Why is reddit pissed about it?

>>85725554
*sigh*

Another /pol/ thread..

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>>85725554
haha that will sure show hollywood, switching the dumpster fire you decide to throw your money into

man redditors are geniuses

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>>85725554
what kind of reverse psychology marketing is this?

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>>85725686

>>85725641
>war-centric plot
>forced diversity
>unnecessary design changes to uniforms, ships and Klingons that break canon
>lens flares

>>85725641
From what I've seen, the two captains shown are female and not white. There is a white male admiral that is just WAR. And going with Klingon war just seems lazy

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>>85725554
>Watching anything involving Seth Mcfarlane, especially when he's one of the actors

>>85725823
>>war-centric plot
>>forced diversity
>>unnecessary design changes to uniforms, ships and Klingons that break canon
but is okay when DS9 did it

>>85725554
You do realize the new show is less racially diverse than the original right?

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>>85725853
This. The man on the far left will be a sexually harassing admiral that will rape the two female captain leads who have to ally with the WEWUZ Klingons to take him down. Yes, I said TWO female captain leads. The Discovery will have two woman captains because lol fuck canon or even common sense.

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>>85725995
>White
>White
>White
>Maybe white, could be Middle Eastern
>Half black
>Alien
>Asian

So where is the "forced diversity"? Also female captains are "non-canon"?

>>85725554
I'm a star trek fan but Discovery looks good, it's just that their updating the look.

Orville looks alright but it's a parody of the TNG era, which is what Discovery has to leave behind.

>>85726084
There will be TWO female captains of the Discovery simultaneously, probably as a lesbian couple. And it's forced because they're Mary Sues.

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why are they afraid of making 25th century trek?

>>85726232
You have a link to where they have confirmed the ship will have two captains?

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>>85725554
Why does /pol/ post fake shit all the time?

>>85725823
>>forced diversity
Star Trek basically invented this. How is this a complaint?

>>85725976

The execution matters less than the motivation.

>>85726400
And what does that mean?

>>85726346
they're the typical purveyors of fake news

Do you think Will Riker's continual sexual harassment of female crew (and others) would be tolerated by a competent Starfleet Captain?

ANSWER = HELL NO!

Damn, Riker was inserting his "wiener-doggie" into anything he could hunt up for awhile there. Did that walking hard-on ever consider that other women might be uncomfortable around his "Roman eye" and "Russian fingers"? That's ground for termination right there.

Picard should have destroyed Riker's career right after Riker walked aboard the Enterprise and first started his sleazy behavior. You can't have a horn-dog like Riker demoralizing the other crew as well as giving the Federation a nasty reputation. Hey Riker, do your womanizing in your off-time.

Now Picard is in the position to get canned since the Capt. never tried to correct his behavior or at least stop his Running Buddy Will. Picard knew better so BYE BYE PICARD! BYE BYE WILL!

They'll listen to this advice when those expensive sexual harassment lawsuits start stacking up.

>>85726237
maybe its because time travel becomes super prevalent in the 25th century? whats the point in telling a story fluid time line?

>>85725995
What's with the gym shoes? My, how sci-fi.

>>85726264
Just google it, I won't spoonfeed you.

>>85726399
This. Star Trek literally has a reputation for pushing diversity and progressive values on the screen. And suddenly spergs have a problem with it in this iteration of Star Trek and not all the previous ones?

>>85726346
Fake News.

SAD

>>85726399
It was natural before, people just happened to come from different backgrounds. Now it's forced. Armored Skeptic explains it really well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UVhGe7M4U

nu-klingons looks like shiiiieet

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As a big trek fan, my favorite is Voyager. I liked the first JJ movie. But the movies didn't bridge together. So I was pretty disappointed it wasn't taking place after Voyager. Its over twenty years since Voyager debuted and they haven't made a story that takes place after that. I didn't grow up in the classic trek timeline. I grew up with TNG and Voyager. So it just sucks they have another Trek take place before or if they are rebooting TOS-like stuff.

>>85726486
You're dumb

>>85725918
Well yeah, the DS9 writers weren't hacks.

>>85726551
>http://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-jason-isaacs-captain-lorca-photo/

>And it is the first Star Trek series that appears to be about two ships and two Captains

Got it, so you were completely shitposting. Have a nice day.

>>85726587
Skeptic is the one that started the SJW rumour that bearing bullies underaged feminists. Both he and Jewonhead are admitted feminists

>>85726237
Because by the 25th century the Federation will be even more "holier than thou " than TNG and have technology superior to pretty much everyone else in the alpha and beta quadrants.

That means no edgy war pseudo sci-fi and they would have to make actual Star Trek.

>>85726587
The diversity in the original show was absolutely forced, this is well known.

>>85725995
>>85726084
>>85726232
>>85726264
>>85726399
My complaint isn't that it's 2 female captains, it's the lazy white male war monger. And the Klingon war that has been used at least 3 times already. I'd like a new story and maybe a alien captain for real diversity. If the federation had so many alien members why the fuck is a crew always 95% human

32 post in and no one ask for a source to op's statement?

>>85726714
>My complaint isn't that it's 2 female captains

Then why did you bring it up in multiple posts and accuse them of "likely being lesbians"? Or are you just backpedaling because you got called the fuck out?

>If the federation had so many alien members why the fuck is a crew always 95% human

Because this is Starfleet, not the Federation.

>Original Star Trek had forced diversity and other social stuff
>lasted only 3 seasons

>TNG, DS9, VOY had a good cast of characters and didn't try to push any diversity but just tell stories with sympathetic crews
>lasted 7 seasons

It actually makes you ponder

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>>85726237
That would require superior ambition.

>>85726587
>just happened
Do you honestly think that the diversity in previous Trek series wasn't planned? That they just happened to have a diverse cast with every single iteration by coincidence?

>>85726683
It was "forced" in the sense of wanting to be more inclusive. Now it's pushing an agenda.

>reddit hates it
/our show/ confirmed

>>85726587
Oh please, get the fuck out of your room and don't pretend to know what Star Trek did in the 60. or what Roddenberry thought about it.

