What was it about the 15 year period between 1974-1989 that created

>>85823343
Boomers taking LSD?

An actually interesting topic for this board

probably because they were stand out sellers on a poster or in a movie trailer, plus it was when post classical was just born where they brought back old school tier ideas, from the eras that included frankenstein and stuff

>>85823343
Cold War fear haunting the creative imagination.

>>85823343
70s and early 80s were very cynical and depressing times. Social cohesion and trust was low and there was a trend of popularizing and dramatizing abduction, rape, and murder cases as if it were a common occurrence and the world was going to hell.

The 80s and 90s were more optimistic but that type of horror niche had already become a industry at that point.

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>no Tall Man
Get fucked, OP.

>>85823343
Movies were all there was during that time in the vein of far reaching characters. No internet or TV as it is today put a huge focus on the movies.

Some creative minds made interesting characters and they became household names for a long time.

We still see them today because they are household names still, grandpa , uncle tony and the kids know from hearsay. People will see them out of nostalgia and because they are now "classics".

>>85823790
to add, the 70;s and 80's were the start of the technology making movies visually stunning and "real".

We are super desensitized now but back then it had way more of an effect on people.

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Less censorship
Audiences got bored of cheese vampires and ghosts
Visionary directors made huge profits with a moderate budget

Honestly, I think it has to do with the end of Vietnam. By 1974, U.S. audiences were already desensitized to seeing extreme and realistic violence due to Vietnam footage being prominently displayed on TV every night. Film makers probably felt it was safe to take the idea of classic monsters and ramp up the blood and gore to the max in an effort to corner a new market, since audiences would find it easier to swallow.

>>85823343
>Robocop
>TMNT
?

Also, a lot of those are basically versions of the same thing, and they're also retreads of classic monsters.

>>85823343
>we still see today

That's because Hollywood is creatively bankrupt

>>85823514
>>85823530
But but but, nowadays we are living on an era that mirrors the 70's on a lot of levels, are we on the brink of another golden era for horror films?

>>85823343
The use of practical effects and puppetry, obviously. You'll notice all of these movies you listed use their budgets to great effect, and manage to create memorable moments and scenes using these characters, typically involving low light or constrained view points.

back in the 70's and 80's the focus was a solid story without forced cultural issues like diversity affecting the films for one. example - ripley was supposed to be a man, but it was changed to a female and signorey organically made it work.

the horror movies back then had worked based on warnings from parents to teens to behave.
teenage girls would baby sit as a means to make quick money; the parents obviously frowned on using that as a way to just have teen sex. Michael myers came along; teens smoking and drinking in the woods had the morality boogyman Jason to consider. Freddy also killed teens and the ones he usually got were the ones doing drugs and banging each other.

leatherface was a character created to represent the butcher that kills animals in cold blood; the texas chainsaw movie, the original, was a movie to shake a fist at animal cruelty in food processing. to drive the point home, the cannibal family hunted people so the viewer could see how it would feel to be hunted for food

>>85824289
In my view, the OPs list there is composed of characters who exhibit a heightened level of violence compared to earlier periods. Maybe I'm just misremembering, but I can't think of any relatively mainstream movies or characters with as much outright blood shed and carnage as Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Alien and the like before the early 70s.

>>85823343
The 60s and 70s.
The 60s and the 70s on drugs.

Vietnam was more than just a meme; it identified the country and its culture well into the 80s.

>>85823343
The death of the utopian dream of the 60s (represented by the Manson Family's murder of Sharon Tate and friends) led to a general cultural despondency in the US, represented by the sudden upsurge in gory monster/horror/slasher movies. This was aided by loosening standards in film censorship. This trend tapered off in the late 80s as a new utopian dream came to the forefront- that of 90s consumerism.

>>85824434
Tobe Hooper based Leatherface and TCM on Ed Gein. Alexander Sawney Bean has also been the inspiration for a lot of horror movies, The Hills Have Eyes and others.

>>85824466
But that's not related to monsters, that's movies in general. It's when blood squibs began to be used in mainstream movies, for instance. All movies got more violent, not just horror ones.

>>85823514
The cold war influenced the sci/horror/thriller movies in the 50s and 60s more than any other decade. 70s horror was influenced by the Vietnam war and a rise in crime rates, with a helping of religiosity thrown in for some reason.

The late 70s/early 80s started off by merging the 70s "a killer among us" paranoia with a throwback "our kids aren't safe" fear to create the slasher film. That kicked off the camp/college/sleepover horror movies. Because so many were coming out at once, they were forced to create unique antagonists that stood out to the average moviegoer. This started putting an emphasis on the villain rather than the story (which all but went out the fucking window in a lot of cases). Other types of horror movies ran with this villain-centric style and started tweaking old tropes. Gremlins are your standard little green monster. The terminator and predator were scifi versions of this. Some of those movies had interesting protagonists, but even in those cases, they tried to make the villain the coolest part.

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>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
>Robocop

>>85824067
And Manson. And commies killing JFK. And liberalism becoming the standard of American culture.

because boomers, as big of faggots they are, were still willing to take risks and throw money into a project they weren't sure would pay off.
everything is a business today and the gen xers and millennials that run them are yellow bellied cowards afraid to death of taking their training wheels off.

