Remind me why this was panned again? I've just watched

pleb detected

I liked it. The end felt a little rushed. ScarJo was a little too heavy for the role after her baby and it was distracting. I don't remember the original because it's been years since I saw it so I don't know how it compares.

>>85606993
Why do you keep making this thread

>>85606993
It's different from the original source aimed at teenagers

>>85606993
It was really good desu. I thought it would be terrible but it wasn't. Guess the plebs didn't liked very much.

>>85607016
No need to announce your entry into the thread.

>>85607058
Yeah I agree about the rushed ending and thiccness of Scarjo.

>>85607116
At least I'm not alone!

>>85607116
>>85607149
>>85607207
pleb detected

>Remind me why this was panned again?

Bad writing. Pretty much everything in the movies is explained to you twice.

>>85606993
Yes.
I especially loved how bad corporation turned innocent teenagers, who loved each other into mindless cyborgs.

>ITT normies that have never watched the source material

>>85607441
>dude my deep source material for intellectuals such as myself!

>Tv show about how corruptible the govt is.

Opps can't have that in an american movie. Let's change it to corporations.

>>85607441
It's been a while since I watched it, I remember thinking it was okay. Vastly overrated.

>>85607466
>dude implying lmao

>>85607441
You mean the source material that has been changed twice, 3 times if you count the stage play.

>>85607491
And who is corrupting the government?

>>85606993
fuck off scarjo

>>85606993
disney/marvel anti-marketing shills.

>>85607565
Cara pls leave

>>85607441
>Believing the '95 film is the source material

>>85607627
>muh manga
literally no one gave a fuck about it
people remember the movies
same for Akira, Nausicaa etc.

>>85607663
None of what you said detracts from the fact the manga is the source material you fucking mong.

>>85607550

Depends on which episode at the time. Mob, Crooked politicians, Big business.

>>85607710
For this movie, animated film was a source.

>>85607663
I care because it shows that Hollywood doesn't understand why these movies are popular. We didn't need a lover plot shoved into this movie.

>>85606993
loud slander campaign by essjaydubs for "muh whitewashing"

>>85607787
Not really though, they're adaptations of one another. 2017 is as different as 1995 is to the manga.

>>85607930
Just stop.
They clearly based movie on animated film.
I bet they never even looked at manga or anything past 1st movie.

>>85607999
Sorry tripsbro but I don't agree with you. Sure they took some visuals and copied them (intro, flooded fight scene, spider tank scene) but I still stand by what I've said.

>>85608051
They copied entire film. Some parts - shot by shot.
Just dumbed down and simplified plot. Nothing else.

Btw, i still do not know what villain in movie tried to achieve.

>>85608095
The 'villain' (assuming you mean Hideo) was trying to kill the people who made him what he was.

>>85608143
He was trying to get his wife. The major back.

>>85608143
Oh. i forgot it was so simple and retarded.
By why he needed human worshippers and stuff?

>>85608189
>his wife
?
They were kids m8. Literally teenagers.

>>85608189
No he wasn't, he was literally killing those who made him. Clearly stated in the warnings he left at the murder scenes.

>>85608206
>Worshippers
He was using them as proxies

Do you people actually watch these movies or do you just sit there playing on your phone?

>>85606993
they literally turned it into a young adult movie

>>85606993
Most of the bad press was pushed by the lazy "white washing" virtue signaling. People who had no idea what the movie was about anyway. Scarlett Johansson looked like the character to me and the Japanese don't give two shits about american navel gazing issues. They "japanese wash" all the time when adapting Korean and American storylines as well as deliberately use white people in advertising because they stand out.

lt was an almost a totally superficial adaptation of the franchise, but it was faithful and captured the visuals really well.
The plot is no deeper than a kiddie pool, and the 'twist' and 'romance' afterwards felt hamfisted as hell.
ScarJo's major is too emotionless, almost like she or the director based her performance solely on the English dub of the first movie.
Overall it was alright, not 'bad' but I'd rather watch S.A.C. again.
I'd love a sequel that focuses more on the universe and world rather than the major herself.

