Hollywood Might Not Bounce Back From Theaters' $1.3 Billion

Maybe this will put an end to the endless cycle of sequels, remakes & capeshit

>>85858551
The only thing that would change that is the tastes of consumers. Capitalism itself might as well be creating movies. If one establishment crashed, it would only be replaced with another that did the same things.

>>85858430
Back in 2013 I predicted on the basis of announced Disney, Marvel, WB, DC, Sony, etc films that the industry crash would begin in 2016 or 2017. Looks like I was on the money.

These people never learn. Look up the disaster movie bubble to see what happened the last time. Fortunately that collapse gave us a more creative environment of filmmakers working on lower budgets with less producer interference, so kino might finally be back on the menu in the 2020's.

>>85858551
Superheroes are literally the tentpole holding everything else up. The death of capes is the death of the cinema.

>>85858430
Meh that just means more shit on streaming services

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>teens would rather watch reaction and PRANK *GONE SEXUAL* vids on youtube instead of going to a theater

Welp

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>>85858950
>teens would rather watch free shit on the internet rather than pay $15 to see some shitty movie
really makes you think

>>85858551
no

Hollywood is going to keep making them, and making them worse, and making them so that Chinese people will go buy tickets.

Americans are losing interest in the theater - we're going to keep moving to home streaming and Mr. Wu will gladly pay to see a bunch of white actors blow things up like "Amelicans" do

Consumer products will all move in this trend.

Get comfy with Europeein stuff

>>85859053
that wasn't what I was equating, but cost might factor in as well.

>>85859114
>might
Do you get your parents to buy all your cinema tickets for you or something? The cost of admission is obviously a reason someone would choose not to go to the cinema

>>85858551
>king arthur
>valerian

lmao, if anything there will be nothing but capeshit now

>>85859255
OK? I was agreeing with you. Chill out broseph.

is this the collapse steven spergburger and lucas promised??

>>85858430
>Theaters' $1.3 Billion Stock Collapse
Good. Stop making capeshit with forced racemixing shit.

Take notes from Nolan and actual good directors.

>>85859065
In which case they're fucked. The Chinese government just hoisted up the drawbridge on Western blockbuster releases, claiming (correctly, in my opinion) that these films are having a deleterious effect on Chinese popular culture and are little more than American social propaganda. It's going to be very difficult for any Hollywood studio to release blockbusters in mainland China from this year onwards.

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the films have become too overtly political in a last ditch effort to secure the type of viewer who will watch anything simply because it aligns with their ideals, unfortunately for hollywood these people are in actuality far and few inbetween and more inclined to watch media on the internet

virtue signaling and race-bending/mixing isn't a formula for artistic or financial success, who knew.

By 2030 Disney will be the only movie studio left after buying out all the competition

Half the highest grossing films of this year were made by them

>>85859536
Must make you proud to be in agreement with the "truth" ministry of the Chinese government. Brain dead cunt, you're hilarious. Go back to /pol/.

>>85859682
>implying amazon won't buy out disney
lmao just lmao

>>85858588
Jesus, those digits

Used to be nice to go to the theater and not see another remake, prequel, sequel, or reboot and the studios weren't more concerned with how much it'll make overseas.

>>85858430
>Shit out an abortion of choppy editing high school film club tier cinematography and a mess of post production rewrites and changes
>WOW WHY ISN'T ANYONE SEEING OUR MOVIE
Hollywood is so disconnected from reality it's hilarious.
How many days until Cameron saves cinema from the edge of ruin AGAIN?

Only Disney and Disney owned movie studios should be allowed to make movies.

>Remove no singles policy
Problem solved. I'd go to the theater every week if they didn't have that Draconian shit in effect.

maybe they should stop making movies with insanely high budgets full of cgi

>>85859729
What's wrong, is China not true enough socialism for you? :^)

>Streaming services
>$10 a month roughly, access to everything
>Can watch films alone in my comfortable pillow fort, or with friends.
>Selection of snacks, whatever I want.
>Can rewatch as much as I want

>Cinema
>$20 a ticket, plus falcon tax
>Get to enjoy the 'comfort' of a shitty cinema seat ripe with the last persons farts
>Various over priced, terrible snack options
>People will be loud, stink or otherwise rude
>Can only watch the film once for the price of the ticket
Lmao I wonder why cinemas are dying out.

time for variable pricing in accordance with production costs and Rotten Tomatoes scores?

obviously just get rid of the snipers

i've lost 12 kino comrades this year alone, just wish they had lived long enough to see the emoji movie in imax 3D

>>85860044
>time for variable pricing in accordance with production costs and Rotten Tomatoes scores?
they'd just buy out torrent tomato scores, oh wait they already do...

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>>85858430
mfw cinema is dying!

>>85859883
Cameron will drive the last nail into its coffin.

Avatar, for all its faults, showed the world the tremendous potential of next-generation 3D filmmaking, which Hollywood promptly squandered by cheating out on post-conversions and low-budget gimmick films rather than meticulously crafting 3D experiences - now audiences hate 3D and will usually opt for 2D instead. By going for the short-term cash-grab instead of a long-term investment in quality they killed a chance to reap more revenue from higher 3D ticket prices.

Now watch them do the same thing again when Cameron pioneers glassesless 3D with Avatar 2.

>hollywood crashing and burning
oh noes whatever shall we do

We're heading towards a legitimate Disney monopoly of the movie industry. Audiences and critics alike won't really accept anything not Disney anymore

>>85859536
> It's going to be very difficult for any Hollywood studio to release blockbusters in mainland China from this year onwards.
Just wait til terminator 2 rereleases in 3D

>>85858588
I don't think you understand capitalism m8

>>85860263
desu if studios started re-releasing older/classic movies from their libraries in theaters, I'd much prefer that over sequels/reboots.

