>reboot trilogy about super intelligent apes becoming the

>>85778160
It wasn't made by Sony.

Is the new movie monkino? I liked the first two

It had the best creature CGI I've ever seen definitely. There were a few points where it looks like they dropped frames or something, but it was pretty fucking good otherwise.

>deus ex machina ending

anon...

>>85778160
The cg for this movie really was amazing. I didn't even mind the over abundance of close ups that were only there to show it off more.

>>85778464
>not understanding the moses allegory

>>85778160
We should get BLM to get mad about a white actor playing the lead in these.

>>85778160
The only good thing about these movies is the mo-cap

>>85778415
New one is very good, but I think Dawn is better

>>85778539
They're already upset about it anon
>http://www.redstate.com/bradslager/2017/07/12/simian-ever-black-lives-matter-opposes-planet-apes/

>>85778415
Yeah it's good, if you liked the first two you should like War too.

>>85778625
This
Dawn>War>Rise
But Rise is still an 8.5/10 as far as blockbusters go

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>>85778714
>Tfw he says NO

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>>85778788
>mfw

>>85778788

I honestly think Rise does not get enough credit. Caesar had a ton of development there and I honestly liked James Franco in the film.

>>85779187
It was a great coming of age story for Caesar.

>>85778160
Solid writing and direction. Great performances didn't hurt either.

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>>85778788

>>85779187
Rise is good but its CGI has not aged very well, when you watch it along with the other two.
Caesar looks convincingly real maybe 40% of the time, and the other apes are all way less polished, they often look like video game characters.

Whereas in both Dawn and War I'd say all of the apes look real 90% of the time.

Who is the best reboot antagonist and why is it Koba?

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>>85778788
>you will never again be in a laughter filled cinema when that iconic "paws off me" were said ONLY to be silenced a milisecond later when Caesar said "NO"
Its the moment when I fell in love with the series. Kino.

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>>85780075

>Haha! They made a funny reference to the old mo-
>"NO!"
>MFW

>>85778415
its weaker than the 2nd for sure

>>85778160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXkpCGwN31Y

well the third movie was pointless.
the old series sequels had decent ideas but mediocre execution, so the reboots were finally something that had the potential to be improved, and it was for the first two

>>85778415
IT'S APEKINO YOU PLEB

>>85780749

>175 views

Fuck off

>>85780914
>caring about views
do you just watch psy, bieber, and despacito on repeat

Favorite of the trilogy?
Favorite characters?
Favorite scenes?

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>>85781060

>Favorite of the trilogy?
Love them all. Can't decide. They all had something
>Favorite characters?
Caesar is obvious, but I loved Koba, Rocket and Maurice. All of Caesar's human friends were pretty cool too. Rocket doesn't get enough love.
>Favorite scenes?
"NO!"
Apes go to War
The entire prison camp act in War

>>85778160
>consistently good and compelling

But War was a shitpile cashgrab.

>>85778520
Father Aperaham

>>85781060
dawn
caesar, maurice, gary oldman was pretty good, woody harrelson
NO, caesar getting the grain in war, caesar's death, koba shoots caesar, caesar kills koba, koba kills the two guards

>>85781060

>No favorite tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQYdo10_3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taq3LwjWBkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrOolK1KjVs

>>85778196
What is it about Sony that makes them such a great punching bag? I really can't get enough of it.

Never cared about Planet of the Apes. Decided to watch Rises on a random night last week. Watched Dawn, immediately went to the theater for War. These are great movies. Very consistent in quality. Dawn is better than War but it's 9.5 vs an 8.9. We need more movies like these.

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>>85778788
>>85780075

>>85781716
Even though they have positive acclaim and make decent money, this series feels underappreciated. I don't see much hype or discussion about them. Makes me a little sad.

>>85781653
They can't do anything right but retards and subhumans keep holding them up.

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>>85778788

Dont listen to the others.
War was a very run of the mill waste of time, ripoff of the story of Passover from the Old Testament.

>>85778160
They didn't go for the memes.

>>85782726
They're good. There's not much room for shitposting so they don't get discussed on here.

