Does Dunkike portray how the Anglos thanked the French for protecting

>>85159244
No, it's mostly Americans saving the day, as usual.

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Shh now goy this isn't the kind of question you're supposed to ask

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>muh defeat in victory/epic dunkirk spirit post-war kosher atrocity propaganda blockbuster (It's not "defeat" when our side is losing goy, then we call it a ""successful evacuation"" instead bwahaha)
>muh stabbing our former ally in the back just because he made peace with germany
>muh losing 100% of our colonies after two world wars but at least we firebombed some german cities in the process

The british are a disease

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>>85159244
>frenchies boats want to join you
>bomb them by surprise

I made a huge mistake

I for one can only but hope such a fine moment in British history is shown. Of all the times we triumphed over a French fleet, this was the most decisive and tactically brilliant

fuck off frog

>>85159244
Does Dunkirk portray that the obsession of the "little boats" is mostly nonsense since the majority of men were evacuated from the harbor on large ships?
Does Dunkirk portray that even when "little boats" were used 90% of the time they were crewed by assigned naval personnel, not their civilian owners/crew?

>>85161173
>>85161126
>/tv/ /pol/ complains that most ww2 movies are lol fuck the nazis propaganda movies
>now theres one which focuses on the british soldiers therselvels and not the nazis being bad /pol/ still thinks its cucked

>>85162243
Unironically yes.

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>>85159244
No, it'll probably be British-centered revisionism, like most historical movies made by Americans
Don't expect them to talk about how the French rearguard protected the entire operation while British troops were sitting on the beach

You'll probably get the POV from one of the waiting British soldiers that's "so brave" because he's getting bombed every few hours, and zero mention of the intense fightings between the French rearguard and the advancing Germans just few kms away within the land...

Frogs deserved it for being surrender cucks

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>UK's greatest WW2 battle is a retreat.

>[dole music starts]

>>85161126
wtf I forgot that the German occupation killed 200,000 non-Jewish French now!

>>85161126
>they had cool uniforms and they were polite with ladies so the occupation was ok

This coming from people obsessed with "cucking"

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>>85162510
/pol/ doesn't know what to do with this movie. The usual shitposting threads on it were talking about how it was a jewish conspiracy because it didn't portray the nazi's as heroes, but now they're saying it's the Jews giving it bad reviews because they hate white people

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>>85162984
>it didn't happened
or
>they were commie terrorists

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>>85161126
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre


such a paradise!

>>85163016
There were 200,000 civilian-disguised communist terrorists in France in 1940?

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Seeing how angry stormfags will get by this movie will make my IMAX 70mm tickets purchase all the more worth it.

>>85162960
based nigposter

>>85162995
It's a WW2 movie so they have to rant about even if it's not about the jews, the nazis being bad, and without women or minorities... basically, if it's Hitler dindu nuffin: the movie, then it's kike propaganda

>>85163130
*it's not

>>85161546
It is impossible for us, your comrades up to now, to allow your fine ships to fall into the power of the German enemy. We are determined to fight on until the end, and if we win, as we think we shall, we shall never forget that France was our Ally, that our interests are the same as hers, and that our common enemy is Germany. Should we conquer we solemnly declare that we shall restore the greatness and territory of France. For this purpose we must make sure that the best ships of the French Navy are not used against us by the common foe. In these circumstances, His Majesty's Government have instructed me to demand that the French Fleet now at Mers el Kebir and Oran shall act in accordance with one of the following alternatives;

(a) Sail with us and continue the fight until victory against the Germans.

(b) Sail with reduced crews under our control to a British port. The reduced crews would be repatriated at the earliest moment.

If either of these courses is adopted by you we will restore your ships to France at the conclusion of the war or pay full compensation if they are damaged meanwhile.

(c) Alternatively if you feel bound to stipulate that your ships should not be used against the Germans lest they break the Armistice, then sail them with us with reduced crews to some French port in the West Indies—Martinique for instance—where they can be demilitarised to our satisfaction, or perhaps be entrusted to the United States and remain safe until the end of the war, the crews being repatriated.

If you refuse these fair offers, I must with profound regret, require you to sink your ships within 6 hours.
Finally, failing the above, I have the orders from His Majesty's Government to use whatever force may be necessary to prevent your ships from falling into German hands.


The French boats specifically were not going to join, or even sail to a neutral country.

