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Comfy Ten edition

>>85150626
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first for clala
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Doctor Who is dead.
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What's her catchphrase?
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So who should play Thirteen's companion(s)?
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>>85160143
captain jack
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>>85160143
Tennant
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>>85160143
John Barrowman
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>>85160143
Nardole
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>>85160143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryder_(actor)

This guy.
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>>85160124
Alexander Vlahos
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does the xmas special take place during the tenth planet?
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>>85160250
It's implied it is
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>>85160124
sugar cookies
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>>85160124
Sweet niblets!
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>>85160124
"Just my luck!"
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>>85160124
>Now that's what I call three bag's full
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>>85160250
Maybe the beginning but filming pics show their Tardis's in a warzone so perhaps not
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>>85160124
"Wubba-lubba-dub-dub!"
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It just occurred to me that on GoT, Ashildr killed the First Doctor
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>>85160510
Really weird that people still remember my post, years later.
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>>85160558
Don't remind me of her existence. Moff's worst character by far. It doesn't help that Masie Williams can't act if her life depended on it too.
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>>85160765
Has it really been that long? Damn

I dunno, something about the phrase just tickles me. It just sounds so campy, imagining the Doctor saying it every episode just makes me laugh
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reminder that this really happened and someone thought it was a good idea
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>>85160920
So like, did The Master make him a mini version of his suit to wear...?
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>>85160920
>someone
RTDcuckS think its good
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>>85160920
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>>85160965
I thought you were leaving forever because you got eternally triggered by the idea of a female Doctor
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>>85161211
Nope
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>>85161233
so you excited for the next season? you like the new doctor?
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>>85161265
It's so far away, I don't really know. I'm pretty skeptical about Chibnall, considering how his past Doctor Who episodes were.

I don't know anything about Thirteen other than her actor and what she looks like, so I can't really say whether or not I like them yet.
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I wanna FUCK the Doctor.
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>>85161361
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>>85161361
same
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>>85160868
I can't really remember. I thought it was from a joke I made about what Capaldi's phrase would be, so presumably that was before S8.
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>>85161361
When you reach the level of denial where you have to resort to sex appeal of the actor to justify watching a shitty show.
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>>85161233
>>85161311
>I don't know anything about Thirteen other than her actor and what she looks like, so I can't really say whether or not I like them yet.
So you've just completely flipped your stance since the reveal? Because on the night you were one of the dummies saying embarrassing stuff about how the show was ruined now.
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>>85161448
haha
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>>85160124
"Could a male do this?"
just watch it turn into sjw pandering
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>>85161361
>>85161405
It felt really weird and wrong jerking off to the Doctor for the first time last night
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>>85161480
>he hasn't wanked to Patrick Troughton
Sad!
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>still no series 9 soundtrack
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>>85161480
I'm still refusing to, it feels so very wrong in my head considering the Doctor is pretty much my childhood hero. It feels fucking dirty somehow. Like if I fapped to Jodie I'd imagine Hartnell Doc just looking at me in pure horror. All the posts about breast expansion regeneration and Jodie feet posting is cruelly hitting me in my fetishes and I'm not sure if I can hold out any longer lads
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all right. i got to the 4th episode of the tenth planet.

animated or reconstruction /who/?
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>>85161361
Is the Doctor pure?
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>>85161591
this. i really want to, but it feels so wrong
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>>85161466
I never said I hated her or that the show was ruined. But clearly saying 'well doctor who was a good show' as a tongue-in-cheek jab in reference to the fact that a shitton of people are pissed and are going to freak the fuck out means I hate it I guess.

I unfollowed their social media for the same reason, I knew it was going to be nothing but bitching in the comments left right and center and I just couldn't care less.

I have nothing against a female Doctor except for the fact that I like to gag on the Doctor's cock, hence my initial saltiness. Kek.

lumley would have been a better female doctor ree
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>>85161436
What's that phrase even from anyways? Did you just come up with?
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>>85161600
recon
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>>85161634
>>85161591
You can't resist it boys.

Cum for me.
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>>85161640
Wasn't at all obvious that your response was tongue-in-cheek, especially since it was amongst a shitstorm of people unironically saying the same thing. I'm glad I was wrong though.

Personally, I'm expecting /who/ and everything to get better over time. Already it feels like most people here support it, and the big babies that are still whining will probably (hopefully) drop the show during S11.
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>>85161648
"3 bags full" is from Baa Baa Black Sheep, the nursery rhyme. It make no sense in the context I put it in though, was just meant to be some nonsense that vaguely resembles a phrase.
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>>85161712
real fans support the idea of a female doctor. glad we got rid of the assholes
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>>85161712
>Wasn't at all obvious that your response was tongue-in-cheek

Loss of tone on the internet.

I did fuck off for a little bit to avoid all the cancerous drama though, it was pretty draining.

My only hangup is how am I supposed to get off to the Doctor railing me against the TARDIS if they don't have a dong? THE REAL TRAGEDY :(
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>>85160124
>cum for mommy
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>>85161758
Eat shit. Doctor who is dead now thanks to you SJW scum.
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>>85161838
haha
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>>85161838
Sure it is, boardie.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6apb7ZW8Y

what did he mean by this?
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>>85162025
RTDcucks are truly fucking delusional
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>>85161691
>JOI starring the Doctor

Please stop
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>>85161640

same but inverse, i want attractive female companions, not attractive doctor.
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>>85162128

exhibit A
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>tfw my company is holding a vote as to what to rebrand as
>one of the options is offerineo dot com
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>>85161838
>liking a female actor makes you an SJW

okay boardie
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>>85162069
Hello. I'm the Doctor.

Basically: Cum.
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I fucking hate Osgood
It's a character that worked in the 50th,but using her in series 9 was a lazy,unispired choise,fuck you Moffat
Discuss
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>>85162262
Welcome to 2015
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>>85162025
>since the departure of Russel T Davies
dropped it right there.
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>>85162274
2 years later, I still can't stand that one
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I wish he had more great episodes but, where the actor is concerned, if this is going to be our last Doctor to be played for a white male actor for awhile (it probably will be, might as well come to terms with this starting now. the next next Doctor is either played by another woman or a black male) I'm glad it was someone like Capaldi and not another Tennant or Smith type.
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>>85162457
thats true, if he was the last one it was a hell of an ending in terms of acting. he's fantastic
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>>85162457
the only way we get another white guy is to meme the ginger thing as much as possible. make the next one an irish guy.

I cant see them doing 2 girls in a row, one becaue its goes against all evidence for canon we've seen and two because they will have already played all their cards and the gimmick would have worn off.
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>>85162457
>>85162529
I love Capaldi but who gives a shit about who the "last white male actor for awhile" is? It's a completely meaningless description. You may as well mourn Colin for being the last blond Doctor for awhile.

Not to mention that there's no reason to believe that just because we have one female Doctor suddenly the balance will tip into the other extreme and we'll stop seeing white male Doctors.
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How prominent is Jodie Whittaker in Broadchurch? Is she just recurring or is she a major character? I think I'm going to start watching the show to get acquainted with Chibnall's style of show and Jodie herself, as well as some comfy Tennant.
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>>85162561
>gimmick

>>85162591
Not one of the two lead roles but she is a major character. Mother of the victim.
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>>85162590
It's not exactly that that im worried about, it's just going to be that all the years of relative similarity will end. which isnt to say the show will be any worse for it. It's just like watching your favourite game series change up the forumala for the latest installation
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>>85162603
it is a gimmick, she was chosen out of only a list of women
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>>85162561
>>85162603
They did have The General say that all of her other incarnations were female and that when she was Ken Bones it was a one off, perhaps they'll stick to that.
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>>85162457
>Listen
>Mummy
>Flatline
>Last Christmas
>Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar
>Face the Raven
>Heaven Sent
>Hell Bent
>Husbands of River Song
>Extremis
>World Enough and Time
>The Doctor Falls

Capaldi had more great episodes than matt
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>>85162648
>she was chosen out of only a list of women
The lack of self-awareness necessary to write something like this should be lethal.