>>85782726
I think it's the apes.
People find it hard to root for live action non-human characters in serious roles.
If it were pointless action and jokes like transformers It would be a popular.
But people aren't going to want to take this seriously.

https://youtu.be/HsxS_M7YIMI

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>>85778160
>good goyim, eat that great replacement allegory up

>>85778160
i hated the new one desu
everything felt like it took 3x longer to happen because we had to deal with sign language and close ups of the apes faces constantly

>>85783453
Oh yeah that was so lame. It was like half of the movie was an Infamous 2 custom level.

>>85783164
>>85783204
These are good points. There's also the lack of waifuable characters.

>WAR for the planet of the apes
>only 1 monkey vs human fight at beginning
>final fight is between human armies while apes run away
I like the movie but this was no war

the plot wasn't really compelling at all imo either
>humans hunting out apes
>crazy military bad guy kills family
>protagonist gets revenge with help of colorful posse
>something about a virus turning people into apes??
lameeee

>>85783685
In another thread it was mentioned Reeves didn't even want that to be the title, it is pretty misleading

>>85778520
Can I understand it but still think it wasn't well done? That avalanche was lame as hell.

>>85783685
I was hoping the invaders were actually apes as silly as that would be. It was kind of a let down.

It was great, but it didn't do what Dawn so did so well. Dawn had a lot of unpredictable things happen.
War felt pretty safe. You knew from his monologue how Colonel would end up

>What went so right?
Well I mean its really hard to do worse than the original Planet of the Ape sequels.

The series had already been squeezed dry already so there was nowhere to go but up

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>>85778160
>What went so right?

They did re-make the right way. They removed the cheesiness of original Planet of the Apes sequels without removing core ideas of the source material. Original Planet of the Apes was a brilliant movie and same applies to first sequel. Three following sequels and TV-show were made with lower budgets and became cheesefest. Re-boot didn't try to redo two good movies, but make updated and more serious version of three not so good ones.

>>85778160
I enjoyed War but i think its the least consistent of the trilogy. War was filled with a lot of dumb moments like convenient underground tunnels they can dig through with no problem and shitty guards and the avalanche.

So where does it go from here? A full remake of the original?

dumbass plebs
Dawn is still bettter, but War is great.
In rank this trilogy is almost like reverse Back to the Future

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>>85778788
Caesar is home.

>>85783993
There are a lot of different routes they can take with the next movie, I really don't know what to expect.

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>>85783993
>So where does it go from here? A full remake of the original?

Honestly I don't think they should do that. First two movies are actual classics. Re-make of first movie failed with Tim Burton and Mark Wahlberg not that long ago. First sequel was a lot about nuclear paranoia and that wouldn't work now as well as it did during Cold War.

IMHO better option would be making straight sequel leading with our heroes becoming corrupted leading to ape run dictatorship or leaving now as winner before sequels become schlock like it happened with original Planet of the Apes movies. War already quipped bit to much on names and shieet.

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So why did the Colonel insist on killing all infected instead of just quarantining them? Especially since the movie said there was possibly a cure?

Furthermore it is understandable to fear the apes due to their increased strength, but couldn't Apes and humans coexist in a society that more highly valued intelligence (like todays) over strength? (especially when human numbers should still be far superior)

Was there another reason this could not happen?
Help me bros

>>85785287
>So why did the Colonel insist on killing all infected instead of just quarantining them? Especially since the movie said there was possibly a cure?
Did you miss that bit of all humanity basically dying to the Simian Flu?

>>85785306
>Did you miss that bit of all humanity basically dying to the Simian Flu?