You are a pathetic polfuck, that bitches and moans, whenever he sees a person of colour in any meaningful position.

>>85726901
And what is their "agenda" if it's not inclusiveness?

>>85725554
Star Trek was always about the Human Experience. It was never about "dude a WOMAN just fought that alien BARE HANDED DAMNNN"

Notice how the most award winning episodes of Star Trek dont have any focus on pointless action or dude women dude blacks dude race lmao scenes?

>>85726872
They were actual fleshed out characters though. These won't be, they'll just be lesbian tranny Muslims who DON'T NEED NO MAN.

>>85726939
White genocide. You asked.

>>85726968
Oh so we've confirmed there will be lesbians, transgenders, and Muslims on the show? Can you link me to where they revealed this?

>>85726901
IT WAS RODDENBERRYS SPECIFIC "AGENDA", YOU UNEDUCATED INFANT.

Jesus Christ, pol is really a magnet for the unintelligent bottomfeeders, isn't it?

>>85726587
>Natural before
>Created during a period in the 60s when NBC was aggressively pushing diversity on screen
>Star Trek universe literally designed as an all inclusive utopia of every race and culture
>Made a point of having characters from different races and cultures all part of a homogenous society
>Had a black woman in a position of authority, boundary pushing for the time
>Having a Japanese helmsman was a major diversity decision considering post-WWII Japanese resentment
>Featured first interracial kiss on TV literally for diversity purposes

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>>85726587

>Armored Skeptic explains it really well.

>>85725554
oh

hi /pol

>>85726968
>lesbian tranny Muslims who DON'T NEED NO MAN
calm down
the only new diversity ground Discovery is breaking for Star Trek is the gay man in the main cast (not counting retconned sulu)

>>85727068
You forgot the Russian on the bridge during the Cold War.

>>85725554
>Orville

This show looks like utter trash. It's lowbrow humor. How many alien piss jokes will their be per episode? A comedic star trek show sounds great. A Seth mc farlane star trek show sounds awful.

>>85726786
>DS9, VOY
>good cast of characters
>didn't try to push any diversity

Did you even watch the shows?

how did michelle yeoh go from big movies to web shows

>>85727182
Don't forget the constant non-sequitur cut away jokes

>If you guys think this is bad you should have seen when I tried to have sex with a Gorignak on Primus IV

>>85726776
Wrong dude, I only mentioned them being female and none white.

Why do aliens even join Starfleet when they could join a ship of their own. Seems like alot of work to go all the way to earth to join Starfleet, even they would have ships of their own. Or is there some benefit like the U.S. gives to all these foreign collage students, played for school, bonus money, Et Cetra

>>85727008
Just Google it.

>>85727300
Oh so you're going to play the "That wasn't me you've been replying to the whole time" card. Moving on.

>>85727195
They didn't push enough. I wanted Hoshi to take over the Enterprise as captain and make T'pol her "number one".

>>85725554

At least the crew is white, hell yeah I'll watch Orville instead.

>>85727246
She got older and was never that big to begin with. Also Malaysian. Still ended up better than Maggie Gyllenhaal.

I want all you cucks to to know this, >>85726587, this post made me watch ST.
I wasn't planning to watch this because ST and SW are for kids, but just because of this >>85726587 post i'm now going to watch this entire show, week after week or in one go if they relase it that way.

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I hate Family Guy as much as the next person, but Seth is a huge Trek fan and I am willing to give him a chance. You can tell CBS doesn't give a fuck about Trek outside of money making at this point.

STLV has some Discovery themed panels this weekend. I might go check them out just to see how bad it actually looks.

https://youtu.be/XX--ggBxu0o

>>85725995
>tfw the alien is actually 6' tall

>>85725995
>dat lanket ayyy
How can humanlets ever compete
Also...holy diversity famuliars! i see Diverse ST keeps the tradition of never include a fucking spic ever...

>>85725686
>dissenting opinions are all /pol/ now
the irony is you're the /pol/ack

>>85727317
>Just Google it

>lesbians
literally nothing

>transgenders
literally SJWblog speculation. The lead is confirmed female despite being named Michael

>Muslim
They cast Shazad Latif who is of mixed British and Pakistani descent, but considering the actors can't even say "Oh my God," he's probably not Muslim

>>85725995
Ugh, why is the Federation so anthronormative? it's fucking 2254, so just like um no try again?

>>85727342
Confusing anon with anon is a easy mistake to make you don't need to get all butthurt about it. Thought I could have a legit discussion about lack of alien diversity but hey let's all be short tempered children it's 4chan after all

>>85725918
DS9 was shit.

>that top image
Is that from mass effect?

>>85726497
Are you kidding?
That's perfect for modern hack script-writers that can't keep their plotlines straight.

>>85725853
>two captains shown are female

dropped

>>85727783

doctor who already exists

>>85725918
DS9 ran concurrently with TNG. People would have lost their shit if DS9 aired on its own.

>>85727867
>not making a Star Trek/Doctor Who crossover called Doctor Q

>>85726968
In what fucking universe were Sulu and Uhura fleshed out characters? They werent shit until the movies.

>>85727673
Human garbage, like you, also has oppinions.
People, who have actual knowledge on the matter and aren't mad whenever a woman or a person of colour gets a leading role, have another.

But i know, you are the victim here. Fuck off, pol. Noone likes you.

>>85727888
Loved the first episode of DS9 had Picard in it and the first of voyage was on DS9

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>>85727999
Don't expect /pol/ to actually know about the shit they talk about.

>it's a pol pretends to watch Star Trek thread

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>>85728133
>But Star Trek was never about diversity!

>>85728008
>name calling, swearing, dehumanizing
yeah, definitely found the /pol/ack

Discovery looks boring. If the female captains will be Janeway-tier of evil, I'd watch it.

>>85728133
>it's a "blame the board boogeyman because you have no argument" thread

kek

Big Trek fan here, and I won't be watching it.

