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Aliens almost didn't get made because of the Brits'

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>James Cameron almost had a mutiny on his hands that threatened the entire production. Aliens was being shot in England at Pinewood Studios, who provided unionized workers to work on films that were being produced. Tensions began almost immediately, as the British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days. Cameron was also confused by the British workers insistence on having tea breaks and Bill Paxton would later say that the workers would often head to the pub during lunch to down a few pints, likening the practice to if there were fully stocked bars on Hollywood sets. Ridley Scott also had slightly more respect because He was British and Cameron was American descent.

Really makes you think.
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>>85529529
>as the British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days.
How the fuck is this even human?
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>>85529529
Tea break also covers smoking, pissing and anything else you find to waste 20 minutes of the bosses day to be fair.
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>>85529784

Lol, good point anon.
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>>85529529
Something similar happened to Kubrick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JwAnMUavzA

These brit cunts refuse to work without their nasty tea.
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>>85529529
>He was American descent.
he's a fucking canadian. he's part of the commonwealth. he's literally a britbong
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>>85529529
Gee, who wouldn't love to work 14 hour days?
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>>85530203

Still I understand OP's statement. Kinda of shows how weak and low stamina British people are.
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>>85529529
>as the British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days
Why are britbongs so weak?
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>>85529784
this

Where do you think we get our banter skills from anyway? No wonder yanks have such a poor sense of humour, you're not allowed to do anything other than work

Also daily reminder productivity in the US is FAR below Western Europe
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>>85530328

I think it's mostly that they don't suck each other off themselves like Americans do when it comes to labor. Americans love talking about how much they work, how little time they have to spend with their families, how taxing the job is on their bodies. As a casual observer it feels like a completely different world.

Maybe that's one of the reasons Americans don't live quite as long? It's got to at least be a factor, right?
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>>85530460
I'm British and you make me feel sick

>where do you think we got our banter from

You ain't got no banter you retard
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This is why the nips are our true greatest ally. No one will ever understand America like the country we bombed and then rebuilt from nothing
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>>85530507
LMAO!
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>>85530005
>MUH TEA BRAKES
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>>85530726

Also Americans are better at taking care of their teeth :)
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>>85529637
14 hour days are standard when you make a movie. That's why the U.S. film industry is heavily unionized for fair wages.
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>>85530460
Productivity of what? America is a technology/product based economy. What is western Europe "out producing" us on?
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>14 hour shifts

is this on alternating days or something? I can't imagine having to work 12+ hours for more than a few days straight
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>>85530986

Fucking weakling...
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>>85530986
No. See >>85530876
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>>85530986
>>85530876

This is untrue. Standard is 12 on 12 off.
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>>85530507
They aren't bragging about working a lot, anon, they are complaining
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But it did get made and the tea breaks - which apparently played a part, hence the thread - helped to create one of the best action movies ever. NEXT!
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>>85530460
western yurop's economy is shrinking, bud. the only economic powerhouse is germany
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>>85531115
Standard for what field? It's not true in the film industry.
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>>85531214

And how would you fucking know anon??
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I've heard a similar story with a movie shot in France. Forgot which movie it was though. Ring a bell with anyone?
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>>85531291
Makes sense the French can't have a taxi strike without trying to rerun the revolution.
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>>85531259
Because I'm a lowly PA.
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>>85531367

Production Assistant? I'm confused.
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>>85531461
guessing he means personal assistant
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>he doesn't work 27 hours a day
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>>85530460
>banter skills
>skills

Sure, Ameriboo.

Sure.
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Meanwhile in America
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>>85531367
You're working crap jobs then. I do G&E work with friends in local 728 and 80, and while the union offers rates for hourly, daily (8hrs), and weekly (40hrs), any reasonable commercial comp or narrative is gonna be based on a 12 on 12 off schedule. Anything beyond that and it gets into OT/Second Meal and production doesn't really want to deal with that.