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>>85163016

>>85163016
>>85163042

reminder that a majority of the french were on favour of the occupation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIGjUyttpU

>>85161126
back to pol with you

>>85163209
Because all these choices, except sunking the ships, would have boken the armistice. Letting the brits have control over the fleet, even just to accompany them to a french port, would have been seen as a breach of the armistice by the germans at that point.

>>85163209
>It is impossible for us, your comrades up to now, to allow your fine ships to fall into the power of the German enemy

And yet Britain did, out of pure cowardice
The bulk of the French fleet (more than 120 ships) was located in Toulon (French coast), but Brits never attempted anything against it because they were too scared of Germans to even come back near French coast before Daddy America was with them
So instead, Brits attacked a tiny French flotilla of 9 ships in Algeria (Mers El Kebir) and the French had to scuttle their main fleet themselves so it wouldnt fall to German hands

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_French_fleet_in_Toulon

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>>85159244
racist shit movie that doesnt have any black leads or latinos. The only people who like this movie are white trash nazis.

join us in rating it down on imdb to send a message to Hollywood about diversity!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5013056/

>>85163209
Commanding officers said that they were in favour of keep on fighting.
>Admiral François Darlan, Commander of the French Navy, promised that the fleet would remain under French control and out of the hands of the Germans.[3]
Surviving french sailors said that they were in favour of joining the british navy and keep on fighting.

Negotiations were led by retards.
>Somerville did not present the ultimatum personally. Instead, this duty fell to the French-speaking Captain Cedric Holland, commanding officer of the carrier HMS Ark Royal. Admiral Gensoul, affronted that negotiations were not being conducted by a senior officer, sent his lieutenant, Bernard Dufay, which led to much delay and confusion. As negotiations dragged on, it became clear that neither side was likely to give way.[19]

>French Navy Minister Admiral Darlan was at his house at Nérac in Gascony on 3 July, and could not be contacted. Admiral Gensoul told the French government that the alternatives were internment or battle.[20]

Brits attacked willing allies without a war declaration. Churchill dun goofed

>>85159244

Apparently the movie doesn't even show the city of Dunkirk.

>>85163426
>doesn't even show the city of Dunkirk.

lol

>>85163220
evidence? no shitty anecdotal german propaganda youtube vid

>>85162995
Jews are always gonna jew bro, thats why people call them rats and shit due to all the sneaky shit they do and lies they tell, aka taking over CNN and using it as a propaganda machine or taking over hollywood etc..

>>85163220
But that's not what he's saying, why are you lying on the internet?

>>85163484
>anecdotal german propaganda youtube vid
So Marcel Ophuls’s The Sorrow and the Pity is a german propaganda film. Sure thing, bro.

4u:
The.Sorrow.And.The.Pity.1969.Part.1.1080p.BluRay.x264-GHOULS
The.Sorrow.And.The.Pity.1969.Part.2.1080p.BluRay.x264-GHOULS

>>85163426
>shoot historical movie on location
>doesn't show the location

>>85163548
He's an old french communist telling on how the resistence was persecuted as bandits.

Full film goes on much more on the passivity and compilicity with the german occupation.
From
>our country was in a moral bankrupcy and the germans could give us jobs
to
>at least the nazis took care of the jews and the comunist that were sinking the country

Couldn't find a full clip, but comes from here >>85163567

>>85159244
I just read one french critic: he's mad because they're barely showing french fighting, Nolan seems to forget that 40 000 french sacrified themselves, and that 120 000 french were also evacuated.

Fucking anglos...

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>boohoo where are my frogs in this british film

I bet you don't complain that Ancient Greek literature is almost all about Ancient Greece though do you?
If the French want a Dunkirk about the French they can make their own fucking movie, just like the Russians can make their own movie about the Eastern Front if they want to, just like the Germans have made dozens of movies about the experiences of their people during the war.
But no, French filmmakers want 3 hours of B&W footage of cigarette smoke wafting in front of a stained glass depiction of Christ and Russian filmmakers are too busy swilling cheap spirits to make anything of worth, so you get nothing, faggot

>>85163862
The issue is that the French were the key players in the Battle of Dunkirk
I know Americans hate France and the French, but rather than unwarrantedly excluding them from moments of history in which they played a major role (like it happened in the American video game BF1 and now in this American movie), American media creators should just choose moments of history in which the French were irrelevant, if it irritate them so much to depict frogs fighting

>>85163958
It's a british movie about the brits sitting on the beach and their transportation from that beach. If pollacks wanted to make a movie about a couple of pollacks fighting off the Germans during Dunkirk they can and have no obligation to show the brits or the frogs in it.

