>Can't copy scenes from the books anymore >quality

floppy weiners

>>85067963
It's Walking Dead with knights and dragons now and the new book is gonna be a disappointment too

>>85067963
I liked the Brotherhood Without Banners stuff. Everything else was shit, though.

>>85068008
I think you mean FAT PINK MAST

>>85067963
You arent seeing the bigger picture.

Remember the episode that ended with a modern song out of nowhere?

Remember the plasma grenades from the little alien dudes?

Game of Thrones does not take place in the past....its in the future after nuclear holocaust.

That is the first layer....

Now this is the real red pill.... ITS ALL A GAME.

Ever wondered why the show's intro looks like a RPG boardgame? Not only that but parts are added as the story progresses? Just like a D&D campaign...

Someone is playing a game and has imagined the Game of Thrones world and we are watching the "gameplay".

Who is the game master? Soon you'll find out.

>>85067963
>Can't copy scenes from the books anymore
>quality immediately plummets

I have no love for this show but this is a joke, even with GRRM source material the writing sucked.

>>85068139
Season One was on a whole other level to season 5 or whatever it was when things went completely to shit. Early on the show had nothing one tenth as bad as 'BAD POOSIE'.

>>85067963
I mean they probably have the broad strokes of the upcoming books. He was already pissed about a spoiler last season or something.

>>85067963

this proves /lit/ >>>> /tv/

>>85068327
does /lit/ think hes a hack or do they worship him?

>>85068272
They might have some points but GoT is more than plot points. I know it's only one episode but I had just got done rewatching the last 3 seasons, that episode tonight was very weak. And lame as fuck how they threw in the faggy sam montage, I mean the first episode of the new season where they are on their own they throw in shit like that.

>>85068360
liked before got show started
hated afterwards as a pleb filter

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>>85067963
They were fucking up even when they COULD copy scenes from the book. The hype for the show really went over Dumb and Dumber's heads - they forgot they were below average directors before GOT.

The show peaked with season 3, the liberties they've taken since are astonishingly terrible. I can't believe how much they fucked up Dorne.

>>85068139
>I have no love for this show but this is a joke, even with GRRM source material the writing sucked.
That's because if you've read the books at all you are fully aware that the whole series is utter total shit.

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how come the people /tv/ claim are the worst writers, have the best book to movie/tv adaptions? Stephen King, GRRM, Michael Crichton just to name a few.

>>85068360
They are like any other board where people ree at popular shit but also there are people there who like him.

>>85068520
You haven't even read them

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>>85068119
>>85068436
>Neil shows up and starts talking about space
Honestly wouldn't be surprised

>>85068537
>Stephen King adaptations
>good
Besides the Shining, what?

>>85068085
Game of Thrones post-Season 3 makes The Walking Dead look like a masterpiece.

>>85068632
utter shit is a little harsh, but I've read them and I can see why someone would have that impression. It kind of depends on what your idea of "good" is

>>85068537
You just answered your own question...because they are shit.

Look ive read a couple of SK books and the only way to describe him is as a fucking tease, its like his stories never reach their full potential and just lose steam.

Stephen King is a great "idea guy", I really like his creativity when it comes to the horror genre but not his execution, thats why we like the movie adaptations.

>>85068632
>You haven't even read them
Not only did I read them, I threw them out afterward. If the words and prose weren't so thin throughout I might have used it as toilet paper instead.

>>85068698
Now you're just memeing. As bad as GOT is post season 4, it's still miles ahead of Walking Dead

>>85068670
This. Also Kubrick completely rewrote the story so it wasn't even close to a faithful adaptation. King is a shit writer.

>>85068745
yup, mike tyson said that shit right after the glove wouldnt fit his hand in court

>>85068745
Semi-real. He has been accused of stealing other peoples work. Niggers being niggers.

Every excellent plot point of GoT has been GRRM. When Hodors origin was revealed I knew immediately it was him

>>85068670
Shawshank
Green Mile
The Mist
Carrie
Misery
Stand By Me
Creepshow

>>85068720
>making shit up to try to seem cool

Kill yourself

>>85068119
Go to bed Preston.

>>85068886
that guy youre replying to is pretty cool though, like that last post was hella clever and shit

>>85068700
It's for smart people with brains. It has a lot of names, locations, lore, the dialogue is very powerful, dramatic, yet subtle. It's wonderfully written and really brings the world to life and drags you into it.

