Can we all agree this was shit? >False advertising, "war"

>>85034797
you realize war isnt all just constant shooting and explosions and battles. theres a lot of shit that goes on in between.

>>85034797
/pol/ pretty much destroyed your brain, its time to go back

>>85034875
Yes, but this was a prison break movie, not a war movie.

>>85034797
We can all agree that you're a fucking brainlet

>>85034913
Not sure how this is even tangentially related to /pol/.

>>85034913
>>85034967
>No actual responses, just whining that I don't share this board's shit taste
As usual

>>85034915
POWs and escaping is still part of war. it was a labor camp too. and the war was not only apes v humans but humans v humans as well.

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>>85034797
>mfw conservatives hated this movie.

>>85035103
I think you know you're being obtuse. Just because that's technically a part of war doesn't make it a "war movie" in any sense.

>>85034797
My biggest gripe was the Colonel putting literal monkey jesus in with the other apes.

It just didnt make sense. Any normal person would have had him either shot dead or separated in isolation.

Completely unbelievable.

>>85035253
This. Caesar never should've set foot in front of the others.

>>85035181
what is your definition of a war movie then?

Stopped reading after your first point

>>85035029

>starts OP with "can we all agree blah blah blah'

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>>85034797
>Colonel enslaves the apes instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless
>Nazis enslave the Jews instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless

Almonds

>>85034797
How was Koba retconned?
The idea of Caesar becoming like him is never portrayed as a good thing. The conclusion of his arc is him deciding not to act like Koba.

I really liked the second one, but gauging your reactions this one isn't as good?

>>85035909
So is there any flashback's to the first one?

I agree with some of your points, especially the convenient avalanche. However, there was still some good characterization and I found myself invested throughout.

It doesn't reach kino levels the way Dawn did but its still solid cinema.

>>85035909
Yeah, but apes are strong. Jewish intelligence and ruthlessness is meaningless unless they can get goyim to serve as their muscle, and they can't while imprisoned.

>>85037427
Nah he's right there's little to no action in this or it all happens off screen. Dawn was surprising and this was disapointing.

Don't watch unless you want to be amazed at the quality of the CGI for 2 hours.

>>85035145
And yeah whipping the apes to the US national anthem and having the colonel be a Christian was a little too conservative-bashing.

>>85038775
>the convenient avalanche
See if you can get the Mythbusters to check that one for you.

Was that lake at the end the same lake Charlton Heston crashes into?

fuck off brainlet, this shit was kino

>>85034797
literally all the points you made are objectively wrong and explained in the movie. gr8 b8 m8

>>85034797
>Colonel enslaves the apes instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless
This is something that really bothered me. They kill everyone that goes retarded while having fucking virus-mutated apes fight alongside them.

>>85039929
>Colonel is the designated villain despite doing absolutely nothing wrong
He's right with that one.

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>>85034797
>>Humans fight each other for some retarded reason

>>85040032
Killing his own son and the men under his command is pretty harsh, specially when it isn't even known if they're carriers of any virus. It's much more likely the thing is in the air and every immune person will become retarded on their own like it happens at the end of the movie.

>>85040032
He wants to kill the apes, who we like having spent two films alongside them.

He also enslaves them to build a wooden fence to defend against apaches, instead of just mercy killing them.

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>>85040032
>kill fellow humans
>enslave apes
>>did nothing wrong

Were all the Northern Forces already mute?

They were a very odd addition and I wasn't sure what their situation was.

>>85040246
Would you rather have an intelligent bunch of virus-carrying slaves, or 'tard, virus-carrying slaves?

>>85040251
Isn't muteness just a symptomp tho? I thought it was the most visible effect of having your brain turned into mush by the virus.

>>85040490
They weren't exactly smart with running straight in like a bunch of Zerg, to kill this guy for... a reason?

But you're right, I imagine flying an Apache takes a lot of healthy minds.

So did they ever explain how the virus works?

I remember reading about how War would go into the effects & show it "evolving" into a deadlier strain?

>>85040173
It was implied that the mute girl's toy gave him the virus

That final battle just made me want to play Just Cause 3 again.

>>85040646
How it works was explained in the first film. It's gene therapy.

War shows it making humans braindead

>>85040646
It's a virus orignally made to stop and reverse Alzheimer's that was piggybacked on another one that resembled ebola, due to ebola's ability to fool the immune system over and over. Originally it was the ebola-like part that killed almost all humans, and once those who were suceptible to it were all gone, evolution took its course and the Alzheimer's part became dominant, so the composite virus mutated and you ended up with a new strain that can affect everyone left thact acts like reverse Alzheimer's, making you slowly retarded until you become like the humans in the original movie. I'm guessing most of those affected just die when they forget how to breathe, though. A minority must recover but be doomed to pass the brain damage to their children.

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Bad Ape is the key to all of this, because he's a funnier character than we've had before.

>>85040963
Was that his actual name?

I was excited to see a non Caesar Ape, but the comic relief was a little bit much.

>>85034797
t. brainlet who watched the trailers instead of judging the movie by its own merits

>>85034915
>The Great Escape is not a war movie
>Bridge Over the River Kwai is not a war movie

>>85037427
The only thing OP's reaction will show you is that he's a retard. If you liked the first two you'll like this one

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>Patrice didn't live to witness monkino
it's not right, lads

Why was the outpost so similar looking to Auschwitz? even being in the snow with the train track heading into the main gates?

It was Kino you fucking pleb

>those shots
>that color palette
>that motion capture showing emotion better than humans
>that God tier cgi

>>85041566
Same reason there was a border wall. Every villain must be a fucking nazi nowadays.