The lead actresses are obvious diversity hires but Star Trek has always been about diversity. Those two facts are not mutually exclusive, so to me it still reeks of pandering. Everything needs a female lead now or a black male/white female coupling. That, coupled with the visual style and design choices, including while being set in the main timeline, it's really unappealing.

>>85728133
>>85728226
Seeing /pol/ be offended by diversity in Star Trek has been the most hilarious thing ever, its almost a parody.

>>85728349
Why do /pol/tards always say "muh /pol/ boogeyman" when they're called out?

>>85728349
What argument?

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>>85726346

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>>85727667
Care to repeat that, Crewman?

>>85728474
it's like that quote about calling out jews
except it applies to them too

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>The recounting goes on to describe Isaacs’ confusion on the matter, where he at believes this to be a censorship issue. “Wait, I can’t say ‘God’?” Isaacs asked. “I thought I could say ‘God’ or ‘damn’ but not ‘goddamn.’”

>When writer Kirsten Beyer explains to Isaacs that it's not a standards and practices issue but a matter of sticking to Roddenberry’s vision of the future, Issacs quips to her, “How about ‘for f**k’s sake’? Can I say that?”

>“You can say that before you can say ‘God,’” Beyer replied.

http://comicbook.com/2017/07/29/star-trek-discovery-god/

>>85728618
>mfw the injun was mexican and the mexican klingon wasn't...

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>>85725554
>CBS streaming only
Yeah I can't even watch the new ST even if I wanted to

>>85728729
nice, godgoys btfo

>>85728729
I really wish they hadn't hired Trek book writers

>>85728729
>get paid to say something
>but I want to say something else!

>>85726399
The liberal slant that Star Trek had was hammy but not hamfisted. the conservative characters weren't 2D parodies of themselves and even when they were villains they tended to be relatable and even portrayed as noble.

>>85728786
Also on Netflix. Also torrenting.

Every goddamn thread.
>here's a link to people not liking this show
>>Reddit: /POL/!
>>Reddit: help mods this guy are pol!
>>Reddit: i sure do haet pol
>>/tv/: I can see where they're coming from with the OP. None of this really fits Gene Rodden-
>>Reddit: stfu pol
>>Reddit: pppppppppooooooooooooooollllllllllllllll

>>85728008
>ad hominem: the post

>>85729052
huh?

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APOLOGIZE

>>85729052
>here's a link to people not liking this show
where

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>>85728740
>and the frog was a limey

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Why would redditors boycott it though? My /tv/ telescreens tell me that redditors are beta numale faggots

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>>85725823
reddit would enjoy these things though, they're faggots

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>>85726602
I'm on the same boat for simply doing a new show that extends the regular, prime star trek universe, picking up where Voyager left off (at least chronologically).
What is the virtue in doing reboot after reboot and endlessly fucking with well established canon?
Fucking hacks destroyed Trek forever.
They should do a show where Neelix is the captain of a galactic catering ship which doubles as a nursery for orphaned children. They journey from the new asteroid belt home of the Talaxians after an attack from (xxx) new alien threat and are pursued all the way to the alpha quadrant to have a reunion with the old Voyager crew.
It writes itself and we get Neelix back.

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>>85728008
>oppinions
Stopped reading there, numales are truly braindead

>>85727888
DS9 didn't start the war arc until TNG was off the air

>>85729140
Literally ahead of its time...

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>>85728824

this.

they had better not make the Borg's "origin story" from the books canon.

>>85725554
>84% of Star Trek fans...

Are giant dorks that should be culled for the benefit of society.

>>85726587
>I have no clue what I'm talking about so watch this youtube video of another retard who has no clue what he's talking about
Sure thing, bucko.

>>85725995
>The man on the far left will be a sexually harassing admiral
Jason Isaacs just a captain. He's the captain of the USS Discovery, which the show will probably be about.

>two female captain leads
>Yes, I said TWO female captain leads.
>The Discovery will have two woman captains because lol fuck canon or even common sense.
Only Michelle Yeoh is a captain. She's the captain of the USS Shenzhou. The female lead is only a commander.

Why does /tv/ automatically believe whatever lies /pol/ tells it?

>>85728230
>dehumanizing Nazis
>mad

Good.

Man this is sort of what's happening with Marvel Vs Capcom: Infinite and Dragon Ball Fighters Z. Everyone is hating on MVCI because it's a shadow of its former self, whereas DBFZ is sort of the spiritual, yet preferred, successor.

I think this is kind of what happens when you put a baseline so high, as was set with reruns of the TNG Star Treks, and everyone suddenly hates anything that doesn't follow is closely. I think when TNG came out, Trekkies hated it too.

>>85727463

It's a pretty tall order but I'm hoping for something even remotely in the league of GalaxyQuest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW-NiGp1gys

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>>85728441
>Seeing /pol/ be offended by diversity in Star Trek has been the most hilarious thing ever, its almost a parody.

It would be, if it wasn't the reality on 4chan, where pol is a cancer to all other boards.

>i don't watch the series i complain about. look at the youtuber, that agrees with me.

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>>85730392
The only reason we're getting The Orville is because Alan Rickman died which led to them cancelling the Galaxy Quest TV show.

Orville looks good desu.

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>>85725686
>>85726346

You are aware that the shitstorm is driven by studios to garner interest for their Projects?


The studios post faux outrage for Ghostbusters Rogue One and Force Awakens

As soon as the titles are released the hate dies away

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>>85729052
>Don't watch Trek
>Complain about women and diversity in Star Trek in every thread.
>"I am the victim here" as soon as getting you get called out

>>85726346
>/pol/ is aids to all other boards
>/pol/acks are not to be trusted at any moment

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>>85725686
>>85726346
>>85726937
>>85727026
>>85727102
>>85728008
>>85728230
>>85728441
>>85728474
>>85730421
>everything I disagree with is /pol/ !
Regardless of the merits or otherwise of the "/pol/" opinion on the current trends of entertainment and culture, the net results should be clearly apparent.
Progressive agendas in all these forms of media are making them less entertaining.