>>85068939
I agree. An insult like that is above average in quality.

>>85068958
Does it really say that on the back cover?

>>85069010
It should

Besides being fat and lazy Gurm did nothing wrong

>>85069029
>>85068958
Imagine if the Bible said "It's for smart people with brains." on the back. We'd probably be on Mars by now.

>>85069088
They're good books you fucking moron, nothing you say makes any sense stop posting.

Is Game of Thrones a bad adaption of the books?

>>85068360
there's a fantasy containment general, but asides from that most people are more into more highbrow literature. i don't think most people care about him one way or the other

>>85068860

Was that really a good plot point? I would have preferred hodor was just a normal bro-tier retard

>>85068183
That's because the writers still had people with oversight and veto power above them.
The more successful it got, the more leeway they got and the worse it got

>>85069146
It has some bad moments but overall it's definitely one of the better adaptions I've seen

>>85069146
Not really, when they actually had the books to go off of it was mostly pretty good with some small exceotions.

>>85067963
>most boring episode 1 yet
Nigga this was a great episode.

If you consider an episode like Battle of the Bastards to be 10/10 then you are such a pleb.

An episode that spends time on each character instead of just action is far better

>>85069146
No, they're bad too.

>>85069266
The fact that Bran can change the past is huge and the reveal of that has to be something significant, which it was. It's not like the reveal changes Hodors character in any way since he dies immediately

>>85069311
Why?

>>85068925
kekarooni and cheese

>>85067963
>>quality immediately plummets

I actually think it improved a lot.

>>85068119

This would be the worst.

>>85069398
explain

>>85069341

Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah I agree that aspect of it is cool. I guess I was just focusing on the fact that I didn't think hodor needed some magical backstory. But I agree the reveal that bran already changed the past is very interesting

>>85067963
I don't think I want to watch it anymore to be honest. It's just shit, can't even sit through 1 episode. Dropped

>>85069306
Nobody mentioned BOTB. But that was even a far better episode. Yes spending time on mutliple characters is fine and most episodes do that anyway, it was just boring and the dialogue wasn't very good either. I don't mean boring action wise only, it's more than that.

>>85069432

Personal preference, I guess. I'm not a book reader, so fidelity to the source is immaterial to me. What I've noticed since they overtook the novels is that there's more of a narrative focus. It's still sprawling, but less meandering. On top of that, they seem to have doubled-down on the sense of foreboding because of the point in the story that they're at. There's a lot of weight to even the more mundane scenes. Also, stuff like that great cleaning montage... I feel like before that would've been six episodes of b-plot because that would be like all of Sam's POV chapters for a book or something.

>>85069459
>can't even sit through 1 episode

ADHD

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Was it just me, or was the dialogue particularly modern feeling in this first episode?

I know the dialogue has become more anachronistic as the series progressed, but this episode was particularly jarring.

>>85068490

>>85069553
>Nobody mentioned BOTB. But that was even a far better episode.

They're both great, and completely different. The fact that we can get both in one show is amazing.

>>85069587
It's just bad. I'd rather shitpost for an hour.

>As Jon and Dany prepare for the final battle way up north, GRRM will appear and tell the viewer he is the stories true worst enemy

>>85069562
>I feel like before that would've been six episodes of b-plot because that would be like all of Sam's POV chapters for a book or something.

A gross exaggeration..that scene was cringey and misplaced.

>>85068670
>King hated the only kino adaptation of his work
A hack through and through

It was a shit episode but Book 4 and 5 are really bad compared to the first 3 books.

>>85068085
George RR Martin will deliver Lynch bookino, but it takes time lad to catch the big fish. Transcendental meditation has no deadline.

>>85069591
I was feeling the same

>>85069562
Where's the inner conflict? It's just people doing things at this point.

The only person uncertain of himself is Jaime - but that's where he's been at for 4 years. There's no dynamic characters.

>>85069767
Name one character who hasn't gone through a big change

>>85069698
>A gross exaggeration..

Is it? There have been several times where it's felt like character progression is in a holding pattern over several episodes, when one or two episodes would have done. From some of Dany's wandering to some of Arya's training and the torture of Theon.

>that scene was cringey and misplaced

Strongly disagree, we clearly want quite different things from the show.