And by the way, you can see the french troops at 1:07 right in the trailer.

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>>85163862

>Let's make a movie about the battle of Dunkirk
>A battle which was a crucial turning point of the war especially because the french army managed to stop the german advance, allowing the british army to escape so they can carry on the fight
>But don't show them

Stop being retarded

>>85164199
There are french troops in the movie, they just aren't the main focus. Stop spewing bullshit without even seeing the film.

>>85164294
But you barely see any of them, a few seconds of a group of french trying to fight back, a few french disguising as brits to be evacuated, it's almost like french people actually sacrified themselves and we don't see any of that, just brits on a beach being all brave about it.

>>85163862
can you stop reposting this shit?

also dunkirk was just a german tactical blunder

>>85163862
>If the French want a Dunkirk about the French they can make their own fucking movie

The French film industry is currently irrelevant. In the current year of our Lord, 2017, the UK's film industry is by far the biggest and most relevant in Europe.

>>85164389
Yes, because it's about the brits on the beach. It's not a history channel documentary, it's a british movie about the brits on the beach.
You don't complain when american ww2 don't show the russians dying in massive numbers. You don't complain when the french make movies exclusively about the french.
If the french want to make a film about their troops, they can.

>>85164488
>You don't complain when american ww2 don't show the russians dying in massive numbers.

Maybe because americans make movies about battles involving americans and not russians?

>>85164544
Well yeah they are not right there, but they are the reason why the war was won.
Just like the french troops in the battle of Dunkirk are not fighting off germans right at that beach, they are fighting inland. And they are acknowledged in the movie, but it's not about them.
That would be just a standard ww2 "lets kill all the nazis" heroic shootout film and Nolan wasn't going for that. It's a suspense movie about scared britbois dodgding stukas, torpedos and bombs with no actual defense.

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If you want a french movie about Dunkirk, watch "Weekend at Dunkirk" with JP Belmondo, it's really good and full of feels

>>85161692
to be fair, the French lost a fleet, the British lost an empire

>>85159244
french are scum and nearly lost the war for the commonwealth.

even the americans are better

>>85164199
>Let's make a movie about the British retreat of Dunkirk, and let's show you that from the PoV of the British infantry
>Should we also jarringly teleport to the French line to shoehorn them into this otherwise focused vision
>no

Smart move by Nolan

>>85166010
Movie is about Brits cowe...wiating on the beach and waiting to evacuate before the Germans reach them
So of course showing the French forces who were slowing down the German advance so that the evacuation could take place would make sense, cretin

>>85161173
>muh stabbing our former ally in the back just because they surrendered again
ftfy

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>>85163348
>being this mad about military defeats

You'd think the surrender monkeys would be used to them by now.

>>85166303
The French were an irrelevance in WWII. They were just a millstone around the Allied necks, and couldn't wait to capitulate.

Defending France was a stupid mistake by Churchill, but at least he made up for it at Mers el Kabir.

>>85166303
And they are shown, but only briefly because that would be turn to a standard ww2 "lets kill all the nazis" heroic shootout film and Nolan wasn't going for that.

>>85166542
>The French were an irrelevance in WWII

For most of the war, indeed
That's why you won't hear anyone whine about them not being depicted fighting in Saving Private Ryan or Fury

But there, Nolan chose the one moment of the war in which they were relevant, and exclude them to focus on Brits that were just waiting on a beach like scared children while frogs protected them from the enemy

>>85166010
>jarringly teleport

That's called a cut

>>85166621
IMDb lists a few French soldiers.

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>It's another "Americlaps deluding themselves into thinking they mattered in WWII" episode

>>85162935
I'm so glad someone else here knows about this. Not even European, but I get annoyed at the 'Frenchmen are cowards' meme.
Without a truly heroic effort on the part of the French soldiers, Dunkirk would have been a complete disaster.

>>85164406
>can you stop reposting this shit?

see
>>85159244

Also, sage.

>>85166622
No, that's called bad storytelling/pacing.
You focus on one thing, not a million things at once. And Nolan finally learned that with Dunkirk and you want him to make an exposition filled convoluted mess again instead because muh frogs.