>>85041566
They didn't have a train track though

it's really worse than dawn?
This movie was literally the only movie I have been genuinely looking forwards too.

>>85037427
its a good movie, retards are just mad it wasnt 2 hours of apes and humans fighting each other

>>85041659
if you are expecting non-stop violence for two hours yeah it sucks

but if you want a solid ending to the trilogy and have an interest in seeing what becomes of ceaser, it is good.

>>85041597
It's really one of the best looking blockbusters of the past decade. Huge improvement over Dawn.

>>85034797
>Can we all agree
No

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>>85035145
>>85039164
>>85040032
>>85041615
triggered

>>85041724
>but if you want a solid ending to the trilogy
that puts me at ease, thanks anon. The first two movies totally hit me by surprise and I became a huge fan (I would even go as far as calling them some of my favorite movies of all time).

Pro tip for you brainlets out there, Caesar is Moses.

>>85042181
Rest assured the third is easily the best of the trilogy.

>>85034797
>movie about intelligent apes
You have to be a special kind of retard to think these stuff is enjoyable in the first place. Probably the same kind of people who think The Dark Knight Rises is a master-piece.

>>85034797
ix

>>85042388
>the original 1968 movie about intelligent apes isn't one of the greatest movies of all time with hands down the greatest ending in cinematic history.

Stop, your pleb is showing.

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>argued with black guy who identified the apes as the good guys today
Idek how to parse that information, hours later

>>85042572
Woody's character had a good reason for his actions but he was legitimately insane. Walls, really?

>>85042388
>he doesn't know these are based on classics from the 80's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eau3RoxGN8E

>>85042688
>posts a trailer from 1972
>80's

>>85034797
>Cloying sentimentality throughout the film is an extremely desperate attempt to make you root against your own species
Wait, there are people who didn't root for the apes? What the hell is wrong with you?

>check kodi
>everyone only has trailers up
Fug this

>>85043038
Only edge lords dont root for the apes.

>>85043099
I wouldn't watch a cam rip of this. Either see it in theaters or wait for the bluray rip

Based Adam comes to the rescue.

https://youtu.be/GclmFIjvDlU

The fuel tank scene kind of ruined the ending for me, it didn't make any sense. Also why did they kill Caesar off?
Overall I liked it better than Dawn, but Rise is still the best one.

Confirmed for shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GclmFIjvDlU

>>85043653
>Why didn't the girl speak/have emotions for her father?
>Why did they execute both guys!

Literally connect the dots Adam. Holy fuck losing Merk must have fucked your head. It is clearly b/c of the new Simian Virus

>>85043647
Its the last film of the trilogy, it makes sense to kill Caesar

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>>85034797
It's Amiah's 13th birthday. Say something nice about her character

>>85034913
as a full fledged 1488er I have to agree

you have to be retarded to think Harrelson's character wasn't redeemed in his monologue and was made sympathetic.

>>85043731
The best part is he acknowledges it later and then pretends like that didn't explain it.

He just didn't want to like it, plain and simple. The apes weren't fuckable enough I'd assume

>>85043731
He's comparing her lack of emotion for father with her emotion for the ape which she had 1 scene with.

>>85037427
If you just want two hours of apes and explosions this movie isn't for you. If you are actually invested in Caesar's character and want to see a fitting conclusion to his story then the movie is great.

>>85043867
whoa, it's as if, she has regressed into a primative simbian state.

hmm...... its like she identifies with Apes, more than humans

Nah that cant be it...........

>>85034797
>>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans
What the fuck does that even mean? Explain, as I haven't seen the movie.

>>85043982
An avalanche kills a human army rather than apes

>>85034797
Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans

I have no interest in paying to see this movie, but this part sounds interesting. Wanna expand?

>>85043982
>>85044029

Apparently large explosions on a snowy mountainside after a fresh snowfall WOULD NOT cause an avalanche.

Also known as grasping at straws to defame the film and get people not to see it since Spiderman Homecoming is doing poorly

>>85040173
Do we even know if the mutated virus makes them savages like he claims? The little girl still seemed to retain intelligence and emotions seeing as how she starts learning monkey sign language in a few days from an orangutan that can't speak

>>85043980
You would have thought that in one of the 57 exposition scenes they would have been able to explain that it makes you love monkeys.

>>85034797
>>False advertising, "war" is about 15 minutes of screentime
The film is based during a war.
>>Caesar acts like he's the victim when humans fight him to preserve their existence
Caesar never wanted the war but since Dawn has recognised that apes played their part in creating the conflict
>>Cloying sentimentality throughout the film is an extremely desperate attempt to make you root against your own species
Or an attempt to show both sides as being capable of love and a desire to protect their own
>>Colonel is the designated villain despite doing absolutely nothing wrong
Film clearly illustrated the reason for Colonel's actions and lends legitimacy to his actions
>>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans
There is no plan or attempt by the apes for a human genocide. Caesar's grudge is against the one individual and not all humanity. Nova and his repeated showings of mercy clearly illustrate this.
>>Caesar is ultimately no better than Koba but the movie retcons Koba into some kind of antihero instead of actually questioning Caesar's personal morality
There is Maurice literally questioning Caesar's personal morality pretty much throughout the film. Koba's stance is completely the same as Dawn.
>>Humans fight each other for some retarded reason even though their forces combined easily could've wiped out the ape menace
Colonel goes mad and orders his men to kill innocent people and the other force is appalled by this. It's not actually a retarded reason.
>>Colonel enslaves the apes instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless
Colonel needs ape workers to fortify his defence position.