>season one stuck to the book
>was the only good season and best book for that matter

huh, really makes you think

>>85068119
Would literally save the series. To have turned out as a troll on the plebs who still watch it none ironicly; the show they love is a lie... ha

Game of Thrones is a soap with swords and dragons setting. It's Dallas in ye olden times. If you enjoy it you are nothing more than a stay at home home enjoying a visit from her only friends.

>>85069767
>Where's the inner conflict? It's just people doing things

what does this even meeeeeeeaaaaan

>>85068119
Yes, spoiler, it's the Jewish cabal pulling the strings. More and more in the open if you're paying attention

>>85069805
Yeah you're clearly a fucking plebian who wants everything streamlined and instant gratification, packed with epic funnny scenes for comedic relief. Get some fucking taste, you must be underage.

>>85069146
It's a great adaptation of the first book, a decent adaption of the second and third books, and a terrible adaptation (if you can even call it that) of the fourth and fifth books, which are messy and plodding in and of themselves. This series literally only exists because of Ned's death and the Red Wedding. Those two twists were the strokes of brilliance that inspired GRRM to write the series in the first place, and they're why the show gained so much hype. It's all downhill from there because the author didn't know how to wrap up his own story and the showrunners are complete hacks who got incredibly lucky with this series.

>>85068670
The Night Flier u idiot

>>85069767
>>85069804

Literally the only character to actually go through satisfying narrative change having dealt with personal conflict (as opposed to progression, which most characters have gone through) is Sansa. She went from wanting to be a Southern princess to what she is now. Every other character has just become more of what they already were.

>>85069871
This sums it up.

>>85069871
Kinda like Berserk?

>>85069591
>>85069764

agreed, sansa and jon's conversations in particular

>>85068360
Everyone on /lit/ loves him. Only the try hards don't

>>85069869
>if you don't share my tastes everything about you is awful

Alright mate. I can't really take your taunts seriously, seeing as how you resorted to immature insults instead of continuing what I thought was quite a nice discussion.

>>85069804
Since they started making OC? None.

>>85069841
In the first season Ned doesn't tell Robert about his 'kids', but instead does the honorable thing and tells Cersei. He wants to do both, but he has to pick one. He's at conflict with himself.

What comparable dilemmas have occurred in the last four years?

>>85069893
>Who is Theon, Jaime, Arya's identity crisis, The hound

I was expecting them to start slow clapping for female inscription and empowerment desu

>>85069965
>Jaime, Arya

How are they not the same as they were from like Season 2 on?

>>85069965
Fizzled, postponed, botched, reversed

Can you imagine them chopping off Jaime's hand if that wasn't written for them?

>>85069946
There's no having a conversation with someone as retarded as you, if you don't see why that shit montage was ill placed while at the same time dogging the books then you're just a shit taste pleb.

>>85069841
You have to go back

>>85069994
Jaime has had a massive change ever since he got his hand cut off and Arya had her identity crisis and became a hardass. She is a little mary sueish ill admit.

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>>85068871
ive never seen someone get btfo so thoroughly

>>85068486
>were

>>85070076
Yeah she's Arya Stark of Winterfell, and also "No one" with magic powers she didn't earn.

And she has a jetpack.

>>85069964
How about when Arya wants to continue her training but can't give up needle the sword jon gave her so she hides it?

>>85069930
damn this hit home

really sucks when you realize all of berserk is written just so the golden arc and eclipse could happen, which frankly, is some of the best written/illustrated fiction ever created, but everything else is pretty mediocre or straight up bad

>>85070076
>Jaime has had a massive change ever since he got his hand cut off

From what to what? He's the same guy without a hand.

> Arya
> became a hardass

She was out-gunning Bran from episode one and getting a sword gifted to her by Jon, she's always been a hardass. Literally training to kill in one way or another from the beginning. From Cereal Foreal onwards in earnest.

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>fat virgins angry that women are doing things in the show instead of just getting married off or raped

>>85070124

See, I loved the Sam montage. What was cringe to me was the scene of Arya as Walder Fray.

>>85070139
12 yo homesick girl. such plot much wow.

