The sopranos is massively overrated and only gotthe hype because

>>85554661
What's your favorite tv show anon?

>>85554793
Game of Throns

>>85554661
It's overrated but not massively overrated. My main problem with this show is their decision to dedicate so much time to annoying characters.

>>85554793
I would say breaking bad is a more compelling drama

>>85554661
if sopranos came out today it wouldn't stand out as much, certainly, but that's a meaningless hypothetical since the things it'd compete with today would be far less subtle or ambitious if sopranos hadn't come out already.

true detective is 8 episodes, sopranos is 86. i'd like to see true detective maintain its quality for 80 more episodes (most would say it's failed already but i do think season 2 is on par w/ sopranos, though the steep decline from season 1 doesn't bode well)

>>85554793
Walking Dead

>>85554661
Jesus I'm glad I'm not the English teacher who has to grade your papers anon.
>that "sentence"

>>85554812
Fucking
>>85554842
Pleb
>>85554851
Trash

You guys didn't disappoint :)

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> this faccia di culo OP

Watched it last year, it aged well. Except some death scenes and the Livia CGI.

It's like Citizen Kane. In retrospect it's good, not great, but it changed tv forever

>>85554661
you mean Twin Peaks

People think Bryan Cranston is a better actor than James Gandolfini
People are tasteless vermin

>watch pilot episode of Sopranos
>Tony starts punching some guy
>ridiculously fake WHACKWHACK sound fx noise

immersion and series dropped

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>>85556116
>*breathes heavily through nostrils*

wow impeccable range 10/10 performance

>>85554661
Although both GoT and Breaking Bad has artistic merit, great emotional and intense moments etc it still isn't anywhere near Sopranos.

Simply because it's still fairytales. Sopranos is real. It is as close to a look into an actual life that we will ever get. The emotions you are left with are genuine and grounded, they are not seasons of pushing forth certain characters and secrets that must surface in order for a crazy storyline to hit perfection and deliver the goods.

The goods are delivered every fucking second in Sopranos.

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>>85556178
>>85556152
>>85554896
>>85554661
WATCH IT ANON

>>85556269
GoT has been putting out pure shite for years
Breaking Bad had a pathetic final season and treated its subject matter with comical inaccuracy

>>85556269
this. not to mention the sopranos is just generally a smarter show than pretty much any other i can think of. There's meaning in the shots and characters' expressions that doesnt have to be spelled out with dialogue or action

>>85556048

HAAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

*breathes in

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>85556152
that's the early seasons for you

>>85556455

Also, it's unpredictable. Modern television shows love to throw in their hidden messages and symbolism that foreshadow future events in the show. Autistic reddit and /tv/ users notice these details and create theory posts for future episodes, completely ruining the surprise later.

Literally all of Game of Thrones Season 6/7, Westworld, etc could be easily predicted once the details were noticed.

Only thing I remember the Sopranos doing was the "cut to black" speech a couple episodes before the Sopranos ending.

>>85554661
i just watched good fellas tonight, and i really enjoyed it. what are some other gangster movies or shows i should try, i have godfather 1-3 and casino downloading, and was thinking sopranos, but after that, i dont know any other gangster/mob movies or shows

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>>85554661
The Sopranos is mobkino, you're just a pleb. Binged all 6 seasons over the last two months. Masterful tension-building scenes like Paulie and Tony on the boat.

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I firmly believe that if you don't at the very least like and appreciate The Sopranos for being a complete artistic vision with well acted fully fleshed out characters dealing with the ups and downs of daily life in a subtle, not-in-your-face way, you have a broken brain and should stick to lesser shows like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, etc.

Never in any of those shows will you find anything that even comes close to the Finnerty coma, or Tony talking to Junior in the last episode, or Janice's last talk with Tony. Or Adriana's silent car ride with Silvio. Hell, even small moments like Tony showing up to Raymond's birthday party just to leave immediately for ice cream at home. Or Vito Spatafore being mockingly referred to as Vitto Misto.

>>85556729
The Untouchables is very decent as long as you accept that Sean Connery can't do an accent.

Underages gtfo.

Sopranos was a show of the decade.
Sopranos = 2000's
Seinfeld = 1990's
Dallas = 1980's
All in the Family = 1970's

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>>85557027

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>>85554661

>>85554793
Op here, it's Arrow.

