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After finding out the new Doctor Who is a woman, apparently the Master is now a woman as well?

Won't be watching it now..
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>>85034969
I feel like anyone who watches Dr. Who is already a nutless self-hating nu-male, so I don't really see who'd be upset by this
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>>85034969
You will never have sex
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>No doctor who general
I guess the anon is too distraught with the news to post a general.

Anyway all I wanted to say is this:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Turning a male character into a woman
Yeah no this doesn't work. I missed season 8 so I have no idea why the Master became a woman but I don't care. The doctor however is male because he has always been male and if they wanted more females in the show then get more females. How hard is it to make strong female companions or other characters who guide the doctor?


I cannot wait for my friend to find out about this cos he told me the other day he is ditching the show if the doctor was a woman

Time for me to rewatch the first Doctor episodes because those are masterpieces
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So The Doctor will change her name to "The Nurse" now?
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>>85034969
I think the master was a female last season or something.
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So is the doctor gay now? Does he still like girls? Or does it make her gay if she likes boys? Is River Song and Rose Tyler sexist if they don't go down on her snatch?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IczjLYCIM
New Doctor Reveal
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My hetero white male identity is literally threatened
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Haven't watched this for years but it sounds like it went to shit before this, OPs pic being a good example. Looks like a show on its last legs and writers trying to come up with shitty gimmicks and ideas before it sinks for good. Moffat especially is a hack, lots of style and promise but no payoff, just look at the shitshow Sherlock has become.
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>>85035554
According to Dr. Who logic, every time a Time Lord regenerates it's basically a coinflip wether "he" regenerates as a man or woman.
According to the law of propability it was about damn time he turned into a woman!
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>>85034969
>Won't be watching it now..
You apparently haven't watched it in four years so what you should have said was "I will continue to not watch it." In which case who the fuck cares? Solid thread OP.
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>>85037581
>According to Dr. Who logic, every time a Time Lord regenerates it's basically a coinflip wether "he" regenerates as a man or woman.
This is wrong. Time Lords can control their regeneration, The Doctor is just a shitty Time Lord and never learned how to do it, which is why he also goes bug fuck every time he changes.
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>>85037581
>According to the law of propability it was about damn time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
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>>85037702
Well if this is not true, try flipping a coin face up 13 times in a row.
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>>85037764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1SJ-Tn3bcQ
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>>85037279
>inb4 he fucks a black guy and says some dumb shit like "I should do this more often!"
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>>85037764
That isn't a comparable scenario at all. The fallacy is thinking that because you get heads several times in a row that you're somehow more likely to get tails now when in reality the chance is always 50% on each flip. You made the same mistake by saying the chance is a "coinflip" for male or female regeneration and claiming the "law of probability" somehow held that he was more likely to get a female regeneration now. If the chance is 50% it doesn't matter how many times you get one result instead of the other, your next result will still be a 50% chance.
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>>85034969
Just wait to see the new Doctor's companion, strong black man in control dominant. Too predictable and will destroy the story line forcing all this diversity and nonsense. BORING.
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>>85037854
Oh no. Oh no no no
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>>85037854
>dominant black guy companion, Doctor walks out of the Tardis a little funny, but with a smile of satisfaction on face, dominant alpha male walks out behind Doctor all smiles like he emptied all his reserves in Doctor
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>>85037862
Take a deck of 50 cards. There are only 2 types of cards. One with the number 1 on them and one with the number 2 on them. 25 each.
Now shuffle the deck.
According to your logic the chance of drawing 25 cards with the number 1 on them is = 50%... yea right.
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>>85038227
can't tell if brainlet or bait
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>>85038227
25 cards in a row, I mean.
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>All these salty people in the FaceBook reveal comments
Why does it matter? If it's good science fiction and is written well I couldn't care less. I love this show and I'm excited to see where it goes.

