I'm sure you also typed in Schindler's List but then deleted it out of embarrassment.

>>85937112
Those movies are all objectively better than hacksaw ridge

>>85937112
>universally loved, critically acclaimed masterworks
>"HURR UR 19"

/pol/ tard spotted

>>85936579
No
Good choice
No
No
No
No
Close
No
Shit tier

You may only post here if you're eighteen years of age or older

>>85937287
>>85936905

>>85937287
>Dawnfall
>no

choke on nigger cock

Cross of Iron is the best ww2 movie ever made. Hacksaw Ridge doesnt even come in the top 30 of best ww2 movies ever made.

>>85937112
Says the faggot who thinks Hacksaw Ridge is good, kys.

>>85937335
Stop samefagging young man.

>>85937367
It's okay man, I also like 6/10 movies once in a while. It's not like they're bad or anything, just not great.

>>85937469
Likewise.

So first you've called me underaged
Now youre accusing me of samefagging.
Just tell me to go back to reditt so we can all go home.

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>>85937112
I liked Hacksaw Ridge but SPR is superior

>muh joos

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>>85937606
Just because I responded to two of your shitty posts doesn't mean that I'm samefagging. You seem to not understand what that term means. But don't let me stop you from sharing your illustrious criticism. It sure is stimulating the ol' noodle.

>>85937929
Your posting style is so obvious. You're pretty bad at this.

>>85935564
It was a piece of shit and objectively worst than Dunkirk among others. I actually can't think of a worse WW2 movie right now

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>>85937979
You're constitutionally incapable of making a constructive point
>n-no
>no you
>y-you're the one
>you're the one who's samefagging

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>>85935564
There was just too much unnecessary and uninteresting backstory. We get constant flashbacks of family issues we've seen millions of times and a flimsy lovestory that was cringe 90% of the time.

Its only saving grace was its action scenes. Nevertheless, the action was still riddled with ridiculous, improbable, and at times, comical moments that made the entire final act feel like a joke.

Ex: The way the protagonist saved his sergeant.
When the protagonist kick away a grenade

The flimsy romance, cliché flashbacks, bland characters, and ridiculous moments in the action scenes just make this film a disappointment to what one would expect from Mel Gibson.

>>85938566

It's ridiculous but he really did try to kick a grenade away. I think it was a dud or something.

>>85935564
Nobody has given a fuck about the Oscars for a long time.

Even Captain America: The First Avenger was a better WW2 movie than Hacksaw Ridge.

Its 6/10 AT BEST, stupid underaged

>>85936905

That's the problem, plebs see as "look at this hero!, go america", but in the context of the movie is to show how much different was desmond from smitty

also the japanese war scenes aren't there to show how the war looked, it's literally christian kino about the descendance to hell and later redemption and salvation from desmond

this is obviously too hard on the plebs that like saving private ryan (which ironically is just a glorified american war movie)

>>85938566
Actually in real life he stepped on the granade, it exploded and shraplened his foot. He survived and continued to serve as medic.

I think the point is that war is goofy and surreal, but its also always hell.

Literally best WW2 movie for long time and best movie of 2016

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>>85935564
>best WW2 film ever
You can't be fucking serious. How old are you?

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>best WW2 film ever
Das Boot, Bridge on the River Kwai, Thin Red Line, Patton, The Great Escape, Letters from Iwo Jima, Cross of Iron, Casablanca, Empire of the Sun, Guns of the Navarone, and Where Eagles Dare would like a word with you, retard.

FUCK the jews

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>>85935564
You are right !!! It definitely is the one of the great films from last year. Especially the sequence on the battlefield is marvelous. The different side of army unit moves in certain direction so that the audiences can tell what is going on within the content. It's shame that not t
many ppl noticed Mel's superior craftsmanship.

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>>85941780
>No Longest day
>No Battle of Britain
>No Theirs is the glory

>>85942835
There are so many examples of movies better than this piece of shit that I just named personal favorites. Your point is valid.

It was a great film but it deservedly didn't win.

It should have been longer.

>>85936579
>googles most popular war movies
>copies some off the wiki list
y u lying anon?

>>85943068
It was shit with cartoon violence. About as kino as windtalkers.

>>85935564
The first half is too slow and corny. The boot camp segment is especially terrible

Second half is excellent though

And Teresa Palmer in this is a new level of qt

>>85935564
as a jew, I have to say this is indeed one of the best WW2 movies.

>>85935564
>best WW2 film ever
That's not Come and See or The Thin Red Line.

>>85935564
That film was shit. First half was so predictable and basically Hollywood by numbers. Much much Southern good ol' boy Jesus and I'm gonna marry you! Lol off to war with me!

Gibson has returned to being a hack

Campy overrated shit.

you ever think this guy is full of shit?]

Maybe he did some of it, but I have a hard to suspending my disbelief that everything that transpired is 100% factual.

>>85935564
>>best WW2 film ever
>When Bridge on the River Kwai already exists

>>85936945
Go suck circumcised dick somewhere else.

>>85935627
literally a fucking teenager

>>85941780
Add in Tora! Tora! Tora! as well.

>>85935783
>I'm overwhelmed by cliches
>had me hooked and in tears by the end
i really choked up when he used that tiny dummy torso as a shield because it proved that mel has dementia

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>>85935564
Kek, I watched this entire movie thinking it was a Vietnam movie.

Letters From Iwo Jima is a better modern one.

>>85935564
It was really good. Mel came back stronger than ever (even if he had a small budget) and created a timeless classic.

I want to see his new project.

>>85936905
lol.


I fucking love Apocalypto, watched it a good 5/6 times but this film is just plain mediocre

Should have cut down on some of the uninteresting background story in the first half and a few of the campy violent scenes (like the human shield part). I would've liked more scenes with Desmond and his platoon before they got to Okinawa. He did fight at Guam and Leyte after all.

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>>85936227

Best WW2 movie of the past few decades is Dunkirk. Not even memeing.