>>85608245
>>85608265

>she and Kuze meet, and recall their past lives as anti-augmentation radicals who were abducted by Hanka for use as test subjects.

You guys clearly need to rewatch the film.

>>85608265
>Do you people actually watch these movies or do you just sit there playing on your phone?
I know it proxies.
But why? Why humans, how it worked?
It is all so dumb.
Just for the visuals, no meaning at all.

Even scene with a garbage truck. In anime they follow man, who you think actual puppetmaster.
But in movie they trying to catch actual truck drivers. So dumb.

>>85608352
That wasn't his sole purpose. He didn't even know his name or why he was seeing the glitches until the end of the film.

He originally set out to murder the scientists who made him. His priorities only changed when he discovered Major whisky she was in the Deep Dive.

I believe it is you who needs to rewatch the film.

I loved the movie for the same reasons I loved the 95 animated one:

Beautiful visuals, great setting, great atmosphere and the soundtrack (which I hope the 2017 version will finally get a release of).
Don't try to tell me the original movie had depths or a great plot.

>>85608352
Yes. They were rebellious teenagers.
They run from home, meet at this shelter and fall in love.

>>85608418
Whilst*

>>85608424
t. Patrician

Ignore these naysaying plebs anon

I saw the trailer to this movie and heard people git upset its not a Japanese actress. I thought the complaint made sense. Then I watched the movie and realized the japanese girls' brain got hijacked by the entreprise and put into scarjo's robot body. How does it not make perfect sense for the story that she wouldnt have an asian appearance? The entreprise didnt care about preserving her memories, they obviosuly also dont care about preserving her appearance. It's actually better for the story that she's a different race now.

>>85606993
Because it's okay when Japan takes western ideas and totally "adapts" them for their audience but is bad and wrong when others do the same.
At least this is a common ground where lefties "muh cultural appropriation" and no culture right wingers that have absorbed japanese culture as their own can agree on

>movie is 90% exposition
>entire plot hinges on amnesia
>rips off the Robocop reboot
>Joel Schumacher Gotham City aesthetics
>"we made you a new body (a synthetic shell), but your ghost (your soul) is still in here." This is an actual line of dialogue spoken in the first five minutes of the film.

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>>85608757
>Story written over two decades ago rips off a film made a couple of years ago

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Decent film. Best part Major & Batou friendship. Visually and aesthetically very good.

>>85606993
That face she's making reminds me of Tommy Wiseau's face on the cover of The Room.

>>85608592
It's a good point

HANKA HANKA

>>85607441
>he thinks the source material is "le reddit deep"

Ghost in the Shell certainly has some interesting ideas and concepts that pushed along the sci-fi genre as a whole considerably. But as a piece of film making it is barely good. Go tip your fedora somewhere else

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>>85606993
>Remind me why this was panned again?

numales who have never even seen the anime bitched about it before it even came out because "OMG WHY IS A WHITE ACTOR PLAYING A FICTIONAL JAP ROBOT?!?!"

>>85608757
>movie is 90% exposition
>entire plot hinges on amnesia
Yea, I'll give you these.
>rips off the Robocop reboot
This is almost as ignorant as the people as the people who say it ripped off the matrix.
>Joel Schumacher Gotham City aesthetics
What the fuck are you talking about?

Within the first 5 minutes of the movie they say GHOST and SHELL

fucking dropped

>>85609038
>someone took the time to make that
>someone bothered to save it
>someone bothered to repost it

>>85608350
Was gonna reply but this anon nailed my feelings on this film.

>>85609131

t. numale

>>85608951
the way the film foreshadows the philosophical discussion with the Puppet Master through a conversation where Motoko and Togusa discuss the diversification of Section 9 and again when Motoko sees a copy of herself was masterful story telling and I seriously doubt you picked up on either one of them.

I can't imagine how anyone could like this unless you just enjoy being contrarian. I don't give one shit about the whitewashing or SJW stuff at all, that has nothing to do with how terrible this movie was.