>>85043647
Caesar's story mirrors Moses's

>Colonel is the designated villain despite doing absolutely nothing wrong

He killed his own child because he lost the ability to speak. And if that little girl was anything to show for, the mutated virus doesn't seem to actually affect intelligence all that much.

The last shred of humanity is never gonna overcome another virus, why kill what little people you have left just because they stopped talking?

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>it's a marvlel drone is triggered by an amazing film episode

>>85044099
>Apparently large explosions on a snowy mountainside after a fresh snowfall WOULD NOT cause an avalanche.
That is correct. Also it does sound like an asspull conclusion because the script writers couldn't write themselves out of the situation.
Might as well have written the spaghetti monster in. Would have had the same retarded effect.
You are literally defending shit writing and suck the flick's cock with emotional involvement.

>>85037427
It's a lot better than the second one, Dawn was just a mess of ape and humans fighting, I can barely remember a single scene from it

>>85044042
At the very end once the colonel is dead and the base is destroyed, a remaining human army is wiped out by an avalanche as a result of explosions.

>>85034797
I just wanted to say that OP hit the nail on the head and the rest of you are in denial or have shit taste.

Still a decent film overall though.

>>85044474
he got btfo though
>>85044205

literally everything OP said is flat out wrong

>>85043867
Was it definitely her father? Might have been a loli situation?

>>85044531
Most likely. He was a soldier in the colonels army and the colonel states they had a ton of people desert when they started executing their comrades/families

>The raining scene where the CGI apes get all wet but the actors didn't get wet at all

>>85044529
they're good arguments but ultimately it defends the film that we got against a better film that it could have been otherwise

>>85034797
i like how this post suddenly appeared right after YourMovieSucks' review of it.

think for yourself you fucking moron.

>>85034797
>>False advertising, "war" is about 15 minutes of screentime
They're making a Planet of the Apes cinematic universe and were using the work of Zach Snyder as a reference

God forbid a blockbuster be remotely emotional and thought-provoking instead of beginning to end action broken up by quips

>>85034797
These weren't even the main problems with the movie.

Let's assume that the apes are the party actually deserving of more sympathy. The movie is rife with a shitload of problems.

Why is the colonel attacking the ape camp, presumably before they even have a fortified position to fall back on? In fact, why is he attacking the apes at all if they're already free from them? The population is so low that the USA is basically a wilderness. The simian flu is already in the human population. It doesn't make sense, and this whole conflict was set up so that the movie could have a dumb cartoon villain.

Why do the troops only want Caesar? This is never explained. Without this plot point, Caesar and the three other apes would have never left the tribe as a diversion. And they didn't divert anything anyways, since the tribe got captured.

Dumb plot convenience #1: Finding an ape that knows precisely where the colonel's camp is. Not completely retarded but not good writing either.

The one salient point of your post was that there is ZERO reason for the apes to be enslaved into building a fortress wall. Who is it protecting from, the apes? It can't be the apes, since they enslaved them. If it's the humans, it's laughable because the subsequent assault with modern helicopters and mortar fire BTFO'd the base anyways. Either way, building the wall is retarded, and I have an inkling of suspicion that it was shoehorned in because DRUMPF. And you also have a hostile and intelligent population inside your walls that you actively antagonize and are extreme risks of sabotage if other human forces begin attacking, and that's pretty much what happened with Caesar and the grenade.

(contd.)

>>85044747
>3 hours 30 minutes ago
>review uploaded 56 minutes ago

>>85044818
(contd.)

Dumb plot convenience #2: Comedy relief ape stumbling into a sewage tunnel that leads directly into the camp.

And the poop-throwing scene... holy shit. That might honestly be in the top 10 worst scenes from movies that took themselves seriously. What the fuck? Wasn't there a massive risk that the guard wouldn't have an IQ of 63 and would just inform higher ups, clean himself up, and then wait for brutal corporal punishment to be handed down? Instead he locks himself in the cage and stands in the precisely correct spot for them to pull him down.

Dumb plot convenience #3: The thinness of the floor above the tunnels. What if they had been concrete?

The colonel's monologues are boring tripe and are subtle propoganda associating freedom of association with brutalizing other populations. There's a bunch of other ham-fisted Hollywood "ideology" in there too, like the US national anthem playing during the rounding up of slave laborers, the Murican flag during the rally, and them building a wall because DRUMPF. Even if you're not conservative, you have to admit that it's just ham-fisted and tired as hell to have these tropes in movies. And I'm not dogmatically pro-USA by any stretch of the imagination.

Dumb plot convenience #4: gasoline tanks right next to the machine gun nests for Michael Bay explosion

Dumb plot convenience #5: the humans attacking with artillery and helicopters in addition to a shitload of infantrymen just in time, also nullifying any reason to build a shitty wall fortificatoin.

Dumb plot convenience #6: The avalanche.

Other stuff: the movie was slow as fuck and was ridiculously corny and sappy in multiple places (flower in the hair, stupid Maurice staring at stuff); the villains were, once again, unbelievable cartoon evils, there were multiple dumb plot conveniences, the plot fucking sucked, this movie fucking sucked.

3/10.

>>85044808
There is LITERALLY nothing thought provoking.

HUR HUR HUMANS BE MEANIES TO APES KILL HUMANS

>Emotional
Literally one forced as fuck scene

>Quips
Bad Ape had more quips and Marvel Tier humor than most Capeshit does

It was 3.5/10 and I am being HELLA generous. I'd rather go see 2.5hrs of trailers.