>>85730834
You are repeating yorself.
>Post fake /pol/ story
>Show, that you don't watch Star Trek
>Still complain

Just stop.

>>85730834
Star Trek was always pushing a progressive agenda, and yet Star Trek is entertaining as fuck.

In fact, Star Trek starts to suck when it's not pushing a progressive agenda. Look at the JJ films. They focused on action, but they had no hopeful message for humanity. They had the same level of diversity as the original series, but they brought nothing new to the table. They should have pushed an agenda. Instead they gave us pointless shit that had no reason to exist. No wonder you fuckers like JJ Trek so much.

>>85725686
Sorry they're the only intelligent threads on your joke of a board.

>>85726714
>If the federation had so many alien members why the fuck is a crew always 95% human
I always thought there should be more Andorians.. Since they were founding members of the Federation and were at least as populous as the Vulcans. But I guess its hard to make them not look ridiculous.

star trek has always been about socialism and diversity.

my god you /pol/tard babies get triggered by fucking everything. why don't you start actually doing something with your lives instead of bitching and moaning every time you see a black person on screen.

>>85730834
>if I post the first pic i found on google images people will think i watch Star Trek

>>85731062
because REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>85726556
>""""""progressive values""""""
Good one. Everybody knows you pieces of garbage have no values, though.

>>85731024
Starfleet is still based on Earth and so is primarily human.

>>85731118
Donald Trump is the President. Clearly America has no values.

>>85729296
I think that's an excellent idea.

I could also see Neelix running a cruise ship or restaurant that flies to Rysa, but then Worf has to commandeer it for an important mission. They could bring back Naomi Wildman.

>>85725641
Orville is more in the spirit of Star Trek than the actual Star Trek series.

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>>85730834
>Progressive agendas in all these forms of media are making them less entertaining.
Only for you bitch nigga. I don't give a fuck about the agenda in media because I'm not an impressionable cuck who's afraid of picking up some libtard ideals like the rest of you unsocialized mouthbreathers.

I get all my statistics from subreddit polls.

>>85731287
>spells nigger as nigga
actual nigger detected

>>85730957
>>85731066
I've been watching star trek since before you spewed out of your whore mothers cunthole.

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>Caring about either of these shows

>>85731590
>triggered baby boomer

>>85731377
Whatever helps you sleep at night, beta bitch nigga. Don't be mad dicklet, weak-chinned shyts like you aren't getting your dick wet anymore because muh progressive agenda means sloots are happy to ride the rainbow cock carousel instead of settling for you brah. I don't know that feel cause I'm not a shame to my white ancestors, who'd realize this environment is prime for pulling multiculti ass, like you nig.

>>85726486

This is the first time I've seen this pasta and it already tastes quite stale.

>>85726602

See, that's the fucking problem.

These idiots don't seem to understand that their target audience won't be able to relate to this shit. I grew up with TNG and DS9 and I don't like the direction Discovery took.

It's getting tiresome seeing Hollywood try to sell shit nobody asked for or wanted and then getting butthurt when it's not successful.

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>>85731790
>a wigger
>not a shame to his ancestors
burgers truly have lost what it means to have culture

>>85731995
>wigger
No surprise you never been to misc bitchtits. Should try lifting more than a fucking hot pocket to your mouth sometime. Maybe then you'd be able to take advantage of this progressive shyt and sloots of all colors wouldnt run from your stench fagit

>>85730988

>They should have pushed an agenda.

Into Darkness was about 9/11 being an inside job. that didn't work out so well.

>>85725686
This is all you get now, not one even secretly politically incorrect opinion is given by anyone and there's always some fat cunt that immediately jumps in because it's racist to criticise a corporation's divine right to make money at the expense of anything that was once good.

>>85732197
Christ, it even types like a nigger.
Care to rephrase this? In English this time please tyrone.

>>85732288
>Star Trek is supposed to push a Blue Pill agenda
>they make a movie which pushes a Red Pill agenda
>it's the worst Star Trek movie in years
Really makes me think

>>85732396
Okay, but this thread is about actual /pol/ lies. There's no Reddit poll, there's no article being quoted about a Reddit poll, and there are more /pol/ lies spread throughout the thread, such as fear-mongering over 2 female captains in STD (when there's actually only 1).

>>85725554
I don't understand Seth MacFarlane is also garbage.

I will be watching both because for me kinocinematography is an avocation, not mere entertainment, however I do not expect STD to be up to par.

>>85727195
What diversity boundaries did DS9 push? They didn't even have an asian in the cast.
"Black Captain" isn't one since they had black captains on TNG.

>>85732732
There's not one single straight white male in the DS9 main cast.

>inb4 some casual tries to tell me that O'Brien isn't bi

>>85725554
but Orville actually looks better

>>85726937
You are a pathetic racist that sucks the cock of regressive lefty cancer agendas and can't enjoy a fictional space TV show unless there's a nigger that looks and acts just like you.
Because you're a racist, moron cunt.

Most anger i've seen is because it's shunted to CBS stream service.

>>85732782
only because bashir was such a slut

>>85732966
Let's be honest with ourselves. Your statement is true on websites other than 4chan. On 4chan though, most of the anger is about the lead being a black woman instead of a white man.

>>85725554
I haven't been paying attention to the controversy, but I still won't watch it. Voyager was bad. Enterprise was bad. The JJ Abrahms films were bad. Unless STD bucks this trend, I see no reason to watch it.

Michelle Yeoh would make a good captain, though.

>>85728729
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK

>"Why would GOD need a star ship?"

WHAT FUCKING "FANS" ARE DICTATING THIS SHIT TO THEM?

>>85733018
Bashir isn't white.

>>85732782
Obrien is gay? What about Armin Shimmerman? That dude that played Nog? Rom?
You're going to have to show me proof of gayness on all the white guys on DS9.

>>85733259
Those are orange.

Also,
>counting aliens

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You're excited for Nicholas Meyer's show about Khan's origin story right? Because more prequels is what you are looking forward to?