>>85166775
>Having more than 1 plot thread is bad storytelling

You shouldn't stop taking your Ritalin

>>85162935
Nice revisionism too, because the British fought the Germans aswell , hundreds of thousands of French troops were rescued and made it to England, tens of thousands of British died or were captured by the Germans. Most French were repatriated back to France, and surrendered anyway with very few joining the resistance.

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>>85166621
Cry more.

>>85166836
He has already three non-linear narratives going on (land, sea, air) and you want him to add a yet another front line dealing with a completely different issue alltogether just because "muh frogs"?
Hope you don't plan on having a career as a writer.

>>85161173
I can't stop laughing at that poster.

>>85166936
>hundreds of thousands of French troops were rescued and made it to England
I'm kinda ok with the fact that the movie has to focus on the beach but 0 french soldier being evacuated???

>>85167150
>but 0 french soldier being evacuated???

I dunno I haven't seen the film.

>>85167150
>I'm kinda ok with the fact that the movie has to focus on the beach but 0 french soldier being evacuated???

in that 10 minute preview that was leaked they showed french troops

>>85159244

So glad the brits are getting shit from everyone
>bawwww why am I not in your ww2 movie that you made about yourself!?

now you faggots know how americans feel every time we make a ww2 movie

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Stop whinning, this movie isnt a documentary
For those who want to know what REALLY happened at Dunkirk, here's a great documentary on the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6C5P-AYGdY

>>85166836
it actually is

a movie that has no
>inner dialogue
>flash backs
>time skips
>teleport cuts
>obvious expository dialogue

is kino

>>85167450
tbqh the film isn't exactly glorifying the British all that much and no one says it was Britain's finest hour. Even in the trailer it says it was a colossal military disaster.

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>>85162935
>muh inclusivity

Oh look, another SJW whining about "muh representation".

That's not something you see every day, is it?

>>85167880
>complaining about no niggers at dunkirk is the same as complaining about no french

i don't even care about the french but you're fucking stupid

>>85162935
No, at the start of the movie a British soldier is shown running to the beach while French soldiers guard and protect the beach. They even glare at him while he walks past.

>>85167953
The French are in the movie, you retarded fucking turbofaggot. You've wetting your pants for absolutely nothing. Now call the nurse and get yourself cleaned up FFS.

>>85167953
The French are in the movie protecting the beach. There is even a French soldier who saves the two main characters at one point.

>>85163311
Sailing to french ports or a US port would not have broken the armistice

The brits couldn't allow the french fleet, which had a large number of surface units, to be german, both due the number of units, but also that they where already in good spots to be surface raiders.

has anyone ITT actually managed to see it yet or what

>>85159244
>Be French
>declare war
>get overrun in a month
>resistance is total shit and just fights each other

>>85163209
Next time I pick a fight, I hope I'm as dapper as the chap that wrote this

>>85170833
Saw it yesterday.

I wanted to shit on it, the only nolan films I like are Prestige, Memento, and Insomnia.

it is really fucking good. As in I could argue this is the best film in a decade good. No one does a bad acting job, and many people do a great job acting.

the airplane dogfights are fucking amazing

You go right into the events of the movie, no "This is what going on" and no old guys talking about what a crisis this is.
Just getting to the beach and how in the hell are you going to off it.

bane is really good, so is Mark Rylance, even the singer is good.

The only bad part is it too good for memes and some of the troops on the beach look alike due to haircuts and general looks

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>>85159244
You deserved it, surrendercucks

>>85171279
ah, that's really to hear.

>>85166730
It's not a meme. The French are cowards. They get foreigners to do all the heavy fighting for them and always have

>>85170636
>The brits couldn't allow the french fleet, which had a large number of surface units, to be german

See >>85163348

>>85166730
>but I get annoyed at the 'Frenchmen are cowards' meme.

The thing is, even the people using this meme know this is bullshit but they just do it for banter.

>>85171866
WW1 - 1.3 million killed, 4.3 million wounded, out of a population of 40 million.

thats over 5% of the men killed.

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>>85171866
France actually has a pretty impressive military history

If anything, Britain is the country that always get its allies to do all the fighting only to claim victory at the end (Seven Years War, Napoleonic Wars, Crimean War, WW1, WW2...)