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Did she slash her own tires?

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;_;

>>85557027
>>85557038
K I N O
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>>85557132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bgi3z4M-Mo

Great scene. Makes me sad everytime

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Silvio was so nice, always bringing gifts.

>>85557038
>let's put a dark filter on the episode so the viewers know its serious

If you only watch tv for the plot then you're better watching garbage like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. The Sopranos is pure kino.

>>85558865
It was signifying the heavy atmosphere of death. The end of the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m5PTRLWFD0

best scene in the show

>thats nice

Every tv show made after 2010 is trash

The golden age was from 2003-2008

>>85554839
Fuck off pleb

>>85558865
No that's just Tuesday in New Jersey.

I Who Has Nothing. That scene is so fucking good. Very simple, not plot related, yet pure perfection. I haven't seen any other show pull off a scene like that, and very few movies for that matter. It's some Yasujirô Ozu tier of kino.

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>>85558983
:(

>>85556855
>friend is watching the sopranos for the first time
>complains how boring it is at times
>fell asleep at the coma episode
>"meh, just another of those dream episodes"

his favorite show is breaking bad.

>>85558983
Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLrlIpoQfQg

>>85559170
I threw up in my mouth from that comment.

>>85554661
my family is Italian and I was never allowed to watch this show because it's apparently racist against us

is it true, or were my parents memeing me?

>>85559170
Its best not to bother anon

>>85554661
The Sopranos is the Court of the Crimson King of television.
Better things have come out since, but it was the first time a trashy medium (rock music, television) could be considered "art."
(No the Beatles were not "art.")

>>85559762
You and your parents are retarded fucking queers

>>85559826
Better things such as?

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>>85554661

(You)'ve earned it.

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>>85555381
>Watched it
Good. That's all I ask for

>>85559868
Mr Robot
Mad Men
Generation Kill

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Rat fuck

>>85559826
>Better things have come out since
Wrong. Only The Wire is as good.

>>85559762
Your parents probably read that in some dumb article instead of watching the show.

The Sopranos portrays a very clear divide between a small criminal minority against the mass majority of upstanding Italian American citizens. People who claim that The Sopranos portrays Italian Americans in a racist way are extremely shallow in their thought processes.

It's good, but there are parts that feels like cheap soap opera. Mainly any drama involving Tony's family. I still wish we had more Melfi ass on screen.

>>85559868
Fear of a Blank Planet, The Incident, The Raven That Refused to Sing, and Hand. Cannot. Erase are a few examples.

>>85559923
The Wire is even more overrated. After season 3 it's objectively stale to bad.

>>85559969
>this show is good but it could be better with more ass shots

these are the people that post on this site

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One thing that bothers me:

Why is his name Jimmy? That doesn't sound very Italian. It sounds like a white person name.

>>85559993
You misread my comment, and even if you didn't, to be surprised at that only means that you're the one out of place here.

>>85560013
>defending having a broken brain

imagine Sopranos without Tony's homelife. It would never work.

>>85559998
Parents probably didn't want him to have a goomba name like Giacomo so they called him James.

>>85560049
Tony's homelife isn't the problem, the way it's handled is the problem. You can make good family drama without making it look like soap opera.
You really should stop reading comments while trying to find a way to get offended. It clouds your judgement and affects your reading comprehension.

>>85559989
Season 5 is mediocre until the few last episodes, but season 4 is just as great as season 3.

>>85560098
Oh yeah you just opened up my mind real good, thank you sir

>>85559998
Why just Jimmy? All their names are anglicized versions of latin names.

>>85560119
Season 3 is passable, season 4 is a waste of time with all those annoying kids.

>>85559208
Wrong again. But close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_peSCECc4I

>"When I came in one morning your head was half in the toilet. Your hair was in the toilet water."
>"Disgusting."

>>85560098
is this soap opera to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6E7Z1dNv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP6GbPBUVnk

>>85560129
I can figure out the Latin roots of all the other names? What is the Latin root of "Jimmy?"

I am from Asia so I don't know all Christian names.

>>85560161
wrong as well

this scene sums up the whole fucking show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb7SWFgSf7o

>>85560159
You're out of your mind. Season 3 and 4 are the greatest tv ever made.

