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>Villain's motivations are better than the Hero's

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>Villain's motivations are better than the Hero's
i love this trope
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damn...quentin looks like THAT?
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>>85793632
Stop mentioning that faggot
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>Villain is reading Gatsby while hero is playing on his 3DS in public
Love this trope.
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>>85793632
Quentin? Quentin Lance?
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>>85794036
>villain turns out to be the embodiment of good, and his fall to the 'hero' symbolises the death of the human spirit

when will we see more of this trope?
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>>85793613
>Implying it wasn't dr. Manhattans master plan all along
In fact manhattan killed lots of people all through the movie, he is about even worse than the comedian because he is actually doesnt even need to kill but does it anyway lol.
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>>85793613
>Brutally kicks silk bitch in the stomach propelling her spine into a stone stair, possibly crippling her.
>Owl starts white nighting
>The actual faggot tells the owl to stop being such a faggot

He would have been one of us
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Nice nipple suit, faggot, did Joel Schumacher make it for you?

Jesus Christ Raimi
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>>85793613
me too
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>>85793613
>nipples on the suit
What did Snyder mean by this?
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The old guy in that Avatar movie.
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>>85794410
well he's trying to imitate rameses II and most statuary of the pharoahs were bare chested.
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>DUDE NIHILIST UTILITARIANISM LMAO
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No one in my entourage liked this movie.

No one.

How do you explain this? Is it some sort of pleb filter?
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>>85794804
Did they go in blind? I knew what kind of movie this would be just from the trailers and I left satisfied. I also really liked Sin City when that came out.
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>>85794804
Are they Marvel fans?
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>>85794903
i went in completely blind and enjoyed it
and this is coming from a guy who thought that Dr. Manhattan was going to be the end game villain
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>>85793613
Why?
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>>85794409
anyone save that pic where the image is tilted and he's still leaning?
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>>85793613
>Adrian Veidt, the epitome of human beauty, looks like an inbred goofball in a power rangers costume.
What did Snyder mean by this?
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They were all assholes, especially that cuck Dr. Manhattan
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>>85794410
The comic had subtle hints that Veidt might be gay. Snyder took that as an absolute fact and ran with it.
>keeping your "Boys" next to your massive terrorism plans
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>>85794804
For what it's worth, I used to live in the same town as Alan Moore the writer of the original comic and would occasionally chat with him, he despises the movie, called it 'hollywood shit'.
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>>85795151
Horrendously mis-cast, which is weird considering how they kind of nailed most of the others. Couldn't really pick a better Rorschach or Comedian
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>>85795365
Alan Moore is a fucking nutjob who worships a snake
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>>85795420
Miscast? Who'd you put instead of Goode?
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>>85795006
He is certainly the biggest villain.
He killed lots of innocent people. Heck, all the watchmen are villains
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>>85795465
>Heck, all the watchmen are villains
Nite Owl seems pretty clean. What's his story anyways? Why is he a vigilante?
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>>85795595
iirc he just idolized the original Night Owl while growing up. I haven't read the comic in 600 weeks though so I might just be pulling shit out of my ass.
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If he's so smart why his head so small
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>>85795434
Being head of his own religion gives him huge tax breaks. Remember that.
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>>85794160
With trump hes our last hope
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>>85795463
Ozymandias was meant to be a muscular handsome Aryan Ubermensch who was the peak of human potential both physically and mentally.

Someone who even vaguely fit that description would be good, not the fey twink they picked.
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>>85795595
He gets off on it sexually.
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>>85795434
He's an oddball yeah but not crazy.
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>>85793613
When is it not that trope?
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>>85794804
It's a bad movie.

Was completely unsurprised to find Snyder directed it.
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>>85796234
>what white guys think they are

>>85793613
>what they actually look like
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>>85796388
t. reddit
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>>85796227
Fuck off retard
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>>85794036
Based Chaplin.
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>>85796234
Looks like young Robert Redford
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>>85796416
>>85796427
t. reddit
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>>85796234
Um, he fucking is muscular and handsome... no homo. He's got a bit of the bowie androgynous thing going on, but I think even that fits, as Rorshach comments a couple of times that he thinks the man is a homosexual. In the comic he seemed like a fat ugly 50 year old man, though I'm willing to accept that perhaps that's because of shitty art.

I liked the Ozymandias in the movie a bit better than the one in the comic, though he did have a couple of amazing monologues in the comic that were cut out or trimmed down for the movie and probably shouldn't have been.
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>>85796388
>muh Israeli terrorists

Literally who cares about Israel fucking over some muslims
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>>85794036
>>85794160
>villain too cowardly to answer for his own actions and shoots himself having completely failed in his mission

pretty disappointing trope
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>>85793613

Is this the new sympathetic bad guys?
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>>85796458
>peak of human physical condition
>this man