The tone, the pacing, just everything was wrong compared to a real movie. The characters were lifeless and uninteresting, especially Scarlett who acted like she was still in Under the Skin. The villain was the most generic evil bad guy, jesus that was bad.

The CLIMAX of the movie is a Hobbit-CGI-tier boss battle with a spider tank (which is somehow shittier than just a normal tank- can't hit any of its shots and dies from a top panel being ripped off), and it just ends. Mr. 'I'm a bad ass' asian guy just executes the villain elsewhere with no effort.

Why can't these people find a competent writer to go with their expensive visuals

>>85609395
I like it. I don't think it's good or great. Nor bad or terrible. Decent film.

>>85609395
t. Pleb

>>85607550
do corporations corrupt the government or does the government corrupt corporations? makes u think

The answer is that it doesn't matter, never allow them in a room together.

>>85609038
damn Sam Hyde is a nu-male?

I don't care what any of you say, ScarJo is hotter now than she's been since after the breast reduction.

Thicc Scarjo>MCU ScarJo

>>85609665
This tbph

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Post qt Whitewashed Major

>>85609665
She looked good in GITS.

>>85609737
>Corporation in film whitewashes the Jap to White.
dat meta commentary :)

>>85607491
this

The fact of the matter is the first fully prosthetic designer body ever produced would be an attractive Caucasian. If this really happened ,we absolutely would see people race changing, and the Japanese and Koreans would be among the first to do it. Not everyone would go for it, but it would happen and it would happen fast.

>>85607663
The best thing about the franchise is the tv series, you faggot. SAC is really fucking great, and this hollywood jew shit shouldn't get to use the same name.

>>85609841
Don't South Koreans go for plastic surgeries that make their facial features look more Caucasian/white?

Does same happen in Japan?

>>85609665
She looks terrible, dude. Her face has smashed into the wall.

>>85609889
>Don't South Koreans go for plastic surgeries that make their facial features look more Caucasian/white?
One of the most popular plastic surgeries there removes their epicanthic fold leading to a European eye shape. Personally I wouldn't want them all to do it because some Asians are qt but I like the increase in variety on principle.

>Does same happen in Japan?
Less than in Korea but yes.

>>85609929
I disagree. But I've always liked older women.

>>85607387
>this new body is like...a shell
>your mind will be in it... like a ghost

Almost turned it off right there.

>I guess I really am...the ghost in the shell
I walked out of the theater right there

>>85609841
The major shouldn't look older than 16-18, desu. I don't see why anyone would choose to look older than late teen.

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I think she looks good. Not that I watched this film for that. Part I liked most was actually her and Batou's relationship.

>>85610009
>The major shouldn't look older than 16-18, desu. I don't see why anyone would choose to look older than late teen.
Men peak physically in their early to mid 10's. Women usually but not always peak younger. Some people would choose it. Many would choose to look like made up and edited 30 year old Scar Jo and you're kidding yourself if oyu think otherwise.

>>85606993
It was really fantastic. But this is an imageboard, and people here prefer anime. I thought the anime sucked balls compared to the kino.

>>85610083
>10's
and by this I mean 20's.

>>85609889
In anime, the Japanese people almost look aryan, with colorful hairstyles. If they'd be given the choice, there'd be a hundred million more white people on the world.

>>85610083
>10's

Wut

>>85610137
I've seen the film and few episodes of the first season. The film was great, one of my favorites, yet I do still think this 2017 film is decent watch, not bad.

It's torn between being faithful and doing it's own thing. When it's trying to be faithful it's simply inferior to the original and when it's doing it's own thing, it's never sufficiently explored because of all the time spent on being another movie. That said I wouldn't say it's bad, just mediocre and I know people who haven't seen the original who have said they liked it quite a bit.

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>>85606993
wasn't bad but if you enjoyed the original's themes and ideas they were just severely dumbed down and commercialized in this adaptation. not even mad about the casting. Scarjo could've pulled off the perfect Major but I think they messed with her characterization in this movie way too much and we got an inferior version instead.