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>Theatres stocking capeshit are losing money with no attendance

>Meanwhile my city shows this once a week, and its fucking full every time

I only saw it last night, I had to book my tickets two months in advance to get in

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>spielberg was right

>Make shitty movies like Emoji or reboots no one asked for with forced diversity
>OH NOES WHY IS NO ONE BUYING TICKETS?!
This is probably going lead to more Chinese partnered movies like The Great Wall or hopefully more lower budget and creative films getting greenlit.

>>85860245
This has been coming for years.
Luckily they only makes films for children and man-children so they won't really ever be in competition with real movies.

>>85859888
>>Remove no singles policy
The what

>>85860263
That's the only film set in stone for August in China that I'm aware of, and they announced its release something like two years ago. Spider-Man Homecoming and Valerian are both fighting for August spots due to being denied releases earlier in the summer. Valerian was not made in Hollywood and had a lot of Chinese investment so it's probably safe.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-delays-release-spider-man-homecoming-valerian-1020258

China have seriously fucked Hollywood with this. It's like the merchants were playing checkers while the silk traders were playing chess. They've made them almost totally reliant on box office revenue from China for the last seven years or more, and now they've pulled the plug. I could honestly believe this was planned, and that Chinese investors are ready and waiting to buy up Hollywood when the studios start collapsing.

>>85860692
You're not allowed entry if you're by yourself. It wasn't always this way. They put it into place after the Aurora shooting a few years ago.

>>85860363
They'll never do that. Terminator 2 3D is out for one day only in most countries. I suspect the reason is they don't want audiences to see how much better films were in terms of lighting, aesthetic appeal, screenwriting, acting, practical effects, etc decades in the past vs the video game cutscenes that pass for movies today.

>>85860396
god I fucking hate this contrarian generation


>>85860803
can't they just search people for guns and stuff?

>>85860656
They tried it with Touchstone and Dreamworks SKG. Guess how that went

>>85860973
They do that too. Metal detectors and mandatory bag searches. They even have multiple police officers there during big movie premiers.

>>85860973
>tfw my theater allows singles and guns
Feels good, man. Always carry my piece with me

>>85861050
so why can't a single, non-weapon carrying person get in then?

>>85860766
I've read some speculation that the massive foreign housing buyups by Chinese nationals is done with party money and with the intent of holding it and waiting for the moment when it can all be sold off to create economic turmoil in the afflicted countries.
It sounds very tinfoil hat, but the Chimese have consistently shown that they plan for he long term.

>>85861091
I don't make the rules man. I just try not to break them.

>>85858551
Hollywood has always done remakes, there was a shitload of Wolfmans and Frankensteins and Draculas, we just remember the classics

>>85858430
Thank god, I have had very little reasons to go to the movie theaters in recent years with the constant schlock being shown now days.

>>85860044
They just need to offer discounted monthly/yearly passes for unlimited viewing, which would be similar to buying a subscription service. Keep the single ticket option, but bank some guaranteed money with the subscription plan.

F

>>85859536

Good. Pandering to China wasn't what was killing movie quality, but it sure as shit wasn't helping. All that happens is that we get more movies that are more tailored to American culture and tastes.

>>85861176
We are literally living in a reboot culture and have been for almost 2 decades now, It's not nearly the same situation.

If Hollywood dies, they only have themselves to blame.

No worries, China will be there to buy it back up.

>>85861091
You can, they just pair you with another single of the theater's choice so you can watch each other for suspicious activity.

>>85859888
jesus christ, any movie theater that does this shit deserves to go broke.

>>85859682

Do the Feds give enough of a shit about movies to declare Disney a monopoly at that point and force them to break up? Or are movies exempt since they're a luxury item?

>>85861091

They're fucking with you. There's no such thing as a no singles policy.

>>85858430
I'm glad it's dying, I'm glad TV is dying, I'm glad youtube is already starting to die

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>>85859451
>Take notes from Nolan and actual good directors

>>85860803
I've never heard of that at theatres around me. Have the lefties cucked Colorado that bad?

>>85859322
Hey fuckface, take a step back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE

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>theaters need more money
>start doing more gimmicks
>mfw there will be tiny booths for your family to order food at soon

Didn't Spielberg and Lucas predict this exact thing years ago? Tried looking for a video of when they said this. I feel like they did.

>>85861326
As a European I don't think that's necessarily a good thing either. Hollywood's been slowly strangling the life out of international cinema because it doesn't like competition.

Shit movies doing poorly? I'm baffled.

The slack-jawed morons these movies are targeting have finally learned to torrent, the only people who still rock up to the cinema are oldies, film-buffs, and the parents placating their children with the latest animation monstrosity.

>>85861757
>Lucas and Spielberg told USC students that they are learning about the industry at an extraordinary time of upheaval, where even proven talents find it difficult to get movies into theaters. Some ideas from young filmmakers "are too fringe-y for the movies," Spielberg said. "That's the big danger, and there's eventually going to be an implosion — or a big meltdown. There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that's going to change the paradigm."

>Lucas lamented the high cost of marketing movies and the urge to make them for the masses while ignoring niche audiences. He called cable television "much more adventurous" than film nowadays.
Then he backtracked a few years later and said it was taken out of context.

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>>85861749
>Avatar 2 is set to make 3 billy

>>85858430
But if my cinema closes, where will I go to enjoy a fresh corndog maze every Sunday?

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>Tfw my local theater has tickets for $6, comes out to $12 for a large popcorn and a drink (If you pay $20 you get a bucket that they refill for $4 for a year as long as you wash it)
>Tfw I go see a movie every weekend

>>85858430
>Cinema operators have managed for years to keep increasing sales by raising ticket prices amid stagnant attendance

>less people want to see our repetitive shit?
>i know, lets raise ticket prices!

What could go wrong

>Millennials ruin yet another good thing in this country

Thanks guys!

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>>85858779
No you didn't.

