Why has Fellini's rep seem to have fallen off compared to

His films aged like milk

>>85581964
> and Godard
He's a joke please dont include him in the same sentence as the others.
Fellini is great. I don't like much the ultra-surrealistic direction he took in his later films, but he belongs in the top tiers

>>85582059
this

it also doesnt help that every film after 8 1/2 was ass and his only "masterpiece" is Nights of Cabiria

Because they're fun and kino nerds won't allow it.

Because he's a fat fuck who directed one-handed?

They're more fanciful, extroverted, colorful, etc. Which sort of confounds the autistic.
See also: Jacques Demy

>>85582222
>directed one-handed
what

>>85582295
>one hand on his dick, jerking off

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>>85581964

honestly, i'm pretty curious about this aswell. Often times mentioning Fellini or one of his movies gets a you a "GO WATCH MORE MOVIES" or "YOU ONLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S PRAISED BY CRITICS" response.

I can't think of any good reason for why hes not talked about other than it's maybe harder to meme about. People love meme that Tarkovsky is sleepkino, or that Godard is pretentious hipster trash and so on. It would be a bit harder to find those kind of memes in Fellini's work...

Well he only made like 5 good films

>>85582247
Unironically, this is probably the biggest reason he isn't discussed on this board.

>>85582343
>muh circus
>muh big-tittied whores with big asses
>muh Rome

did i meme Fellini right?

He's still extremely well respected. This board doesn't really talk much about older foreign movies in general.

>>85582481
the problem with these Fellini memes is that they fail to anger fans of his work the same way the other memes i listed about Tarkovsky and Godard do. Simply downplaying some of his recurring themes isn't enough to really make people mad and fall for the bait.

I really hated how he casted his wife in all his movies, she was ugly and annoying and not a very good actress

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>>85581964
I love Fellini. Some of his later films are a bit indulgent, but most of his earlier films up to 8 1/2 are excellent.

>>85582771
>she was ugly and annoying and not a very good actress
dat shit taste

It hasn't though...
La dolce vita and of course 8 1/2 are praised by pretty much everyone who understand cinema
>Today at lunch with my family
>some relative joins
>she learns film in uni
>complains about silent films
>"Today I watched this boring film, didn't last an hour, It's called 8 & 1/2
>wants to be a writer
yeah right

>>85582771
She was good in La Strada but kind of annoyed me in Nights of Cambria though.

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>>85583042
8 1/2 is literally nonstop-action compared to Tarkovsky

>tfw normies have fallen this far

>>85582361
And Tarkovsky only got to direct 7 films, maybe 4 of which are good

>>85583174
>>85583042
Fellini is the most accessible of the old foreign directors, she has no chance

>>85583323
nah every film Tarkovsky make was a masterpiece

Fellini made like 3 masterpieces, 2 good films and the others are garbage

>>85583332
well we're not american but I get what you're saying, also the fucked lip sync (or lack thereof) is pretty tough
I think Godard is easier and wayyy more fast paced than Fellini

>>85583512
Godard is just a bunch of people talking bullshit. Fellini has a lot more going on in all of his movies.

>>85583782
wannabe writers looooove bullshit and 20 year olds talking about life

>>85583512
>Godard is easier and wayyy more fast paced than Fellini

i take it you've seen the first two of Godard's movies and stopped there

>>85583884
pretty much yep
sorry anon, I'll might watch Pierrot le fou later because I bought it and haven't seen it yet
idk i'm a bit sad so probably not :/

>>85583986
well fyi here's the list of fast and "easy" Godard films:

Breathless
A Woman Is a Woman
Band of Outsiders

lucky for you, Pierrot le fou could arguably fall into that list though it marks the turning point in Godard's career where he begins to get more politically and formally radical (which turns off a TON of people)

>>85584165
I'm planning on doing a Godard marathon before I'll start film school in a few months
any other recommendations (even slow and difficult films)?

>>85584256
his major 60s films are essential:
Breathless
Vivre sa vie
Contempt
Alphaville
Pierrot le fou
2 or 3 Things I Know About Her
Weekend

those last two are about as far most people go w/r/t Godard's more challenging work

other 60s recs if you are still interested in that period:
Le petit soldat
Band of Outsiders
Masculin feminin
La chinoise

the following recs are optional, but if interested in his radical period, Le gai savoir and Tout va bien would be easiest to find, and from his "somewhat watchable again" late period (80s-present), I can rec these though I haven't seen many of his films from this time:
Passion
First Name Carmen
Oh Woe Is Me
In Praise of Love
Notre musique

>>85584256
If you want to watch some slow movies, check out Bela Tarr and Edward Yang.