>>85044858
>>85044818
Did you type all of YMS's points out on a second screen or just listen to it.

Genuinely curious since it copies his video beat for beat.

>>85044943
I just saw the movie with my family, not even lying. Link to vid? It must be good.

>>85045024
Read the thread

wud u fug ape?

>>85044883
>Bad Ape had more quips and Marvel Tier humor than most Capeshit does
You didn't see the movie.

>Luca gives flower to Nova
>dies 2 minutes later
>"poetic" scene of her giving the flower back

Shit like that ruined this movie.

>>85044943
Found it. But he points out things I missed already, like the plot convenience of the colonel being seen by Caesar leaving the forest fort.

>>85045283
Yeah and he's pointing out a shitload of stuff that requires scene-for-scene perfect memory. My criticism isn't even close to as detailed.

>>85045283
How is that "convenience"?

>>85044858
>>85044818

t. liked spiderman homecoming

>>85042657

>but he was legitimately insane. Walls, really?

Huh, sounds like someone...

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>>85044883
>HELLA

>>85044883
These are marvel pajeets who can't concentrate on the movie if it doesnt have action from beginning to end

>>85044135
are you retarded? she was completely unresponsive when her father was literally gunned down ten feet away from her.

>>85045929
she didn't see it happen

>>85045929
She didn't see it happen

>>85045973
>>85046001
this is military grade autism, christ.

>>85042539

I bet you think Star Wars is a masterpiece too, fucking plebs sometimes

>>85046056
Don't exaggerate for the sake of your argument, fag

>>85034797
>>Caesar acts like he's the victim when humans fight him to preserve their existence

But Caesar is still the victim even though this is true. He never started the war, he never released the virus. The colonel was right that Apes would overtake humans but Caesar never instigated the aggression

>>85034797

Like half your points are plot points in the film. Caesar is fully aware that he is no better than Koba. I think the black and white morality of Capeshit has rotted your brain

>>85043038
>rooting against literally your own kind up against extinction
fucking kill yourself

>>85034797

Movie was shit. It was such a step down in quality from the other movies from a dramatic perspective. It was a boilerplate story filled to the brim with tired cliches that were there just because something had to be there. The plot and characters were just an excuse for the cgi and set pieces. Still much better than Spiderman: Homecoming.

>>85046319
You know it's a movie, right?

>>85046346
Are you referring to Spidiversity: Bull Cumming?

Ah, another universally acclaimed movie that /tv/ doesn't like. Do any of you ever get tired of being vapid contrarians?

>>85046346
must be exhausting being a block head

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>>85034797
I'm considering going to see this movie or Spider man tonight. I only need to know one thing, Is Caesar still an interesting character?

>>85047403
He's the only interesting character.

>>85047403
Spider-Man is the worst MCU movie to date. Watch apes.

>>85034797
>there are people that actually believe that a war consists of non stop shooting for years

When I heard this complains that there wasn't a war in the movie, I was so confused since the last movie made it clear that the war between the apes and humans had started. I then watched the movie and realized that people are stupid as fuck if they think this wasn't a war.

>>85047403
Yes.

>>85047462
wrong

>>85047403
He's the best part of the movie. I personally think that this is the best of the trilogy.

>>85034797
Asking the real question though. Can a full grown chimpanzee hold his own against a gorilla?

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>83/100 on Metacritic
>95% with an 8.2/10 average (8.4/10 from top critics)
>Marveldrones shilling because Spiderflop is flopping

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>>85047822
Didn't Spider man already make it's money back domestically though?

>>85048203
n-no!

Please explain to me why Harrelson got sick by touching the doll but the kid's dad was fine

>>85035253
Why didn't he just kill him as soon as they captured Caesar? He tried to kill him in the cave, why not now?

>>85048242
he wasnt sick he was just pissed

>>85048370
>>85048242
oh you mean the dad not the kid. yeah good plot hole

>>85048242
>>85048458
the dad might have been keeping her isolated. or maybe she had just recently gotten ill since she tried and struggled to speak when maurice was with her

>>85044818
I have not seen the movies bar the first one, but I am curious

>The population is so low that the USA is basically a wilderness
As of right now there are 7,5 Billion people, even if the virus somehow got to 99% of the population there would still be 75 million people, which is millions more than necessary for the human race to go on.

Did they just go for "nearly everyone is dead because by my writing's power I say that virus cannot be stopped and this one is a special snowflake with a super mortality"?

>>85049307
in the second movie they state there was war after the virus spread which killed even more people. we dont know the state of the rest of the country either this only takes place on the west coast.

>>85048458
Kind of a reach, but the dad could have been resistant to the new strain. Also the colonel had had contact with another person who had the new strain too (his son). Finally while it seems to be spread by contact based on the events of the movie, I'd think it was airborne considering they shot those three soldiers because they caught it even after there was no way they would have had contact with some one who had the new strain (unless it was just lying dormant and took awhile to activate in them which could also explain the dad). Kind of a stretch though

>>85049234

She was recently sick, notice the dried blood under her nose. Didn't even have time to clean it off. She probably got sick the day before. It took a few days for the colonel to get infected since he took the doll the day they put Caesar back to work.

>>85049726
yea thats what i was thinking. so the dad most likely would have been infected in a couple of days had he not died.

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I liked it. It was a live action Ape Escape movie.

>>85035253

This is about my only gripe with the movie, too. I just kept thinking "why would they put him in with the rest of the apes, knowing he's really smart and might try to make some kind of revolution or escape?" It just doesnt make sense, logically speaking.

Was the donkey that got caught in the begginning the same one that saved Caesar at the end?