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>walk into movie theater lobby
>literally every movie poster hung up are remakes, sequels, superheroes, and reboots
And theaters wonder why they're fucking dying.

>>85861749
That already exists. It called The Alamo Drafthouse they serve burgers and beer to your table

>>85861868
They said this in 2013, what did he say when he was backtracking?

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>>85862029
Yes, I did.

>>85861961
What fucking theater is this, I don't believe it

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>>85862148
Tug it a little more and prove it.

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>>85858551

>>85861961
Harkins!?

>>85862038
so im guessing you ran out to seevalerian, a non superhero,remake,sequel,reboot?

>>85862227
>>85862191
An AMC Classic in a very poor part of the country. Also it's a matinee

When I visited my brother in PA it came out to about 16 (8 for ticket/5 for popcorn/3 for drink)

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>>85861961
>theaters literally have to pay you to watch movies

>>85862255
No, I saw Dunkirk.

>>85862263

word. Harkins here in arizona is similar.

$5 for a student ticket.

>>85858430
Why can't they just go back to making regular movies? Why does everything have to be a god damn EPIC/SAGA/UNIVERSE. Jesus fucking Christ. Go back to basics.

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>Cinema operators have managed for years to keep increasing sales by raising ticket prices amid stagnant attendance

Y'know, maybe I'm no business major, but wasn't that just about the stupidest thing they could've done? I mean, generally when a product or service experiences less demand, you lower the price. By raising prices, the only movies worth $15-20 are "event movies" like capeshit, so the studios essentially have now staked their entire survival on cranking out expensive tentpole garbage, which has now reached the point of diminishing returns.

>>85862121
>“To clarify, I didn’t ever predict the implosion of the film industry at all,” he said, in comments reported by USA Today. “I simply predicted that [with] a number of blockbusters in one summer – those big sort of tentpole superhero movies – there was going to come a time where two or three or four of them in a row didn’t work. That’s really all I said. I didn’t say the film industry was ever going to end because of them.

>“I also was simply saying that that particular [superhero] genre doesn’t have the legs or the longevity of the western, which was around since the beginning of film, and only started to wither and shrivel in the 60s. I was also trying to make a point that there was room for every kind of movie today, because there seems to be an audience for everything.

>“Even five years ago, there wasn’t an audience for everything. But now, these little movies are squeezing in and finding a berth next to these huge Queen Mary-type movies. And they’re able to find enough of an audience to encourage the distributor and the film companies to finance more of them. And these just aren’t films like Bridge of Spies, but it’s independent movies as well.”
This was 2015

>>85860973
Oh hai, Mark.

>>85862332
What's wrong with that? I agree with everything he just clarified.

>>85862263
Jesus christ. The closest theater to here is in a mall in a very small city. Nighttime tickets are 10 dollars, not terrible. However, small popcorn is $7 and it is tiny. The prices are crazy, I don't see how it can stay open.

>>85858430
How about these fucking retards acknowledge they are making shitty movies pumped full of muh diversity and muh feminism which no one wants to watch?

>>85860018
>Studios come to their senses and raise the price of access to their libraries. This forces streaming services to create their own content, much of which is crap.

>>85858551
Nah even the chinese are tired of this shit.

>>85858430
That's what race, femistronk and gay agenda's get ya. No one wants to watch this crap anymore.


LMAO GREAT

>>85858430
>cinematic universes populated with superbeings seems to be wearing on filmgoers

But the big flops that caused the lower sales weren't superhero movies. Those are still selling relatively well, if not breaking records like they used to. They'll still churn them out since they're making plenty. It's those sequels that they counted on that were the surprise.

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>>85858430

>>85862800
tbf the movies that flopped don't have the qualities you described

>>85858430
good. fuck hollywood and fuck capeshit i hope the media elites go bankrupt

>>85862653

There's a ton of great content on Netflix. You're full of shit.

>>85862837
You're probably right but somehow I still feel like reveling in the thought.

>>85858430
They should make a movie about Hollywood failing. The big twist at the end can be how it was a documentary and they blow up the Hollywood sign.

>>85861232
I would pay $150/year for this.

>>85862950
of course they'll make a movie out of it, someone is probably already writing it, the big short style.

>>85859946
Have some faith in your own nation you traitor.

>>85858779
If you're so good at predicting these things, are you bothering to act on it?

Anyone else in their twenties and not able to get their friends to see movies? Nobody I know wants to even go see Dunkirk. It's not just seeing a movie, it's agreeing on what to see, coordinating a time, having to choose which seats to reserve and praying there are 3 or 4 together for us, having to smell artificial butter on weirdly phony popcorn, then sitting through 30 minutes (timed it when I saw Baby Driver) of ads before you finally see the movie you paid 10 dollars to see. With the number of Coke ads in and around the movie I'm being exposed to, I feel like they should be paying me.
A subscription model really would be nice, along with no reserved seating (only theater close by does this so I have no other choice). Preferably one where I never even had to speak to anyone, I just scan a card and go into whatever movie I want. I'd like to see more movies and wouldn't mind going alone if that were the set up, but I'd feel like such a loser going by myself with the current set up.

>>85863526
I go to see movies with my mom more than I go with friends. If I'm with friends we can usually find something more entertaining to do for cheaper.

>>85863697
This. My parents are the only people I can get into a movie theater

>>85863526
Fuck that dude, rolling solo to the cinema is what it's all about. My issue is, living in Australia, how annoying it is to be watching releases two to four weeks behind the US. Also the lack of a decent independent cinema anywhere in the vicinity.

>>85863773
I'm sorry but we're rolling out a no-singles policy in our theater, you will have to return with a partner or not return at all.

>>85861497
What dreamland do you come from and can I move there?

>>85863697
All my friends are broke or are too busy.

I went with my friend to see Atomic Blonde and paid for both of our tickets, 17 dollars each.

>>85863912
That's cool, I have a little bro I'm moulding into a cinephile. I can drag him along if need be.