All 12 previous Doctors were chosen out of only a list of men, you idiot. Were they gimmicks?
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>>85162689
tradition is the opposite of a gimmick

and you're wrong, capaldi was the only actor who was even given an audition for 12
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>Capaldi has some dialogue about being tired of going on tired of everything
>One is all, "Hmph. Tired of everything, you say? There's a great big universe out there to see."
>Capaldi: "I've seen it all. Blah blah blah moan moan."
>One: "Tut tut, What you need, my boy, is a change of perspective. Hmm.. yes change.. and not a moment too soon, I might add!"
>One giggles with glee
One: "I might have to save that one for later!"
>Capaldi talks about how he's gone through various changes already and how not even that's enough anymore
>One: "Then perhaps you need a REAL change, hmm? We Time Lords aren't just limited to.."
>One gestures to himself and Capaldi
>One: "this."
>Capaldi doesn't catch on and One moves on deciding not to press the issue
>Later in the episode after One has said his goodbyes and all and Capaldi can no longer hold back regeneration the First Doctor's words about a real change. The current Doctor smiles with peace now ready for change, it finally clicks how he can get a completely new perspective on the universe.
>The Doctor says his final words and regenerates into the first female bodied incarnation
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>>85162652
Yeah, it seems likely that they'll allow one single line in an episode about a tertiary character dictate their casting choices for the rest of the show.

What are you talking about?
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>>85162704
>and you're wrong, capaldi was the only actor who was even given an audition for 12
It's wrong to say that in the past they've only ever auditioned men for the role because for 12 they auditioned one single man? Do you want to try that again?

I don't understand how you can survive with so much cognitive dissonance coursing through your body. In one post you said that only auditioning women means it's a gimmick and bad, and then in literally your next post you mentioned about how for the last Doctor they only auditioned one single person and somehow that's fine and "tradition".
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>>85162775
It's wrong to say that every doctor was cast from a list of exclusively men
there was no list for 12
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>>85162775
also I'm a different anon so your high horse about cognitive dissonance is irrelevant. I'm just stirring shit and have no emotional investment in your argument
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>>85162784
But that doesn't negate my point at all, it actually strengthens it. You're just nitpicking one tiny thing and using that as an out to the argument.

And sorry for writing so many words in my last post that you couldn't read it all, cletus.
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>>85162689
Do we know for sure no women auditioned for the 11th Doctor? Sauce?
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Be honest with me /who/ will Jodie be used by the likes of Sarah Dollard to spew horrible feminist shit? or are we safe, can we actually get a normal female Doctor?
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>>85162811
see >>85162801
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>>85162801
>start losing an argument
>I d-don't care! I don't even believe the stupid things I'm saying!
what did anon mean by this
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>>85162835
fuck off cletus
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>>85162866
Mate we all know you're like 9 and are a little redhead runt tranny with a lisp. Go away. We've seen the video.
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>>85162840
I'm a different anon whether you believe it or not. your denial suggests cognitive dissonance on your part.

I'm looking forward to the glitter age and I think the different direction will be an interesting change of pace. I haven't even read whatever argument you were having earlier
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>>85162835
Dollard is likely gone with the rest of Moffat's writers in the great Chibnall purge for his era
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>>85162875
Hey anon I didn't read this post.
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>>85161640
>i was only pretending to be retarded

Oh fuck off Edge, you were shitting yourself over the idea that you wouldn't get another hot man to jack off to and you're still incredibly salty, probably only hanging around here to remind the entire general how much you like the Tenth Doctor (it's basically avatarfagging at this point). Don't pretend you were ever being tongue-in-cheek
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>>85162892
Fuck you you don't know me Anon
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>>85162893
>>85162918
Bit creepy, anon.
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>>85162893
>>85162918
fridge/10
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Shes actually kinda attractive.
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>>85162893
>dat tummy
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>>85162931
tfw no speedo photos of capaldi
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Reminder that Cats is gay
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>>85162893
>>85162918
>posting pictures of women for no purpose other than objectification
stop that
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>>85161785
sonic strapon
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>>85162913
Not him Edge but it's pretty embarassing for you to say you were only joking. Just admit you had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the casting. A lot of people here (myself included) felt the same but have since calmed down, it's nothing to be ashamed of.
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>>85162964
I hope she ditches her Yorkshire accent, so annoying. I hate northern Anglos,

T.Southern Anglo.
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>>85162591
I wish I could watch that show but someone spoiled me on who the killer is.

Fuck sake.
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>>85162972
It's not the same ;_;

>>85162978
You can believe whatever you want, but I already said I was salty
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>>85162945
Source?
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>>85163023
He supports a twink companion
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>>85163050
but I support of a twink companion too
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>>85163050
NO I FUCKING DON'T STOP TWISTING MY FUCKING WORDS YOU FUCKING CLETUS. I AM NOT GAY
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>>85163050
Doesn't necessarily mean hes gay.
Maybe he just likes the idea of a small twink boy being dommed by the charismatic and strong 13th Doctor
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>>85163128
thank you but i am not gay
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>>85163098
oh so you're a homophobe then?
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Other AusAnons, JB Hi Fi is doing a pretty good sale of Doctor Who DVDs at the moment. Buy 1 get 1 free. A lot of good Classic DVDs.

Could always use this torrent though magnet:?xt=urn:btih:448761c7e2aabb69f5e9c45c4743b414ce23a06a&dn=Doctor%20Who%201963%202003%20Mixed%20bd%20dvd%20With%20xtras%20REPACK%2010bit%20x265HEVC%20D0ct0rLew%20UTR&tr=http://mgtracker.org:2710/announce&tr=http://tracker.files.fm:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.mg64.net:6881/announce&tr=udp://tracker.zer0day.to:1337/announce That's the HEVC one with all the classic dvds and their commentary/special features/CGI addons/etc
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>>85162689
as inthey forced the change. it didnt evolve naturally. that makes it a gimmick, jumbo
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>>85163170
in what context could it have evolved naturally?
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>>85163168
You can't download a DVD
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>>85163178
he clearly wanted a trans Doctor first, then a woman
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>>85163198
You can download an ISO copy of a DVD which amounts to much the same thing. That torrent is just mkvs though, I do recommend it for pirateanons though. Much better than sorting through all the older torrents
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>>85162712
>one single line

both timelords that have changed gender have only done it once dumbass.the rest never changed
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>>85163168
Yeah it's fucking amazing, finally got myself The Time Meddler and The War Games on DVD
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>>85163178

By having a female actor that made more sense than a male one?
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>>85163244
The War Games is fucking incredible, definitely one of my favourites.
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>>85163270
what male actor made more sense to be cast than her?
If you say kris marshall I'll laugh at you
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>>85162709
The Doctor says his final words and regenerates into the first slitheen [/spoiler[ bodied incarnation
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>>85163289
we dont know because they never looked for one. kris marshall never got an interview. men were not even considered.
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>>85163168
Pistachio pudding.

sorry just giving myself a code for when I search for this thread tomorrow. Need to clear up some space on the ol' external first..
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>>85163290
>Slitheen Doctor puts on Jodie Whittakers skin
>Entire season is Jodie Whittaker walking around farting
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>>85163222
You can't download something that looks like this I mean.
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>>85163362
For sure, which is why my post was about pointing out a good deal to get something like that, then I just added an addendum about the free digital version if any other anons were so inclined
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>>85163362
Damn that's a THICC dvd collection! How long did it take you?

Here in Malaysia I can hardly even find New Who DVDs :( It's like the Master stole them all for some nefarious scheme
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>>85163389
>How long did it take you?
It's not my collection I just googled it
I've been collecting since the revival. I could probably quite easily just bulkbuy all the stories I'm missing from Amazon and be done with it. Perks of being a Brit I suppose.
I prefer to just add one to an order to get free shipping or finding them in cheaper shops.