The androgynous Bowie thing really didn't work for me.
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>>85796467
>>85796481
>>85796486
>>85796491
t. reddit
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>>85796388
Is this the new divide and conquer tactic then? Kind of ironic that you need to imply having good relations with the Jews is a negative you astroturfing faggot.
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>>85796575
T.retard
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>>85794804

they expected something competely different
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>>85796561
He looks fitter than Nite Owl and Rorschach with the suit on.
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>>85796592
>>85796628
t. reddit
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>>85796613
>average trump supporter
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>>85796665
>>85796678
t. reddit
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>>85796698
Anything that triggers SJWs = 4chan
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>>85796652
yeah but the face.. this guy looks like a nerd
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>>85796698
>>85796812
>>85796838
t. reddit
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>>85796812
4chan by definition of this board is anti-sjw you fucking reddit nigger
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>>85796980
t. reddit
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>>85796980
>he even went so far as to (rightfully) call Christianity a pussy religion and that Islam's only flaw was brown people
yeah he wasn't so bright huh
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>>85796812
>>85796698
>>85796812
>>85796838
>>85796698
>>85796678
>>85796481
>>85794036
>>85796388
>>85796416
>>85794036
>>85796388

kek, reddit completely BTFO 2 ez
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>>85793613
Yup
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>>85793632
can I get the Quentin post about avoiding bad movies?
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>>85793613
Yuuuup
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>>85797087
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>>85797134
t. reddit
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>>85793737
name 40
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>>85795365
>Fuck yourself over in contracts
>act like an asshole to a company who is happy to have you keep making Watchmen esque content
>fuck off because you're mad at DC even though you didn't read the contract
>movie of your work comes out
>call it hollywood shit and tell people to stay away from it to keep the company you let fuck you over from gaining a couple extra bucks
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>villain is rational
>good guy is mentally ill

Makes me think
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>>85797152

Avatar. Really?
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>>85797335
0/10 you're just butthurt
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>>85797152
>avatar
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>>85797434
greatest film of all time that changed cinema forever
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Is Alan Moore a hack? I haven't read the comics but the premise is completely bunk in the movie on several levels. Starting with Nixon being some nutter who would disregard MAD and the absurdity of aliens or Manhattan causing anything resembling some gay fantasy world peace scenario and even if it did there's no reason it would last a significant amount of time.
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>>85796891
He is a nerd.
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>>85797069
I wonder what these posts were, leftist mods got buttmad and deleted them
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I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert...
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>>85793681
Lol braindead stoner detected
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>>85796227
Literally praise kek
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>>85793613
Its not a bad way to go with villains.

Thats why game of thrones turned to garbage after Tywin. Everybody since him has been a cardboard cut out edge lord instead of a ruthless but understandable antagonist.
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>>85796341
Y-yeah dude! I just saw Spider-Man Homecoming for the 3rd time! B-based Marvel!
Pathetic
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>>85797726
Fuck off Quentin
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>>85797492
>there's no reason it would last a significant amount of time
That's the whole point, the comic shows the whole plan was going to fail in the long run but Snyder is a fucking hack who missed every single significant point of the comic and focused on the visuals.
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>>85797074
Based.
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>>85797107
He would've been much better if he didn't go full edgy vampire mode.
Wakfu had great villains, though.
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>>85798152
so why does anyone think quentin is morally right then?
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>>85797554
t. reddit
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>>85798711
He is morally right but his plan is flawed.
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>>85798751
so if I stab people at random as long I think I'm doing the right thing it's ok?
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>>85798817
No.
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>>85798152
>the comic shows the whole plan was going to fail in the long run

some crackpots journal wouldn't have changed anything imo but that's true, the threat of aliens or dr manhattan attacking would not have lasted forever...ozymandias's gambit is that it would last long enough for the cold war to die down so the threat of nuclear annihilation isn't as immediate
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>>85798831
t. reddit
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>>85798874
so it has to be millions of people then?
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>>85798903
This right here, he knew his farce wasn't going to work. He just wanted time to get the world together to fight a common enemy and maybe make the world realize it's not just about you.
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>>85798957
No.
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In the comic Ozy immediately has regrets after Rorschach is murdered in cold blood. Ozy went psychotic after having a bad trip on hashish. Ozy may have wanted the best for Earth, but he was clearly insane and caused the death of millions of people. The plan doesn't even work because the real hero will bring about the world's destruction or reordering, anyway. That being said... I like the ending in the movie better because magical alien space squids made out of paper mache being the TRUE enemy of mankind just sounds like retarded, harebrained nonsense.
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>>85793613
Worst casting ever
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>>85797213
Didn't he turn down a lot of money to avoid being associated with the movie? And they wanted to make prequels and sequels and he prevented it?
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>>85799258
the guy that did the art for the comic is proudly credited. yeah, he could be a sellout but its also possible that alan moore is a childish hack
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>>85793613
why does his suit have nipples?
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>>85799258
Alan Moore was right they took his kid and sold it like a cheap whore. They have an hbo series coming out now for watchmen. HOW MUCH FUCKING WATCHMEN CAN THERE FUCKING BE?
>milhousewatcmenbabies.jpg
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>>85799154

Regret? No. Unfortunate because it was a necessity to save the world, he knew Rorschach would not compromise, hence would be killed.
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>>85798993
t. reddit
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>>85796234
So, Elon Musk?
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