Is fully realistic CGI humans the last barrier CGI needs to overcome?

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This is a 3d render.

>>85643158
yes, I can tell

>>85643090
I keked when Disney said they won't bring back Carrie Fisher in CGI for episode 9. That was only after everybody laughed at Tarkin and cgi Leia in Rogue One.

>>85643158
looks like an action figure closeup

>>85643090
I don't know... Brian in Fast and Furious 7 was pretty convincing, apart from a few scenes.

>>85643176
>>85643189
It's actually a real photo. You just think it looks fake because you were told it looks fake.

>>85643176
>>85643189
Get used to it, this is the best you'll see in movies for the next 10 years or so.

>>85643090
They seemed to do a pretty good job in Captain America: Civil War with Robert Downey Jr.'s face, so I don't think it's too far away.

Once it happens, that'll be a major paradigm shift for a lot of actors. Why prop up a 9 or 10 who can barely read when you can just use CGI to enhance the features of that 6 or 7 that can really act, and nobody will be able to tell the difference?

Or, the really beautiful people can just lend their likenesses to films, forever. Wouldn't that be something?

Once the cost of producing CGI becomes significantly cheaper, I have a feeling that there will be a ton of quickly made, dime-store novel type movies produced by Hollywood, just shoved out there for mass production and mass consumption. They've already pasteurized the film scores. Now all they need to do is flatline the visuals as well.

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>>85643340
>Yeah, sure, cool
So when are we getting photorealistic lazy town Stephanie futa VR simulator?

>>85643340
As an addendum:
Why let the way your story is going in your franchise be ruined by some actor deciding to OD in a hotel room? Now you can just recreate their image and finish out the story the way you originally intended!

Can't bring the Joker back in the 3rd Batman movie because Heath Ledger had insomnia? No problem!

Does your new trilogy need major rewrites because Carrie Fisher was a bipolar boozehound? We've got you covered!

The Fast and the Furious "story" gets fucked because Paul Walker can't separate his real life from his character's life? We'll handle that in post!

You're 90% through with shooting your film and your prop team just put the equivalent of a live round into a revolver that was just shot at the star? We can give you another Brandon Lee if you just give us the time!

They've been working towards it for nearly 30 years now. They'll have it perfected soon enough. And if they go ahead and enhance everyone on screen, most people won't be able to tell where the CGI ends and the reality begins.

>>85643550
>just

>look

>at

>that

>spacing

>>85643587
Not necessarily spacing. Incomplete paragraphs presented in bullet style, like one would get with a shitty infomercial.

>>85643340
>>85643550
Your right, I think estates will sell likenesses of deceased (and living) actors to studios who will then just CGI them onto actors and stuntmen. We'll see '40s, '60s stars all sorts of things. New faux-'30s movies that are random scrambling of plotlines from the period, with actors, and locations from then. Hodgepodge of actors from all sorts of periods doing all sorts of things together. A wave of Valerian-type CGI fest movies

It'll be neat for five years and then we'll realize that the movie industry will be totally bankrupt of actual talent and just using a random formula to come up with titles and adapting all sorts of things

>>85643228
Clearly a lie

>>85643090
no
cg.beauty standards will force a never ending race to perfection until people look like fake plastic barbie dolls.

>>85643699
you're*

>>85643744
we're pretty close to the point where they just exagerate bump maps to all fuck making the model have a fucked up skin, because smooth is unrealistic.

>>85643222
The few scene is quite distracting though

>>85643340
>>85643550
You sound like a devil talking about contract for my soul

I think they should make a movie on that. A pretty girl signs away her look to a CGI company. At first it feels like a free pizza but gradually ...

>>85643090
They can make the most realistic looking person ever but it will always stand out 100% when it comes to the animation.

>>85643550
These sound pretty cool
If the cost is low I can see that the studios and producers push directors to use it regardless of the quality

>>85643158

hair always looks too soft, fluffy or light

eyes have way too much shine to them

skin looks like its slightly moist,

overall everything looks slightly too smooth to be real

>>85644453
Yea but fuck changing any of that after a 30 hour render.