She was good in Black Mirror.
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>>85038270
http://calculator.tutorvista.com/coin-toss-probability-calculator.html
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>>85038227
That's wouldn't be statistically independent you retard. Each card in your new example would affect the probability of the next card because you'd be changing the population of possible results by decreasing the number of cards left. I don't know why you're failing to understand this so badly. It would be unlikely you'd get 12 coinflips in a row landing heads. That says absolutely nothing about how likely it would be that the 13th coinflip would land heads. The chance of each coinflip landing heads is 50%. The universe doesn't remember there were 12 coinflips landing heads in the past and balance that out by giving you a greater than 50% chance of tails on the 13th coinflip. That's not how reality works.
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>>85038399
But each individual card you pull is a 50% chance.
So even after the 13th time it would still be a 50% chance...
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>>85038564
No, there's a difference between dependent and independent statistics. You card example would only be the same as the coin example if your deck had an infinite number of cards. Getting heads on a coinflip doesn't remove any possibilities from your next coinflip. Getting one particular card in a limited deck of 50 cards like in your example would remove one possible card from your next pull.
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>>85038382
It would be unlikely you'd get 12 coinflips in a row landing heads in the first place. That doesn't make the 13th coinflip landing tails a greater than 50% chance. A preceding independent series of one result happening more likely than normal doesn't make the chance of the next time happening the other way more likely. You can get a few heads in a row on coinflips, that's not impossible, and it won't make either heads or tails more likely on your next flip because the coinflips are statistically independent. The coin isn't remembering how often it landed heads in the past.
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>>85034969
Is that the woman from Green Wing?
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>>85037465
Pretty much this. It's probably the last season.
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>>85036896
look up the definitions of doctor and nurse before saying retarded things
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>>85038368
>If it's good science fiction and is written well

It won't be.
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>>85034969
The Master became a woman years ago
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>>85035031
/thread
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Isn't half the fanbase for this show teen girls who want the Doctor to fuck them with his British cheek bones?
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>>85038368
>If it's good science fiction and is written well
I take it you haven't seen the last 5 seasons?
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I haven't seen any Capaldi episode. Was he good?
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>>85040175
Yeah, so even the female fans will probably hate this.
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>>85040566
Stories were meh, he was great (as he progressed)
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>>85037764
It's been established that a Time Lord changing sex is rare, and usually reverts back afterwards.
This is the first female Doctor, and it will also be the last (and not just because it will be cancelled before she has a chance to quit.
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>>85038227
As a high school math teacher, this makes me incredibly sad...
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They never should have made Doctor romantically interested in anyone.

There is nothing wrong with making a woman timelord, but now show is being put into an icky situation and a majority of fans would be... upset if Doctor suddenly became gay.

The Doctor is asexual and should remain this way.
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>>85034969
The next Doctor will be black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbFRYF-bbM
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>>85045795
I would rather have a black man than a white woman.

Same goes for presidents
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People are complaining the new Doctor isn't black. There's no satisfying these people.
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>>85034969
It was always a show for weirdos. Its just they were scifi weirdos until nu-who. Now its for soyed out chinless fags who dress up in dead mens clothes they got from a charity store. Not to mention the legions of early pubescent nerd gurls who schlick it to goofy Brits. I doubt it will effect their viewership. May (continue to) alienate people who might otherwise watch it. If they can slog through that episode where we got "Jesus was black","history is a whitewash" and they kept a straight face while Georgian England was 50% black a memespouting harpy isn't gonna be their final straw.
>>85035031
this
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>>85045897
because a black doctor would have been way better and far less jarring? Imagine the fun as he experiences history as a black person, it was already referenced before with Bill. Now we're just gonna get "le quirky trans" vibes, awful just awful
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>>85035554
>Time for me to rewatch the first Doctor episodes because those are masterpieces

The absolute state of Doctor Who criticism
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>>85034969
Will she have a male companion or will it be two girls travelling about? Won't that make some of the more historical situations more difficult?
When women were treated differently?
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>>85038399
>>85038382
>>85037862
>>85037581
Retards! Chance of choosing male 13 times in a row is: 1/8192. It's extremely unlikely. It's much more likely that the doctor would be female this time.
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>>85045953
>IMMAGINATIONS
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>>85034969
Just watch it. It might be good but will probably be about how men are shit and women are great instead of about characters.
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>>85045897
I'm not going to rest until the Doctor is played by a pair of gender-fluid, mixed race conjoined twins.
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>>85034969
The master has been a girl for 3 straight seasons, and if you haven't caught an episode with her, she's actually the best master hands down.
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>>85034969
With the amount of hamfisted 'progressive' references they threw into the latest season, this should not be the least bit surprising
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>>85039235
Dr Gender Studies
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>>85046030
>When women were treated differently?

This is something that I feel needs to be addressed.