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>>85858430
>Go to theatre
>Get screened for a random virgin check
>The security finds out I'm a virgin
>"Don't worry we can fix that haha"
>Get raped by two fat balding men, a teenager AND some super helpful black dude
>Tip the black dude for good customer service
>Get kicked out anyway for not giving a big enough tip
GOOD
FUCK THE THEATER
I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT HAPPENING EVERY SATURDAY

HOLD THE PRESSES

DO YOU MEAN THAT HOLLYWOOD FORCING GAY ROMANCES, BLACK LEADS, INTERRACIAL SEX, TRANNIES AND OTHER SHIRRY STUFF MADE PEOPLE NOT WANT TO GO TO THE MOVIES????

WOAHHHHH

>>85864081
>having a little brother that shares interest

Goddamn I wish this was me. I wished when I was a kid I could have a younger brother. Didn't have an older brother and my older sister just stole stuff from me. My parents adopted a kid who I thought would be the brother I always wanted but he ended up being the worst thing to ever happen to my family. We all tried so hard, even my older sister, but he just ended up a horrible person. He's in prison for raping two girls, theft, and selling heroin. All of that before he was 18. Fuck me for ever wanting a brother, I wish my parents never listened.

>>85864081
I'm sure you're turning him into some kind of phile

>>85862313
damn, my dude is RIPPED

>>85863526
Seemed to be way easier as a teenager. Didnt matter what was playing it would just be fun. Being an adult sucks massive dicks

>>85864180
No. No one is saying that and I really don't know how you made leaps of logic to get there. We're saying badly mad movies are doing shit domestic and have been for the last few years. With China trying to limit Hollywood involvement in their expanding movie market Hollywood will start feeling the lack of a healthy domestic box office. I hope this helped you understand better. Have a nice night anon.

>>85858430
Honestly how does Hollywood expect to survive without theaters? They've fucked themselves over by taking more money from theaters, from what I understand.

>>85864269
China may not produce many good movies, especially recently, but I am so damn happy they're trying to keep Hollywood out of there. Hollywood would just expand and strangle everything. I don't even care if Chinawood becomes just as bad, as long as they're different.

>>85859729

Look lad when even the diehard commies in China's government have had enough of forced nig nigs and sjw shit then you know your ideology is played out

>>85863441
I wish there was a group dedicated to the death of modern cinema desu. I would fight for that cause.

>>85861094

The chinks are playing Chess while we are playing checkers

>>85859255
it cost $5 for students to go to any movie where I live

>>85861426
they'll go after apple and amazon before they'll go after disney

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>>85858430
watching hollywood fail at everything it does is really entertaining. their failure is the most entertaining thing they do. it definately isnt their movies.

we are beyond the point where california is able to export its culture to other states, or even other countries. videogames and internet are by far better than anything hollywood has made in the last what.... 10 years?

nothing of value will be lost

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>>85858430
>capeshit
>7 results

Allah, capeshit is the only thing that makes over $1 billion.

>>85862298
Marcus theaters where I live has $5 Tuesdays (every ticket, any show is $5) and Thursdays it's the same deal for anyone with a student ID, we also have a "2nd run" theater that shows movies 2-3 months after release that only charges $3 a movie

>>85858430
If they halved ticket prices I would unironically visit the theater at least 3 times as often.

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Investment banker here

There are various financial derivative products that profit from movie performance, movies are bundled into "kinobonds" with ratings similar to other bonds. AAA kinobonds are the big blockbuster superhero movies, a BB kinobond might be a movie like Dunkirk which is well regarded but there's no guarantee of massive profit. Junk kinobonds are the movies that go straight to DVD. The problem with kinobonds is that they're leveraged 30x-50x so lets say if a superhero movie loses $100 million, it could potentially translate into losses of $5 billion for investors. Kinobonds are being sold for future movies too, some of these movies aren't even coming out until 2020 and people are already expecting upwards of $1 billion dollars earnings for a single movie, they think China is going to save everything. Movie studios raise capital for making films by issuing kinobonds, and now even AAA kinobonds are beginning to fail. Basically it's like a repeat of the 2007 housing market crash but his time hollywood is fucked. I expect some major studios to go default in 2018, cancelling potentially $10 billion of locked in kinobonds leading to a loss of $500 billion for investors.

>>85861868
wow pretty impressive

>>85864609
how much coke do you do?

Maybe stop paying actors 10 million dollars for 2 months of work

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>>85864609
>I expect some major studios to go default in 2018, cancelling potentially $10 billion of locked in kinobonds leading to a loss of $500 billion for investors.
ANUDA SHOAH

I stopped going to the theater purely because of price. Used to live in a town with an independently owned theater and matinee tickets for 2D showings were $6. I moved and now Regal is the only option for about 30 miles, and every time I go there the price goes up 25 cents. Last matinee 2d show I went to $9.30. If you go to a movie after 5:00 or get stuck seeing something in 3d, it's easily between $13-16.

>>85864609
>kino

Reddit, fuck off.

>>85861749
theaters already do that. I saw Baby Driver with a bucket of ice and a six pack last weekend.

>>85864609
>kino

I feel like nobody outside of /tv/ and reddit uses that word

>>85864857
>he doesnt watch kino


so what's your favourite marvel flick?

>>85859623
what does this image mean for liberals?

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>>85864885
Twitter does

>>85861749
Yeah they're starting to package blowjobs with movies now. Five tickets in one month gets you a blowjob.

They're teasing some kind of special bonus at 20 tickets a month but I'm not sure what it could be!

>>85864900
I think it was supposed to convince me that white people are stupid narcissists when all I see is an innocent woman trying to raise a family from the confines of her own property while a dozen entitled bottomfeeders throw peanuts at her because she has money and they don't

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>>85864805
Most of the big investors are pension funds, the boomers think movies will be forever popular and don't understand things like netflix or pirating.