>>85725554
>Star Trek fans are people who just enjoy watching a scifi story about a group of cool characters solve a dilemma for the week while having some laughs and some decent drama
>new star wars is EVERYTHING WILL NEVER BE THE SAME WAR WITH THE KLINGONS HOW WOMEN ARE THE STRONGEST HUMANS
>Orville fits in the spirit of Star Trek more than the new Star Trek

>>85733288
Well they ARE white. I think. Some might be jewish.
If you mean in character, obrien is a straight white male.

>>85733384
>If you mean in character,
That's exactly what I mean.
>obrien is a straight white male.
Bi for Bashir.

>>85725641
They said there will be infighting amongst the humans.

>>85733420
>Bi for Bashir
I can tell you don't have any friends.
Hanging out with your friends when your wife is gone for months at a time is something guys do.

>>85725641
Fanfiction tier shit, like the Captain is Spock's long lost half sister.

>>85725554
>Seth McFarlane
>reddit
Those aren't Star Trek fans. Fuck your survey, you fat cunt.

>>85733489
>you wouldn't cuddle and share handies with your best friends
Some """""friend""""" you are.

>>85733558
I know this is a shitpost but I'm humor you.
Point to any point in the series where that happened between bashir and obrien.

>>85733585
Oh, they never acted on their feelings thanks to Rick Berman's homophobia, but their feelings were there. Even as early as season 3, O'Brien was hinting that he loved Bashir.

>>85725686
>Le sigh. My intelleect and understanding of diversity makes me so euphoric. Le sigh.

>>85733691
>it never happened but I can tell
So Obrien is a straight white male then.

>>85733736
Not having gay sex doesn't prevent someone from being gay or bi.

You're a virgin, but that doesn't erase your own sexuality.

When it comes to most things the forced inclusion of people/races/sexes/demographics to things where they don't belong has irritated me, but Star Trek has a history of it and I'm really used to it so whatever.

That being said, I haven't watched a Star Trek movie since that new Khan movie came out. That pretty much sealed the deal on why I wouldn't watch more modern star trek. What's the deal with this one? Does it follow a different story than Kirk's?

>>85733827
Except you can't even prove they had gay thoughts. Now get your shit headcanon out of here.

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>>85733691
yes but we all know bashir wanted to be pure for garak

>>85725823
Mirror universe spinoff when?
https://youtu.be/sfbsZRbwbJ4

>>85733879
O'BRIEN: Well, you're not an in-between kind of guy.
BASHIR: What do you mean?
O'BRIEN: Well, people either love you or hate you.
BASHIR: Really?
O'BRIEN: I hated you when we first met.
BASHIR: I remember.
O'BRIEN: But now.
BASHIR: But now?
O'BRIEN: Well, now I don't.
BASHIR: That means a lot to me, Chief. It really does.
O'BRIEN: Really. Now that is from the heart. I really do, not hate you anymore.

According to O'Brien, people either hate Bashir or they love Bashir. O'Brien says he doesn't hate Bashir, therefore the unspoken fact is that O'Brien loves Bashir. Get a clue, Rick.

>>85728729
Yeah, not a religious guy so I'm not offended by this choice, but that's just sad. It's not like it'd be the first time a Starfleet captain said 'God' to express shock. 'My God' were the first words out of Sulu's mouth when he saw the Praxis shockwave in Undiscovered Country.
Writers need to get their heads out of their asses.

>>85733967
>therefore the unspoken fact is that O'Brien loves Bashir
Fujoshi logic there ladies and gents.
Congrats for the stupidest post of the day award.

>>85731062

>Socialism

You been Forced Fascism right?

Who in their right minds would spend their lives on a starship that you have no say on and could die on at anytime FOR FREE

Old Roddenberry accidentally redpilled himself with his own concept.

>>85734071
>direct quote from Star Trek
>this somehow isn't good enough for you
So you were a troll all along.

Even Keiko says (in season 7) that O'Brien loves Bashir more than he loves his own wife.

>>85734116

*mean

>>85734071
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svc1NDFJQRg

>>85727695
I don't recall there being any human religion in Star Trek... and Siddig/Bashir was first, if no one cares about him playing Bashir why care now?

>>85734148
>>85734154
Yes the kind of love I have for a really good deli sandwich. Not the love of buttfucking you stupid fujos.

>>85726084
>athiest muslim

>>85734195
Wow, you don't appreciate people more than you appreciate a sandwich?

Weren't you pretending to be an expert on friendship earlier? I'm sure your "friends" would love to know that you'd happily trade them for a sandwich.

>>85725554
If you're a die hard trek fan and have been following all the news of Discovery, there are plenty of good reasons to dislike it.

>>85734263
>Weren't you pretending to be an expert on friendship earlier?
No?
You were the one saying I'm a bad friend for not giving a friend a handjob.

>>85734290
And now you're saying that the love O'Brien feels for his very best friend in the whole universe is the same love you feel for a sandwich.

Either you're an enormous bedridden fatass, or you don't understand friendship at all.

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This show looks fucking bad but pledging to watch the Family Guy man's sci-fi Family Guy seems like a cut off your nose to spite your face-type deal.

>>85725641
Lesbian Muslim officers and Spock's half sister dealing with being micro-aggressioned by white men while also fighting klingons in ways Kirk would never be able to, all in an experimental episode structure.

I'm not even giving the /pol/ joke version. That's what they're promoting. It's going to be the Tortanic of television franchises.

>>85734282
What if you're a live free Trek fan?

>>85734399
>I'm not even giving the /pol/ joke version.
Yes you are. There have been zero announcements about lesbian characters and zero announcements about Muslim characters. Also nothing suggesting micro-aggressions yet, that's just your own imagination.

>>85734377
>not loving a really good sandwich
I think we're done here. You are just trying to find any possible reason to push your narrative of "no straight white males" on DS9. When in reality Obrien just wanted to get away from his wife who did nothing but nag him 24/7.