If it was the same movie but directed by Lynch - it would be considered a masterpiece.

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Fat piggy.

>>85607466
Not even the point.
People are saying it's not a bad movie, but it's different from the source material. It's not comparable.

>>85607550
the jews

>>85612746
>Ow mah laygz!
-Motoko Kusanagi

>>85607107
>>original source aimed at teenagers

clearly didn't watch the original, or the sequal

>>85606993
C'mon anon, you need to post the other poster. You know the one I'm talking about.

good movie

just finished this


KINO

gib Scarjo

Because the movie had a white lead.

>>85615904
this

maximum cute

>>85608757
this

>>85616153
Jewish, actually.

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>>85606993

Have you even seen the 1996 GiTs you prole waste of life? Jfc I don't even know where to begin. How about just kys OP

>>85616243
kys

>>85606993
I knew nothing about it going in and thought it was fucking boring.

>>85613601
>dude it had nudity this is for adults!

>>85616243
>Have you even seen the 1996 GiTs
It was mediocre

>>85611841
But Blade Runner's themes and ideas were dumbed down for the original GiTS

>>85606993
> shit acting
> alright action
> really neat visuals
> shit pacing

It was meh.

>>85606993
I with you, OP. Everyone trashed it but I really enjoyed the movie. The visuals were stunning, ScarScar played surprisingly good.
I guess all the hate came from the weaboo kids but you can never please them, cause "ANIME IS SO MUCH BETTER".

>>85606993
I've been doubting this movie. Apparently it's no longer in theatres :( I haven't seen the anime, but I'm not outright opposed to the idea of an anime adaptation.

>>85616243
>Have you even seen the 1996 GiTs
is that a japanese cartoon show? if so then no, I haven't.

>>85616998
It hasn't been in theaters for a few months now.

>>85611841
>original's themes and ideas they were just severely dumbed down and commercialized in this adaptation
>It is not a chinese cartoon, it is for grown ups, I swear
>YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
>IT IS SOOOOO DEEP AND CLEVER

Don't you kids have your own board? Nobody takes your cartoons seriously here.

>>85617184
My perception of time is warped I smoke weed every day.
It's also possible its original run varies by country.

>>85606993
Is this bait? That movie is dog shit

>>85617468
DUDE

>>85607441
The source material is garbage. I can't believe it even got a big - budget adaptation

>>85606993
Just saw it, literally moments ago.
I didn't like it.
I'm not even a fan of the anime or whatever.

Too many holograms, too many times Scar Jo felt forced or unconfident about the part, too many parts that felt flat along with the characters.

What was the movie trying to tell? You kinda get a glimpse but the it just gets confused.

Also, 90s future doesn't look full of fucking holograms everywhere.

It's like it tried to mimic the 95 movie and in doing so it forced a lot of things stylistically.

I loved the cars and some designs.

It's a "I stopped for porn three times during the movie"/10

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BUT SHE'S CUTE!!
CUTE!

>>85606993
I thought it was better than I expected. I thought it was a good, not great, movie adaption of a cult classic. In other words, they changed some things to make the casting work for the plot and I thought it succeeded there.

I did have some problems with the film, but as of right now I just remember ScarJo's walking. THAT was shit direction on the director's part.

>>85606993
because the star was a fat 42 year old jewish woman

>>85619980
and holy shit was she hot in this

fine thicc beauty prime for breeding

>>85606993
Scarjo was a bad casting choice, she looks awkward with the wig, it doesn't suit her face

>>85606993
Well you're a reddit pleb. Scarjo can't act and is a rat faced bitch.
These are /tv/s top movies of 2017
Logam
Wonder Woman
Ghost in the Shell
Split
Get Out
John Wick 2
GOTG 2
Kong Skull Island
Baby Driver
Okja

Just watched it.

Not an amazing movie but still enjoyed it.

Ending was kind of lame, but all in all decent movie.