One of the big reasons a Male, White doctor worked was because they could travel to literally any time in the past and be OK. He can always explain his companion away in one way or another. But changing her to a female changes a LOT of how an average person would interact with her up until what, like the 1960s?
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>>85046109
Technically, it'd be 1 in 16,384 if you count the War Doctor.

But, let's say that Gallifrey is equivalent to Earth and that there's 7 billion Time Lords/Ladies alive at the time of the Doctor's birth. If they all live to at least their 14th generation that means that at this time there's ~430,000 Time Lords who have only lived as one gender.
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>>85046228
didnt she die after the PE teacher was turned into a cyberman. i watched a bunch of seasons episode by episode backwards in order just so i could post in the comment section on the site that was streaming episodes about shit that happens from the episode after that constantly with spoilers... take that time lords
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>>85039235

I don't think you got the joke...

>Doctors are boys
>Nurses are girls

Get it, now? It's top kek!
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>>85037764
it is just as probable as flipping 9 heads and then a tails
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>>85046109
retard! chance of choosing male 12 times in a row and then female is: 1/8192. It's extremely unlikely!
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>>85046378
because the 1960s is the best era when you can explore literally all of space and time.
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>>85046809
Unlikely =/= impossible! And in a show where the impossible happens basically every episode, saying something is impossible is a stupid argument.
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>>85046109
Unlikely =/= impossible! And in a show where the impossible happens basically every episode, saying something is impossible is a stupid argument.
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>watching Moffat-era Who

literally why

literally

literally

w h y
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y
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>>85037465
Yeah, I honestly think the fanbase has no idea how close the show is to be cancelled.

The fact the budget's gotten bigger and bigger and the show keeps looking glossier is hiding the fact it's completely tanking. Seriously, viewers are well down, Merch sales went from globally massive to dwindling amounts and ratings of the show have plummeted too.

I'm honestly unsure about whether the beeb will continue it after 2020, when the contract for it runs out.

The female Doctor thing is a last ditch attempt to conjure up some interest before it finally goes for another 5 year hiatus or longer
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>>85038842
yes
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>>85046809
Actually the chance of 12 male and 1 female is ~1/630. Much higher than 1/8000
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>>85047032
How much do viewers mean though when you are funded by the television license?
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The chance of the first 13 Doctors (including War) being Male was 1/8192. We're already at that point so it's irrelevant, the chance of the next Doctor being female was always 1/2
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>>85034969
Welp, I was really hoping for pic related. Maybe next season.
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>>85047090
not what i said. quite sad that you know less about probability than most 15 year olds
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>>85047090
Where did you go to school? They should close it down.
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>>85047149
I feel like he's too big for Dr Who.
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>>85047025
Masochists
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>>85034969

Yeah, fuck this fag dyke male hating piece of shit show. Davies, the literal fag wasn't as much of a balls less cuck as Moffat is. Moffat probably has his wife's remote dildo up his ass. Fuck this show and fuck the BBC.


>>85035554
Fuck Doctor Who. After Tennant it all went to shit anyway.

>>85037279
This is why I hate the cultural marxist agents that's ruining entertainment. If i could kill them all I gladly would. And these fuckers are audacious enough to call this show, children's programming. Killing them all is the only way.

>>85038368
Davies the literal fag wrote some great Who. when He was in control of it Moffat curbed some of that cultural marxist bullshit. Davies the fag left and Moffat wrote out right fag material. I hate Moffat.
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>>85037581
No, the concept of cross gender regens was never even discussed in the original run and it was only joked about in stuff like the Red nose day special.

The first time was Master into Missy, purely because of Moffat's shitty need to have the protagonist have sexual tension with the antagonist instead of writing a compelling villain because it's easier and it paid off in Sherlock.

He couldn't do it in Who since the character have about 50 years history, instead of Sherlock's "Re-imagining", so he just wrote an entirely new character who was female instead, even going as far as to change her name, so he could shoehorn in his "usual motifs" instead of actually trying with his writing.
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>>85047324
Maybe, but he's just as tall as Baker and Pertwee.
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absolutely loving all the right wing snowflakes getting triggered by this desu youtube comments are gold
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>>85034969
She's actually a great Master.
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>we want strong iconic female characters
>but they're not strong enough to stand on their own so instead they'll just ride the coattails of existing male characters
What did feminists mean by this?
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>>85047116
It means everything if not more. The BBC can't spend huge amounts of the public's money on shit no one wants, it goes against its obligations as a public service that are legally bound by the BBC Charter.
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about time, i'm mean, it was starting to become ridiculous that the doctor never became a woman once.