>>85864971
That's obviously 4chan users on twitter

>>85858430
I stopped going to amc when they rolled out that stupid vip bullshit that just made lines long as fuck by only having two cashiers working the regular ones when no one was going to the fucking vip line.

Hope they lose more money for wasting my time

>>85858430
>And the tried-and-true formula of churning out big-budget sequels and cinematic universes populated with superbeings seems to be wearing on filmgoers.
It's literally only a marvel. Marvel had success and every major studio tried to follow suite, failing spectacularly. Marvel killed Hollywood.

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>>85860396
>I had to book my tickets two months in advance to get in

>>85858430
>BLACKED every movie character
>pander to 10% of the population by pissing in the face of 60%
>the 10% who has no money

Gee, why are movies failing?

>>85862263
>a very poor part of the country
Which is.. ?

>>85865018
I like you

>>85865127
we have a board for scared beta-cucks like you >>>/pol/

>15$+ to go to the fucking movies
>food is x3 the price of a ticket
>movie theaters expect me to go
Fuck going now when I can just wait 4 months and buy the damn movie for less then the cost of going to the theater to watch it

>>85861066
We can't all live in bumblefuck county. I bet you don't pay a surcharge to the falcon handlers either

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>>85858801

>>85865079
Again please see >>85864269
This is a result of public disgust with the low quality of recent(the last 2-3 years)""""""blockbuster""""""" movies and the rehash machine of modern Hollywood.
Where are you all getting this SJW bullshit from? Disney/MCU is pure SJW tier and is one of the only successful studios currently.

>>85865154
thanks!

t. za

>>85865373
you're a pizza?

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>>85858430
>People have gotten slightly more sick of seeing what are essentially the same stupid, low rent movies over and over
>I guess that means movie theaters are dead, pack it up lads
I know it's a childishly simple thing to just say 'Make better movies', but it really seems like the film industry/major studios are specifically trying to jew people out of their money without attempting to improve the quality of their films at all

>>85861091
depends on how the penis inspection goes

>>85865415
no I'm from the ZA region

Finally the beginning of the end begins

>>85860363
They'll literally never do that, though
Why do you think they're going through the trouble of turning all of their greatest hits into live action trash?

>>85865430
>I know it's a childishly simple thing to just say 'Make better movies'
No. That's exactly what needs to happen. They need to make better movies in order to see better profits. It is literally and unironically that simple. Obviously this wouldn't help how shitty and archaic movie theatres are but the studios themselves will see better profits if only from DVD and online sales if they would just make better movies.
Theatres will eventually be phased out. As they should be.

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>>85858551
ENDLESS TRASH

>>85863400
Lol good goy

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>tfw going to the theater is more expensive than ever
>tfw theaters will slowly die off as more stuff gets available for streaming
>tfw going to the theater is one of your favorite things to do

Stop making shitty movies with terrible writing, pacing, and plot holes you could drive a truck through.
Stop making movies with an anti-white agenda.
Stop making movies with anti-male agendas.
Stop brownwashing cnonically white characters, and forcing B/W romance into every story.

>>85865294
It's all interconnected you stupid nigger. No one but dumb niggers like yourself want to watch dumb nigger movies or racemixing/raceswapping shit.

>>85865581
How does this argument hold up when the record climb in profits was during the prime of capeshit? The industry doesn't make money off good movies it makes it off of marketable movies that appeal to Chad and Stacy.

>>85865566
Part of the problem is they want to hold onto the rights so they have to make movies to keep them

>>85866036
This is the real issue. There's almost no way that good blockbusters with some artistic integrity can hit a billion. Shitting out something with mass appeal that takes no risks is always going to make more money

Seriously why don't they just lower the prices of tickets? Why have a theater of 200 be filled by 2 people with 10 dollar tickets. When you can fill it with 4 dollar tickets and make more money? Stupid shit.

>>85860803
>You're not allowed entry if you're by yourself. It wasn't always this way

technically there has been a no singles policy at every theater for at least the last 10+ years. It's some BS studio based rule Hollywood felt would drive more ticket sales.

but being movie theaters are located all over the place and not just Hollywood most don't enforce it. Yet anyone who has seen a film at a theater in the last few years did so at a place that signed some sort of no singles policy rule with top distributors, they just don't enforce it.

that could of course change at any time but I doubt it will. Plus all one has to do is bring along a spare sweat shirt or jacket and say you had to go out the car and get it. You're "other" is already inside. No big deal.

>>85866157

The main reason is that people will be willing to buy high priced tickets for franchise movies because they want to go see it, either because they know they'll like it or just to see it because they feel they have some sort of obligation

The real thing high ticket prices hurt is smaller, independent movies like The Lost City of Z or It Comes At Night. People are less willing to take a chance on those so they won't pay high ticket prices to go see them, but if theaters changed ticket prices to encourage going and seeing something out of your comfort zone, they lose out on the extra money from the franchise movies they would have gotten.

A solution could be having different movies be differently priced, but then the people seeing Transformers in 3D IMAX for $15 would feel like it's a ripoff when Lost City of Z is showing for $5.

>>85865841
I genuinely enjoy the experience of driving to a theater, going through the lobby and finding my theater and seat. The problem is that there are fewer and fewer movies that I actually want to see
As much as I love the experience, I won't go unless there's something worth seeing, and no amount of guilt tripping is going to change that

>>85859888
rather a theater go under than be filled with perverted fucks that fap in their seats to kids movies

>>85861641
Rule has been alive and well in Georgia for years so it's not just Colorado

>>85866233

I know streaming is a more convenient option but to me it's nowhere near the same thing as going to the theater and seeing it there on a bigger screen. Seeing Interstellar in IMAX is far far different from seeing it on a 15" laptop screen. On top of all the stuff you mentioned, of course.

Didn't this happen in the 50/60s thus giving us the cinema revolution of the 1970s?