>>85560167
Bonus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdq_EfSfhrg

People love confusing soap opera and family drama. One isn't always the other.

>>85560167
>two scenes out of dozens of hours of content
Don't do that.

>>85560210
>what is an example

you want a 12 hour compilation of great scenes?

Don't do that.

>>85560191
I both love and hate Tony here.

>SACRE BLEU
>WHERE IS MI MAMA

What a raging, petty cunt.

>>85560181
Jimmy is short for James, which is anglicized from Iacomo, and italians use Giacomo.

>>85560204
No joke. Once saw Late Autumn with a friend. He didn't like it. He thought it was a soap opera.

>>85560224
People tend to say that while Tony was being a complete bottom of the barrel cunt in that scene, Janice still deserved it for literally abandoning her child.

While the above is true, the real victims in that scene are the kids. There is no reason for Tony to do that in front of Bobby's kids.

>>85560210
Can you give examples of soap opera quality scenes in the show?

>>85560210
lets hear your side

find some terrible soap scenes

>>85560261
>>85560278
finn and meadow fight like retards in their steaming apartment for 20 minutes after finn made chili con carne

what kind of retard makes chili on a 200 degree hot summer new york day

>>85560259
Yeah fair point, Janice isn't exactly a sympathetic character.

She might have improved herself and not been such a cunt to Bobby's kids. Sad really, I really feel for those kids, to have a relatively nice mob dad and then for him to die and be stuck with that bitch.

>>85559762
my family is italian and had me watching goodfellas at the age of 5. Your family is just over-sensitive.

>>85560196
Season 4 would've worked better as a standalone show. They taking McNulty from the spotlight really was a turn down.
The series lost a lot of steam after season 2, but that's a personal opinion.

>>85560324
The real victims of the last episode of the show are Bobby's kids. The last scene with Janice is literally her saying that she won't even try any more with Bobby Jr and that "maybe" Sofia she has something with.

If this was a good universe, Janice would have been shot and Bobby would be there for the kids.

>>85559762
your parent's would like the character of dr melfi's ex husband

>>85560234
Thanks. These days Christian names are popular in my country but I still don't understand them all.

Will Jr. remember where the money is and have it go straight to Bobby's kids or will Janice once again poison everything around her?

>>85559762
Your parents are like those faggy friends of Carmela's parents, during the birthday party.

>>85560224
He's known her all her life, and what a disingenuous manipulative cunt she is, so he's calling her on her bluff by doing something he knows will get her goat.

>>85559762
This is a bad opinion to have. It shows a really narrow thought process.

The Sopranos doesn't glorify crime or the mafia. It shows them in a very true light.

Tony is a terrible, terrible person, and the show shines the spotlight on how awful these people are.

>>85560429
>will Janice once again poison everything around her?
Bingo.

>>85560462
I know, but still a major dick move. He was incredibly jealous of her "improvement", disingenuous or not.

He could have not done anything and given Bobby's kids a chance at having a quarter-decent mother.

>>85560485
that's way to complicated

the sopranos is just racist show against italian americans

>>85560422
The most common stem from the 12 apostles and some of the major saints, but some people go full pre-Jesus saga and use names such as Abraham.

>>85559998
You dont consider yourself white?

>>85560485
Well aren't there enough shows and movies about how awful Italians are?

When's the last time there was a production with an Italian hero? Not a gritty anti-hero--somebody you actually look up to.

It seems that those roles are always played by blue-eyed men. desu it's kind of sad how even in the 21st century we're still discriminated against to this extent.

>>85560565
Does any of the Rocky movies count?
There was the recent Rocky VI and Creed.

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FUCKING QUEERS

>>85560531
This makes my colon convulse.

>>85560565
Maybe I didn't articulate properly. The Sopranos shows how bad these criminals are, not Italian Americans as a whole.

>When's the last time there was a production with an Italian hero? Not a gritty anti-hero--somebody you actually look up to.
Erm....how about Rocky Balboa?????

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>>85554661
>Game of Thrones faggots, my arch nemesis

>>85560191
How can someone legitimately think Breaking Bad hold a candle to The Sopranos after seeing a scene like this.

>>85560704
Requesting the Bin Laden 9/11 one.