My Big Finish collection is THICCer than DVD.
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Fucking hell I'm 10 minutes into Broadchurch and I'm already sad as fuck.
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>>85163803
Danny no more.
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>>85163803
It's only going to get more depressing
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>>85163803
The first ep is pretty depressing yeah, Whittaker really sells the tragedy of the whole thing. I really love the show, Chibnall has a great sense of how to make all the characters feel like real people and look for the humanity in all of them. AMAZING music, great locations, neat visuals, it's all just really well-done.
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I have been gone a few weeks. Look at the absolute state of this place, just when I thought /who/ couldn't fall any lower. Stop making threads. The show is finished and so are you!
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>>85163819
God, what am I in for....

I'm a bit more sensitive to traumatic deaths of family members ever since my mom died a few years back now so this is gonna be a, as the casuals say, a roller coaster of feelings.

>>85163814
Press F
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>>85163868
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>>85163877
I can't speak as much to the stuff in s1, but the events in s2 and s3 rang very true to me. Very emotional and real.
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I have a new and funny Doctor Who based joke, I intend to tell it to my friend Gregory later, let me know what you think of it:

Q: What is the 13th Doctor's favourite drink?
A: PENIS Colada

Also share your favourite Doctor Who based jokes.
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>>85163847
I watched the flrst episode and was really excited to see more. Then someone spoiled me. Now it's useless for me to watch ;_;
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>When John Peel wrote the outline for War of the Daleks, he made it a commentary of the state of the TV show in the late 1980s. It’s intended that you read the Thals as the BBC, Davros as “Who” producer John Nathan-Turner and the Dalek Prime as Terry Nation. However, even Peel admits: “Not a single critic picked up on the allegory”
Fucking hell. That makes War of the Daleks even worse, in a way.
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>>85163922
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>>85163943
Why would that make it useless? Is Doctor Who useless to watch because you know eventually the Doctor becomes the Curator? Is the Christmas special not worth watching because you know eventually Capaldi becomes Whittaker?

>>85163922
>share your favourite Doctor Who based jokes
Toby Whithouse
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>>85163943
This is exactly what happened to me. The person who spoiled me was itv news.
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>>85163877
It's a pretty emotionally draining show

You might find yourself needing to take breaks
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>>85164017
Is Doctor Who your favourite Tennant show edge? Do you like his performance in JJ / Broadchurch / Casanova / something else better?
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Anyone know what's going on with the VK stuff?
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So the Christmas special is just called The Doctors?

Holy shit Moffat couldn't resist could he?
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>>85164032
I haven't seen Casanova, but I adore him in Broadchurch and Jessica Jones.

Yeah Doctor Who is probably my favorite, because besides Tennant there were other actors and characters I enjoyed in the show immensely. In Jessica Jones I was only really interested in her and Tennant's character, Kilgrave. In Broadchurch, similarly, I only cared about Ellie Miller (Olivia's character) and Alec (Tennant's character).

If I had to pick my favorite Tennant character out of Alec Hardy/Kilgrave/Ten it'd be a straight up tie between Kilgrave and Ten, I don't think I can decide. I want Kilgrave to dom me
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>>85163959

you don't touch the eggs during an aborion
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>>85163991
> Why would that make it useless?

Because the examples you mentioned are not ecactly the same as knowing who did the killing and then watching scenes with said person acting innocent. I will know. There will be something lost when they eventually find the culprit. It's a show with a central theme: the murder of Danny. Knowing who it is just takes something away from it all.
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>>85164126
the fetus is just an advanced egg
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Why are ice cream cones with wafers sticking through them called 99's?
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>>85164160
literally never heard them be called that before desu
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>>85164111
There's been no official BBC press release saying it, so it's not confirmed, but that's the buzz yeah.

>>85164124
I'm surprised you haven't seen Casanova! I agree with JJ it was tough to care about the other characters.

>>85164134
I disagree enormously with:

>It's a show with a central theme: the murder of Danny. Knowing who it is just takes something away from it all.

and I could point to examples like Twin Peaks working fine even if you know who the killer is, but if that's how you feel, that's how you feel. I will say that I think the dramatic irony of knowing the killer works just as well as the mystery, especially considering there are 2 more series that worked from that angle. The show isn't about "who is the killer", the show is about the town and all its characters, the way mysteries hurt people, the dichtomy between small towns picaresque image and seedy underbellies (easy to see where Chibnall was drawing from Lynch), etc. Then the second and third series have their own separate themes and ideas too. Plot isn't everything, surprises aren't everything, especially in a show like this.
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>>85164211
I want a JJ/DW crossover so bad man
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Who else here is excited about David Tennant as Scrooge McDuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NPoyDlit1g
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>>85164237
You're a pervert Edge. Can I be your friend?
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>>85164283
Yes and Yes
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>>85164330
The first episode was pretty great, but I'm not sold on Jodie yet, or whoever plays the husband as well. There was a good bit of crying and shock at the beginning and now, relative to the level of the tragedy that's happened, they seem a lot less disturbed about it.
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>>85164556
I really hope you're just kidding because if you've actually spoiled it I'm going to rip your fucking balls off and shove them up your ass you total fucking cunt.
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>>85164556
What do you get out of being a total dingus like this
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>>85164649
You have so little self control that you have to be banned from a site to stop you using it?

kek
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>>85164705
I WILL NEVER STAND WITH THE SPOILERS!
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>>85160124
"please watch"
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>>85164705
Yes. Also, Ellie's husband is found not guilty in season 2.[/spioler]

Ah dangit.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_(2011_film)

TV film written by Chris Chibnall, starring Tennant. Anyone seen it?
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>>85160124
Her catchphrase is mine, "I am scared. Really scared."
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>>85164705
As if a ban is ever going to stop someone from posting here
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>>85164160

In the early 60s what are now icecream vans used to sell Smash Mashed potato to kids instead. As this was not long after the war rationing had not long finished on Mashed Potato so it was considered an exotic treet, unlike the more common unrationed boiled potato. Children would run out of their houses when the Smash van came from street to street playing its jingle chanting "I potato, you potato, we all potato for potatoes!".

By the mid sixties however, the lure of the mashed potato had waned as children were spending all their pocket money on Beatles and Cilla Black songs. Something had to be done to lure the kids back to mashed potato vans.

Michellin starred French chef, Hugo LaPonce, was employed by the government as a mashed potato tzar and tasked with finding a way to arrest the decline of the industry.

LaPonce came up with the idea of putting the mashed potato in a wafer cone and shoving a sausage in it. To make sure people knew how modern his idea was he called it after the current year, 1966. Soon kids all across the country were eating nothing but 66s.

cont...
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now i get to play the "stop thinking about the show ive never seen until i forget the spoiler i just saw and watch it then" game
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>>85164256
What's with sneak peaks?
Are they previews for future episodes or just mini-sodes.
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http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a833482/bbc-stars-salaries-revealed/
>Doctor Who's Peter Capaldi gets £200k to £250k
>former Top Gear star Chris Evans out on top, with £2 million to £2.49m
WTF BBC
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>>85164782

Working in Huntingdon life sciences at the time there was a young scientist called Margaret Thatcher who had invented a new cosmetic cream which she was testing on the eyes of kittens and puppies. The cream irritated the animals eyes, often leading to her having to gouge the kittens eyes out (something Thatcher loved doing because of her being evil and all) but to her surprise the cream was rather tasty so she re-marketed it as a food product called "Mr Whippy".

Mashed potato sellers started to sell this in their spare nozzles as a desert for the 66 but it never really caught on until one Irish seller parodied the design of the 66 and called it the 99. It spread like wild fire and when a marketing campaign by cadburys replaced the sausage with a flake it started to outsell the mashed potato 66.