As a matter of fact, while France often fought alone against European coalitions (as you can see on pic), Britain has literally NEVER won any european war by itself without strong allies

>>85172105
This is true, frogs have more wins than losses. They wouldn't have been btfo in WWII if their high command didn't suck.

>>85159244
P E R F I D I O U S
A L B I O N

>>85172105
Britain is an island nation and has never had a huge land army like France, they've always relied on their navy and alliances. The United Kingdom also never shat in its own backyard (Europe) and wanted to take over the continent like the French, because of this the French made a lot of enemies who allied with the UK.

>>85171984
The fleet at Mers-el-Kebir was much more of a strategic threat then Toulon fleet for a number of reasons. Both in location (Much closer to the shipping lanes), ability to set sail, and actual units.

Note that half of the notable units (and all the battleships) that the french had in Toulon were at Mers....

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>>85172203
>be the Brits
>evacuate 120,000 French"""""men""""" from Dunkirk
>repatriate them to France so they can continue fighti ... er, surrender
>mfw

>>85172529
>be the Brits
>evacuate 120,000 Frenchmen from Dunkirk in an evacuation rendered possible by the French rearguard

FTFY

>>85172529
>>85172800
In hindsight, it would have been better to hold the 120,000 troops in England for another week or two and then let them decide if they wanted to be free french or returned to france.

>>85172989
Cowardice meme aside, imagine what it mean for your average dude to join the Free French in 1940
Back then there was no hint that Germany would lose a few years later, for what they knew, it could have remained in power for a lifetime
And joining the Free French meant self-exiling yourself away from your homeland, and thus your family, until the defeat of the Reich

>>85172800
>... so they can just surrender
ftfy

The French did most of the job
That's why the movie is so shit because It's the pov of the one who flee

are french people really pissed off at this movie or something?

>>85173537
Don't see why, France were in on making the film. It's a joint British, American, Dutch and French production. Mostly British but still.

>>85173438
>That's why the movie is so shit because It's the pov of the one who flee
So a ww2 movie has to be a "le heroic kill as many nazis as possible" shootout to be a good movie?

>>85173537
>>85173591
I'm not French, but I'd be pretty pissed off if I was
They're being violently erased from history in the benefit of Brits recently
First with WW1 mass media (BF1, Wonder Woman) and now with the only episode of WW2 in which they did something not too ridiculous

>>85173700
>They're being violently erased from history in the benefit of Brits recently
maybe they should make their own WW2 movies then

>>85173610
You don't see Dunkirk falling during the movie and the soldiers retreating slowly to the beach.
You just see 3 soldiers of the weimar at the end of the movie and one french soldier involved.

>>85173756
Brits are advantaged by American cultural domination, frogs arent
Maybe frogs should have thought twice before defeating Britain in the American Revolutionary War lmao

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bravo nolan, fucking genius

>pissed off both frogs and Hitlerboos
BRAVO NOLAN

>>85162935
The films actually ends with Kenneth Branagh's character saying he's staying behind to help the french evacuate. It's made clear they're the reasons the beaches weren't overrun by the germans.

>>85173537
Not really. As some said before it's not a documentary and it does not focus on the fighting but on the evacuation.
And from the french reviews of the movie I've read only one is complaining about this.


>>85173700
>the only episode of WW2 in which they did something not too ridiculous

Not the only one but the most famous at least.

>>85173833
And why do you need to see Dunkirk falling? Why is it bad to thrown right at the beach at the start of the movie?
This is not a history channel documentary, it's a film.

>>85163862
>Russian filmmakers are too busy swilling cheap spirits to make anything of worth
They did Stalingrad, Brest fortress and shitton of TV WWII flicks. All of them are garbage though, i can only remember White Tiger being sort of good with immortal tankisk meditating on the husks of the bestroyed machines speaking with their souls and then driving off to Valhalla hunting for ethernal Pz.Kpfw VI.

>>85163219
>bad goy look how many 6 millions germans killed
>doesnt matter that we bombed millions of german civilians to death

>A movie that pisses off stormcucks and frenchies?
holy shit sign me up

>>85174565
>>85173899
Like with his previous movies, Nolan wins where it matters: in memes.

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>>85172046
How do you think they became cowards? All their brave men died at Verdun.

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>this is not over, I'm staying for the french *salute*

Wew

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>>85174461

>>85174461
>>85175467
Literally this.

Incinerating Germans was the result of their foolish delusion.