>>85040963

Bad Ape was really funny, good character.

>>85050039
yes

>>85049988
>>85049988
Besides the first night he was isolated, granted since their language is mostly non verbal he should have been kept out of sight too. Plus at first the other apes had felt betrayed by him. It wasn't until he yelled at the donkey to stop whipping the near death worker and was whipped and almost killed instead that they began trusting him again. By that point they basically started crucifying him as an example to the other apes to shut up and do their work.

>>85050279

Okay, I'll give you that point, maybe they didnt know they actually communicated through body language. But wouldnt it make more sense to just kill Caesar after he tried to stop Donkey from whipping that one ape, and the others got a little rowdy? The colonel should've known he would be trouble and get rid of him ASAP but he didnt. Maybe he simply underestimated Caesar.

>>85050604
The Colonel knew that degrading Caesar like that would just kill morale for the other monkeys thus create an easier environment for himself and the other troops. He knew that Caesar was clearly the leader of them all since they first met at the cave. Besides, he was going to shoot him had Lake not put a stop to it.

>>85034797
>Caesar acts like he's the victim when humans fight him to preserve their existence

From his persoecy\time he keeps trying to make peace with humans and it keeps getting worse for him and his apes as a result. There's no reason why his apes and humans can't form some sort of treaty but humans won't come to the negotiation table with them because they are apes.

>Cloying sentimentality throughout the film is an extremely desperate attempt to make you root against your own species

Nobody was rooting for Nova to die. Yeah the other humans were being dicks but that's sort of realistic since we're talking about their opposition being Apes and humans blaming apes for the simian flu.

>Colonel is the designated villain despite doing absolutely nothing wrong

He was kinda unironically being as monumental of a dick as he could be because he believed that being a hardass and squandering potential was the thing to do in a post apocalyptic world

>>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans

Not all of the humans died. Only their soldiers.

>Caesar is ultimately no better than Koba but the movie retcons Koba into some kind of antihero instead of actually questioning Caesar's personal morality

Welllll, if Caesar followed Koba's advice, then the human armies wouldn't have been a problem in this film. Tho Caesar is better than Koba in the sense that he thinks before acting while Koba just acts on impulse.

>Humans fight each other for some retarded reason even though their forces combined easily could've wiped out the ape menace

What would wiping out the apes resolve exactly? Just stay out of the woods. That's how you resolve any menace that you believe they represent.

>Colonel enslaves the apes instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless

He needed slave labor to build his stupid wall to defend against the other army.

>>85052978
Perspective, not persoecy\time

>>85035253
You either become a example or a martyr. Colonel wanted the former but got the latter

Was the second human army supposed to be infected by the disease? They communicate only by screaming, say nothing in words, and Nova establishes that infected humans can still use reason.

>>85035253
He was something that they could use to force compliance of the other apes. Shooting him dead on the spot might cause them to decide to go down fighting and then the wall doesn't get built and he'd lose some soldiers and materiel.

He was separated from the group after it was shown that he still holds sway with he apes. He was put on display so they can see him broken and made to serve.

>>85053390
They didn't have a reason to say anything that the viewer can hear.

>>85049307
The world practically broke apart once the virus went rampant. Wars, mutiny and chaos are what's ending the world; the virus was just a catalyst.

The film explains that a certain population of people are immune, which would naturally be the case.

>>85034797
>ITT marvel pajeets upset that they got A P E D
JUST!

>>85035145
So did the BLM founder. your point?

>>85034797
>murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans

You don't know what genocide is do you? Fucking retard.

>>85034797
>2k17
>still watching fucking ape planet
Is your mother proud of you?

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>>85034797
You are incapable of objective thought at this point. Most of your points weren't even implied by the movie. A lot of what you're bitching about was supposed to be morally ambiguous. Koba was never shown as a fucking anti-hero, it was obvious Caesar hated his inability to let go of his hate. Comparing himself unfavorably to Koba. I won't even argue your other points, because you're too far gone up your own ass for rational thought.

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>>85042388
perhaps you need to check your cranial temperature, m8

>>85034797
Someone explain to me how monkeys attempt and succeed in taking over the world.

Haven't seen a single film. I don't like movies where I already know the ending.

>>85057668
The monkeys dont attempt to take over the world. They just survive and inherit it.

Most of the humans already died from the virus and the rest of the humans kill each other in this movie.

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>Alpha-Omega warhead is responsible for destroying the world in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
>Alpha-Omega group is responsible for finishing the last of the American Army in the ensuing avalanche due to the fighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrkzIN2eP0U

APE KINO

>>85057668
>Someone explain to me how monkeys attempt and succeed in taking over the world.

Company made medicine that was supposed to cure alzheimer's turns out it actually kills humans while making apes smart at the same time. This thing is contagious so it contains a big portion of the planet and then it's implied that big wars happened because of it, wiping almost all humans on earth, meanwhile apes become smart enough to survive until eventually taking over the whole planet. It then becomes a Planet of the Apes.

>>85044818
maybe they didn't know what type of force to expect. a wall would've been effective against an infantry force. they already had anti aircraft defences.

>>85050604
I agree, once they brought him in and saw he was just going to be trouble they should have knelt him down and executed him. On the other hand, the colonel knew how much that would demoralize the other apes since he saw it first hand when he started executing his own men.