Nowadays, most vans don't even bother selling mashed potato and children chant "I scream, you scream, we all scream for Icecream" whenever they hear the jingles.
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>>85164744
I'm not the original guy you were giving spoilers to - I've already watched all of it.
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>>85164794
If it helps he was just making shit up. or was he...
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>>85164820
wtf the amount of value they get out of peter forever is worth WAY more than 250k pounds...
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>>85164833
thank u anon, this unironically helps confuse me.
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I've been off dr who and these generals for year. what has been the reaction here for a fem doc?
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>>85164879
Outrage from majority initially (including me) but literally changed tune over a day or 2, am currently excited to see how she does despite vehemently wanting a male doctor.
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>>85164879
Mostly positive or ambivalent, somewhat offset by /pol/ invaders
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>>85164879
Mostly positive from non-boardies. /who/ was pretty much spamming Whittaker for 2 days before the announcement.
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>>85164879
The script matters much more than the actor. If anything is to be learned from PCap's tenure.
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>>85164879

Broadly positive. Most people think it is a great idea and long overdue. There are a few dinosaurs about who can't except change but most are really excited about what CC is going to do and the bold changes he will make.
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>>85164912
>changed tune over a day or 2
why?
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>>85164960
The boardies left.
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>>85164879
I left here 3 or 4 weeks ago because I didn't want any finale spoilers so I didn't even know Whittaker was in the running. It was all about Kris Marshall.
I'm pleasantly surprised, and interested to see how it goes. I'm not really familiar with her though so I can't say I'm excited just yet.
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>>85164960
Honestly i dont know, i was so against it but now im defending it. I think it comes from me wanting to like the show, not just hoping i do. Im still worried about how drastically this could change the show but right now im cautiosly optimistic.

That being said however, i still dont like that they stole a role model from little boys to turn them into a role model for little girls. They could have easily brought back romana or even have a clara spinoff and achieved the same goals aside from """"progress points""""
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>>85164982
I saw her in attack the block I think, and she was meh in broadchurch.

I presonally don't want a female doctor, just like I don't want a Lars Croft
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>>85164982
did you know about simm returning?
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>>85164955
>can't except change
You just bought yourself 1 week on the filter list.
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>>85165063
Forget Simm, some autist either spoiled or correctly guessed the whole finale before it aired.
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>>85164879
>>85164912
>>85164918
>>85164926
>>85164955

I am a little scared. Although I don't really care who the cast Male/Female/Cat/Kaled/Bed Mattress I still think that it is too radical of a change. The Doctor is an icon, a brand and changing an image so drastically can off put the whole franchise, it's like changing the shape of the TARDIS, some risky business. I am scared of what the writers will inevitably be pushed to do and I feel when they do, the show and it's content so translucent and fake, it will no longer be enjoyable. Right now to parallel old and new, the show is up to the Sixth Doctors. Some scary times ahead.
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>>85165063
I did, that was revealed before the series even started.
I think I left some time around Lie of the Land or Empress of Mars. So I knew a few things about World Enough and Time but I went into The Doctor Falls completely blind
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>>85164256
why don't any of them make any effort to sound like the characters they're portraying rather than using their normal adult voices? Tennant isn't even attempting to sound like an old man, it's like they hired him purely because he's scottish and is moderately well known
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>>85165003
>They could have easily brought back romana

Would you like a male Romana?
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>>85165108
The show is literally built on change. It's not a big deal. Having the main character change face to Troughton was a much bigger change than this, especially when the last few series set this up anyway, whereas Tenth Planet ep4 came out of nowhere.
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>>85164879
From my own perspective, I was pretty angry at first, mainly because I knew there was a 99.9% chance of a female doctor, and because I spent an hour watching fucking tennis and had just woken up from a 2 hour nap before that, and I don't do well waking up so suddenly, I was disoriented for a half hour after that. So after all that, having it confirmed really pissed me off. On another note, I hate pandering, and no matter what side you're on you have to admit this was only done to appease a certain group of people. So initial reaction was quite angry.

After getting some sleep, talking to a few friends that I have to maintain a certain facade with, and watching the reveal promo a couple more times, I decided that I'd give her a fair shake at the roll, and that admittedly, she looked the role very much. I realized that I was grateful for Chibnall not hiring some 20 year old, nose piercing, SJW with a dyke haircut and pink hair in the role. I'm crossing my fingers she isn't going to make stupid jokes about how awful men are like Moffat did every chance he gets, and I'm going to give Jodie and the new production team a fair chance to make the change they've made to the show a good one.
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>>85165113

You're not really familiar with the source material are you? Scrooge may be old in years but he is like a big kid who goes on adventures. The nephews and Donald give him a new lease of life after sitting in his mansion counting his money for decades and hes making up for lost time.
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>>85165201
would this have been better or worse than what we got?
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>>85165189
>I hate pandering, and no matter what side you're on you have to admit this was only done to appease a certain group of people
You can present your opinion as fact as much as you want. It won't make it true. Get out of the political headspace and think about why this has been discussed since the 60s, not just in today's current climate.
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>>85165217
I'm familiar with the source material. Scrooge is an old man and david tennant just sounds like david tennant
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>>85160124
"brb, have to go bleed out of my vagina"
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>>85165189
>I'm crossing my fingers she isn't going to make stupid jokes about how awful men are like Moffat did every chance he gets
I do not understand where people get this idea from. Have they actually seen anything of Chibnall's? He does not write this way. Even Broadchurch S3, covering very hot-button social issues, did not move to that sort of pandering style of writing. In interviews and his actual work, he's made it clear he's interested in attempting to find common humanity in characters and to write realistic, flawed people. Not to "score points" with so-and-so or whatever other fearmongering points people are thinking up now. Why not judge Chibnall and Whitakker based off their actual work, off actual evidence, instead of baseless fears.
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>>85165108
im >>85164912

but i still agree with what you said, i guess my perspective is she's the doctor whether we like it or not so we may aswell try to enjoy the ride and hope that things turn out well
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>>85165264
Hopefully he keeps dollard in check
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>>85165113
Yeah, you're right. I'm not interested at all.
The guys playing the kids too, they aren't even pretending to be kids. They're literally just grown men talking in their normal voices
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Friendly reminder that if you're male you can't watch DW from now on. Its a women-onlysafe space, and we dont want you to ruin it for us uwu
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>>85165291
We don't even know who Chibnall will be bringing back so Dollard may not even write another episode
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>a man who hasn't written an episode of doctor who in 4 years and has never written an above-mediocre episode is now in charge of the show

are you ready for the memes that come from this inevitable trainwreck
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>>85165291
I'm unsure he'll bring back any writers from past series, given this writer's room idea getting bandied about. However, if he does, I would imagine hiring Dollard would be something he'd consider, as she has experience working in writer's rooms (from Australia), and is low enough on the totem pole, so to speak, that she would actually write in a writer's room (something I don't see someone who's ran an actual show, like Whithouse or Harness.

>>85165315
He's coming off the back of a critically acclaimed show he ran by himself for years. Personally, I think judging his work running a show is more important than judging the work he did writing scripts for other showrunners. Doctor Who will be his show, the way Broadchurch was, so Broadchurch feels to me the more sensible thing to base concerns and hopes off.
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>>85165246

Carl Barks comics, read them and also Don Rosa's life and times of scrooge mcduck. You'll thank me for it.
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>>85165126
This change is a big deal for me, and I said That I don't really care, but the social climate we are in is still not mature enough for the change. Having The Doctor go from male to female, while not the same exactly, still rivals Hartnell to Troughton equally in the change aspect. Although I suspect every fans opinion have different in some way.

>>85165285
oh with you there. Not going to boycott and rage just yet. Gotta give it a chance or it is 30yrs/plus of being a fan down the drain. and hope>>85165315
doesn't happen


>>85165201
give me Jodie any day of the week
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Hey does anyone have the screencaps of those funny titles from the episode generator that someone posted like last week?
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>>85162680
>Another Hell Bent fan
Superior taste detected
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>>85165347
>but the social climate we are in is still not mature enough for the change
Do you care more about the reception to the show than the show itself? Get your mind out of it dude and just watch the show. Why care about Twitter and all that nonsense. Just let the man write, and let the woman act.

I see so many people do this here, get so wrapped up in the reception of the show, and it just makes me sad. You'll drive yourself crazy reading fringe reactions, instead of just watching and potentially enjoying the show itself. Why watch Claudia Boleyn, when you can watch Peter Capaldi? Why care about insane tumblr and insane /pol/ reactions to Doctor Who, instead of caring about the actual characters and stories of the show itself?
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I want jodie's final outfit to keep the whoodie tbqh desu
something about how it frames the silhouette is really cool
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>>85165232
> Get out of the political headspace and think about why this has been discussed since the 60s, not just in today's current climate.