>>85643158
thumbnail looks good, it's only when you zoom in you notice the shittiness

might be good enough for a cameo but that's about it

>>85643340
shit, maybe in 30 years they'll just sell the software and let us produce it while taking a cut from profits.

>>85643090
I was just so excited to see Peter Cushing again that I liked it

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if you can de-age Kurt Russell and Arnold (his 50-year old version in Terminator Genysis was decent), you can do it for other 80s movie stars

we might have a brief period of ironic action movies that panders to the nostalgic crowd

and holy shit don't even mention what will happen if CHINA gets a hand on this technology, just de-age Jackie Chan and make more movies

>>85643090
it looks fine to me

>>85643158
Looks like a Madame Tussaud

>>85643550
trying to hard to be witty

>>85644824
It works because animators literally have hours of footage of young Kurt Russell (or Michael Douglas, or Robert Downhere Jr.) to base their work on. CGI looks best when you're trying to replicate something that exists

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Just give video games a decade or two. We can already render things in real time that would be unthinkable 30 years ago.

>>85645066
Like futa loli's.

>>85645066
perfect cg in games is always ~ a decade away.

>>85645066
mario is still the better, more fun vidya though

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>>85645145
I dont want perfect cg, I just want a rough version of a dickgirl with stephanies face.

>>85645032
>CGI looks best when you're trying to replicate something that exists
No. It's literally the exact opposite of what you just said.

>>85643090
Did his family get paid for the use of his likeness?

>>85644824
they didn't use cgi for Kurt Russell, look it up.

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>>85643090

>>85645339
http://movieweb.com/guardians-galaxy-vol-2-de-aged-kurt-russell-practical-effect/

well i'll be damned, that's some fine make up work.

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>>85643158
Considering the shit they were producing a decade ago, it's impressive. We are near the end of the uncanny Valley. In ten years, I'd be surprised if CGI doesn't look 100 percent real.

>>85643158
Its an ok render, but not even better the Leia, and that used you know... physical MOVEMENT.

>>85644946
"too." Normally, I wouldn't care to respond, but when you make such a simple error while trying to make yourself seem intellectually superior, it's difficult to not point it out. It's like when people write, "your a retard," or "your a moron."

>>85646820
but your are a moron

>>85646820
"Would of" is even worse, IMO

>>85643090
>We will live to see Audrey Hepburn on the big screen again
>We can finally get that Dark Tower movie with young Clint Eastwood

What are some movies that you want to get in the CG-Resurrection future of cinema?

>>85646757
People thought that the Lotr Gollum looked a 100% real, i think we as the viewers are getting more and more sensitive with such things

>>85644688
I'd make a porno of me fucking Emma Watson in the ass for 90 minutes

>>85646975
No we were just used to shit, it doesnt take a whole lotta smarts to understand that midtown madness is shit graphics compared to real life, its competition.

>>85646951
Prime arnie good conan sequels

>>85644631
assuming this artist is a pro (which he probably is) wouldn't he have access to a swarm or render farm which would make it take significantly less time than that... there's no excuse for the vaguely uncanny look

>>85643158
Just glancing, I wouldn't have spotted it desu.

>>85647196
No, this is attainable on most medium tier pc's. You just have to put up with crashes and stupidly long render times, nobody who does scene/static renders bothers with a render farm.

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>>85643189
>looks like an action figure closeup
I take it you are referring to Hot Toys that take digital print of actors face and then somehow are able to make figures from.

Really expensive stuff but are so cool to own

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has Weta ever tried to do realistic humans? if they can do gollum and apes, they can probably do a better job than whoever did Tarkin/Leia

>>85648785
Arent they working on another jungle book movie? Maybe that boy will be CGI.