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>>85175467
The nazis entered the war with the rather childish delusion that they could start a fight against the rest of the world and win

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>>85175641
History has already proven that such a feat is possible

>>85174774
>IIRC, that a actual plotline in Ringworld

>>85162960

he doesnt know about the Battle of Britain

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>Its a french poster forgets his beloved French Army was conquered in a couple of weeks episode

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Reminder

>>85177799
that's absolutely terrible and i'm not even a brit

>>85177734
>YFW norway lasted longer then France when it was invaded

The movie has 3 viewpoints it cuts between, Guy trying to get off the beach, civilian boat trying to get to Dunkirk, and air battle. They aren't shown chronologically. As the beach scenes span a week, civilian boat spans a day, and air-combat spans an hour. They all intertwine though in both events and characters.

The best thing about the movie is the sound mixing. This is the type of movie you need to see in the cinema cos guns and explosions are realistically loud and noise of the stuka dive bombers are scary as fuck. The air combat scenes is probably some of the best shot WW2 scenes put on screen in terms of audiovisual realism and also for looking and sounding gorgeous. But it doesn't really feel as tense as I had hoped, might be a flaw in the editing.
Music is effective but not memorable.

Not much of a plot, this is more of a Dunkirk 'the experience'

One or two cringe cheese lines of dialogue.

Never get to see Germans clearly. French are there though and portraid well.

Just the right length.

Would work well with sequels, perhaps Nolan will make a battle for Britain film in the future.

>>85178507
FUCK sequels

this movie was perfect


yeah when stukas were atacking you could tell everyone in the theatre was about to have a heart atack

fucking amazing sounds

the soundtrack was just there to grab you by the balls nonstop and never let go throughout the movie

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>It's another "Angry Krauts/Frogs scream at Anglos" thread

>>85177799
>gulag!
hah

>>85178611
I bet it sounds fucking amazing with the theatrical speakers, as most movies do. That's why ripfags always think movies are trash. They never watch them in their prime environment because they're too fucking poor to buy a $6 matinee ticket.

the germans were portrayed so fucking badass in this

they were always faceless, diffused, you saw their bullets and almost no germans at all

they were so fucking intimidating in this movie it was amazing what not showing something can do

not one word of german, this was so fucking good

>>85178734
yes Im sure people who watched the latest mad max with sound blasting the drums and the music throughout had an immensely different experience than people who just watched it on a laptop

>>85163219
Innocent people get caught up in wars, what's your point
Those numbers are remarkably low for a war that lasted 5 years. Post the German civilian deaths now.

>>85159244
its all well and good you saying that yank, vichy France would have used that fleet against you without a second thought

>>85178800
They did. They had a much better experience.

>>85178948
>vichy France would have used that fleet against you without a second thought

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_French_fleet_in_Toulon

Just came back from watching this.

Pretty, but boring.

>>85179001
forgot to mention I myself had the experience

it was a fucking blast

if this movie wasnt so fucking brutal -even without gore- i would seriously consider watching it for a second time just for those fucking stuka bomber scenes and that fucking opening scene

>>85162960
>America's greatest world war 2 battle is getting their ships bombed across 5000 miles of ocean.

>[School Shooting PSA airs on cartoon network]

>>85161126
tens of thousands car owners tend to agree with you

Just came back from this.

Not that good, some good scenes.

The movie is hollow as shit at some points and gets all british oi oi britain strong at some points, but overall the movie is hollow.

Good sound design though, the stuka sounds were terrifyingly done to good effect.

Backstreetboy teen heartthrobguy was a fucking prick, fuck him.

>>85177799
damn, surprisingly accurate

>>85165580
fuck yeah

>>85171866
go fight some niggers to show us how brave you are

>>85167522
No time skips but Nolan does apparently employ multiple non-linear POVs as a device, which can come off gimmicky if it's not executed with tact and doesn't actually serve a narrative purpose other than "woah, we already saw that happen from the other guy's perspective!"

>>85179522
how did you see it so early?

The movie hasn't even fucking come out yet why are you people talking like you've already see it and know about everything that is shown in it? Jesus fucking christ this is pathetic, even by 4chan standards.

>>85180356
It's out in Europe

>>85159244
If they had a shred of honor the French cucks should have sailed their fleet to Americas or scuttled them, rather than risk them falling into Nazi hands.