Not that Anon, but come on man. Yes they talked about it before, but they never did it. And any time other than """current times""" would have been a different story. But if you really think that in this day and age a female Doctor is just a coincidence or anything but pandering you are quite naive.
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>yfw Moff, mathieson and gatiss were the only ones who wrote good episodes in s10
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>>85165371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKie-vgUGdI

>>85165382
I'd be happy with it just as a reference to Capaldi's outfit and a way to conceal her identity for the first bit of the trailer, but I agree that it did work fairly well in its own right
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>>85165393
Your perception of this is so warped. Can you not see that the politicisation comes from the fans? Look at Chibnall's actual comments and stop reading conspiracies into everything. Better yet, just watch the actual show instead of going "muh sjws" or "muh cletuses" or whatever endlessly about everything
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>>85165403
I knew it was a woman as soon as we saw her body from behind because no man has hips like that
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>>85165382
desu as long as her outfit isnt sexualised at all ill be fine, she should wear something goofy and modest.
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>>85165439
I'm 100% confident that they will completely cover up her cleavage
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>>85165439
I'm quite excited for the range of costumes they'll be able to draw from, I'm sure they'll put an immense amount of thought into it. I was a huge fan of 12's relative lack of costume, but I'd be keen for something noticeably creative with 13.

>>85165436
I suppose hips don't lie
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>>85165347
>the social climate we are in is still not mature enough for the change.
With all the hints Moff put in during Capaldi's tenure, the longer they put it off, the bigger the shitstorm would've been:
Lore fags would've had another doctor/set of doctors to add to the claim that he just is male.
SJWs would've gone on about how it's 60/70/100 years too late, not to mention the inevitable shitstorm at 13 being a male after the deliberate in your face hints during series 10.

The show was about to die- ratings are at a severe low point. The risk of a female Doctor is likely to bring in more of an audience than it loses. Heck, even most lorefags will come back to the show at some point out of curiosity, and by that time Whittaker's Doctor will probably win them over.
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>>85165436
I'm almost ashamed to admit I didn't know it was a woman until her face was revealed
>the hips
>the hand
>the close up of the eye
and yet I had no idea
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>>85165382

The Valeyard has a hood of sorts so it is guaranteed.
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How many costume variants will 13 have on rotation?
Will they make a conscious decision to make her wear the same outfit a lot so they can take a stand against the "women have to wear something different every day" meme that people get so upset about with news presenters?
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>>85165403
I actually dated a never nude. It was weird.
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>>85165497
>the close up of the eye
wew what kind of trap porn do you watch where men looking like that is normal?
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>>85165503
It'll probably be up to Jodie's taste more than anything. I know Capaldi had a lot of influence on how his outfit varied.
>goat costume variant related
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>>85165453
any clevage other than the inevitable "i have boobs xDDDD" joke willl ruin the show, unironically.
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>>85165506
how did they sex?
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>>85165426
I am actually quite open minded about it, and am certainly going to watch the show. Mainly because Moffat's gone and the fact that for some inexplicable reason i saw "The Doctor" in this shot where Jodie smiles when the TARDIS materializes.

I am just saying that with all the things going on in various pieces of media that this is NOT a mere coincidence. It simply isn't.
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Why do you guys keep defending a show that doesn't want you to watch it? Is it because now you can fap to the Doctor?
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>>85165541
Sex was mostly normal. They just had to always be covered under a blanket. Best sex ever was when she was mostly fully clothed, actually.
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>>85165561
meaning you weren't allowed to look or just she had to be covered on some level even if you were under the cover?
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>>85165543
Jodie is going to save the world.

The left will realize their representation is meaningless and at the end will learn to appreciate art for art.

The right will realize that not all change- regardless of the climate of such change or reasoning behind it- has to be terrible.

Lucky 13 is the beginning of the Diamond Age of humanity.
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>>85165439
> Doctor wanders trough wardrobe post regeneration
> all mens clothes
> pushes away some suits Including 10's
> there's a door
> she steps trough it and it reveals a big wardrobe with women's clothing
> "I always knew I'd use this eventually"
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1500251662025616400

Thank God for not making you this autistic, /tv/.
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>>85165543
I'm not saying it's a "coincidence", I'm saying the show has never been apolitical, the Doctor has never been apolitical, and acting like 13's casting was political and somehow previous castings weren't is falling prey to this silly political outrage angle people are so keen on. The craziest thing is how people get outraged off getting outraged of other people getting outraged. "Chibnall is a sjw because he cast a woman, look at these stupid sjws gloating about it" is as dull as "Moffat is problematic because he cast men, look at these stupid cletuses happy about it". It's just so tiresome, and disconnected from the show itself.
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How hard do you think it will be for the doctor to find a female jacket that actually has pockets?
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>>85165574
She had to be covered in the blanket, I had to be outside of the blanket. If it fell off I wasn't allowed to look.
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>>85165637
I know it's a tiny thing and I'm rightfully made fun of for caring so much, but I get so fucking triggered at Hurt being included on these pictures. May as well include meta-10 and the Watcher too. He's not a "proper" Doctor. A 2013 Doctor shouldn't be inbetween a 1996 Doctor and a 2005 Doctor. Reeeee
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>>85165637
I'm that autistic but only when drawing.
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>>85165657
but how did you guide your dick into the vag if you weren't allowed to see it?
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>>85165521
Honestly, I have no idea. Watching it again now and it's so clearly a woman
I guess I just wasn't really paying attention. I definitely wasn't paying attention during any of the walking. The hand reminded me of Matts hand so I had "male" in mind and when I saw an eye I thought nothing of it.

also
>11 in 10s clothes
I can't wait for the scene with Jodie Whittaker in 12s outfit. Do you think they'll make it so shes swimming in clothes way too big for her or will they handwave it away and give her more reasonably sized clothes
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>>85165622
>wardrobe shows various iterations of companion clothes that got left behind
>Nyssa, Teagan, Peri, (Ace?), Rose, Amy, Clala, and Bill's clothes everywhere for leaving without warning/dying.
>Random outfit is clearly Susan's
>becomes 13's costume base.
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>>85165702
keeping her in clothes that are too big for her will give them an excuse for why capaldi's outfit doesn't fit her chest shape, rather than his outfit suddenly including a female shaped vest

where'd you get that high res RTD era shot from?
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>>85165695
It's not that difficult anon. I was allowed to touch her after all.
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So how long is 13 going to last? My money are on two series
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>>85165735
You're right. Good, I think it'll be really fun
>where'd you get that high res RTD era shot from?
I googled "Matt Smith hands"
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>>85165758
>and that would still be longer than Eccles
Jesus christ.
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>>85165749
was there a reason behind her never nudeness? is her family religious or was she abused or something, or is she just uncomfortable with being seen naked for an unknown reason?
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>>85165758
It'll be three unless ratings plummet and the show gets cancelled.

So I'm betting at least three.
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>>85165646
I see your point Anon. And maybe I am a bit more sour about it thanks to Marvel shitting on their comics AND fans. I just have been burned by it. And it still feels somewhat off. But you're right. Doctor Who was always a "freethinking" show, if you know what I mean. If there's any show that can pull a sex change its Doctor Who.

I also got told "THE NEW DOCTORS A WOMAN" by a friend before I even knew WHO it was. So it felt off going into the trailer. But like i said, something about Jodie's smile when she sees the TARDIS makes me see "The Doctor" in there. It pretty much calmed my mind right there and then.
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>>85165377
The reception of a show is very low or non-existent on my list of cares. I will watch a show (or at least give a chance) no matter what. And another thing I don't do is let any thing regarding all media affect my views on anything. I will give this a chance, but there is a danger I might not like it for what it may become. It is in the BBC/Chib/Staff writers powers now to make me turn off.