I don't see how this makes a difference, quarantine should have the same effect as execution without causing a significant rift in the human community

>>85778160

you people are fucking kidding me

this is literally the only thing that manages to be worst than capeshit

>>85781060
>favorite film
Dawn
>favorite characters
Maurice and Gary Oldman
>favorite scene
When Gary Oldman was looking at old pictures

>>85778160
Disclaimer: I really don't watch movies (last one before this one was probably a year ago) and haven't watched the other 2 previous movies.
I just thought the movie was boring. The comedy relief character was lame imo (though I'll admit the theater was cracking up) and the girl with the apes seemed like a stupid inclusion, as why would anyone ever join the apes. I did like the colonel getting infected and thought it was well executed with good foreshadowing, but the rest of the ending was trash. An avalanche killing off hundreds of soldiers? Give me a break.
7/10 almost slept through it like the guy next to me

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>tfw realizing that Maurice will be the one to be corrupted instead of Caesar and will order humanity to be enslaved
Such a great character

>>85785847
>and the girl with the apes seemed like a stupid inclusion, as why would anyone ever join the apes
Did you pay attention? They explained why she was so understanding and comfortable with the apes.

I thought it was kind of fucked up how they gunned down the little girl's father, took her in and now she's pretty much the first one of the human slaves the apes will end up having like they do in the original.

>>85778160
Only good movie in the trilogy was Rise. War was poorly thought out and was trying too hard. I mean really? Holocaust-Slavery-Jesus-Moses all in one movie? come on guys

>>85781653
Amy Pascal still not fired.

>>85778160

Who am I supposed to root for? Why would I want the humans dead?

>>85786299
>Why would I want the humans dead?
Because they're assholes.

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What will the next movie be about ?

Lost Mars mission crew returning back to Earth and coming out of their prolonged sleep only to witness an Ape Roman-like society with muted slaves humans only 70 years later ?

I can already predict the plot. Captain of the mission want to use the nuclear reactor of the ship to nuke Apolis. Young female scientist have her husband (crew's surgeon) die while helping Apes. She falls in love with a big gorilla, bestiality ensues.

Name the actors and actress.

>>85783685
I consider it a silent war? Against not the Apes themselves, but against the Simian flu.

>>85786455
>gorilla
Michael B Jordan
>Captain
Charlston Heston badly CG'd
>Husband
Jonah Hill
>Female scientist
Emma Stone

You know I LOVED Rise but was kinda bummed with Dawn and tired of Hollywood sequelitis. This thread has made me want to see War though. It's a fun series.

>>85778160
Honestly, i loved the movie. One thing bothered me though, which you could attribute to the Simian flu's resurgence.

Why were everyones scouts so fucking shit?
Ceasar and his posse somehow follow a military convoy on horses? A little girl and an ape just walk into a military base lol.

Especially considering the humans were supposed to be on high alert all the time. And it was weird that Apes didn't have scouts on tress everywhere.

Other than that, it was a cool movie.

>>85786559
>Female scientiist
>not Jessica Chastain

>>85786299
This was my main issue with the movie
Had me feeling conflicted the entire time and frustrated

>>85778160
Did we watch the same movie?
"Hey guys, let's build this base under the mountain and add some fuel canisters here and there so that a one granade can blow this all up.
Oh, I almost forgot - under no circumstances patrol the cages. I mean these smart apes that are threat to humanity are to be guarded by one soldier only and no one else may even look the same direction until morning.
In case there is a movement in front of the base, just ignore it. After all we're all just waiting for an all-out attack - surely there's no need to guard the entrance.
What? Tanks and helicopters? All right, let's build a wall. It must stop them and can't be destroyed by the first rocket.
Oh and I almost forgot - that little girl is a soldier too. She's highly skilled ninja that can be seen in light.
That reminds me - the disease doesn't make us just mute, but blind and fucking retarded.

>>85778415
Good, but not as good as dawn. It's very significant story-wise so I'd definitely see it.

APES... TOGETHER... STRONG!

>>85781060
>Favourite
Dawn, without a doubt. It's got everything.

>Characters
Rocket, he's had a very cool redemption arc from bully to hero. Koba, for being a sympathetic, intelligent villain who's fucking scary as well. Maurice for being the ultimate bro. Caeser is the rock that the other characters are build on, he's stoic and grounded, maybe a bit bland compared to the others, but everything else rests on him.

>Scenes
Rise: "NO"
Dawn: Koba throwing that other chimp off a balcony and his speech afterwards. Really tense and drove home Koba's coup and corruption of Caesar's message.
War: The night raid. Visually amazing, the shot of the night vision goggle lights descending behind the waterfall was awesome. Also establishes the Colonel as a huge threat.