>>85824434
>the original, was a movie to shake a fist at animal cruelty in food processing.
I don't think it was. It was mostly related to the death of small country business in the face of monopolization and technology overtaking man work.
But also, it's interesting to see it as a more metaphorical approach at the theme of the returning Vietnam soldiers that couldn't find a place in society. Just like the hitch-hiker says at the beginning (if I don't remember wrong), they were trained to kill, but the job was over and there was nothing they could do with their abilities in the modern, "civilised" world.

>>85824497
>>85824728
>Vietnam and drugs

We forget that these heavily influenced everything for a large chunk of time.

>both sides in a conflict can be evil
>"something terrible" is hiding in the woods waiting to strike (and you won't see it coming until you're dead)
>There are forced greater than us that we are unaware of
>Arcane knowledge can be dangerous

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>>85823343
The creators grew up on a steady diet of saturdaynight spook-shows and monster / horror flicks in the 50s and 60s.

this is literally the answer all these directors / special effects guys all give. christ it's the impetus behind steven king and the shit hes written too.

Big cinema was a new thing, which lead to studios throwing ideas at a wall and seeing what stuck. All the jewish monetization hadn't yet sucked the life out of the films and turned everything into a franchise-based cinematic universe. Movies intended to have sequels would be trilogies at most.
Now, every movie is made to be a franchise. Every movie has to have a hook for dozens of spinoffs.
So insteads of a trilogy focusing on a few ideas and executing them well, every movie is a rapid fire advertisement spitting concepts for other movies at you, the movie itself has been degraded to a series of commercials for other movies.

The exact same thing happened to American comics. If you want to read a story arc of modern Spider Man, you have to buy Iron Man, Captain America, and a dozen other different series, because the plot is intentionally split between them all to con you into buying more. The Comic industry is the film industry in 30 years.

>>85825058
Yeah, this is a big factor. Everyone's just trying to redo their childhood favorites. Unfortunately, that translates to people LITERALLY redoing their childhood favorites these days with re-boots/makes/quels/queers/etc.

>>85823343
the thing you got to know about horror movies is that they are extremely cheap to make and therefor very profitable
you dont have to pay known actors as they are usually filled with no name kids who you never see in another movie again
you dont really have to pay for permits while shooting in cities because youre shooting in the woods somewhere
its from the same era of grindhouse exploitation films and guerrilla film making

it was easy money and nobody was doing this shit
now its been done to death

>>85824623
honestly i forgot about ed gein. he was the inspiration for tmc, hills have eyes , psycho and im sure theres another one.

but heres a read about the subtext of tmc
http //www comingsoon net/movies/news/576425-foraging-for-subtext-the-texas-chain-saw-massacre-1974

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It was a different time

>>85824850
So if you hate boomers, millennials, and Gen xers, what are you?

>>85824850
you sound like someone who think they are smarter than they actually are
you sound like a faggot

>>85823530
Was just going to post something like this. The 70s and 80s had sensationalist cases like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer to draw from.

>>85825401
Not to mention crime in urban areas ballooning and the suburbanites worrying about crime creeping into their neighborhoods. Busybodies would start to fear that their neighbors were out to get them.

On a related note, how great was The Burbs?

>>85825241
The author of Psycho claimed that he had never heard of Ed Gein until after the book was out. Which is pretty amazing considering how many details line up.

>>85825472
The Burbs is probably the most underrated movie from Tom Hanks' early career.

>>85824906
you should watch the documentary, he's right. it was a veganism thing.

>>85823343
E. Michael Jones theorizes that it was in this period that people became stigmatized by the sexual extremes of the early 70s.
They realized sexual excess is hell, so sex itself became "horror"

>>85823398
This is the reason

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The start of replacement mass immigration, and beginning of the end (maybe).

>>85825241
>Once finished and released, the film was a surprise critical success and financial smash hit. Unfortunately, the company that ushered it into theaters (Bryanston) was a mob front for money laundering and no one involved in the film’s creation ever saw their share of its substantial earnings. Only Hooper went on to have much of a career as a result of its acclaim, and save for a very few exceptions, most of the cast and crew bitterly resent him to this day for that lamentable fact.
Was this common during that era?

>>85826087
More proof than Hopper is a fucking retard and that TCM was just an accident.

>>85826243
*Hooper

>>85826242
The 70's are regarded as the era of the exploitation film for a reason mi familia.

>>85825058
This.Most of the directors grew up on classic horror, learned what worked in the movies,what audiences responded too and effectively updated them with new characters

>>85826242

The mob had its hands in a lot of businesses. Especially porn productions.

>>85823343

Basically, the 70s was an area of explosive creativity in the American film industry. TV had dominated for so long and Hollywood had to take chances on up and coming talent. It was arguably the most important decade for American film.

>>85824376
No because faggot liberal Hollywood wants to make ghosts and anything supernatural some kinda metaphor for feminism or refugees and we'll never be able to just turn our brain off and enjoy a monster being a monster.

See: The """Witch""" and A """Ghost""" Story

>>85824434
>the texas chainsaw movie, the original, was a movie to shake a fist at animal cruelty in food processing.

Lmao faggot

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>>85823343
Venom

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>>85826087

>>85824822
>And commies killing JFK
not this meme, it was the deep state

>>85828687
>commies killing JFK
>the US tried to kill Castro many times but they always failed
The ultimate underdog story

>>85823343
in general the 80s had a great upswing in edgy stuff(not using edgy as an insult), comics films, everything edgy horror grimdark became much more prevalent. I guess it was some kidn fo reaciton to the previous attempts at showing america as perfect place and stuff, people tend to get sick of stuff and move to the other end of the spectrum.