>>85165468
still a chance now that they can. They kinda overplayed Bill last season
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>>85165783
No idea. I dated her for all of two months and I never cared enough to pry her about it. Her dad died when she was young and she was a virgin. That's about all I know.
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>>85165781
Oh they would never make her last just one series, the shitstorm would be too strong
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>>85165823
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor%27s_Three_Seasons_Curse
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>>85165790
The ratings are getting lower and lower, but i think there is going to be at least another Doctor after 13
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>>85165796
I get you. It's easy to form all these things into narratives, that's how we humans work after all, but it's healthiest to remember they really are separate. Marvel and the BBC are not colluding to put more women on screens or whatever. DW is all about changing things and experimenting, the show rots whenever it stagnates. I understanding how the way you hear the news can affect your thoughts on it though, totally. I agree that that shot of her smiling was very reassuring.
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HEY BY THE WAY DID YOU KNOW I'M GAY
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>>85165781
i'm okay with that
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>>85165846
I know it's reductive to say it's ALL because of streaming, but I mean, ratings are down all across the board, that is the way of things now. For everyone and everything. It's a brave new world for TV, and things won't be sorted out for quite some time. Any modern show going on for this long sees some natural slumps too.
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>>85165858
I've seen a lot of talk from many places that Bill's homosexuality was overplayed, or (to put it how I see it phrased most) "shoved down our throats. I have to admit that I didn't quite see this being the case, but it has made me curious. So, because this is the scintillating kind of way that I like to spend my Monday night, I crunched some numbers to see if there was any truth when compared to other companions.
I looked at every episode of each of the six main female companion's tenures, and broke it down to two types of mention, which I refer to in the data as:
References: Any mention - from a companion briefly talking about it (think Rose asking Gwyneth about boys in the Unquiet Dead) all the way up to romantic partners onscreen with them.
Inclusions: This is the more specific, and perhaps more important part; this is only times when a companion is seen onscreen with a love interest or kissing someone romantically. The top half of the above, really.
So this is what I came up with. It could be debated this is still subjective, but taking the initial five straight female companions gives us:
ROSE TYLER
Appeared in: 31 episodes
References: 24 episodes | 77.42%
Of which Inclusions: 19 episodes | 61.29%
Notes: Rose was a tricky one to look at, mainly because I was unsure whether to count the Doctor towards the Inclusions, and therefore References, category. In the end I settled for only counting him for episodes where there is a kiss, or talk of the matter (For instance, I counted their talk about settling down in The Impossible Planet as a Reference, but her declaration of love in Doomsday as an Inclusion).
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>>85165858
>>85165910

DONNA NOBLE
Appeared in: 16 episodes
References: 7 episodes | 43.75%
Of which Inclusions: 5 episodes | 31.25%
Notes: Again, in the interests of fairness, I didn't include Donna and the Doctor's running joke of having to deny they were a couple; after all, that is based on other character's perception of her sexuality, not her own, so doesn't really count.
MARTHA JONES
Appeared in: 19 episodes
References: 11 episodes | 57.89%
Of which Inclusions: 5 episodes | 26.32%
Notes: Once again, I only included her unrequited love for the Doctor as being referenced in an episode only when it was, despite it being there for her whole series as full-time companion.
AMY POND
Appeared in: 32 episodes
References: 28 episodes | 87.5%
Of which Inclusions: 26 episodes | 81.25%
Notes: Amy is easily the highest number on here, thanks to the presence of Rory throughout her tenure. I was wondering whether to count it for stories where their relationship/marriage is not outright mentioned, but I decided to as if Bill had've had a girlfriend/wife aboard the TARDIS people would've argued as it counting towards her sexuality being "shoved down our throats."
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>>85165725

Better idea:
Row upon row of identical outfit.
looks at several identical outfits saying "no." "not this one" etc
picks up one completely identical outfit.
"Now, THIS is me."
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>>85165886
It is a massive cop out though to blame it all on streaming though, and even with streams taken into account it's criminally low.

Series 7 stabbed the show in the chest. I blame Caroline Skinner.
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If you don't think Whittaker is the best incarnation of the Doctor, you are a misogynystic piece of shit.

Hang urself pls uwu.
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>>85165858
>>85165910
>>85165926

CLARA OSWALD
Appeared in: 35 episodes
References: 21 episodes | 60%
Of which Inclusions: 13 episodes | 37.14%
Notes: I didn't count Victorian Clara or Oswin here, just main Clara. I'm also aware Clara was bisexual to a degree, but as she was only shown overtly with a male love interest I counted that side for the sake of the data.
This gives a final average statistic of the straight companions having their sexuality referenced in 65.31% of episodes, and included more overtly in 47.45% of episodes. Now to look at Bill:
BILL POTTS
Appeared in: 12 episodes
References: 7 episodes | 58.33%
Of which Inclusions: 4 episodes | 33.33%
So the numbers do really show that any perceived overplaying of Bill's sexuality is pretty much not the case. In terms of references to it she is 7% below the average and in terms of inclusions, a whopping 14% below the average.
While to a lot of us it was pretty obvious that the statements at the start were not really the case, at least here is some solid data proving this is not the case.
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reminder vale decem exists in lore and the Ood sung it to 10 as he died. and the doctor speaks latin so he understood it all
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>>85165937
I know mate, that's why I literally pointed out it would be reductive to blame it all on streaming, then offered other ideas for the decline as well. Streaming is a big part but not everything. That's what I said.
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>>85165910
You need to remember that there is a very important difference between romance being a part of the plot and just mentioning your sexuality for the sake of it

real gay people don't announce to everyone that shows any interest that they're gay, they'd usually just deflect without revealing it like that
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>>85165970
>References: Any mention - from a companion briefly talking about it (think Rose asking Gwyneth about boys in the Unquiet Dead) all the way up to romantic partners onscreen with them.
Inclusions: This is the more specific, and perhaps more important part; this is only times when a companion is seen onscreen with a love interest or kissing someone romantically. The top half of the above, really.
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>>85165964
I know you did, I just wanted to jump in and show the chart is all. I was mostly agreeing with you.
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I thought has just occurred to me. Would Doctor Who(the franchise) be in better shape if Steven finished along side Matt?
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>>85165996
Sorry for snapping your head off then (:
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>>85165371
Also a fan. Even if the ending is a bit cheesey (why did they make their chameleon circuit not work?) it's shot beautifully, the sets are superb and we get some of the best acting from Capaldi, Coleman and Quasimodo.

Heaven sent is a better first half but I was not dissapointed by the second half.
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Bill's sexuality is totally underplayed, for what it's worth. She has a crush in the first episode, and goes on a couple of ill-fated dates in the middle of the run. There are two instances where a guy tries to hit on her, and she has to explain she's not into him. A couple of other small references.
Compared to the amount that Rose or Amy will talk about their sexuality from scene to scene, episode to episode, Bill's might as well be invisible. It's a fact of her life, but not a focal point. Except that it's not the cultural norm, so people pretend that they're being assaulted with it.
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>>85166001
no because then we never would have had the capaldi era, which from a quality standpoint has objectively been the best era of nuwho

it doesn't do as well in the ratings because it's a pleb filter
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>>85163320
>men were not even considered.
Sort of like how women were never considered for all the other auditions

Really makes you think, huh
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>>85166050
Exactly. Casting the first ~12 Doctors was just as political as the 13th. Great thing now is we have precedent for casting from a wider pool of actors, so the "muh merit / muh best actor for the role" folks can really get their wish, as future Doctors can search for the best actors across both men and women.
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>>85166045
Still with Capaldi but with a different show-runners direction and ideas. I feel he would be just as awesome if not better and I fucking hope Clara would be as well.
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>>85166075
Yeah, that's the best lasting effect of this. In the future they'll (probably) audition people regardless of gender. The first non-white Doctor would similarly open up the role even further which should make the "it should always be the best person for the role" people very happy.
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>>85166075
I'm just glad the shitstorm is happening now, when all it's going to do is bring more people into talking about a show that has fallen out of the public eye. Literally the best time to pull the trigger.
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>>85166075
Acting is basically the only profession where discriminatory hiring is allowed
they'd never cast a black man to play queen victoria, to give a hyperbolic example. This is technically discrimination but I don't think anyone would argue against it. Writers are perfectly within their means to write characters with an intended sex or race, because those things can be relevant to the character in the script
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>>85165854
Yeah, It really helps to stop and think, and not see a bloody connection in everything. It's also quite hard. All in all I just hope Chibnall and Whittaker can deliver. Not matter the reason, one thing still stands. Chibnall and Whittaker(and everyone else involved with running the show) have a very very tough road to walk. This Doctor's run has GOT to be good. It can't be like Capaldi's era with a mix of gems and turds, where only Caldi's acting chops carried the show.