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>>85647391

Check em

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>>85643448
>>85645250
Avatarfagging is against the rules

>>85649011
Jesus christ

>>85649011
The left one is so well painted its actually creepy

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>>85649011
>tfw Some faggit with a 3d printer and a folder full of bateman is on the same level as million dollar wax sculpters.

>>85646951
Audrey Hepburn and Marilyn Monroe in dirty dirty porn.

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>>85649011
>it even has the eye nipple
Oh god.

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They were capable of doing humanOIDS
over a decade ago, but it feels like this was a freak occurrence, because nothing has even come close in the time after

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>>85648785
They have, pic related

>>85650220
Octousy isnt human face, humans are hard as fuck to do, id say we are atleast another 5 years away from davy jones level human faces.

>>85646757
The last 10% takes 90% of the time. I'd say you're being overly optimistic.

>>85643158
I feel like it's not the quality of the model, but the accuracy/dynamics of the movement that makes it or breaks it.

>>85650220
It wasn't a freak occurrence, if we did Davy Jones again today it'd look even better and you'd start wondering why you thought the old movie's attempt was perfect.

The reason he was easy to do even back then is because it's an inhuman face, so our brains have nothing to really gauge it against(not many people have seen octopuses, which are the closest thing) and because by design the face is always wet. CGI has a sheen to it that's hard to get rid off, which is why CGI creatures that are wet are a thousand times easier to make than dry ones. They knew this and used it to their advantage.

>>85643158
now make it move

>>85650932
>if we did Davy Jones again today it'd look even better
Wrong. Movies today are so cartoony. Compare 2nd pirates with the new one. New one looks so shit

>>85653300
didnt they tease David Jones return in the latest instalment?

>>85653300
The only thing that happened is that you grew up and don't have any nostalgia feelings about the new one. The waterwheel-duel was more cartoony on its own than anything in the new movie and the effects were in no way worse.

>>85643158
tarkin looks way better than this

tarkin's only problem was animation

>>85646951
there's already a cgi audrey hepburn commercial

>>85646975
No one thought that shit looked real.

>>85653778
>>85646975
but they ARE real
https://youtu.be/Ibe5Iu9QMyM

>>85643090
the only thing they still need to perfect are the animations - that's what gave Tarkin away

rest was spot on

>>85654501

You can clearly tell it's CG just from that screenshot.

>>85654501
go look at an actual picture of tarkin
they didn't actually make the cgi look anything like him

>>85645066
8 bit mario is still more fun though

>>85650257

>his head disappears into the roof

lel, every time

>>85644022
Already done in "The Futurological Congress", great movie.

>>85643090

>Seems like given enough time and money they can do pretty much anything, from dinosaurs to mass battles to talking apes.

It's because we as humans are experts at studying faces, so anything looking slightly off (eyes, skin, movement) is directly noticeable, meanwhile we are not specialists at how dinosaurs should look, and an extreme few are experts on apes.

>>85643228
you must be really autistic if you think it's real photo

>>85658853
Manlet.

>>85658853
that's common in a sport car

>>85645032
The T Rex of King Kong were flawless, what are you sayin? see >>85650220

Also, responding to >>85643340

They used John Lennon's edited footage from Dick Cavett to mix him up with Tom Hanks inf Forrest Gump so i think there will come a time when you'll see new movies "starred" by deceased actors

It would be interesting if they were to recreate London After Midnight using a CGI generated Lon Chaney. Or a remake of Salem's Lot with CGI's Bela Lugosi as Barlow

>>85650257
there are many other scenes where it's better, this one is where you can clearly tell it's cgi, anyway it helped a lot that they used his brother that really looks like him to cgi over.

>>85650220
protip: wet surfaces are much easier to fake, if he was dry it would look a lot worse.

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When the studios are gonna start selling their 3d assets so I can 3d print my models?

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>>85643158

>>85644824
REINHARDT AT YOUR SERVICE

>>85643090
>everyone bitching about decent looking leia
>nobody cares about this abomination

>>85643699
>new Charlie Chaplin films

Damn..