too bad the writing will still be awful and sjw level.

man, all the old guard ips are just in complete ruins to me, star wars, star trek, who, spider-man, the dc heros, marvel comics, disney movies, pixar movies.

western TV is the only last place for not shit writing and stories.
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>>85047947
>ridiculous that the doctor never became a woman once
>complains about awful sjw writing

You're all kinds of confused, aren't you?
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>>85034969
>your going to live long enough to see the Doctor get blacked

Just fuck my show up
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>>85047116
Ehhhh, I suppose they have some breathing room but even still, you can't justify your flagship series, which is taking up your prime weekly spot on your main channel, completely struggle to stay afloat.

In fact this anon>>85047916
is probably right, it's more of a burden if anything.
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>>85048007

as i understand it, its random and the doctor could always be regen'd into a female form.

so, law of averages says that should have happened by now.

i would have prefered rupert grint my self.
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>>85036896
Women can be Doctors too.
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>>85048145
They'll attribute it to being influenced by Missy, like they did by referencing the Pompeii episode to explain Capaldi
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>>85048145


>>85047386
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so...we're going to get a male companion next right? i am sorry, a woman dr, a woman lesbian companion, and a female master...i could watch that if its good but it would need to be very good because it just feels alienating to me as a guy, sorry, just how i feel.
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>>85046574

The Master never stays dead.
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Kek. Woman ruin everything they come in contact with.
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I've never seen a fan base so salty. Reminder that you will still watch it because you have nothing else.
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>>85048310

Yea just like all those new movies with a diverse class. This is going to fail and its going to be hilarious.
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Should have been done in the 80s to get it over with, so this would make less of an impact. But now that we're here, this is only the beginning. Quite certain that a negro Doctor will come forth afterwards, a ginger inbetween, an old woman as the Master before the Doctor does as well. Transsexuals likely never, thankfully.
None of this matters, the writing will remain shitty. However, it is forced. Pandering. A decision made not because of good ideas, but to further your agenda. And this is just a gender. It should not influence the writing whatsoever, but it will. Because, nowadays, more than ever before, everything has to be political because you're brainless and can't think of anything else. Because you don't know how to actually help people.

it's just boring.
thankfully, I don't really watch this show very much. It always has had really awful writing
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>>85035031
I don't understand why you guys kept watching the 12th doctor which was just as bad
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>>85048310
It's the worst guilty pleasure I have. I watch and I constantly think "this is so shit" but I can't stop myself.
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>genderbending
Anime always does it better. Why the fuck can't the west put non-normal things into shows without it feeling awkwardly shoehorned? It's so embarrassing watching a television show trying to be lgbtqqtvkfjfkj positive when it's so blatantly being pushed in your face for the sake of activism. In anime it's just a fetish thing, and it works. No messages being pushed, no dumb idealogical shit. Everything exists purely for the sake of being an entertaining story. Fucking retard westerners, of course people get mad when you have people trying to tell the audience that white people are evil and all this blatant political bias. Just fuck off and let people who masturbate more write your shows.
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so I'm guessing the 14th doctor is going to be Idris Elba?
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>>85047573
>Capaldi is new Doctor
Left wing feminists are pissed
>Whittaker is new Doctor
Right wing /pol/tards are pissed
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>you now remember the Time Lord that regenerated from a straight white male into a likely lesbian black female
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doctor who is a shit show that only faggots and southamericans watch
it actually shows the state of england
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>>85048890
I've actually been wondering this. Will we ever see another white male doctor again?

This regen sets the precedent for greater diversity, and I've already seen people complaining about him not being a POC. Surely, they'll have to keep going down this route?
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>>85049164
well this is the UK there wont be any white people left in 5 years
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>friend of mine being pissed off I'm deciding to stop caring about Doctor Who past Peter Capaldi because it's a woman
>had to go on a post about how disappointed she is and said if you won't even give the new Doctor a chance you're not a "real fan"
>nobody else on my side

Is it because the doctor is a female that people are suddenly super judgmental that one refuses to watch Doctor Who? Did this shit happen when other fans stopped watching cuz the doctor looked 'old' when Peter came on? What the fuck does one do in this situation other than tell their friends "Doesn't matter what you say, this is how I feel".