>>85786299
>>85787171
I don't think you're really supposed to root for anyone. You're supposed to feel sad for the humans who more or less brought this on themselves and the apes, who were just an unfortunate side effect of human fuckery, just trying to get away and survive.

>>85783993
Nah, the reboot series takes place on the opposite side of the country to the original. It's obviously set up as its own thing.

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>tfw he's dead

>>85787194
Yeah, it was pretty contrived. The character moments were still great, but the writing wasn't as good as the previous two.

>>85785957
I don't see it. It'd be more likely to be Maurice's son that feels jealous of the attention his father gives Nova or some shit.

>>85787731
is he?

>>85778160
The terms like Donkey for apes allied with the humans made it super great. The line about "What of you is there left to save?" was super strong as well as the resulting donkey taking the execution bullet at the end without flinching.

Woody Harrellson was still strong even if it was another retelling of Colonel Kurtz.

tl;dr Colonel Kurtz v Moses was pretty gud

>>85787884
There was a scene in the original script where the Colonel mentioned he'd killed Jason Clarke. That's as much as we'll ever find out about it I guess.

>>85781060
Dawn
Maurice
Koba acting dumb to get a machine gun.
The quiet scenes of nature taking over things in Dawn and War.

>>85787931
So not confirmed, but more than likely.

>>85778415
It's good, still on the same level as the first two. However it dialed up the corn and cheese, handwaves a little more, has more plot convenience, and injects some humor. It is also the bleakest of the three so there's that. Still worth seeing, still a satisfying watch.

Dawn > Rise > War.

>>85780055
What I like is that Dawn and War do the "sympathetic antagonist" shtick right. As in they do the work and earn that sympathy. They are not artificially complex.

>>85781209
No, War completes the arc and ties up loose ends. The next movie will be the cashgrab unless it's a remake of the original from the perspective of the apes.

>>85781716
I rewatched Rise, rewatched Dawn, then saw War overt the course of three days. I love it when a plan comes together.

>>85778415
I thought it was the best of the bunch.

Felt a little more flawed with more plot conveniences than Rise and Dawn, but it did so much so well that the flaws never bothered me. Overall it's my movie of the year so far.

>>85782919
This. They're not memey, they're not quippy, they're not "Disney," they we have balls enough to show apes getting shot dead onscreen. The movies take themselves seriously. They feel like the writers actually put care into their craft. The stories aren't these big, overproduced spectacles; they are Daedylus where lesser movie makers would go full Icarus. They have a sincere, well thought out charm and authenticity to them. If only it could catch on.

Dno about the protagonist. He seems to be without flaws.

>>85787194
>add some fuel canisters here and there so that a one granade can blow this all up
That was literally the idea, Colonel's plan B was to bury both armies under the avalanche, hence the "Alpha and Omega" stuff - they were prepared to be the end of the humanity.

>>85786299
Who says that you have to want either side dead?

>>85778160
It completely misses EVERY socio-political theme the original had. I can tell you're underage.

>>85788461
>they wanted to die. that's why they fought them and the monkey had to do it
wat?

>>85788774
They didn't want to die. What that anon is saying is that if the battle went sideways, the colonel was going to kill everyone by blowing the fuel tanks and setting off an avalanche

>>85788664
Such as?

Why in fuck does YMS dislike these movies so much while rating marvel shit higher?

He's trashed every Planet of the Apes reboot film and for the most fucking nitpicky reasons as well while ignoring the greater story, themes, acting, cinematography etc.

I thought this movie was fucking dope as shit. Yes there are some suspension of disbelief parts (like the apes escaping without being seen) but honestly it's not that hard to explain it. They didn't have many guards watching them because they didn't even think Ceaser was more intelligent than a child. How many guards do you have watching apes at a Zoo? Also it was probably a lot more dark than what the movie was showing. (considering it was brightly lit in tunnels with no light whatsoever)

I like the old Planet of the apes.

The CGI monkies in this make it so I can't take it seriously though. It just looks so corny.