Some Post houses work on a 12 hour day, but most are 10. No idea what pre-pro works, probably 8 hour days, the affluent bastards.
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Why work your life away? To make money for people who will try and export our jobs anyway?
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>>85529637
thats normal dude. when i was doing PA work on movies a few years back everyday would be basically a 12 hour workday.
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>>85531461
>>85531493
>>85531547
Yes, production assistant. Living "the dream" here in Los Angeles.
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>>85530518
Obvious Yank is obvious

Your burger is showing m8
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>>85530962
Culture and civilisation

We gave the world Shakespeare, democracy, and the greatest pieces of classical music ever heard.

You gave us fast food, cheese in a can, aaaand...what again? Oh, that's right. Billy Ray Cyrus.
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>>85531597
neat another PA angelino here.

dont do PA work anymore (work in Beer now lol) but last job i did was horrible bosses 2
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>>85530328
Low stamina sure, but they can hold a camera and point it at whatever James Cameron wants. British people have been known to make movies historically speaking, so it should be possible at least.
Americans only recently have the concept of work/life balance, since the protestant work ethic told them that they should work all of the time, or they would go to hell.
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>>85531777
Beer industry seems pretty cool. I complain but there's no way in hell I'd ever want to move back east. LA is the best city in the world as far as I'm concerned.
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>>85530328
>Kinda of shows how weak and low stamina British people are.

That's why Hollywood is filled with british actors, directors, writers, cinematographers and composers that regularly outperform their american counterparts, because they're "weak" and "low stamina".
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>>85530876

See, the thing is, the Brits don't make movies that way. They work normal working days.
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>>85531525
>needing the government to write your contracts for you
Why is the rest of the world so shit at negotiating employment?
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>>85531552

Film is an art that got corrupted and turned into a business by Jews.

There's still a lot of directors, and actors, that treat it like an art, and are willing to commit the time it takes to do the job right, regardless if it means filming all day and night. Sadly, they are forced to work with union scum that don't give a shit about the project and are just there for a paycheck.
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>>85530203
I'll gladly take 14 hour shifts working on a great film. Sign me up.
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>>85531772
Bro, you make me laugh.
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>>85531968
Without unions they would be working 24/7, while mister Smecklestein counts the money they make for him.
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>>85532059
>not a lot of movies are shot in the UK
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>>85531876
yeah feel that. im from SF but cant afford to live there anymore.

moved here like 7 years ago and went straight into PA work. was getting consistent set and office PA work but after a couple years I got overwhelmed with it. the long days were a big factor and made me and my then live with gf have problems

so i quit and started a casual job in beer. do miss being on set though. even if it is fucking up a specific sandwich order from Lemonade and being yelled at by some cunt AD
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>>85529529
>British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days
Is there anyone in the world that's fond of 14-hour shifts? What the fuck, that's inhuman.
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>>85532058
>Without unions they would be working 24/7

And?

How do you think Mr. Smecklestein has managed to eliminate competition and monopolize the industry? By employing UNIONS to harass the fuck out of anyone that doesn't use union labor, that's how. That's why there aren't more independent films, because it's harder to get the cash to pay union retards than it is to pay salary workers that will actually give a shit about their jobs.
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>>85532100
you're right that was retarded of me to say, I take it back
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>>85529637

They only work 3 months a year rather than 12.
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>>85532253
Only in America.
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>>85532253
In the US, it seems like everyone I know is on some pain Olympics shit. Every SINGLE PERSON, if I tell them it sucked working say, 6am to 4pm, then coming back at 10pm to cover a shift until 7am (24/hr restaurant), the response is ALWAYS the same
>that's nothing!!
>spins a story about working 48 hours straight

Every time
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>>85532413
Wow. I must be lost. Is this /tv/?

Nice one m8
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>>85532253
dont work in film then. thats pretty much standerd
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>>85532508
>Only in America
>the most powerful nation on Earth
Really makes you think.
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>>85532347
>unions are good for mr shekelberg
Nice delusion. Unionized countries (like Norway) have the best worker welfare in the world, and unions stop mr shekelberg from doin whatever the fuck he wants. If it werent for unions, shitty immigrants would take every job by accepting low pay. Unions stop that from happening. In murrica however,you allhave to work slave wages and hours to afford rent for a 10m2 cupboard
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>>85531115

there are plenty of productions that do 16+ hour days

it's easier to hide money in the budget in OT than in shooting days, so people are willing to do a 30 day schedule with insane OT instead of a 45 day schedule with 12 hours because it's the only way they can actually get production going
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>>85530986
I worked 14 hour shifts in a sausage roll and scotch egg factory last year, did get tea breaks though.
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>>85532743
The average American makes seven grand more per year than Norwegians
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>>85532822
I used to work at a logistics center doing 12-13 hour shifts (5pm - 6am) hands down the worst job I ever had, despite the pay being solid.