I saw it with my dad and his theory was that the colonel knew humanity as a whole was basically fucked and the colonel was basically having his last hoorah and trying to fuck everyone else up as much as possible. When he commits suicide you can tell how much having to kill his son had messed him up and he had stopped thinking rationally awhile ago

>>85044683
I noticed that too, Woody's dome was way too dry

I made the mistake of seeing this at the Movies I thought it was going to be about Apes fighting humans but instead it was some white liberal guilt trip crap. Boo hoo I'm supposedly to feel sorry for CGI monkey's lol good one. The best was at the end a group of niggers were clapping I guess they could relate to the monkeys a lot more then I could seeing as how their pretty close in species.

>>85059349
/pol/ posters should be banned from other boards desu

I was disappointed after the kino the last one was. Much less nuanced, basically noble savages vs. ebil humans which the last film avoided

>>85059349
lol

>>85049307
Well obviously the human race is too big to fail, nothing could ever destroy it, even nuclear war doesn't kill the remote or possibly even rural based humans.

Its just a movie and that is its story it doesn't have to literally explain how every human could die and be replaced by apes, as long as they get you to 75M.

>>85034797

It's not good but today's "cinephiles" are so desperate to rave about ONE OF THE GREATEST TRILOGIES OF ALL TIME that they're going to meme it until the end of time without even watching it closely and actually thinking about it. Half the people praising it already went in with their minds made up about how much they would rave about it. I really enjoyed the last one but the more I think about this one the more I think it's shit.

Also, fuck Serkis. I've worked with people that were front and center on projects like Gollum, King Kong, and Apes and this motherfucker is a son of a bitch for shafting the animators and hogging all the credit every chance he gets.

I'd call him the Steve Jobs of mocap but that'd be giving him too mcuh credit. At least Jobs was legitimately talented in many ways. Serkis just has a lot of clout amongst rabidly idiotic fans that are too dumb to know better than to ascribe an entire industry's technical accomplishments to one hack fraud.

If this is acting as a true prequel trilogy to the original, I'm very curious about the retained human intelligence after going mute. The humans in the original were essentially primal retards, but it seemed Nova still retained emotion and thought (albeit clouded by adolescent innocence).

>>85034797
MARVEL SHILLS ON FULL FORCE TONIGHT BOYS!

>>85060041
Same poster. nova in war, obviously

>>85034797

I agree. That last part especially makes it seem like it's just a stupid political allegory, the filmmakers don't seem to take the prospect of human annihilation seriously, and give the impression that in the event, they would be the first to open the gates.

>>85060041
>>85060107
How far into the future is the original from war? Selective breeding and constant pressure could force humans into a more primal survival state given enough time

People don't understand how influential the first movie was in terms of raising awareness of the negative effects of lobotomy. Also everyone from the 1950s would think we are crazy if they were shown this film.

>>85043751
Post more pics of her please, she was cute

>>85059349
/pol/ has fried your brain

>>85059349

This is EXACTLY how a Trump supporter writes. They always have the same writing pattern, it's amazing.

>>85060002
.>Hogging all the credit

Are you fucking kidding me? Serkis always gets shafted when it comes to these movies in terms of recognition

>>85060041
>but it seemed Nova still retained emotion and thought (albeit clouded by adolescent innocence).

She's in between the regression devolution.. just like apes in this trilogy were still not as intelligent as the original Ape movies ones, the humans are still smarter than those. Nova was starting the devolution but she wasn't there yet. If she had kids they most likely be dumb as rocks.

>>85034797
The Planet of the Apes movies have always been social commentaries. If you did not know this, then I suggest you take a good look at some of the original films. Apes aren't EXTREMELY intelligent. They're just smart like humans, but much like humans they do stupid things. Enslavement to build a wall to fight off attackers whom he didn't know what kind of firepower they had. It is unbelievable to think humans would fight over stupid shit? I suggest you delve into human history. The movie doesn't retcon Koba as antihero. It just reminds you that he is the dickhead who caused this. If that were true, Caesar would have popped Woody Harrelson in the face, no hesitation. I disagree with every dumb thing you said except for the stupid Avalanche at the end wiping out everyone and somewhat false advertising. Other than that, you're wrong about everything else.

>>85040963
He was funny sometimes, but not all the time. I just like the character in general. He is the one Ape there that looks almost exactly like a Chimp.

Anyone agree with me that despite flaws here and there that this is a solid trilogy of films that has rarely been done?

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>>85040963
He literally was the key to all of this. He was the only Ape left who could speak well, and he brought vests back into style

>>85061079
My only problem with him is that he a great backstory, but was quickly turned into a comedic side kick. I would have liked for them to explore his hesitancy for action my exploring his past instead of him just being an idiot for comedic purposes

>>85061099
>LoTR
>TDK
>Apes
>Raimi's Spider-Man

This is the order of best trilogies

>>85061099
I totally agree. I mean still liked Dawn more but a Solid trilogy is so fucking rare. A Solid reboot is so fucking Rare. These movies shouldn't have fucking worked but they did.

THE COLONEL WAS RIGHT.

How did you feel about that?

>>85061099
I agree

>>85061295
I had my doubts about Franco in the first one but he did a great job and managed to get me sold on the trilogy

Why did caesar have to die bros i wasn't ready ):

>>85061461
at least Maurice made it

>>85061531
i legit feel depressed after that, i knew it had to happen but...... what will i do without my ape kino now, i am to understand this was the final film, and i get it they made 3 perfect films which is hard to do.

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>>85061531
>tfw feeling happy that rocket made it
He really did shine in this movie.

Something I loved about this movie is how there's so little dialogue in many of the scenes. It's just the visuals and the soundtrack carrying the movie. I wish more movies were like that.