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This killed the theater.

>>85866232
I went to see Dunkirk on the Friday night it premiered and there were 10 people there. No one sees movies because they can wait 5 months to watch it on netflix for the price of pennies

>>85866344
Pretty much, the main thing it that I just find it much harder to engage with a movie I'm watching on a laptop unless it's very good or I specifically focus. In the theater you get the darkened room with the big picture, and hopefully with a good, loud sound system, and it just grabs your attention more, whereas on a laptop the temptation to just look away from the screen or do something else is much stronger. In my opinion streaming is useful for it's convenience, not because it's the best possible way to watch movies, and I only really use it as a result of not having anything worth going to the theater for

>>85859729
Articles on this have continued to be posted by major news sources, it isn't some /pol/ boogeyman you fucking dunce.

you guys know there's no such thing as a no singles policy right?

>>85866383
We already saw Universal win 2015 by combining things like Minions and Fast 7 with smaller projects like straight outta Compton. They are in prime position to dominate the next decade by keeping budgets low and diversifying the output of films.

>>85860018
This. Movie theaters should become like a combo of streaming services and gyms. You pay $10-20 a month and can watch as many movies as you want and go whenever you want. They'll still make money off their high priced foods too but with more people coming more often.

>>85859053
Its not just cost, you could watch dozens if not a hundred or so youtube videos in the time it takes to get to the theater, watch a movie, and get back to what you were doing, kids don't have good enough attention spans or patience for all that hassle and bullshit anymore.

>>85862110

>no falcon obstacle course

Fuck you and fuck fake kinoplex

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People are sick,of the globalist SJW Jew brainwashing and propaganda. It's that simple.

>>85867252
There are a few theaters playing with options like this but it only ends up paying for itself if you are watching 5 or 6 movies a month.

>>85866206
>Plus all one has to do is bring along a spare sweat shirt or jacket and say you had to go out the car and get it.
You would still have to buy two tickets or pay some random couple to buy you a third one for you if they only sell them in pair or greater to avoid singles.

>>85867309
For the theater or the consumer?

>>85863526
Not in my 20's but 5 years ago I remember my buddies gave up on movies because every theater attracted large, loud black crowds and it made watching movies impossible.

>>85860396
topkek, you must live in hipster central

>>85864180
nice try but its mainly the whitey lead movies that seem to be bombing......(king arthur, valerian, mummy and transformers slightly underpeforming too)

meanwhile stuff like Get Out, Wonder Woman, Girls Trip is over-performing and being surprise hits

>>85861641
I live in Boulder, it's not true, just a meme.

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>>85858551
There have been sequels and remakes done for decades.

Key problem I think is this desire by studios to try and make every movie the next big thing that's supposed to appeal to as many demographics as possible.

Like the Ghostbusters movie was developed based on the idea that it hit a variety of demographic checkboxes.

It was based on a popular property.

It was all female to appeal to women.

It was silly with goofy ghosts so as to appeal to kids.

Yet it was a shit movie due to most of the movie being based on appealing to different demographics rather than trying to just make something entertaining.

Contrast that with Deadpool. A movie Ryan Reynolds tried for years to get made because he loves the character. A movie that ended up with him taking less money just to make sure it got made. A movie which tried its hardest to stay true to the source material.

It did fantastically well. Because rather than having some studio head that was purely trying to make a franchise, it had the backing of a guy that was just devoted to the source material and having fun with it.

Sony's leaked powerpoint slides just seems so fucking pathetic with how these movies get produced. It's almost all just about hitting as many checkboxes as possible.

Now they're doing the checkbox bullshit with Star Wars and people aren't caring, because more effort is being put into making a rainbow coalition out of the cast rather than make a compelling story.

>>85860570
This
They're going to reach a point where they'll have no idea what really sells, and they'll start throwing absolutely anything at the wall to see if it sticks.

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>>85867912
>Avoid American themes
?

>>85858430
could be because theaters choose to show indie movies instead of hollywood blockbusters now, save for the occasional capeshit or star wars movie

>>85868256
I'm can't be sure, but I would guess the Sony person was meaning that it wouldn't include anything to do with the US since the movie was based on a boat out in the ocean. I'm not even sure the US Navy was involved at all.

>>85858430
Is this the beginning of the age of Movies on Netflix?

I'd rather watch fucking Death Note than this cape sequel crap.

>>85868566
Amazon has the movies, Netflix gave up most of its film library to make original content.

>>85867905
Go to the Century theatre on 29th Street with me, anon.

>>85858430
The "diversity" and Leftist bullshit has ruined Hollywood, I refuse to watch new Star Wars or the Thor film because of the erasing of white people. Europe is suffering like hell because of third world immigration, why would I want to see anti-white, feminist, SJW shit in films too?

>>85861580
>I'm glad youtube is already starting to die
?

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When Hollywood crashes anime enthusiasts such as myself won't even feel a thing.

>>85868719
Youtube is starting to set in place rules to censor people so that people with the wrong thoughts won't be allowed to make money on it, which means people have been needing to find alternatives for funding. Though there's Hatreon now so eh.

>>85868681
Going to the Cinebarre in Louisville to see Dunkirk with my mom Saturday, anon, why don't cha tag along!
Also 5.50 for tickets on Tuesdays at Century, what a steal.

>>85868566
>>85868616
I thought they both put out shitty films. NetFlix has Adam Sandler and Amazon only had that Beasts movie.

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Oh no...

>>85868719
>>85868749
They also lost hundreds of advertisers this year, supposedly because of ads showing up on anti-Semitic, extreme, hate, and racist videos.

They're really pushing their subscription service too.

>$1.3 billion loss
>spread across 4 studios

Why is this a problem? That's how much any one of them make on from each blockbuster they put out. A few failures here and there aren't going to change anything. This is the same bullshit they say every 3 summers. Remember how Scott Pilgrim somehow was going to magically crash the movie industry?

