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Was he /Ourguy/? >I hate Woody Allen physically, I dislike

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Was he /Ourguy/?

>I hate Woody Allen physically, I dislike that kind of man. I can hardly bear to talk to him. He has the Chaplin disease. That particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. He is arrogant. Like all people with timid personalities, his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he’s not. He’s scared. He hates himself, and he loves himself, a very tense situation. It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it’s the most embarrassing thing in the world—a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Everything he does on the screen is therapeutic.
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>>85313572
I'm really not /pol/ I promise, but his rant on his racism (from the same interview, I think) is spot on.
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>>85313572

I agree about Woody Allen, I can' stand his movies or his general persona, him being a child molester too just cements that he's a disgusting cunt.
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>>85313572
He hated Hitchcock, so he's a confirmed pleb.
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>mwaaHAAAAH
What did he mean by this?
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>>85313838
>I’ve never understood the cult of Hitchcock. Particularly the late American movies… Egotism and laziness. And they’re all lit like television shows.
he wasn't wrong senpai
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>>85313863
Yes he was.
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Mmmmuuaaaaahhhhhhhhthefreshshampane
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>>85313572
>Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant.
>He acts shy, but he’s not.

Is he saying that shyness doesn't exist?
Is he projecting his own arrogance on to shy people because he knows they wont defend themselves? And he can claim that he isn't arrogant because he isn't shy?
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>>85313980

>Is he saying that shyness doesn't exist?

No
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>>85313572
Yes he is /ourguy/, he utterly BTFO many faggots including Max Landis' piece of shit father.
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>>85313969
And remember, there's no fishstick like Mrs. Pell's.
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>>85313572
>tfw he describes you
I really need to fix my shit.
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>>85313836
Is he /ourguy/?
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My Lunches with Orson is the source of these quotes and a great read.
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The footage of a director trying to get him to shill some champagne while drunk as fuck is pretty amusing.

Those old boys drank hard.

https://youtu.be/VFevH5vP32s
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>>85314422

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqSmnrlgiHQ
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>>85314127
>>85314359
Zero fucks. I love it.
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>>85313863
>Particularly the late American movies
as long as he's not referring to Vertigo then I don't care what he says about Hitchcock
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>>85314127
top fucking kek, I love him more and more every day

who do you think was more based by the end of the 70's: Welles or Brando? Both were fucking incredible mad men who fought the world and won
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>>85313572
should have just been honest and said he hates manlets
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>>85314813

>who do you think was more based by the end of the 70's: Welles or Brando? Both were fucking incredible mad men who fought the world and won

Is there anyone remotely close to them in these days? All I can think of is Mel Gibson...
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>>85314422
>he doesn't do anything?
>MWAAAAAHhhh
literally perfect
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>>85314891
no, Mel refuses to fall off his rocker. He's remaining exceptionally competent. the closest we have is Armond White, actually
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>>85313572
the fucking brevity of that statement
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>>85314127
jesus fuck
that really puts a new light on that sociopath kike Landis
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>>85314731
Rear Window >
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>>85315268
He hated Rear Window
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>>85315305
I meant that it's better than Vertigo
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>"I have a great love and respect for religion, great love and respect for atheism. What I hate is agnosticism, people who do not choose."
This is the only time someone relevant agreed with me on this. Fuck agnostics.
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Welles knew all the major players in Hollywood from the 30s to the 80s. He has great stories.
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>>85315515
And Orson Wells hated it...
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>>85315522
this, center fags are afraid of choosing, so they confide themselves by striving for neutrality, which is retarded in itself, since one way or the other you're bound to pick a side eventually, so you might as well do it on your own volition before it's too late.
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Considering the lengths he took to make a Frozen Peas commercial kino I'd say he was forever /ourguy/
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>>85315569
>ywn live in prewar society
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>>85313838
>He hated Hitchcock,
And woody allen? And made so many great movies? Definitely /ourguy/, and possibly a god
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>>85314127
>Kill him.
succinct and to the point
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>>85315815
Nah, that's Kubrick, but Orson comes close.
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>>85313572
Ugly artists get their dick sucked if they 'wear their heart on their sleeve'. Women aren't about to reward the guy who teaches other men to be uncompromising when it comes to women.
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>>85313775
It doesn't matter if you're from /pol/ or not, /pol/ is all of 4chan and it always will be
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i'd like to know who the (non meme) Welles poster is. His frequent Welles threads spreading the legend of Orson have made quite an impression on me.
I now consider Orson 2nd only to Norm as the most /tv/ man who has ever lived
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>>85315815
>so many great movies
lol
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>>85313775
what does he say fampai
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>>85313775
Come on now, isn't somebody going to post this?
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>>85315639
fuck orson
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>>85315977
>I now consider Orson 2nd only to Norm as the most /tv/ man who has ever lived
He certainly was a great story teller. I loved this one about Hemingway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyTi9v9QPxE
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>>85314185
>a filthy kike
>/ourguy/
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As much as I enjoy laughing/shitposting about fat Orson, even in his indulgent latter-half of life he still made some truly amazing movies (Chimes at Midnight, Touch of Evil). He has earned his silliness, and his respect, because he had the touch. Plus his quotes are golden.