Please.

>>85560724
rememebr when walter white threw the bomb on the floor and then tuco was like wow you are cool here take the money

that was a cool scene becuase walt won with science

>better shows like "true detective"
Massive pleb. Kys

>>85560749
>>85560724
You're both being unfair. Sopranos is obviously better, but BrBa is up there with the GOATs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4EpX_CUr6I

>>85554793
Rick and Morty

>>85560816
a few good scenes does not a good show make

>>85559170
Had the same thing happen to me. Fuck this gay earth. He loves Vampire Diaries and Suits.

>>85559762
They're a bunch of pussies

>>85560846
As said earlier, it's just an example. I can't post the whole show.

I do accept that BrBa has it's downsides, however.

>>85560816
I really, really like season 3 of Breaking Bad. It's not at the level of The Sopranos but it's pretty damn good. Everything else is just a neckbeard fantasy trip. It's enjoyable, but it's hardly great art.

>>85554839
The stupidest opinion I've ever read

>>85558865
>What is overcast

>>85557027

>vito and paulie are always sunning themselves
>both turn out to be gay

coincidence???

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>tfw watching sopranos with the lads weekly and you've only got a couple of episodes left

>>85561061
Don't stop believing

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>>85561042
>paulie
>gay

>>85561042
Turns out vitamin d, makes you crave the D.

Sopranos was great but I never got to watch the ending, every copy I download has the end of the last episode cut off. Anyone has a good torrent?

I'm watching Sopranos for the first time and there's only left 4 episodes left. ;_;

>>85561130
Are you me?

>>85561145
Yes.

>>85557132
>Where were you when I was lonesome?

;__;

>>85561105
>never married
>only has a goomah to keep up appearances
>extremely insecure
>constantly making gay jokes about the others

cmon now

>>85561241
You forgot:
>hanging a painting of your boss in a kinky uniform

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>Forget it Butchie, it's Chickentown

...the writing really went to shit in the later seasons.

>>85561314
It was always kinda shit.

>Don't you realize that we're the Sopranos™, AJ?

Really, Chase?

PUERTO RIICAN WHOOO-ORRRREEEEE

>>85561121
nice try fbi

>>85554839
>their decision to dedicate so much time to annoying characters.
I can understand this. Why they kept Ralph alive for so long and killed Tony B so fast still makes me mad as hell.

>>85561392
>Tone I don't know about this
>What are you worried about? Don't you got yourself a gun?

This was when I dropped the series desu

>>85561463
Ralphie never killed anybody important.

>>85554661
Still lol every time when Patsy and Burt try to intimidate the Starbucks kid.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gsz7Gu6agA

I thought this scene was kino-riffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3x1yBU4ak

Very telling how Tony reacts vs how other mobsters react.

>>85561463
That was the whole point, what makes it good.

Tony B was the only one with a brain and the potential to go straight but he ends up making mistakes and falling back on the crime.

Ralphie is a sociopath and the perfect problem for Tony.

One is supposed to be liked and go away, the other is supposed to be disliked and has to stay.

>>85561495
I'm not talking storywise, but the writer/producers decision to give Ralph way more time than Tony B.
But that's just me loving Buscemi.

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imagine being this wrong

>>85561539
That makes sense, but still made me enjoy the show a bit less.

>>85561530
she was a hoo-er!

>>85556855
>Finnerty coma, or Tony talking to Junior in the last episode

patrician spotted. I use these types of scenes (especially the coma) as a pleb filter

>>85562299
I used to have long talks with another Finnerty partrician on this board a few years ago. Haven't seen him post in a while.

>>85554661
the scenes of tony's kids are truly garbage, even the scene where his daughters boyfriend gets whacked isn't as satisfying as it should be.

otherwise there's a lot of greatness in the show

>>85557132
>>85557399
>>85561185
I cant even watch it. I watched the series at a very hard time in my life when I felt very alone and devoid of hope for my future. Everything about the scene. The music, the expressions on Gandolfini's face, the beacon of light. Fuck man

>>85562326
F-Finnerty bro? I never left, just been trying to stay away from Sopranos stuff to desensitize myself to it as much as possible so I can rewatch relatively fresh

>>85562355
AJ is pure kino

literally every line of dialogue is comedic genius.