Everyone I know who's disagreeing with me is also refusing to say it's possibly just gender politics and pandering. Everyone.
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>>85049409
There was a riot on the left, particularly Tumblr teen girls, who were mad as fuck when Capaldi was cast because he wasn't 'attractive' like Tennant and Smith.
It's a double standard really.
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>>85049087
>Doctor is still white
feminists are pissed
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>>85049568
>Smith
>attractive
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>>85049744
I don't see it either but then again I'm not a Tumblr whale
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the tardis is now a kitchen
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>>85048310
>>85048636
Watch the first two episodes of S10. Was disgusted. Downloaded the rest as weeks went by, telling myself I'd watch it.

It's still on my harddrive, and I still haven't seen past episode 2.

It's going in to the Recycle Bin. S09 was the end for me.
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Members of the Doctor Who Club of Australia largely welcomed the switch to a woman Doctor.
“Welcome to the Tardis, Doctor. I hope you enjoy your stay, which I also hope is a long one,” Stephen Coppins wrote on the club’s Facebook page.
However fellow member Judith McGuinness criticised the decision.
“In casting a ‘classy Anglo Blonde female’ the BBC is not moving forward quickly enough, maybe too reluctant to compromise the inclusive diversity that has been their agenda,” she wrote on Facebook.
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They just killed the franchise.

Most tumblrinas started watching Who because of Tennant, even with Smith and Capaldi they wanted the Doctor to choke them and fuck them hard..

Now that Doctor is a woman, they lost the Nerd fanbase, most of the tumblr fanbase and the normie fanbase..

Just to appease a minority of feminists.
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>>85050296
>here, we've listened and given you a woman just like you wanted!
>NOT. FUCKING. GOOD ENOUGH

A leftist can never, ever be happy. When they run out of targets, they go after their own.
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>>85047025
A lot of tumblr got into doctor who during the Matt Smith run
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>>85035031
Fpbp
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>>85034969
>13 total doctors
>Marries River song
>Dies with River
>Is a female in finale state
They are just fucking rewriting everything by doing this, like literally everything, how the fuck is the doctor supposed to be regenerated as a female? There were female timelords too and they regenerated as females. That's how it fucking works, they just don't give a shit anymore.

It would literally make MORE sense to introduce another timelord who is a female
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>>85050463
>Most tumblrinas started watching Who because of Tennant, even with Smith and Capaldi they wanted the Doctor to choke them and fuck them hard..
>Even with capaldi
lol you don't have a fuckin clue what you're on about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45d8kn5hApg
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>>85049087
It's the female tumblr fans that are pissed about girl Doctor. They just lost their favorite fap show.
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Writing went to shit when Matt signed on and Moffat started writing, you have only yourself to blame for encouraging them
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Moffat is stepping down as the show's head writer. Moffat is bad at writing female characters, he writes them as mary sue's, femme fatales and fan girls, you see this in Sherlock as well as Doctor Who.

You get mary sue characters with agenda-driven re-castings when the writers are afraid to give their female/black version of whatever flaws and don't treat it as incidental.

Best case scenario here is another interesting version of the character who's gender is relevant in specific contexts (episodes set in the past, on earth 'i'm not taking orders from a woman' etc) and a male companion who is assertive and isn't just eyecandy for the female audience in the same way as most of the female companions have been eyecandy.

Worst case scenario is that the 13th doctor's main character trait will be her gender and will have a dopey male companion with toned abs.

Until then, we don't know. It might be the best series they've done (imo it has been very slowly recovering from Russell T Davies reviving the show as a campy retro comedy drama in 2005, they've had to adapt to it being a permanent thing again, it could've been an edgier, more adult remake of an old show from the very beginning but the opportunity was wasted). but it could be hypocritical sjw bullshit. If you don't want to feel like an idiot in the event that it turns out to be good, or to paint your self in to a corner where you're going to have to continue insisting it is shit or refusing to watch any more in order to save face, then reserve your judgement for when it actually comes out.
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>>85053441
Youre kidding right?

Look up the fanfiction, they call him daddy
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>>85055273
The damage is already done. Doctor Who got too popular and became watered down shit. Fuck they retconned the Time War for christ sake. Im just going to rewatch the Tennant years.
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To me, I knew I'd laugh no matter who was the doctor.