>>85180439
Fuck

>>85180356
It came out today in France and other european countries

>>85180453
>If they had a shred of honor the French cucks should have sailed their fleet to Americas or scuttled them, rather than risk them falling into Nazi hands.
>scuttled them
that's what they did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_French_fleet_in_Toulon

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>>85173537
I'm French and I sure am exactly because of >>85173700 which I feel is 100% true.
We get treated like dogshit by the Anglos, it's like we're little better than some obscure niggerland lost in the middle of a remote country and not an acnient powerhouse of Europe.
And don't bother quoting this last line memeing about that what France is exactly that, it would be as disingenuous as it would not be remotely funny.
The cowardice meme was fun and somehow understandable in 2003, fifteen years have passed and only delusional educated people still think it's "light banter" : most people unironically believe this joke as a fact (while one need only look at Italy's performance during the WW to have some perspective on the matter).
Even people from countries we would effortlessly destroy in a war joyfully joke about we're all sissy whining faggots who'd surrender at the first sign of violence. It is beyond insulting to be robbed and barred like that from even a shed of honour and pride regarding our war history as a people and nation. Heck, even regarding solely History.
Fuck you Anglos.

What about all those important and costly battles the Soviets fought? It was them who won the war.

>>85181619
You can still watch soviet war movies

>>85181619
oh so NOW you want to glorify the soviets

>>85180832
I... didn't know you guys were so touchy about it. Sorry

>>85161173
>he made peace with germany
Surrendering I think you mean, we have no concern for cowards.

>>85180349
its already in cinemas in europe, first screening was at 8 PM.
saw it there. some juan direction fangirls were next to me taking photos of the backstreetboy that in the film.

He's a whiny fucking cunt in the picture. Fuck him

>>85182080
here's the down low
- non chronological storyline, but the editing isn't done well imo, should have kept it in one direction (ahem)
- the movie feels hollow, i fucking loved the prestige, inception, but this is really hollow, no emotion strikes me
- fion broadhead or whatever the fuck is bretty good, hated backstreetboys character
- typical british bravura, but they do some acknowledgement that the french are holding the line
- some good shots, but i think that wally pfister would have done a better job
- as most reviews say, the characterization is weak, for example, the omaha beach scene in saving private ryan has more characterization in it than this imo, and its hurting the movie
- hated the fact that they showed text at the begging, it ruined the dread (its starts with the leaflets in the little french town)
- bane saves the day, and its just too much of a heroic moment
- the british are coming scene with the little vessels was fucking stupid, music and shit made it cheesy as shit
- awesome sound design, fucking dive bombers felt like roaring dragons coming to scorch earth

In closing, its difficult to direct a proper war movie today, either you're going gore porn like fury, or something stale as shit like this is.

One thing to note, it's strange if you compare the Dunkirk scene Atonement to this, in Atonement the beach is littered with ... well.. everything, here they're clean and so are the soldiers waiting in line, somehow it doesn't seem realistic. And i've seen enough documentaries and footage from Operation Dynamo to know that Dunkirk's portrait of the beaches isn't what was really there..

See it in IMAX, don't expect to blown away, i thought Inception, The Prestige and even Interstellar are better and i've seen all Nolan movies and this for me is his weakest Hollywood Picture.

>those fucking machinegun sounds coming from the heinkel
>those fucking roaring stukas

It must be something be something in IMAX

>>85180356
Films come out on different days depending on the country, you raging newcunt.

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>>85165856
>what was the French Empire? Why did it start to dissolve after WW2?

>>85159244
Yes it does OP, they show the french getting fucked over by the brits

>>85182996
seems weird to open in france before GB though

>>85159257
Half true at the least
>your entire military gets BTFO
>USA single handedly buys you back into the war
>Don't really step foot in Yurop until Russia, who you were waiting to be crushed, turns the tide of the war

>>85171325
You understand the background of this picture is a German city right?

>>85183026
Mostly because the French people didn't want all the wars keeping the empire together would have warranted.

>>85181847
>throwing convicts and peasants at the germans until they run out of ammo/morale while Loyalist/NCOs and royal guards get all the real work done with better equipment and leadership/strategy
>in any way motivational for the majority of the Russian people
fucking no
While an effective use of all manpower available, it would not be in any way romantic nor heroic

>>85180832
French, the brits, Poland, and greece are the only euro countries that give a shit about your military.