The show has a lot to prove now. It could backfire easily. That's the only worry I still have.
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>>85166132
Yup, also since the last few series have laid the lore eggs for it, it really was the best time in-story and out-of-story.

>>85166149
Sure, although some great stuff can be done with casting in unconventional ways or casting purely for merit (a lot of Shakespeare adaptations just hire the best actors regardless of historicity and it works well). Good thing this is a role which explicitly can be either a man or woman.
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>>85166132
Whittaker's first episode will have the highest viewing figures in years. It'll also produce the most headlines/discussion about the show in years.

>>85166149
>Writers are perfectly within their means to write characters with an intended sex or race
So you agree there's absolutely zero problems with Chibnall only auditioning women for 13, right?
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>>85166110
I don't know. If not for Moffat we would never have gotten Heaven Sent, or the character of Missy, and stuff like that.
Moffat took a lot of risks and tried new things during 12s run. Capaldi himself would have been incredible even if we'd had a child running the show but I find it hard to think of a showrunner who would have done stuff like that. It would have been safer I think. We may not have had the lows of 12s run, but we almost certainly wouldn't have had the highs
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>>85166195
>So you agree there's absolutely zero problems with Chibnall only auditioning women for 13, right?
yes
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reminder this is the closest we'll ever get to a 12/11 multi doc episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQHC7a9JEQQ
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>>85166231
Just checking. I've seen too many people here say something similar as an argument against a female Doctor, somehow not realising that it also supports one.
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>>85166258
Until 2023
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>>85166258
do you think chibbers will get capaldi to do a similar thing to ease the audience into a female doctor?
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>>85166075
>2029
>discussing the casting of 16
>way past the novelty of a female Doctor
>both men and womens names are being thrown in
>arguing over who is the best of the best, regardless of gender
it's gonna be GOAT
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>>85166293
it's much more needed now than it was back then. This is going to be scary considering NOTHING is carrying over. just like 10/11 except the doctor wont even seem familiar
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>>85166293
I think he probably wants a fresh start with Series 11 tbqh.
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>>85166258
>Moffat eased the viewers into 12 by having 11 come back and tell everyone that he was still the Doctor
>RTD had Tennant cry for half the episode about how he was going to die and didn't want to go, alienating 11 to the masses
That wasn't very nice Rusty
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>>85166293
The Christmas special seems to be all about regeneration so it'll probably be enough. I expect to see 12 and 13 interact in a 60th anniversary special though (although I doubt 13 will be the current Doctor at that point).

>>85166298
The dream
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>>85166258
the origin of characterkino
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>>85166332
>implying that alienation wasnt solved before the doctors first "im the doctor speech"
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>>85166258
DON'T FORGET TO CLICK BELOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE OFFICIAL DOCTOR WHO YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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>>85166293
I got a good feeling we're going to see 1, 12 and 13 on screen together this Christmas.
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>>85166325
>>85166318
>NOTHING is carrying over
makes me so excited for the show

>>85166338
I wonder how likely it is that Chibnall will want to do something for the 60th, or that the BBC will let him. 50 is a big milestone, 60 isn't necessarily special.
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>>85166075
>both men and women
mate, having a male Doctor again would cause a massive shitstorm, it's not happening. They wouldn't take thst risk.
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what will season 11 episode 1 be called?
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>>85166399
you know what? i really fucking hope so, just seeing 13 and 12 together will make me feel so much better about the whole thing.
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>>85166406
The Better Doctor
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Allright. Scenario time.
Multi doctor story somewhere in the future. How will the other Doctors respond to becoming a woman at one point?

From all of the I think Eleven would be the most excited and curious of the lot. With his goofy expressions, asking loads of questions. Ten would be somewhat neutral I think, and Nine would probably think its fantastic.

Captcha; select jewelery. Made me kek
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>>85166404
It could go either way desu
surely people wouldn't be obnoxious enough to think that any male cast in the role from now on will be a step backwards for feminism
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>>85166206
mmm, fair enough but I think you and me are on a completely different wavelength. Missing out on Missy and Heaven Sent is well work the idea that Peter would blew our minds with another Runner. I just didn't have the same zeal as you with Moffat's scenarios the past 3 1/2 years. Heh isn't individual thought a good thing
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>>85166422
>Multi Doctor story
>Nine

Yeah, this is not going to happen.
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>>85166404
>having a male Doctor again would cause a massive shitstorm, it's not happening
The absolute state of cletuses. Of course there will be male Doctors again, 14 most likely will be one.

Not that I'd complain if they weren't. Nobody would have the right to complain even if the next 12 Doctors were all women.
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>>85166406
Doctor What?
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>>85166384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QSBO98Avo

>>85166402
I hope they do something

>>85166404
>having a male Doctor again
Having ~12 Doctors played by women after ~12 Doctors played be men isn't really a crazy thought. If you want to buy into the whole outrage narrative, a non-white Doctor could go over well, then all the precedents for the role will have been opened up.

>>85166422
Not sure we can really predict until we see what sort of a deal 13 makes out of it.
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>>85166422
>I have a vagina now! Vaginas are cool!
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>>85166422
I expect 12 to not react at all and just get on with it
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>>85166406
[insert name of companion]
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>>85166406
The Thirteenth Hour
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>>85166375
It was for me before Fish Fingers and Custard, but judging by the amount of people who still want Tennant back, I don't know if that's true for everyone
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_oMiXXQknQ
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>>85166422
9 would be pleased at another Northerner.
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>>85166458
>Having ~12 Doctors played by women after ~12 Doctors played be men isn't really a crazy thought. If you want to buy into the whole outrage narrative, a non-white Doctor could go over well, then all the precedents for the role will have been opened up.

im pro jodie but if they do another girl after jodie it will literally be a completely different show, it wont be doctor who anymore. it would be like having sherlock become a girl and then be a girl in every rendition after that, having a change as an occasional thing is fine but to actually and actively act like a male doctor/female dynamic isnt the best dynamic for longevity of the show is ridiculous
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>>85166424
>surely people wouldn't be obnoxious enough to think that any male cast in the role from now on will be a step backwards for feminism
Oh but they will, and they'll blame men for taking away their female Doctor in favor of another "fucking male Doctor"

I can already hear them screeching
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>>85166465
That's how they should all be written, to be honest. Making a huge deal over a gender swap (and so far every instance of it in the show has treated it as something significant) goes against what they're also trying to set up. They want it to be no big deal that Time Lords can and do change genders.

Moffat's writing on it has always been contradictory like this, hopefully Chibnall handles it better.
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>>85166489
> Eleven: But you're so..Northern
> Nine and Thirteen at the same time: Lots of planets have a north!
> they exchange smiles
> Twelve rolls his eyes: just shut up. Both of you.
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>>85166485
https://twitter.com/DWPoop/status/885828687828054017
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>>85166502
>it will literally be a completely different show, it wont be doctor who anymore
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Times_Doctor_Who_Was_Ruined_Forever

The show is quite literally about change, regeneration, transformation. The Doctor being 'recast' as Troughton made it a completely different show, "not Doctor Who anymore". The Doctor being stranded on Earth made it a completely different show. Scrapping the serial format and going with ~45min eps made it a completely different show. etc etc etc.