>>85068720
>If the words and prose weren't so thin throughout
>actually using the term "prose" unironically
I bet you wear scarves

>>85069146
Eh its okay. As the show got more popular, the less stuff they used from the books though for whatever reason. They also fucked Dorne and Stannis in the ass. I couldn't watch shit with Dorne, I had to skip it was so bad

>>85067963
>>cheesey pleb television shit like the poop clean routine
that shit was pretty fucking retarded

>>85070139
The setup is copied from the books.

The payoff is that she decides to leave and goes and gets her sword and then she leaves. She picked up a magic spell, but no change in ethos.

>>85068101
BWB shit sucks compared to the books. Instead of being vengeful outlaws murdering freys in the name of zombie cat, theyre following a fag to go fight faggy wights

>>85067963
>>the poop clean routine

what the actual fuck did he mean by this?

>>85070223
Called it from the first shot of Walder.

Oh, it's Arya and she's going to kill all these extras.

Remember when the show killed people whose name you knew? Jory would be a nameless extra in season six.

>>85070184
Jaime lost his entire image with his hand, I am not going to explain it all but the guy use to be an arrogant asshole who never interacted with his children. His character has had a lot of change

>>85069752
>Transcendental meditation has no deadline.
Except for a literal DEADline, for a man who likely has 8 years tops to live considering his weight and age, with two books left to write taking a minimum of 6 years to write each.

>>85069591

I think it was a new one.

>>85070339
He'll die before book seven comes out but Elio and Linda will tap that shit out in a couple months. They know the story better than him anyways.

>>85069871
Unless he was smart enough to end it with another twist, that would justify all this

>>85070386
I'm pretty sure he's not even working on the books anymore. What's the point? Everyone will know how they end already, plus he's already rich as fuck from the show. Why write at all when you can just shovel food into your mouth all day until you croak in the few years you have left and never run out of money?

>>85070198
>using xd virgins as an ad hominem argument

>>85068119
>Who is the game master?
It's clearly GRRM. The show will end in the midst of the climactic battle, in the final minute of the final episode, as it fades into a pan up to him behind his dungeon master's screen, dramatically monologuing rather than letting the players (the cast rping as their characters) participate. Suddenly Leda Haley interrupts complaining about her being turned into a side villain when she wanted to fight the ice king too, but Emilia Clarke is having a great time. Everyone starts arguing and Alfie Allen calls GRRM out for totally stacking the deck in the womens' favor and everyone figures out he was just trying to get laid and they all storm out. The end.

>>85068745
Are you even real?

>>85068871
Why do his stories always have either voodoo bayou magic or aliens in them?

>>85068958
I prefer books for smart people without brains. People so smart they don't even require brains. Like you.

>>85069345
Have you seen the show?

>>85068520

Why is it utter shit? It has some issues with pointless edginess and cringe sometimes but I don't think that negates the good aspects

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>>85068871

Damn that is pretty solid.

>>85068670
Thinner
I'LL SHOW YOU THE CURSE OF THE WHITE MAN FROM TOWN

>>85070790
This probably sounded better in your head.

>>85069276
This. Remember all the posts in /tv/ mocking Dabid and Dan as they ran out of writing material? I picture those two living together, in a room 4am naked from the waist down, Dan on all fours with papers scattered around, David on a couch smoking meth. Dan frantically whispering and shaking looking at papers and yelling bright ideas at David. Hey Dabid, what if we make strong women Dabid, like the type we hire that do all those humiliating things to us Dabid! Like that one who was saying bad pussy and hurting my butt Dabid!

>>85069591
The conversation involving ed felt that way to me

>>85067963
Why can't he keep writing it?

>>85068490
my feel when never watched got after s3

Here's my question

So the show and the book are very pro-feminist and shit, and that's fine, Westeros is a medieval society and the point is that everything is shit and backwards.

But then why is it that the show just makes most of the 'empowered' women psychotic bitches, whilst the men are rational, reasonable and more sympathetic?

Dany literally wanted to burn down all of Slavers bay and slaughter thousands with her dragons, and it was Tyrion who held her back.

Sansa didn't tell Jon about the Knights of the Vale and got her brother killed, then suggests inane bullshit making Jon's life as difficult as possible.

Cersei is clearly fucking insane and completely obsessed with power and killing everyone. Jaime is the one who is clearly seen as the foil to that insanity as the one who has developed into a likeable character.

Arya is completely driven by revenge and murders people ruthlessly because of her own twisted view of Justice.