>>85061461
He had realized he was slowly turning in to koba and decided to just end it all by avenging his family instead of leading his tribe down the wrong path

Bore for the Planet of the Apes

>>85061658
I was talking about this with a coworker earlier. It made the movie a lot better.

>>85061461
his death came off almost like a shakespearian play

instead of dying looking up as all the apes gather around, he died with his oldest friend and slumped over

Ceaser was such a good character FUCK

>>85061775
It was a bible reference you uneducated pleb. Specifically Moses dying after delivering the Jews to the promised land

>>85061461
>>85061622
>>85061775
Will there ever be another Ceasar?

>>85061254
They'll probably explore that in the next movie.

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>>85061653
>using himself as a distraction and getting a few good punches in on donkey nigger as well
Fucking based.

>>85061653
My nigga. I feel like rocket doesn't get enough love. He seems like the perfect bro
>loyal
>willing to risk his life for a friend
>intelligent
>will back you up when shit hits the fan

>>85061824
This. The soundtrack has many bible reference title names as well.

>>85061653

>TFW Rocket probably became the leader again after Caesar died

It was his plan all along.

>>85061825
Yes. Cornelius. Probably wont be legendary like Caesar was.

>>85061824
to be fair, andy himself said it was Shakespearean-ish death

How many movies can they do so RIGHT in a row?

>>85061766

Reminded me of Samurai Jack, which did the same thing. It just let the visuals and the awesome soundtrack carry everything with very little dialogue for long periods of time. It lets the music speak louder, imo.

>>85059405
>>85060487
>>85059499
>>85060523
Libcuck faggots with fetishes for nigger ape rape

>>85060583

How retarded can you be? Is this bait? Unless you mean he should be getting oscars, in which case I'll repeat my point and say that Serkis is a fucking hack who takes credit for what is by and large an achievement of the animators and the animators alone. The fucker's mocap for Fellowship wasn't even useful. Their entire workflow had to be scratched and they had to bring in animation veterans to work with the production crew to salvage that film. So much of that performance is 100% keyframing, it pisses me off that he's become the biggest name when cutting-edge CG in films is discussed.

The average internet user believes that Andy Serkis is some kind of "godfather" for mocap and performance capture technology, and that's a fucking travesty.

>>85061871
I back this, Maurice clearly is better as an advisor/ consigliere figure. Those two carry on the legacy of Caesar and then pass it all over to Cornelius.

>>85062026
i voted trump but you're still a fag

>>85062098
what would have happened to nova? would the apes keep her?

>>85062132
This. Unironic 14/88 /pol/acks hurt this site's other boards

>>85062070
>Serkis is a hack
Stopped reading right there. Get the fuck out

>>85062178
I think so. Maurice seems to be fond of her. Probably reminds him of the kid from Dawn.

>>85034797
well everything was a cliche and every character did things that defied suspension of disbelief.

>>85062132
>>85062220
Lmao sucks for you kikes. It's only going to get worse.

>apocalypse now with monkeys and cliches

zzzzz... it was like a 5/10 at best. take a good look at the writers for this movie because you can blacklist them in the future. waste of good directing and acting.

>>85062070
I think he fact that he is always talked about and praised is a way to gain some credit. Everyone just focuses in on the amazing effects and so all he is trying to prove is that in addition to the animators these are real actors, doing real work that should be acknowledged and appreciated. The more he is advertised the more actors and filmmakers will consider mo-cap and thus would give the animators better performances and references to use, as well as more movies to keep improving the technology and how it is used.

>>85062178
>>85062284
With Caesar gone and Maurice ageing, will there be a distaste for humans after? It seems they were the only ones with any compassion for them. The other apes only followed suit because leader and advisor kept them around??

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>>85062178

>>85062463
who knows, but right at the end you can see nova and cornelius playing with another ape

perhaps cornelius befriends her

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>>85062453
It's only Apocalypse Now for like the first ten minutes tho. Then it turns into Bridge on the River Kwai, with a dash of Ten Commandments at the end.

>>85062640
didn't mean to spoil that

>>85062463
I think it comes down to Cornelius and when or if he starts to take charge. All he will know of humans is that they killed his mom and brother, enslaved all the apes, including himself of course, had to watch through the fence to see his father essentially crucified. It relies heavily on his relationship with Nova. It will likely be a case of him growing up and gaining more intelligence while she either regresses or plateaus. So at that point he may be fond of her still, but possibly in the form of a pet, which starts to connect with the original.

>>85062640
I mean, river kwai is a good fucking movie.

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>>85062026
>>85062375
????

>>85061825
I doubt it, nobody will recreat andy serkis's performance for a long time, if ever..

>>85062640
well i didnt mind copying those movies, it was just too poorly written and caesar dying literally made me roll my eyes (so bizarrely done and random for shock value)

>>85062463
Rocket and lake were members of the next generation and they seem to follow caesars teachings. Plus as >>85062524 pointed out, there is a bridging moment.

What the trilogies don't show is what's going on else where. Bad ape showed that apes everywhere where becoming intelligent, so it's entirely possible a kobalike figure takes control elsewhere and ends up ruling the world

>>85034913
>Le /pol/ boogeyman
People like you are turning this board to shit

>>85042052
who are you kidding, you've never held a job in your life

>>85035145
I am conservative and loved this movie

>>85062728
It's not a Jewish baby unless the mother is Jewish.

>>85062098

Yes, the orangutans in the old movies were always the wise advisers. That would be Maurice's job here.

>>85035909
Yeah, I thought that too at first, but I quickly forgot about it. Now if they began to use gas chambers or something similar, there would have been a problem

>>85062477

Kek. Now I'm wondering if that was intentional.