>>85725686
I'm sure there are plenty of people opposed to Discovery for /pol/ tier reasons, but it looks legitimately awful all on its own. I went in to the trailer with a very open mind, but I'll never watch that garbage. Spock's fucking adopted human sister, this is pure fan fiction territory. Aside from that though it just doesn't look or feel like Star Trek at all, it screams Battlestar Galactica knockoff.

>>85734399
I heard they're also going to promote Islamic transgenderism and the retcon the Federation as having been a globalist organization all along dedicated to the feminization of white masculinity through the perpetuation of unchecked PC neoliberalist dogma.

>>85734546
Sounds legit.

>>85734484
I love my friends, and I wouldn't trade them for a the best sandwich in the world. I wouldn't trade my best friends for a million of the best sandwiches in the world. Friendship is more dear to me than my appetite.

I'm sorry you think so lowly of friendship, where for you 1 friend == 1 sandwich.

>>85734518
>Spock's fucking adopted human sister
They really are that desperate to reel in TOSfags, huh? Why did they think that would work with such a stupid plot device?

>>85734546
That sounds less likely.

this spock long lost black sister is the dumbest thing i ever heard in my life and if you actually agree with it you should seriously rethink your life

>>85734518
She was also apparently born before Spock and was genetically enhanced to fit in better with Vulcan society and environment. Only they made her "too good" so now she's strong and faster than Spock and also twice as smart. They're going full Mary Sue with this one. One of my friends works at CBS and heard the twist will be that she becomes Spock's mom from another timeline.

>>85734601
It's a dumb idea but nowhere near the dumbest.

Spock doesn't talk about his family. He never talked about Sarek until after Sarek had already boarded the Enterprise, and he never talked about Sybok until after Sybok had already captured the Enterprise. Spock could have dozens of brothers and sisters and we'd never know the difference.

>>85725641
Because the Discovery writers don't give much reason to trust their ability.

>Proudly declare that they took inspiration from Game of Thrones and will be killing off characters left and right because of this
>Apparently they don't get storytelling enough that the only reason GOT kills characters off, is because any/all of those characters' ongoing storylines are ones that can be semi-directly picked up by another member of their house It wasn't until the current season that Game of Thrones wiped out or detained an entire major house because of this
Also
>Killing off characters left and right proudly
>In a franchise completely built upon the concept of watching crews grow relationships and develop over multiple years
They're either talking bullshit, and will just return to Red Shirting, and are for some reason really proud of this revolutionary idea, or they're making a space show that is not Star Trek.

And that's just one of the things wrong with what we've seen so far.

>>85734601
It's quite a pernicious trap on the part of the Discovery writers. If a fans think the idea is stupid they'll simply paint you as a racist/misogynist. I'd almost call it clever but if it weren't so transparent and cynical.

>>85734484
yeah but if he wanted to get away he could do it in a thousands way but he spend all of his time with bashir, for fuck sake they go to the holosuites together and they're not just doing WW2 dogfight I can garantee you that. however my guess is this was purely platonic since bashir was into garak, I can't realy prove it but since you can't disprove me either I can live with my happy fantasy

>>85734675
It really is, just think about the person thats writing this dumb thing, he actually made spock have a half black sister, if he doesnt browse 4chan and wanted to fuck with us he has severe problems and is most likely a hack that put his fetishes into his shows

>>85734601
I should seriously rethink my life regardless of my stance on this issue

>>85734585
>>85734601
It's worse than that. She's going to be Spock's "superior" sister. As in the child Sarek really wish he had to the point where she has to stop him from murdering Spock in his infancy. She's literally the reason Spock exists now and also the reason his mom agreed to breastfeed him.

>>85734154
you just KNOW

So I was thinking, how, I grew up with TNG and Voyager, and I love the original series regardless, but that level of camp could never work today. Unless...

What if...

Hear me out...

Sam Raimi did a Star Trek show.

Xena and Hercules. Both were good at having serious stories and then camp.

Fuck, imagine

>>85734726
O'Brien doesn't fuck Bashir for the same reason that O'Brien doesn't fuck Kira.

Even though O'Brien is attracted to both Bashir and Kira, he isn't a cheater.

>>85733918
Badass

>>85734585
>They really are that desperate to reel in TOSfags, huh?
They are making Mudd a main character on the show, obviously that is their thought process. Yet it doesn't make any sense because visually the show looks like the bastard child of JJverse Trek and Enterprise, even though it is set only 10 years before TOS and is supposed to be in the Prime Universe. It also shows what hacks they are because even the JJ movies managed to nail the Enterprise style perfectly for Beyond.

>>85733030
>most of the anger is about the lead being a black woman instead of a white man.

Can you name a single good black actress who is still living?

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>>85734724
>>85734732
She also will apparently be the reason Vulcans started allowing blacks into their society. Tuvok's family will play into this, they were originally ostracized from mainstream Vulcan society but because of her they'll be shown to be the REAL Vulcans. Bigger and better than the original Vulcans because their skin color allows them to attract and perceive psionic wavelengths used in mind-melding, so they'll be able to shape the strands of reality through sheer will. This is the Trek universe we're living in now, God help us all.

>>85726237
I'm still waiting for the adventures of Enterprise B or Enterprise C. We really don't know much, if anything about the missions they went on. Maybe there's books but I'd still love to see a show based around those ships and that time period between TOS (movie era) and TNG.

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>>85734659
>One of my friends works at CBS and heard the twist will be that she becomes Spock's mom from another timeline
No this can't be, they are not that stupid, I refuse to believe it, that would be the stupidest thing ever.

>>85734732
I'm pretty sure she's a human who was adopted by Sarek after her parents (Earth's diplomats to Vulcan) died. There's so much conflicting information about her story though, we'll just have to wait until it comes out.

Even if she's Sarek's blood daughter though, why is that dumber than Sybok? Sarek had sex with other women before he met Amanda. It's a dumb idea, but it's been done before and therefore not any dumber than it was last time.

>>85734872
Rainn Wilson is also a pretty bad choice for Mudd since his range as an actor is just doing different forms of Dwight from The Office.