Yara is a fucking bitch and abuses Theon, whilst also being clearly fucking incompetent during the Kingsmoot and trying to save Theon.

The only exception was probably Margaery, who at least had a motive that didn't want to get innocent people killed, but now she's a pile of ectogoo in the ruins of the sept.

Do the shows writers realise that all they're doing is showing any woman who ends up in a position of power as crazy bitches?

>>85072244
It's because these people work with what's known as the progressive stack.
It essentially means that the more oppressed you can claim to be, the more you can get away with, and the more you need to be catered to.

They genuinely don't see them as people, just as something to boost their progressive power level

>>85067963
>implying books are good

Does anyone have a link to the first episode?

>>85069871
good post my friend

I haven't watched anything since season 4 when they started to do their own thing.

Have I missed anything at all?

>>85068670
salem's lot

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>>85068871
you deserve a good funeral after that, at least

Isn't it great, now you guys get to spoil the bookfags, unless the writer makes a different ending.

>>85075585
Most likely will make a different one if there's any backlash. We already know that stannis doesn't die

>>85075585
>implying he's going to live long enough to release an ending

>>85067963
>quality immediately plummets

is that even possible ?
i mean last seasons were already crap

>>85068119

The show lacks all subtlety and blew its load with the white walker origin too early to have such a twist.

You overestimate the competence of d&d

>>85075651
What's the bookie odds on him dead before finishing the books?

>>85072244
Interesting how you do not mention Olenna or wee baby Mormont.

>>85072244

The show writers want GoT to still be "realistic" and "edgy", while they also pull that feminist crap. They want their cake and to eat it too. But you are wrong about danny, she is easily the worst mary sue in the show (far worst than Jon Snow), and it shows that both the writers GRRM cannot write a good female protagonist.

>>85075761
pretty good, winds is still nowhere in sight

>>85068119
You just described the plot for Prince of thorns.

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>>85069832
>i'm a home

>>85075917
That the last or second last book?
Tv watchers would have fun flaunting over the readers, especially when there's a chance they never would finish.

>>85075761
he's sitting on such a mountain of gold with those books, I wonder why he doesn't just find someone to help him finish it. There are a lot of famous authors who have people help them write their books, its all very hush-hush though.

>>85075999
second to last, the show will 100% finish before a new book is out

>>85067963
Does this guy even have offspring to complete his unfinished work when he dies soon? At least Wheel of Time got finished.

>>85076002
I think he's pissed off and delaying out of spite.

>>85076095
>Does this guy even have offspring to complete his unfinished work when he dies soon?

Would you really want them too? Id rather they pull a Pratchett and just let it go.

I know its not a fair comparison since Pratchett only left a little unsaid but as it stands the discworld series is whole-ish. I don't think there really is a loose plot line, Moist Von Lipwig trilogy, Watch series, The Witches, Death books, and the shitty mage all have gotten to a point you can end at. The only plot line I can think of that wasn't resolved was The Librarian.

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>>85068119
>It all took place inside the imagination of an autistic child
I'd be okay with this

>>85076095
>Does this guy even have offspring to complete his unfinished work when he dies soon?

I don't think Massa Jawge actually has any brats. We're counting on you, anon.

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>>85076541
>We're counting on you, anon.

""I am a muscular lesbians"said Obara Sand "now die Dark Star"
"lel no" said Ser Gerald he ran he sowrd thru her guts and out the back "stick around" he added.

>>85068119
>game master is Sam

BRAVO

>Robb and dad made stupid decisions and they died
>it was literally fucking Sansas wet pussy that got them both killed
I cringed and raged so hard at the same time

How fucking dareD&D?

This was easily one of my favorite season premieres of any season of Game of Thrones. It's a testament to the show's staying power and quality that even this far in, a season's first episode could be so good. So much of it was just setting the stage, and yet I was reeled in, hook, line and sinker, from the opening moment to the closing credits.

>>85077714
Thanks mr Goldstein

>>85075403
>he doesn't know

>>85070771
>stand by me

>>85067963
I think it's just proof that the writers of the show are absolute hacks. They had to copied the book word for word in the beginning, and now that material is no longer available, it's revealed to us that these two semen absorbing fuckwits couldn't write a decent story to begin with.

>>85068360
His prose are trash, world building is pretty gud.