>My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four. Unless there are three other people.
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>>85316380
Are you blasted?
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>>85314185
No, Kubrick is.
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>>85316253
Getting in a fist fight with hemmingway because you mocked him in a gay voice

Is this /commentarykino/?
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Just look how ludicrously fat he was in Chimes at Midnight.

Still a great movie though. Its critical flaw is having horrendous sound. My TV sounds nice and full at 20 and I rarely go over that. I think I had to crank the volume to 57 and I still had trouble hearing some of the lines, while others would blast through the speakers. My recommendation: watch it with subtitles. Still a great flick!
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>>85316608
I think I just figured out why Hemingway killed himself. The most interesting person in the world came forth to meet him and... it was Orson Wells.
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And sometimes you just really fucking need the money.
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>>85316982
He's a big guy
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>>85316253
take a look into the wacky antics of Marlon Brando, he's /ourguy/ in the same category as Norm, Orson and Mel Gibson
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1989/06/01/remembering-orson-welles/

> Orson never mentioned her. But then, come to think of it, except for bizarre dreamlike adventures, he never spoke of his private life. In all the years I knew him, I never set foot in any place where he was living, or met his wife, Paola Mori, who died a year after he did. I invited Orson several times to the house where I lived within megaphone distance of the Rudy Vallée shrine and he always accepted, with delight. Then the phone calls would start. “I know that it is the height of rudeness to ask who will be there, so my rudeness is of the loftiest sort. Who will be there?” I would tell him and he’d be pleased to see so many old friends; finally, an hour before the party began, he’d ring. “I have an early call tomorrow. For a commercial. Dog food, I think it is this time. No, I do not eat from the can on camera but I celebrate the contents. Yes, I have fallen so low.”

> Orson’s conversation was often surreal and always cryptic. Either you picked up on it or you were left out. At one point, he asked me to intervene on his behalf with Johnny Carson because there had been a “misunderstanding” between them and he was no longer asked to go on The Tonight Show and his lecture fees had, presumably, plummeted. I intervened. Carson was astonished. There was no problem that he knew of. I reported this to Orson in the course of one of our regular lunches at a French restaurant in Hollywood where Orson always sat in a vast chair to the right of the door. There was a smaller chair for one guest and an even smaller chair for a totally unprincipled small black poodle called Kiki.
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>>85317416
cont.

> “There is more to this than Johnny will ever tell you,” he rumbled. “Much, much more. Why,” he turned to the waiter with small cold eyes, “do you keep bringing me a menu when you know what I must eat. Grilled fish.” The voice boomed throughout the room. “And iced tea. How I hate grilled fish! But doctor’s orders. I’ve lost twenty pounds. No one ever believes this. But then no one ever believes I hardly eat anything.” He was close to four hundred pounds at the time of our last lunch in 1982. He wore bifurcated tents to which, rather idly, lapels, pocket flaps, buttons were attached in order to suggest a conventional suit. He hated the fat jokes that he was obliged to listen to—on television at least—with a merry smile and an insouciant retort or two, carefully honed in advance. When I asked him why he didn’t have the operation that vacuums the fat out of the body, he was gleeful. “Because I have seen the results of liposuction when the operation goes wrong. It happened to a woman I know. First, they insert the catheter in the abdomen, subcutaneously.” Orson was up on every medical procedure. “The suction begins and the fat—it looks like yellow chicken fat. You must try the chicken here. But then the fat—hers not the chicken’s—came out unevenly. And so where once had been a Rubensesque torso, there was now something all hideously rippled and valleyed and canyoned like the moon.” He chuckled and, as always, the blood rose in his face, slowly, from lower lip to forehead until the eyes vanished in a scarlet cloud, and I wondered, as always, what I’d do were he to drop dead of stroke.
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>>85317438
Reminds me of Don Rickles' roast, something to the tune of

"Orson's wife couldn't be with us tonight. I believe he rolled over her."