>>85733918
>YWN watch a Starship Troopers space government's realpolitik shenanigans in the Star Trek universe

I hope we at least get more Romulan stuff.

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>>85734925
It's obviously a joke post. You might be the stupidest person in this thread.

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>>85735021
ah ah joke on you !

>>85734924
In the books everyone on Enterprise B doesn't have a very illustrious career, the crew dies from a space virus and the ship is lost and never found.

>tfw we live in a universe where SETH MCFARLANE of all people, is making a Star trek Spoof that's truer in spirit to Star trek, than the actual new Star Trek show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9sKeCE8V0

what a time to be alive.

>>85735140
Orville has a better look and feel, but STD has better writing.

As bad as the writing will be on STD, there isn't one single good joke in the Orville trailer. Not even one.

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>>85734981
They are going to try and turn him into a wise cracking Han Solo-esque character and it will be painfully wrong. Mudd is a bumbling, incompetent conman who's schemes never go his way. He is comic relief, a literal joke.

>>85735140
no, it is the poorman knock-off of galaxy quest

>>85734879
They won't give them biological advantages, just moral determination advantages.

>white males are immoral faggots who break under the slightest pressure or whenever they are tested; the ones who do hold up can be defeated if we all band together as a spunky group of diverse shitskins

>>85735269
There's also a bit of a theatrical whimsy to Mudd, like the fool in a vaudeville act. This will be totally lost on Discovery, obviously.

>>85735083
i'd watch that

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>>85725686

no.

shut the fuck up with this argument. DS9 is the second best series, after TNG, and Sisko was black.

IT ISNT BECAUSE OF THE RACE, IT IS BECAUSE IT IS SHIT.

>>85725918

ds9 didnt pander

ds9 didnt have shit writing

ds9 had INTERESTING CHARACTERS

garak alone is better than anything in that garbage trailer for the new series.

>>85735411
Or you could wait for it to come out before you judge it.

>>85735339

whats the point of Mudd is he like Q?

>>85725554
that feel when fuck STD but also fuck Seth MacFarlane

>>85725995

this is unironically the worst cast ever

worse than voyager

worse than enterprise

>>85735307
It won't make it past a handful of episodes, and Discovery will be watchable. Because of the hate Discovery is receiving now, its bland adequacy will be amplified to hit status until faggots get bored of pretending and move on to the next bonfire. Discovery will tweak itself to be slightly less jewy and rope in core audiences, barely making it through 3 seasons before collapsing in a pile of HIV+ gay cum.

>>85735528
Really? Why?

>>85735083
Goddamn, that would be a amazing series, of course with internet it would be impossible to hide the ending but a crew that actually all perishes slowly in some horrible virus could be heartbreaking in a way Trek never quite is.

>>85734585
"This kinda fag shit works on Star Wars, let's do that."

>>85735493
CBS are trying to sell me on the series and by extension their streaming service and are failing. Don't pretend that you can't have an opinion based on promotional materials provided to you.

>>85730834
Stop posting fake shit

>>85735246
>one is on broadcast tv
>the 'real' show is behind a pay wall

orville looks fun, i'll definitely check it out.

also, don't they know all the star wars tv shows go by the initials, why would they call it STD?

>>85735647
Don't look at me, I only shill for Netflix (where Star Trek: Discovery will be airing this September).

>>85725554
fuck off /pol/

also anybody who looks at the two and thinks Orville looks event remotely watchable should be thrown in a fukcing oven

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>>85735325
Also males men are constantly trying to rape black half-Vulcan women with their big hard throbbing white cocks to purify their primitive bloodlines.

>>85726399
Back then it was okay because the captain, and main character, was white. Now the captain is a Jew who is not even the main character, a nigress who can't act is.

>>85725554
Rick Berman made the best star Treks.

>>85725995
god... that cast looks like some shitty fan made movie.

>>85735850
Do you think Shatner is white?

>>85726346
>muh pol

jesus you people are shitting up this site.

>>85730720
Pol is 4chan. You're free to leave the site.

>>85725554
>redditers
>Seth MacFarlane

color me shocked

>>85731062
No it hasn't and the only tards that are triggered are the lefties who scream about pol all the time.

>>85735246
id rather take the shit comedy than whatever the fuck Discovery is trying to be. because the writing will be shit too and you know it

>>85733030
She's a shit actress and black women aren't in charge of anything and I doubt the future will change that.

>>85735946
How else should we describe right-wingers spewing outright lies?

>the poll doesn't exist
>the article about the poll doesn't exist
>this whole thread is based on the lies of a [triggered] /pol/ster

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>>85725554

whut? redditors can only follow one show at a time?

>>85735566
just look at them. All the men look like fags and all the women look strippers.

>>85736098
doubtful, only triggered people I see are lefties screaming about pol. 4chan is pol.

>>85736228
Then show me the article.

this will fail miserably because:

1) it is yet another "old" series, no new material

2) the cast is shit

3) noone wants to see the stuff they already know retold, it's fucking boring. give people NEW things to see.

fuck remakes/reboots.

>>85726264

nobody said the ship has two captains

it's just less based around a single ship because its a story arc show,

you have the shenzou's captain, the discovery's captain and also a klingon captain who are all part of the main cast

>>85725554
but the humor in Orville looks fucking horrible. I get all the "its gonna be just like classic star trek" hype but it just looks so unfunny. Are 84% of star trek fans fucking normies who watch big bang?

>>85736271
The Shenzou gets destroyed in the first episode, the show moves to the Discovery for the rest of the show.

>>85736250
Promise to apologize, first.

>>85736133
>>85736322
The OP is fake.

>>85736343
I promise to apologize.

STD will not have a second season and it will probably be advertised as an anthology series.
Also MacFarlane's show seems to be retarded, but since reddit loves it, it will probably be successful.

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>>85736271
Literally the fucking post I replied to the guy said that.