I liked the visuals and music , also ScarJo looked qt

>You did it, Motoko! You have become a ghost in the shell!
caught me off guard desu

CGI was proper shite too

Visually, there was some really cool stuff. But the exterior shots were obviously fake, and the rainy, neon setting wasn't utilized to the fullest. I was NOT that comfy, compared to the anime or blade runner, for example. Also the writing and acting were very bleh.

What did you like about it?

>>85619980
How in the fuck was she fat?

>"I expected nothing, and was still disappointed."

This movie was shit for several reasons, none of which are ScarJo's lack of asian genes.

First because the casting and acting were terrible (Takeshi Kitano as Aramaki?). Secondly, because the world was so fucking bland and uninteresting (wow, fucking holograms. Never seen that before.). Thirdly, because it took all the "famous" scenes from the anime, threw them in with no consideration for how/why they actually worked in the previous adaptation, and thus made them all somehow worse and less interesting.

Lastly, the writing was atrocious and lacked any nuance or exploration of theme. Everyone involved in creating this script should be blacklisted from ever constructing a sentence again.

>>85619980
>>85619496
?

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>tfw watched rogue one and gits 2017 this weekend because I wanted to watch some comfy sci fi
>fucking nerds jizzed their pants for rogue one and it was terrible
>panned gits and it was pretty gud

i hope you all drown in a tsunami of the lords jizz in the war of armageddon

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>>85620213
>I am /tv/
>This is my list

>>85606993
>I've just watched it and thought it was fantastic.

Of course... it was made for people like you.

>>85621695
what do you mean... your people?

>>85617200
t. Someone who should stick with Marvel's lack of themes

>>85611841
I agree except for the scarjo casting. I thought Emily Blunt made a better Major

I thought it was ok

>>85617200
You either never saw the original or you're too stupid to understand them when you saw it. I'll assume you are smarter than that and just never saw them. I could be wrong though

>>85621531
Real talk: GITS 2017 was decent. Problem is that there are literally other gits movies that came before that are better. Scarjo is hot but was still a bad casting (from an acting standpoint, obv she brought in box office tho).

>>85606993
OP, it's not a bad movie until you realize that all they were trying to do was make a female ROBOCOP movie using the GITS IP as cover. With a better screenplay it could have been great had they focused on the cyber-thriller aspects of Stand Alone Complex season 1. Alex Garland and Charlie Brooker should have scripted this and it could have been on par with DREDD!!!FACT!!!

>>85606993
>I've just watched it and thought it was fantastic.
That's because you're an idiot, luckily for you you're in good company here.

scarjo's acting is too emotionless and robotic to play a human brain in a android body programmed to be a cold killing machine.

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Because most moviegoing audiences are impatient to wait until August for a live action adaptation of an anime done right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-InekB1LXU

>all the people thinking they are smart for liking the originals
I bet those people don't have any real education either and are the products of public schools.

When it comes to GITS.....

Original Manga>95 movie>stand Alone Complex is all you need!!!FACT!!!

I enjoyed GitS except forvthe crap-ass Spider robots...I hope the sequel is nothing more than balls-out action.

>>85622729
>Japanese thing
>good guy wears all white
>bad guy wears all black
Why can't nips into subtlety?

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>>85622729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpveUpVN9ck

also, those weebs sure do love their Tokyo Ghoul.

>>85607149
lmao fucking destroyed

>>85607387
Not just bad writing, but the movie is just such really inconsistent visually.
And its really rare for something like blocking to stand out as bad but jesus every time a character moves, even if its just walking into frame it just feels off.

>>85606993
warch the original anime, and figure it out. oh actually you cant enjoy it now, the live action is so dumbed down they have to explain every single bit since it was made for morons.

>>85606993
I couldn't even make it through the fucking opening.

>>85607544
Except the movie was based solely on 1 anime movie.

>>85606993
it wasn't fantastic but it wasn't as bad as the weebs are saying, it was decent.

>>85607387
>everything in the movies is explained to you twice.

so just like the chinese cartoons then?