>>85789032
Because YMS is and always has been a troll who makes comedic videos. Normies don't like it either, but that's because they're too busy wanking over whatever new movie Nolan has shat out.

Three is the absolute worst of the trilogy and is a terrible movie

Ripping off Apocalypse Now and that stupid "Hey do the conversation scene by having everything aside from the person talking unfocused into a strokeview every single time" """"technique""""

2=1>>>>>>>>>>>>3

>>85789032
Because he's a dogfucker who has no sense of what makes a movie cinematic and only ever nitpicks plot and characters' actions because he can't understand that people react differently to various emotional pressures and contexts and if they don't adhere to a cold logical hindsight mode he spergs out

>>85786334
The one thing I don't like about this is how they show apes as some fantastic all loving beings when they aren't even like that in real life.
Humans aren't perfect either but so many movies portray us as sadistic beings.

>>85787718
Dosent mean anything

Don't forget how based the soundtrack was. Especially the first track that plays during the opening scenes.

>>85789032
>>85789247
>>85789350
I've only watched the last one and I really agree with YMS on this one. I enjoyed the movie but it had a lot of stupid stuff. I really liked how it started but it just progressively got worse and worse. Characters in the movie were okay for the most part but some were underdeveloped and some felt like they were added to give movie a summer flick vibe which didn't work too well. In marvel movies comedy seems natural, here it's too rare and even in those rare occasions it feels very forced.

in a sense i didn't like how they tried to make a fun and an interesting story but made it too cliche - not sure how to describe it. When you have absolute kino scenes mixed with dogshit (woody harrelson's death followed by that retarded grenade throw etc) it feels odd. And it's really unfortunate because when the movie is good it's fucking good, use of cinematography, acting, soundtrack work so well.

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>>85790452
>In marvel movies comedy seems natural

>>85790484
It does. Main characters in marvel flicks usually act like the kind of people who would constantly make jokes, if that makes sense, and upbeat tone of marvel movies always allows for quips here and there, so yeah, I think it feels more natural there than it did in the last apes movie

>>85781060
>Favorite of the trilogy?
Dawn
>Favorite characters?
Caesar, Maurice, Rocket and Koba were all great.
>Favorite scenes?
NO
The apes riding to the gates of the human city to show their strength
The battle in the beginning of war

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>>85790562
If you're saying "fits the tone of the movie" sure
But the "dialogue" of those movies is an atrocious series of characters trying to out-wit eachother with quips comebacks and snark aside from the "serious" characters

>>85781653
Read the leaked emails, it's astounding just how out of touch they are

>>85790625
all I'm saying is that it usually fits marvel movies and when people make jokes it doesn't seem unnatural, when here it seems like some fucking studio meddling with the movie shoehorning a comedic sidekick in

>>85790629
Are you talking about those that I can find on wikileaks? pretty curious t b q h f a m

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>>85790670
>when here it seems like some fucking studio meddling

Yeah
Sure

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>>85778788

>>85790755
>yeah sure I don't really have any arguments left I just need to have a pathetic excuse to leave a post and go on with my avatarfagging
keep yourself safe

>>85790814
>it wasn't the shit writing and filmmaking of this trash movie that allowed the comedy elements to slip in! Surely it was studio meddling!

War is the worst of the trilogy for more than one reason

>>85791127
never said that, this movie has a lot of problems, it's just that the other fag tried to argue about comedic elements

>>85786653
>Why were everyones scouts so fucking shit?

my hypothesis is that it's been 15 years and their military discipline has gone to complete shit

>>85786653
This, and how did nobody notice that all apes have escaped until the very last moment? And how do these tunnels work? Why didn't someone just step on one of the many entrances to it? The cages with apes were pretty tightly packed

>>85778788
>when the other apes are cheering and he keeps shouting "NO! NO! NO!"

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>>85778788
HLEAVE HIM

>>85783845
This, it would be fun

>>85786299
i wanted both sides to live peacefully :/

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id suck andy's dick no homo

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>>85793134
>You will never roleplay with Andy in the bedroom as your favorite characters from his films