Gotta respect the audacity of the great ham himself of scripting in tender love scenes in Falstaff/Chimes at Midnight with his own character.
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>>85317438
>hers not the chicken's
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>>85313775
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>>85313572

Him and Brando are easily /tv/'s top guys.
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No. Woody is /ourguy/
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>>85318151

(((You)))
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wtf, I love war now??
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>>85314967
fucking lmao
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>>85315522
Wtf I love Islam and Scientology now?
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>>85318130
Both were very talented people but utterly despicable.
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>next year one of Orson's lost films will actually be finished and released (on Netflix)
>The Other Side of the Wind
>"The movie, shot in 8mm, 16mm and 35mm, follows an aged Hollywood director attempting to revive his career by making a trippy film filled with sex and violence."

Kino will be back on the menu, boys. A guy can dream about all of his living friends finally to stop bitching and pool together their individual Don Quixote footage, but this is good as well.
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>>85318130
>>85314813

Speaking of Brando, he actually wanted to be Vito Corleone and even promised Coppola he would lose weight if he was cast as the Godfather. But Coppola ultimately felt Brando was the only one who could do the role.

And speaking of weight:
>His average dinner famously consisted of two steaks cooked rare and a pint of scotch whiskey. This contributed to his obesity in his later life and his eventual death.
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>>85318504

My favorite Brando story:

>the costumer on “Mutiny on the Bounty” (1962), James Taylor, claims Brando split 52 pairs of pants during the shooting of the film, due to his wild swings in weight. This necessitated a stretch fabric be used on his wardrobe replacement clothes. He split these pants too. During this time, Marlon was also once observed taking a 5-gallon tub of ice cream and rowing himself out in the lagoon to indulge himself.
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>>85318540
fucking lol. I sneak into the kitchen to have ice cream; Brando goes out to sea.

Orson's outdoors clothing later in life was apparently tent canvasses connected with some ornamental buttons on them to give the appearance of an actual suit.
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What was his explosion in that famous outtake actually about? Did he have a point?
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>>85318644
>Orson's outdoors clothing later in life was apparently tent canvasses connected with some ornamental buttons on them to give the appearance of an actual suit.

the original quote is in >>85317438
i love the implication that they did a pretty bad job at imitating a suit and just sort of put the buttons wherever
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>>85318504
I remember learning Paramount (I think it was Paramount) was so against Coppola's decision to cast Brando as Vito that he made *him* pay a million dollars for it.
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>>85315522
>>85315734
>atheists and christtards are STILL too stupid to comprehend agnosticism

Agnostics aren't "too afraid to pick a side", they recognize that it's impossible to, in good conscience, jump to conclusions about things that we can't be certain of.
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>>85319249
No, you're not getting it. "Agnosticism" is already a fundamental part of one's persuasion towards the metaphysical. If you claim to be a "knowing" atheist or religious person then you've taken the metaphysical aspect out of it so it becomes this weird rhetorical matter.

Self-described "agnostics" are just noncommittal/apathetic atheists. True atheists and religious people are just "agnostics" who care enough to have a persuasion.
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>>85318981
>Paramount was so against Coppola's decision to cast Brando as Vito that he made *him* pay a million dollars for it.
This sounds like ice cream insurance.

>>85318180
>When the picture came out, the Swiss very nicely pointed out that they've never made any cuckoo clocks--they all come from the Schwarzwald in Bavaria.

lol
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>>85318180
"[...] cuck[...]" - Orson Welles
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>>85313572
I like to think of of him as my father. I man who saw through all the bullshit. I man who ware real. I man who appreciated real Fransh Champgne.. I real man. He will be missed. F
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