Tarr is extremely slow, extremely long take, extremely long movies, almost the logical conclusion of long take cinema. Yang is quicker paced, and more enjoyable imo (visually and intellectually) but still fairly slow and uses long takes.

Other than that check out Eric Rohmer or Chris Marker if you wanna see the height of the French New Wave. (other than the more mainstream directors.)

>>85584717
>>85584783
I have some of those in my watchlist but I'll be sure to check them out immediately, not right now because it's 4 a.m
good night everyone!

>>85584783
>Chris Marker
i recently watched A Grin Without a Cat and it is simply a monumental dissection of the rises and falls of revolutionary Leftist political movements in the 60s and 70s from a mainly historical perspective, and it really seems like the Left hasn't recovered or is still plagued by the same shortcomings

>>85581964
same thing that happens with Antonioni, their films are not for virgins

>>85584783
Add Pedro Costa (specially In Vanda's Room and Colossal Youth) and Glauber Rocha (Antonio das Mortes and Black God White Devil) and you'll have REALLY slow movies.

Reygadas and Weerasethakul are also slow but nothing compared to those above.

>>85584783
>>85585498
LAV

DIAZ

>>85585555
Lav Diaz has unending movies, it's different. Those above are slow movies.

>>85585498
Am I being memed here? Weerasethacool and reygadas definitely have longer average shot lengths than Costa, despite all of them falling into the slow cinema category.
>>85583354
>>85583323
This is not a marvel vs dc thread capeshitters, you're allowed to like both.

>>85585801
Nope, Joe's and Reygadas' shots are longer but they are not about confined dark spaces, but are usually about a beautiful landscape. Colossal Youth is questioned to be a real movie, it's more like a gallery of images.

Because what makes Fellini's movies great is not as self evident as what makes, for example, Tarkovsky's movies great. To get Fellini's movies you need certain maturity that you simply does not need for those other directors you listed.
Not saying Fellini is better than Tarkovsky or Bergman, though. The three are great in their own way.
Godard is for young people who want to be all hip and cool and shit.

>>85586915
This. You cannot divorce Fellini's films from Italian post war era. It requires the sociological knowledge of italian way of thinking which was a marriage between culture and traditions and also the desire to put behind years of horror.

Think of it as James Dean's films. You wouldn't understand the rebel movies without the context of post war America. The difference between Fellini's and this one is America has put much more emphasis on media made cultural icons than Italy.

Nonetheless you can still perceive italian neorrealism in films such as La Grande Belleza. Federico, Lucino Visconti, and Vittorio de Sicca left a bigger print in cinema than you would imagine.

>>85582484

*Anymore, and that's pretty sad.

>>85582181
>>85586915
good to see Godard still triggers /tv/ like no other director

>>85586101
Watch Uncle Boonmee, that's literally a gallery of images.
Also check out Bartas!

>>85587882
>implying Godard isn't shallow as fuck

>>85588441
He's a good filmmaker, what exactly don't you like about him?

>>85581964
I love Fellini but I agree with you. Perhaps his films aren't as cerebral as some of the other directors you name. I think they're beautifully made and most of them are very enjoyable though. Truffaut is another one who is absolutely great but doesn't get talked about as much by younger cinephiles.

>>85588610
Oh c'mon, Truffaut is not at all a forgotten auteur, he has like ten films in the Criterion collection.
>>85584783
Marker is not nouvelle vague.

>>85588770
So does Fellini dude. Neither one is forgotten by a long shot, but hipsters on /tv/ don't like them cause they're too normie or whatever.

>>85581964
his movies are full of roasties

>>85588822
Maybe by one or two anons, but look at how many anons namedrop Otto e mezzo and la dolce vita as their favorite films.

>>85588191
I've watched it, and it's not, there's much more than it, Colossal Youth is on another level.

>>85582481
>big titted whores with big asses

ah but my friend that is only half the story; sandra milo and anita ekberg are balanced by anouk aimee and giulietta mesina. big titted fun girls vs the small titted serious ones is a dilemma that has vexed mankind from time immemorial and we are lucky to have a visionary director like fellini to depict this eternal struggle on film.

>>85590339
whore from 8 1/2 vs. nympho from Amarcord: who wins, and what did Fellini mean with them?

>>85581964
because he was already really popular when his movies come out, so there is no hipster ''discovering'' thing in a guy that won various academy awards

>>85587882
I agree anon, Film Socialism really was a masterpiece for the ages.

>tfw no claudia cardinale dream girl

>>85586915
>>85593160
This.

>>85590339
Finally. Someone understands the primal conflict that animates all Fellini films.

go to bed criterion shills