>>85606993
>Remind me why this was panned again?
It's one of those anime properties that languished for 20 years in development hell and only went forward because some 45 year old jew who loved it when he was a young weeb pushed it.

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Does she ever wear this outfit in the film?

>>85625763
why would a robot/android need boobs

>>85625883
In the case of someone like kasunagi, familiarity. It's why she uses a female shell when she can easily use a male one

>>85625763
No, they don't show cleavage in Hollywood movies anymore.

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>yfw she was Japanese all along and her brain went into a white woman

>>85625987
Fucking kikes, I watched SAC for this shit.

>>85625883
Cyborg, the bodies were basically equivalent to prosthetics. Indeed they even say as much in the source material. If you had to move your brain into a fabricated body, wouldn't you feel better/less alienated with a robo-dong?

Who was the final boss in this movie?

>>85626053
I kinda wish that was what the movie was leading up to. There are legitimately potentially interesting things the movie could have done. But they never bother to do anything with those things.

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>>85608806
Your dumbassery embarrasses us all

>>85606993
cant immers

>>85626053
>>85626285
That's exactly how they explain it though.
It was a Japanese girl put in the shell that resembles a white western female.

>>85606993
But you're a virgin, OP.

>>85606993

-Batou's actor kept dropping his accent. He was a lot stiffer than his animu counterpart
-Scarjo's weird walk and trying to sound robotic.
-Insertion of the creator/creation relationship with the lady scientist felt hijacked from I, Robot. It didn't need to be there.
-Not enough time spent on the rest of the team. Togasu is pretty interesting. He's like the good cop/detective. Great work ethic and really dedicated to his job. He's non cybernetic so he acts as the relateable one of the group. It was good to see him break away from the team a little and do his thing in SAC.
-Aramaki was pretty badass in the movie but I feel like giving him a gun was the cheap way out. I liked him better as a string-puller in the animu. He was threatening at times because of his connections and strategic thinking. We never got a full sense of that in the movie. He also trusted Major and it seems like he didn't at first in the movie.
-Michael Pitt was a cheap choice for Kuze. He's such a typecast villain. I feel like the whole "they stole your life" thing was pretty typical hollywood too. No need for that kind of "twist" or mystery there. Major was a company girl and her following Section 9's orders was part of her character. It plays into the themes of how much self control she actually has. Plus she generally trusts her team and wouldn't abandon them like that.
-Motoko being an anti-tech journalist was dumb. I don't know if that ever came up in some other anime besides the 95 movie or SAC. But Major obviously embraces technology enough and enjoys being enhanced at times. Switching bodies and shit to her isn't jarring. Again, no need to do the side plot. We could have gotten some screen time for better characterization.

I hate the movie but I can't hate scarjo

I have problem with the city.
So, everything, the evil corp, the mother, the government, and the lawless zone are all in Hong Kong

>>85627823
It's kind of implied to be Japan. But there's white and brown people everywhere, and most of them speak English for some reason.

>>85627432
But I mean I wish that was where the movie ended. But it just goes on, and they act like they explored something deep when they didn't really.

>>85628416
The only reason it was even there was so that spergs wouldn't flip the fuck out that Scar Jo is playing a character that was Japanese in other media.

>>85627915
No I mean I thought it should involve more cities to be national

Now it feels like its Gotham city

>>85606993
I thought it was fine.
Not amazing, but I would watch it again and enjoy it.

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>>85606993
Probably the closest we'll get to a good live adaptation.
Up next is Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, Deathnote. Is anyone even interested in any of these?

>>85608757

>*record scratch* Yup! That's me. You're probably wondering how I became a Ghost in the Shell™
Jesus Christ, really??

>>85627525
>company literally made a hundred or so failed abominations by hijacking the brains of innocent people
>kuze is the bad guy

>>85606993
Johansson can't carry a film.

>>85607861
I didn't need the colonol to discover her previous life.

>>85630144
I mean major

the only good part was the shot for shot remake of the chase scene in the water