>like a male doctor/female dynamic isnt the best dynamic for longevity of the show is ridiculous
You haven't even see a female Doctor dynamic yet, you are the one acting ridiculous.
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>>85166422

I was starting to think how War would react, then i became sad.
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>>85166502
>if they do another girl after jodie it will literally be a completely
different show, it wont be doctor who anymore
>to actually and actively act like a male doctor/female dynamic isnt the best dynamic for longevity of the show is ridiculous
Could you try to explain these opinions at all? It's baffling how anybody could think it. Especially when it comes to a show that is entirely built around change and reinventing itself.
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>>85166550
Now you made me sad. Damnit Anon ;_;
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>>85166454
>Of course there will be male Doctors again, 14 most likely will be one.

Making the 14th Doctor male again would be seen as a misogynystic move, and people would think that Whittaker was only a way to seem progresive and gain viewers. Not happening.
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Definatly NOT pro. I would be one of those lifelong (1979 or so) watcher.
You give these buggers an inch, the take the whole football field. So no, I won't be watching it, to do that, would be supporting it.
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>>85166543
>>85166552

Show is about change so change is always good :)))

The doctor can also literally be a fat 4 foot 5 aboriginal. Just because they meet the requirements doesnt mean that never returning to the dynamic that made the show good is smart.

Also we know timelords have a normal gender. If you're so concerned for having a genuinly female doctor character then build them up from the beggining.
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>>85166422
Ten would flirt with Thirteen
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>>85166600
14th is going to be a black male actor. And pls for the love of everything that is good, not Paterson Joseph.
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>>85166526
Honestly, apart from the 50th (which is no longer on the table of course), coming back for a multi Doctor story with another northern Doctor would be the perfect time for Eccles.
I hope she keeps her accent
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>>85166610
>10 and 11 both trying to woo 13 before they realise who she is
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>>85166543
Not to mention the show had plenty of successful years without the "male doctor/female companion dynamic". To think that there is any one combination of Doctor/companion that is perfect and shouldn't be changed and experimented with is absurd.

>>85166608
>Also we know timelords have a normal gender. If you're so concerned for having a genuinly female doctor character then build them up from the beggining.
Oh, are you that person? Is this your nonsensical argument for the day? If it is, I've got to say you're losing your touch.
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>>85166610
It would be funny if he did that before knowing she's him. After he finds out we'll get a barrage of "WOT" and Eleven making fun of him.

> "First a Zygon, and now yourself. You do get around don't you?"
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Which doctors would get an erection from 13?
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>>85166543
Not same anon but i'm also ok with the 13 but i think the same way of the fellow anon

If we are going to have 11 women doctors after 13 (which will never happen even if they wanted to, the series don't have many years left i think) then it would be an appropriation of something that up until 13 was iconic as male. A one-shot is fine, a complete replacement is BS. What if for example they ramake Alien and make Ellen Ripley a man and after that every apparition of Ellen in any media is a male Ellen?
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>>85166600
I don't think the BBC really thinks like that, but I hope you're right. Back-to-back female Doctors would be SHEEP and really solidify it as a viable option going into the future, rather than just a one off.
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>>85166678
Ripley is a woman human. The Doctor is a Time Lord fully capable of changing genders in-narrative. New Doctors aren't rebooting the show, they're continuing it.
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>>85166678
>What if for example they ramake Alien and make Ellen Ripley a man and after that every apparition of Ellen in any media is a male Ellen?
Comparisons like this will never ever work as an argument, anon. There essentially is nothing you can compare Doctor Who too in this way. The Doctor is not remade or recasted, they are one continuous character that changes their body. Nothing is being erased when a new Doctor appears.
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>>85166757
>4 K9
Thanks for the nightmare fuel.
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>>85166796
who's this cute twink?
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My arse are they continuing it, now its gonna be a chick flick. If you ever watched one, you know just how different its now gonna be.
Should have been a spin off, god knows they pushed that angle with Clara hard enough.
But fairly sure a spin off would have died pretty fast, which tells you everything you need to know about why they pulled this shit.
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>>85162680
This. Matt's run basically went off the deep end after S5 and never really recovered until the 50th.
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>>85166601
see you in 2018
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>>85166752

>since they can they should

stop this meme. lets not act like that doctor has usual traits, just because they can change (he can be literally ANYONE) doesnt mean that there are no continuous traits that define him

Example, would it not be weird to NEVER have an english doctor again? we've had what 2 scottish ones? it'd be weird to have every doctor after capaldi be scottish wouldnt it? even though it would completely be fine in canon that doesnt mean the show should do it. fuck why should the doctor even be british? you're gonna have a hard time convincing people that the first 12 men are the same character as the next 12 women.
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>>85166807
zaShunina. Too bad the series shit the bed harder than Kill the Moon.
>tfw ywn own an epic fractal cube "border device" that is basically bigger on the inside
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RTD is sillier than Moff...
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>>85166719
>>85166752

This was not my point. Ripley is one of the most iconic characters of sci-fi and let's be honest a lot more iconic than the Doctor, at least worldwide. Now let's say they make a comic what if where Ripley is a man or where Ripley got her gender changed somehow (this wouldn't even be sci-fi) i dont think anyone would argue, but let's say that Fox choose to make an annuncement and say that they are going to remake the Alien franchise and the lead role will be male, what would happen?

This being said, no one should touch Sigourney's character beside her
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we need a new thread
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>>85165315
Moffat wrote loads of good stories and look what happened with him.
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>>85166922
he showran the best doctor of nuwho and heralded an age of characterkino?
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>>85166917
TLs have been changing gender in licensed media since 1999.
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>>85166908
i can't believe rusty brought back HITLER

he really fucked up matts run. too bad moffat wasn't running it.
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>>85166917
exactly, they COULD do it and make a male ripley and it might even work. but you've still fundamentaly changed the character that was already iconic.
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>>85166917
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>>85166900
is it worth watching?
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>>85166948
but they've still never changed it permanently. they always went back to their original gender.
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>>85166908
What's wrong with this episode again?
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>>85166898
This.
No one should use the "it's an alien race!" as an argument, since the show is made by humans with humans minds and humans cultures, so ofc society effects it.
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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeQIwNDmtY
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>>85166997
its shit

someone make a new thread
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>>85166997
What's right with it?
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>>85167021
it's fun
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>>85166999
>implying doctor who isn't real

get a load of this guy
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSLbyVAepNo
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>>85167003
what did claudia think of the 13 announcement?
>>
Reminder, it would also be stupid, although completely making sense in canon, to never have a female companion again. the doctor who companions, although they can be literally anyone on earth, have been female and changing them permanently would fundamentaly change the show beyond what would be considered a 'doctor who' level of fundamental change.
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>>85167023
Fun is for kids. Doctor Who should be grim and dark.
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>Peter Capaldi, the outgoing star of Doctor Who, was paid between £200,000 and £250,000.

>JUST
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>>85167046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0E83ZsLvgQ
You can watch her reaction.
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>>85167063
source?
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>>85167063
Jodie Whittaker will be paid half of that because she is a woman.
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>>85167063
i wish i had that kind of money

fucking broke as fuck over here in my shed eating pancakes made out of cheese
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>>85166977
Absolutely not. Unless you are only watching the first eight episodes.

The best scifi animes I've watched are Darker than Black S1 + OVAs (extremely reminiscent of Roadside Picnic by the Strugatsky's), Shinsekai Yori (Dystopian) and Evangelion (although this series tends to be longer and has a lot of filler). The fun ones are the Gundams (I especially liked Zeta Gundam, Origin and 00 - war /m/echa anime) and Psycho Pass (S1 + movie only - dystopian).

There hasn't been a solid scifi seasonal anime in a very long time.
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>>85167094 NEW BREAD YOU FUCKERS
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>>85167106
>pancakes made out of cheese
Can you expand on this?
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>>85166975
>I dont know what gender equality is
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>>85166908
I find Moffats idea of taking an important, strong setting and using it solely as the backdrop for a character story really interesting.
To be fair I can only think of two examples but still
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>>85166898
What are you talking about? When did I ever say that the Doctor should never be a man again?

>>85166917
Could you try to distill your point to a single sentence? I don't know what you're trying to argue here.
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Any Shit Trips entries?
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>>85168312
New thread m8 >>85167094
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