People were expecting a female doctor, so people would just rage out if it was a man

If it was a woman, they'd rage out either way.

i REALLY expected a nonwhite doctor before we'd see a woman. But, ultimately, missy was just testing the waters of that.
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>>85037279
Doctor should be asexual, this shit has slowly crept in over nuwhos run
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Doctor Who is a fucking garbage low budget show anyways and their idea of a threatening bad guy is an electronic cheesegrater
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>>85037465
>>85047032


You faggots are worse than the people who whine about the representation because you consider yourself aware enough to know better.

A lot of doctors are questionable choices you aren't real fans if you don't give it a chance before you sperg out. Does it really matter what the doctor is as long as it's good?

Moffat isn't even gonna be showrunner for the next season

Also doctor who is not close to dying, not even it's the most popular show still on the network

"“Attack the Block” and “Broadchurch” star Whittaker will be seen on BBC One in the U.K. and on BBC America in the U.S., as well as globally, with the long-running sci-fi series still one of BBC Worldwide’s biggest-selling shows internationally."

suck it prick
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>>85039169
Nop' still one of the most popular shows on the network.
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>>85034969
All the yaoi fanfics are btfo now.

At least we didnt get a negress Dr
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>>85034969
All I want if for the new qt blonde Doctor and the Gomez Master to have hot BDSM crazy lesbian sex

Is that too much to ask it's all I've ever wanted

Muh porn and muh fanfics are coming true
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>>85057448
You fags said the same shit last doctor & look how that turned out. Your argument is thusly invalidated
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>>85053755
Female tumblr is objectively wrong if they think the show is about a "hot guy Doctor." Only other doctor who was hot in any standard sense was the fifth one.

All the fucking romance that crept into NuWho is retarded too. Old Doctor never had that shit.
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>>85057788
People complained about Matt Smith, and though it started slow, the last season was great. Matt Smith brought a lot of depth to the doctor. I didn't watch much of Capaldi's run, but that was more about Moffat running out of ideas than about Capaldi who I've heard nothing but good things about.

And even then you're wrong, the "tumblr" audience hated it, but it was praised here
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good one step closer to the bbc dying
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>>85058099
Matt Smith was complete quirky shite start to finish.
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>>85052984
This'll be the second life of xer second regeneration cycle. 11 was the final state of the first regeneration cycle, since War and Meta-Crisis count toward the total.
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>>85034969
will they make out?
I would totally watch that
at least we'll get plenty of r34
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>>85047825
No she wasn't. She was the most obnoxious kind of "wacky/zany" and completely nonthreatening, and none of her schemes ever made any sense. I think the actress is actually fairly decent, but as with Capaldi she was poorly directed and had incredibly shitty writing to work with.
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>>85059444
>complaining about quirky shite
>watching Doctor Who
Okay? Smith was great, actually my favourite of the new doctors (although I've not seen enough of Capaldi to make a judgement). His only sin was getting stuck in shit episode after shit episode.
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>>85060137
You're saying that like there wasn't a noticeable increase in quirk from both Moffat and Smith compared to the rest of the new doctor who.
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>>85060235
Different guy, but the quirk actually added a lot to the character rather than subtract from it. Matt Smith's tenure overall was one of the heaviest/darkest with him coming to grips with everything that he did, the people he killed, he was the man that forgot and lived a very long time trying to get rid of the weight that he carried.
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>>85034969
>still not a ginger
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>>85060235
This is admittedly true. There were plenty of episodes that frustrated me with how he was written/directed. But his best scenes were really fucking strong.
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>>85060644
>but the quirk actually added a lot to the character rather than subtract from it.

Made for unbearably shit watching though.
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This is what happens when you give a show to someone who generally doesn't care for it's history and would instead prefer to make their own "muh deep" stories. Moffat ruined it for me and I stopped watching after the god awful end of the 11th and start of the 12th. The show is about wacky space adventures not fucking psychology, and that's why the revival and original series were successful.
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>>85059915
>will they make out?
>I would totally watch that

Yes BBC make it happen

>readies /u/ fap folder

Purest love
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>>85060872
Some of his early stuff was pretty bad, I didn't like anything with River Song or Amy/Rory, even though their leaving was handled really well.
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>>85060880
Even the Tennant years were pretty bad overall. The only reason I stuck with the show through Tennant's run was because every so often it would have a great old fashioned scifi episode like e.g. Midnight.
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>>85061270
Yea I suppose so, the whole rose romance was retarded but Donna was generally fun
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