Recognize a pattern of bullshit when you see it, /tv/.

>>85865294
Remove Cap, Ironman, Bucky, Loki, all white men, and nobody would bother.

>>85862397
I started to think that many movie theaters are fronts for washing drug money.

>>85866863
But all those movies sucked.

>>85864379
Why are racists stupid?
You think China has a problem with sjw and so many blacks in film?
You don't think China has a problem with white people in film altering chinese perception of the west?
Because white/west cultural worship is far more of a threat to china than black people existing in the west is.

>>85868772
Do you to the university my nigga? If so what's your major?

>>85869196
chinks worship the BWC though. They recognize their superiors. They're not going to watch movies with African Americans running around pretending they run shit. That's too much of a stretch even for capeshit.

>>85869235
I did, but I dropped out because I am directionless and lazy. Was going Comp Sci though. Stuck around because I like the city a lot, perfect size if you ask me. Now I work in Denver as night security at a grow op, I'm here now actually.
We have a good state here.

>>85869196
>You think China has a problem with sjw and so many blacks in film?
Yes, which is why they don't watch, or even release in most cases, movies that focus on those subjects.

Films aren't altering any chinks perception of the west because the chinese government goes out of their way to show them and convince them that the west is shit. I hate hollywood and don't want it to spread any of its filth across the globe anymore but movies are not going to be detrimentsl to any foreign country in any noticeable way. Especially not fucking China, the country that actually endorses hatred and disdain for foreigners on an active basis through entertainment and government.

The only thing a chink is worshiping about America is how fucked and cucked it is and thats entertaining to watch.

>>85869332
>Especially not fucking China, the country that actually endorses hatred and disdain for foreigners on an active basis through entertainment and government.
>>85869303
>chinks worship the BWC though. They recognize their superiors

Which is it? I'm confused.

>>85860126
It's not at all, just that all the people who work on it are insanely overpaid and the wages need to lower with reality

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>>85869349
It's both. They hate us cause they ain't us.

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>>85858430

>Put more effort into diversity pandering and advertising than actually making quality films

>It takes about a decade for the Western public to catch on to the industry shift to social justice pandering and stop paying to see propaganda broadcasts

>China, an ethnonationalist state that carefully monitors foreign media for signs of propaganda, has become the lynchpin to Hollywood profit and is shutting the door to Jewish cinema due to diversity/racemixing/feminist propaganda

No regrets, this will usher in a new era of independent Western filmmaking with a focus on art and quality that will take Jews a few decades to seize control of, if they ever do.

And the kikes did it to themselves.

>>85869235
>Do you to the
has anyone ever been so far?

REMINDER China passed Anti LGBT laws and edited out David and Walter kiss in Alien Covenant. Lmao at jews. Also only 25% of profits actually go to jewllywood.

>>85869349


Both. They are finer with masculine white male lead characters but they hate feminism and they hate niggers/brown people, both things that have been displacing their favored foreign demographic.

>>85862820
The superhero films are dying a slow death.

Spider-Man Homecoming is on track to take less than Amazing Spider-Man 2 once the dust has settled. You may remember from the Sony email leaks that ASM2 "only" making about $700 million worldwide was enough to send them into a flat panic to reboot the franchise and go begging Disney/Marvel for help. Now just a few short years later BAKA with its smaller take is being hailed as "highly successful". Doesn't take a genius nor an accountant to work out actually, no, it's underperformed and they're probably deeply concerned behind closed doors but have to plaster on a smile and pretend everything's alright so the shareholders don't panic. Adding to their woes, its release in China is being delayed indefinitely by the government due to them reinstating the Hollywood blackout.

Observant people will have noticed this same trend with Marvel movies too. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 made less than GOTG1. Dr Strange underperformed (was expected to break $1b). Rogue One, a goddamn STAR WARS movie didn't make as much as Captain America: Civil War.

Expect the real panic to set in when The Last Jedi makes less than $1.5b vs TFA's $2.2b haul.

>>85863400
>Implying I'm American

>>85869558

Why did they expect Dr. Strange to make $1b? Not many people other than comic fans know who Dr. Strange is

>>85869584
because normalfags created a notion - if its marvel its good and has to make 1-2 billion dollars.

>>85858430
FINALLY
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My only questions are, how fast will they blame the average Joe cinemagoer? Will they blame my mate Joe here for bigotry? How much of taxpayers money will be used to save Hollywood?

>>85868256
Who is this bitch and why does she have a rinnegan

>>85869602
>My only questions are, how fast will they blame the average Joe cinemagoer
that nigger from fantastic four already said - "if yo ass wont come to the screening you be raycists cracka!".

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>>85869602

>how fast will they blame the average Joe cinemagoer

They have been doing that since they started converting IPs into purely propaganda devices.

Jews will never ever take responsibility for their own actions, the Hollywood studios will blame everyone but themselves, when it was they who tried to create a universal successful film formula and use that as a vehicle for globalist propaganda, and failed at both.

>>85869630
I've probably missed that. From what i've recently read, i'd expect Boyega to say that, lol

>>85869584
It's basically a matter of record if you look up interviews with Feige and details from behind the scenes of the production. It was meant to set up the dominos for the next "phase" of their cinematic universe like the existence of magic, the existence of a multiverse (can't afford RDJ any more? Just kill him off and bring in Iron Man from dimension 718 who's identical in every way but played by a less expensive actor!), etc. They spent a ton of money punching up the script, reshooting and reshooting again until they believed they had a monster hit on their hands, and then spent an absolute goddamn fortune aggressively marketing it.

Instead of doing Iron Man 3 money it just about limped its way past $600 million.

>>85861749
The combination movie theatre and restaurant near me shut down recently because it wasn't profitable.