>>85562621
Yeah it's me. Sometimes I wonder how many people actually post on this god forsaken board.

I've been listening to the No Fuckin' Ziti podcast while doing a rewatch. It's therapy for any hardcore sopranos fan. I've even written in a few times and they've answered a few of my questions.

>>85562355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIToG4B2f2c

AJ is so dumb, every scene with him is funny

>>85559998
It's called being from Jersey. Are you a non-American?

>>85562679
Nice man. I listened to one episode of that podcast, I think the first. I plan on listening to more when I start my next rewatch. Maybe around this Christmas.

Do you read fiction leisurely? Wondering if you have any recommendations. I'm finishing blood meridian now and about to start infinite jest but will highly consider anything you may recommend.

I remember you recommending Mulholland Drive (which I enjoyed a lot) and Blue Ruin I think (which I never got around to).

Yeah there don't seem to be many people on this board at times. It does seem like there's a little resurgence of Sopranos threads though.

>>85559998
Italians are white.

>>85559998

my dad's nickname amongst his family is Jimmy, they're all italian and I never understood it

>>85562806
I do read quite a bit. In fact, some people have accused me of being the pynchonposter in the Twin Peaks threads, but there is no evidence to support that accusation.

I read Infinite Jest a few years ago. Honestly I don't think it's very good. David Foster Wallace was obviously a smart guy, but you can really tell that Infinite Jest was long for the sake of being long, which in itself is a theme in the book. If you like Blood Meridian, check out The Border Trilogy. The Crossing (2nd book out of the three) is easily one of McCarthy's best. I don't know if you've read any Pynchon, but I have this chart for him if you want it. He's the author I enjoy reading the most. I finished 2666 a few weeks ago and that was fantastic. Under The Volcano by Lowry I really enjoyed as well, prose off the charts. Far Tortuga by Peter Matthiessen is one of the best things I've read in years. I can keep going if you want.

>>85559921
>Mr. Robot
Get the fuck out

>>85562832
Hahaha...

>>85562832
>

>>85560565
I'm sure there's plenty of Italian movies with Italian heroes.

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>>85556269
>GoT has artistic merit, great emotional and intense moments
Jesus Christ, being this fucking young.

>>85562995
post pynchon chart

>>85563483
Well Italians aren't discriminated against in Italy.

Name one American movie that portrays Americans positively.

>>85563802
Birth of a Nation

>>85554661
It's the only show I can enjoy watching once a year.

>>85563918
Same, but Band of Brothers as well

>>85557038
need HQ version of this for a wallpaper

>>85562995
fuuuuuck don't tell me that Finnertybro, I bought infinite jest because I think it'll take longer to read than the duration I can rent it from the library for. In a thread on /lit/ where people posted songs and had books recommended to them, I posted "the big ship" by brian eno (appeared at the end of a film about DFW called the end of the tour) and someone recommended Mason & Dixon by Pynchon. I'm not American but hopefully it'll still be a good read.

To keep things on topic, how f good was the use of music in the sopranos? I heard that song at the end of the episode where they're at the funeral for Jackie Sr. in season 1. Such a 90s feel to that song.

>>85564286
Don't sweat it. Infinite Jest is worth reading just so you are in with the /lit/ canon. If you've never read Pynchon before, don't start with Mason & Dixon. Start with V.

Sopranos has the best use of music that I've seen in a tv show. So many memorable endings are made with the music. Chickentown, I'm Not Like Everybody Else, etc.

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>>85556855
>Finnerty coma, or Tony talking to Junior in the last episode
I'd add "Walk Like a Man" to this

>>85565716
Yes, I sometimes forget that one, but you are very right.

>>85559762
Are your parents in waste management business?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtIr7lKZd8

;_;

>>85566153
yeah that's tough to watch, especially after her little daydream

>>85556855
Or
>Tony looking at his war general painting right before deciding to kill Tony B
>Chris watching some family at the gas station right before deciding to bail on Adriana

It's these silent moments that make the show ascend to high art.

>>85566423
The family at the gas station was maybe a little on the nose, but I do agree. So many other shows just fail to capture moments like these without doing it as some grand "super profound rite?" overdone thing.

>>85557038
Such a haunting shot.