>>85725554
Eh, I won't be watching either. Orville looks pretty but the humor just didn't really catch me, at best I'll watch it to spite STD. As to Space herpes True Disaster, the ships look like shit, the uniforms look like shit, the sets look like shit, it looks like JJtrek because if I'm not mistaken they're working off the JJ contract so they're legally obligated to make it look different (read "shit"), and the worst thing of all, I'd have to pay CBS extra just to see it so fuck 'em and the shit horse they rode in on.

>>85726399
It did not. Star Trek was old school leftis inclusive and humanitarian. It tried to portray a people united by their common humanity where petty differences in nationality had been forgotten.

This is in subtle contrast to modern social justice progressivism which is strictly identitarian. In SJ leftism minor differences in identity matter immensely, and commonly humanity is irrelevant or even dangerous thought, as it can be used as a device to de-emphasize identity.

Star Trek implied the cold war didn't matter in the long run by including a Russian. DS9 had an arab that you didn't even know was an arab because he never brought it up. SJ "inclusivity" would have a non-white member like Sudan, that would constantly bring up past colonialism and challenge white crew members on if they "had really moved on." "These Ferengi are just like you British before humanity advanced, commander Smith. Obsessed with money and power over basic kindness."

It also didn't try to portray white culture as negative, and the absence of western civilization as an ideal.

>>85735663
thats how little the writers and producers know about Star Trek

>>85736098
This thread is bait for retards like you. There is no good reason a /pol/ster would post a fake article when all you have to do is google it to find out it's fake. It would achieve nothing except discredit /pol/.

>>85736612
The majority of the thread is angry responses from people who were too lazy to Google. In the end, /pol/ won.

>>85736271
Michelle Yeoh and the Shenzou aren't surviving the opening arc

Like they're not even hiding it now, the latest trailer had the Shenzou getting it's shit kicked in and everyone evacuating it.

>>85725686
>mfw all the triggered /pol/ retards whining about your post

good job anon, show those newfags how 4chan is supposed to work

get back to your containment boards retards, BACK!

>>85726551
>i am a lying faggot please rape my face

you got it, anon, any other requests?

>>85736564
>would have a non-white member like Sudan, that would constantly bring up past colonialism and challenge white crew members on if they "had really moved on."
to be fair, Sisko had autistic shades of this.

>>85736657
anon, you seem really butthurt about all these negative responses to your post.

>>85736564

Imagine being this broken brained.

>>85736564
>It also didn't try to portray white culture as negative, and the absence of western civilization as an ideal.
Where in either trailer did we see either of these?

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>>85736859

>>85726084
you would think based on what Janeway did with hers starfleet wouldn't give another woman a ship for 100 years

>>85725554

It's Star Trek, who gives a shit about fucking shit tier american pleb tv.

>>85736911
It's somewhat implied by a predominantly white culture producing (partly) a story about a non-white captain. Though I like the idea of an asian captain actually, the insecurity of having another white male captain shows the hand of a culture change.

Original Trek, for all its utopian common humanity ethos, never would have felt the least bit insecure about making a cis heterosexual white male like Kirk captain, superior to Uhura, and all around one of the biggest badasses in the Federation.

>>85737265
funny thing is, because of how it's being released in America, they have a better chance of doing well in the international market (where it's on netflix)

>>85736644

>chinese captain on chinese ship

this is exactly what is wrong

did DS9 have the USS We Wuz Sisko?

was sisko a stereotype?

no

>>85737288
>Though I like the idea of an asian captain actually
Sulu was a captain already..

>>85737288
>It's somewhat implied by a predominantly white culture producing (partly) a story about a non-white captain. Though I like the idea of an asian captain actually, the insecurity of having another white male captain shows the hand of a culture change.
She dies in the first episode, and the captain is a white male for the rest of the season.

Quit projecting your own insecurities onto the show.

>>85735850
>Not knowing Shatner was JEW
fucking /pol/cucks

>>85737365
Not him, but allegedly the captain is barely in the series. It doesn't focus on him, it focuses on spock's never mentioned before now half-sister, which is why for the first episode the main ship is barely even in it - she blows up the other ship

>Star Trek, a series literally built around diversity as the very core concept by Gene Roddenberry himself, has a diverse cast

oh wow i'm so shocked time to boycott

>>85737433
I don't really understand why this is the problem. I'm just mad because it takes place around the same time as tos instead of after voyager

>>85727068
>first interracial kiss
I can tell people didn't actually watch the series when they bring this up.

>>85737332
Michelle Yeoh isn't Chinese and neither is her character unless you think Philippa Georgiou is a common Chinese name.

>>85736911
You do realize of that only 3 out 5 of the captains have been white males so far right?

>>85737693
Replying to the wrong post?

It doesn't matter, we're past bump limit anyway.

TOS - white man
TNG - white man
Voy - white woman
Ent - white man
Dis - white man

Sisko didn't start as a Captain and ran a space station not a ship so he's excluded

>>85737672

still pandering

>cast asians

>USS pingpong

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>>85737813
>sisko didn't have a ship

>>85729549
>they had better not make the Borg's "origin story" from the books canon.
The only loosely canon Borg origin is the one from the game like 5 years ago. Movie 1 Voyager probe found an mechanical race which developed into the Borg as we know it and made them aware of Earth.

>>85725820
this is good

>>85738075
No matter how defiantly you protest, that ship (or rather those ships) were only as much the focus in DS9 as the Delta Flyer was in Voyager.

>>85737825
Judging from the number of whites, that demo is being pandered to most.

Really wanted to like Discovery but the "Spock's half-sister" bit was my jumping off point.

>>85728729
>no religion in star trek
How Islamophobic and anti-Semitic!

>>85737672
>Michelle Yeoh isn't Chinese

>>85738892
Malaysian

>>85738892
She's Malaysian. She relatively unknown in China. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon wasn't even popular there.

>>85738892
lmao ARR ROOK SAME right?

Fucking idiot.

>>85739205

She's clearly Chinese ethnically and not Austroindian, moron.

>>85739205

>Yeoh was born in Ipoh, Malaysia, to an ethnic Chinese family of mixed Cantoneseband Hokkien descent

Chinese all look the same, because they're Chinese.