>>85532520
Everyone does that though
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>>85532733
>Unironically thinking that the USA is anything more than a slghtly developed third-world country
You can't even afford a fucking kettle.
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>>85532743
>have the best worker welfare in the world

Then why didn't they dominate the western world after WW II?

You pussies are just afraid of freedom, because freedom means you are free to FAIL just as much as you are free to succeed.

You're a slave, and a coward, as is your entire shitty yuronanny nation.
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>>85533085
Any job that involves working at a "center" of any kind is going to be awful.
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>>85529529
Tea breaks are literally mandated by law.
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>>85533108
Are we supposed to believe that?
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>>85533108
Yes I can, it's just that tea is barbaric.
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>>85533108
American "poverty" is literally equivalent to the median income of most of Europe.
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>>85531199

Go to bed Donald, the big boys are talking.
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>>85532949
>>85533144
>american arguments
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>>85533374
How horrible it is that Americans bring real numbers to a debate, when clearly we should just be using hyperbole.
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Everybody that wasn't lazy, or a coward, left Europe for the new world long ago.

The rest never had the balls to separate themselves from the Queens' tit, and are still sucking on it today.
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>>85533461
Only lower class trash left europe.
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>>85533144

You genuinely are fucking delusional and brainwashed, kek. You aint shit pal, you are literally nothing and nobody.
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>>85533446

The seven grand extra you instantly have to give to insurers so if you get an ingrown toenail you don't get a hospital bill for 25 grand, or the seven grand you put towards three months of college for your fatass spawn. Both of which cost Mr Norway fuck all... that and a million other examples.

You yanks are the biggest cuck pussys in the world and don't even realise.
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>>85533698
That's why the US ranks higher than every individual European country on Purchasing Power Index, right?
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>>85529637

Yeah, imagine actually having to work
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>>85530552
To be fair Japanese workers are actually surprisingly lazy.

They work long hours but they don't actually work all that hard during those hours.
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>>85531937
And yet you have a minimum wage.
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Are Americans genuinely not entitled to get any breaks?
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>>85533799

Kek, thinking this matters for universal healthcare and free higher education, holy shit man.

No you are right chief, carry on, land of the free...to be fucked by any corporation and company as they see fit, or, you know, just die.
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>>85533799
Unless I'm looking up the wrong stats they don't though.

Gimme some of them juicy stats.
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>>85534175
>literally the only two areas where americans pay more than europe
>coincidentally the only areas the government is heavily involved in
you make a convincing argument for handing over 60% of my paycheck
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>>85534275
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp
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>>85534327

7 grand is 60% of your pay check...holy fuck man.

And yes, the oooonly two, hah, ok. I'm done, you're an idiot, play a record.
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>>85534433
Grazie.
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>>85531115
Are you thinking of SAG? Because SAG has the mandated breaks and "can't start until X" like the FAA does but I am not sure IATSE etc. have the same deal worked out.
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>>85530460
>muh banter
you don't have banter you have snobby, underhanded remarks that you needle people with and then get pissed off when someone calls you out on it. buncha passive aggressive faggots
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>>85534175
I'm surprised you can stay off the queens' tit long enough to actually type something....

Well done, Nigel.
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>>85529529
>tfw born in america
>I will never get drunk at lunch with the lads and make movies
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>>85533820
>playing pretend
>actual work
lmao
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>>85534944
>mfw people born near me don't get drunk at lunch with their work pals

Letting the industrialist oligarchs win, comrade
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>>85529637
I've directed two movies, both shot in Czech Republic. 16 hour days were the norm. International films with bigger budgets routinely go even longer than that.
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56%
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>>85533698
>yanks are the biggest cuck

Careful Nigel, or you just might find out that you've got a little "yank" in you too. After all, British bitches were fucking U.S. G.I.'s left and right during WW II, since their own men couldn't protect them, or provide for them. Your grandmother was probably taking G.I. dick like all the rest of them, and accidents do happen you know.