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>>85859729
>don't you DARE talk about my favorite propaganda you BIGOT

Why even bother with movie theaters at this point? Just release that shit on bluray or whatever streaming service and be done with it.

>>85858430
jews on suicide watch

>>85858430
Why can't they just spend less money on smaller, cheaper, riskier movies that aren't franchise-based? Just look at the profit margins on Get Out, Split, or if you want to try seeing different without dropping the branding, Logan. I'm not saying I like these films or that they're genuinely experimental or risky. Just saying they made huge returns despite not being the kind of PG-13 wide-appeal merchandise commercials that all studios want to make nowadays to be just like Disney. Why the fuck does every film they put out have to be a $250 million money laundering scheme the size of a small economy? Fucking hell, these studios are going to bankrupt themselves in an attempt to become Disney. Make movies assholes, you'll never move merchandise like the mouse.

>>85860018
You're a real fucking retard for going to a shitty theater instead of a great one. You don't even care about movies, child of /v/.

>>85861094
>It sounds very tinfoil hat
Don't worry bro the Chinese really do things like that. It only sounds tinfoil for all the idiots who have literally no idea about international relations and modern-day economic war ie. most of /tv/ users, half of which will call you /pol/ for it because they'd rather annoy people than reading a (non-comic) book for a change

>>85861352
but rebirth can only happen after death
when all the big-budget releases become all massive flops and big studios go bust, only small budget stuff will be able to be made
that's when you can expect good quality from Hollywood again

>>85870163

>Why the fuck does every film they put out have to be a $250 million money laundering scheme the size of a small economy?

>Why the fuck does every film they put out have to be a $250 million money laundering scheme

>money laundering scheme

You ;answered your own question. Jews like industries in which they cannot easily or realistically be held liable for their accounting.

Cinema will only improve when the Jewish stranglehold has been broken.

there will be a rise in small theaters (alamo / star) that cater to adults and actual movie experience (food, superior seats, and of course indie type beers on tap)
the prices will keep the kids/teens away

>>85869630
boyega is close to saying this
fembuster went all out

surprised disney hasn't shut up boyega and hollywood is on full damage control to keep their actors/actresses/directors/etc from opening their mouths.

>>85859536
China didn't even give half the box office back

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I wish movie theatres (near me) would show more classics. There are so many great looking old movies that I never got to experience on a big screen with a good audio system.

>>85861749

Don't they have "gold class" cinemas in the US which have buttons on the seat to summon the cinewench to bring you food and alcohol?

>>85858430
>1 billion
>makes trillions
OH NOES! ITS ALL OVER! PLEASE GIVE US ATTENTION WE NEED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WE LOST SOME POCKET CHANCE

>>85870671
I would go to the kinoplex a hell of a lot more often if they did reruns of classics

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>mfw the MCU is so good it is L I T E R A L L Y the only thing keeping Hollywood functioning and from the billions and billions of dollars of economic activity the US movie industry produces probably the entire world economy and thereby the entire future of western civilization is being propped up by it
>mfw if DC keeps fucking up and JL bombs it could kill the entire studio of Warner Bros. which would wreck Hollywood enough to weaken the US economy enough that it could start a civil war or even world war from how perilous the completely memeified stock economy is
>Marvel vs DC is literally good guys vs bad guys for the fate of the world

>>85859306
>4chan
i agree with you but valerian is capeshit
watching the trailer, it just looks like a mix of guardians of the galaxy and star wars

>>85870906
>Wanting to keep a rigged system alive

Nice to know Marvlets have been the villains all along.

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>>85868717
WATCH
https://youtu.be/dmpnidUx9pA

https://youtu.be/dmpnidUx9pA

https://youtu.be/dmpnidUx9pA

>>85868884

You're forgetting to subtract Spidey, Antey, Hawkey, Hulkey, Visioney, Strangey.

You're just left with 2 wymmons, 2 useless nogs and wong.

>>85866130
>Shitting out something with mass appeal that takes no risks is always going to make more money
yeah, until they don't which is exactly what's starting to slowly happen
this Hollywood big-budget release strategy is unsustainable. They grew precisely because GOOD movies with LOW budgets were a massive hit. Now they're paying tens of millions just for a single actor, and they're fucked for it.
The only way to correct the strategy is to let it burn first

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imagine you own a restaurant
>you pride yourself on serving a variety or dishes, from cheap to gourmet, and try to ensure that all meals are the best they could be
>all of a sudden, kale has become the latest craze
>you put a kale dish on the menu and it sells better than expected
>"wow look at these profits, i'll take a few items that don't sell well off the menu and replace them with kale dishes as well"
>business is booming
>since the majority of your sales are now kale dishes, you sack the qualified chefs in the kitchen and replace them with trained monkeys that can replicate the kale dishes
>quality of other dishes deteriorates as a result
>your entire business is now dependent on kale
>all of a sudden, everybody is getting sick of the constant stream of kale
>the tables start getting empty but you can't cook anything else of quality anymore

this is hollywood

>Budgets are way to high for most movies
>People are sick of remakes of movies they have nostalgia being remade
>Ticket prices don't offer good value for the price
>Too many assholes talk and use phones int he cinema
>Quality of movies of those with big budgets is generally not there, and people would rather take the safe bet with movies like Star Wars or MCU in which they know what they are getting
>CGI no longer impresses, you can't sell a movie on that any more
>Stop trying to make cinematic universe out of everything
>There are no big stars anymore, so stop paying the a crazy wage
>5 smaller budget movies are now a better bet than one big budget movie

>>85860018
That fucking falcon tax was and is such bullshit.

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>>85871612
That's actually a pretty reasonable food analogy.

>>85859053
this part always gets me

>>85866036
Because the lowest common denominator audience described is not everyone. They churn out this shit for the biggest possible audience, but here's the twist: there's still a fucking huge amount of people outside that audience, and they're being ignored in favour of the audience of retards who would watch literally anything if it had enough Fagbook likes.