Cheers.
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>>85535144
>this kills the american
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>>85530876
>unionized
I read this as un-ionized. BASPINGE!!!!!!!!!
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>>85535231
>>85535144
>>85535231
>Europeans' face when they realize what the white ethnic percentage would be if their populations were measured on the federal level
Western Europe, as a whole place, is probably teetering under 75% right now. And that's being extremely generous.
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>>85535524
And that's still much more than 56%
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>>85535610
In a shorter span, starting from 100% homogeneity. Your rate of demographic decline is faster than ours, and the white majority in America has always been relative to the region being assessed. Violently deporting millions of mexicans and indians for 50-75 years without interruption produces a rolling 90% white 'majority', but without the sustained repatriation efforts the actual proportion of white people to injuns they might encounter from day to day over the course of their lifetime is not much more than a clear majority for the 20th century. Only the north eastern united states has witnessed the precipitous collapse of white demographics that Western Europe is currently experiencing across the board.

Americans have a long term survival pattern for this ethnic dynamic, but Europeans do not.
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>>85529529
Is this the rumored bonus situation?
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>>85530962
>What is western Europe "out producing" us on?
Muslim immigration.
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>>85530986
No. And its probably seven days a week for the duration of principal photography.
And even then, most of the time you're just standing around.
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>it's a thread about Aliens, one of the coolest blockbusters of all time with several good memes to boot
>it turns into debate about economics and immigration
and people think the /pol/ cancer isn't something to worry about
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>>85535166
>>85534933

Touched a nerve did I lads, enjoy being fucked by every company that fancies it whilst Leeroy fucks your missus.

I'll enjoy a beer tomorrow lunch, hell I might have two and still go back to work. Holy fuck, a social life and a job, who knew that shit existed.
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>>85537666
your insecurity is showing. now shut the fuck up and talk about movies or I'll swim to your shitty island and kick your ass.
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>Americans on working
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>tfw lived in both countries, North and South UK and East and West US
>most of the US looks like this

Honestly, I love the States but I'm glad my side of the family moved back to the UK. It's genuinely more developed as a nation.
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>>85537839
>euroshits invent communism because they're too lazy to work
>government has to baby them
laughable
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>>85537666
>can't handle the bantz
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>>85537973

>US Government pays billions in welfare to staff of places like Walmart
>Worker-Drones complain about taxes and poor people on welfare, but not about corporations taking them all for a ride

Enjoy your week off this summer mate, don't waste it.
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>>85538104
Just lol at american delusions.
I've seen low class people from my country going to america for holiday.
You have to be upper middle clas in america to do the same.
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>>85538241

Yeah, it's something stupid like only 35% or so of Americans actually have passports, compared to 60-80% in other developed countries.

It's such a divided country in so many ways, I find that the more worldly types amongst them are some of the smartest and interesting people I've met, but there's an absolute pile of human trash behind them sat at home, eating each other alive with greed and power.
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>ITT butthurt Ameriboos trying to make themselves feel better about living in a nannystate of slackers and cowards
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>>85538104
>not being self-employed master race
I literally pay myself to browse /tv/, do you still use mommy's credit card to rent movies?
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>>85538459
That's what happens when 13% of your population is niggers and about 30% of your "white" population is spics.
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>>85530986
> tfw did 6 12-14 hours days in a row filming outside in the middle of Australian summer (35-40 degrees Celsius)

I was mostly holding umbrella's over actors so that thier makeup wouldn't turn to mush between takes, which meant I was not in the shade.
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>>85531772
to be fair you can't claim anything before America's inception as being unique to yourselves and not them.
Their history is a split off point from Europe, not a complete start from nothing.
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>>85538531

go fuck yourself brit-fag
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>>85542150
>doesn't know what an Ameriboo is
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