>>85063024

absolutely rekt

>>85062252

Kys. Unless you're literally one of the people who worked on Caesar, Gollum, and Kong your opinion is fucking worthless compared to the numerous accounts of renowned industry veterans who have time and again called Serkis out on his bullshit. Too bad idiots like you exist to ensure that those guys will never get the attention they deserve and a hacks like Serkis will keep hogging the limelight on late night shows for as long as he lives.

Don't talk about shit you don't know.

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/motion-capture/lord-of-the-rings-animation-supervisor-randall-william-cook-speaks-out-on-andy-serkis-99439.html

>>85063361
Orangutans are the the teachers and bureaucrats. The Chimpanzee are the workers and scientist class. The Gorillas are the law enforcement and defense.

>>85063650
Thanks for clarifying anon. I actually hadn't noticed

>>85050604

Well, he absolutely did underestimate him. Remember, he thought he was just a slightly smarter than your average bear until he started analyzing Colonel's plans and who the opposing force were

>>85035909
Builds a wall instead of a trench. Not a very good tactician.

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>>85061653
>mfw Rocket acted as a distraction and waltz right into the base bold as brass

I thought he was going to die

>>85063721
I think there was a mutual respect thing going on between them. Both knowing they were whatever they could to keep their people alive. I think it was more than pity that prevented Caesar from killing him.

every single movie in this reboot trilogy is fucking garbage. I don't know why you seem surprised. worse than fucking transformers shit. just a poor excuse to see some cgi

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>>85061531

I remember seeing a thread on the catalog with a picture of him and the words "RIP".

Glad it didn't occur.

I was fucking scared for Rocket when he turned himself in. When the Colonel pulled out the gun, I was expecting it to be the end. Really pulled the heart strings

Fuck that kid that shot Ceasar. He fucking spared his life and he's going to put him down? Fucking Donkey to the rescue too and immediate execution. Fuck dude.

Is there anything left if you to save?

This thread only proves a chunk of /tv/ doesn't know how to analyze good films.

>>85034797
There is absolutely no proof that they couldn't have scienced a cure for the retardation.

Also even if they're your enemies cutting the heads of your former superiors is pretty crazy.

>>85062460

Serkis has a huge ego and will throw anyone under the bus if he thinks it gets him closer to an Oscar. The guy is kind of a piece of shit.

You know what makes a good digital performance? Time and money. It's 90% on the tech and man hours of the VFX artists. If the studio is willing to pay up, you'll get something great.

You could replace Serkis with any half decent actor and get similar quality performances.

>>85064252
Tbf that guy that killed Caesar had been told either we kill them or die, then watched his friend catch a new version of the virus, and then watched his m8s get executed for disagreeing. I felt like he had a little bit of hesitation before giving the killing blow, but I'll have to wait for the box set to be sure

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>>85064252
>that entire scene where colonel and caesar first meet
>that music that plays during it
>that shot of the cliff at the edge of the waterfall with the moon visible
That whole scene was pure kino for me.

EVERYONE in the VFX industry dislikes Serkis.

He is like the living embodiment of how shitty Hollywood treats most VFX studios.

>>85034797
THE APES WERE NOT CARRYING THE SECOND STRAIN OF RETARDATION.

It's quite clear that it's a mutation occurring inside the humans only.
Killing the apes would not have stopped the retardation effect.

You had 2 choices kill all humans who mutated, or create a cure.

That said
>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans

Except people would have complained asking how they did that with all the technological advantages humans had. Hell if this is canon to either PotA movie then the apes aren't actually smart enough to create guns.

>Humans fight each other for some retarded reason even though their forces combined easily could've wiped out the ape menace

He wanted to be supreme leader, don't for a fucking second come at with bullshit about how he'd bow to a general who agreed with him, and he lost moral high ground when he cut of the heads of his former superiors.

>Colonel enslaves the apes instead of killing them despite knowing that they're extremely intelligent and ruthless

Once again not causing the new disease, so free slave labor is worth it.

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Can we all agree that Rocket had a hard life?

>>85037427
No it was unironically very good.

I'm not sure why you would trust 4chan over movie reviewers. Like what makes you think people here are any better? Because you agree with them sometimes? I find it hard to believe there isn't a reviewer you'd find your self agreeing with at least 2/3 of the time.

>>85034797
>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans so the filmmakers don't have to delve into the murky ethics of the apes genociding the humans

You don't actually believe what was left of the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE was military forces in California do you? Let alone being the only concentrated pocket of humanity.

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Anyone else thought of Big Boss/Venom Snake when looking at Caesar in this movie? Both looked pretty similar in ways of thinking/personality.

This movie was all about Punished Caesar.

>>85060041
idk mate she seemed rather emotionless about her father being murdered

>>85037427

If you're coming to see a dumb action movie, you'll probably hate it

If you're coming to see the conclusion of Caesar and his clan, you'll love it.

>>85065229

How are you so certain he wasn't raping her anon?

>>85044818
>>85044858

The wall actually survived the entire assault up till the base exploded. I'm sorry but you clearly don't know anything about modern combat if you think we wouldn't still build walls (small ones obviously) and trenches just because we knew they had aircraft.

Otherwise I agree with how Bad Ape was plot convenience, but I don't think you could have done the movie without showing us an Ape that wasn't Cesar's flock. You needed to show how the virus affected other apes. I think best bet would have been to have other apes already in the base.

>Dumb plot convenience #6: The avalanche

While it is convenient it was also certainly something that can happen in real life I think.

>Dumb plot convenience #2: Comedy relief ape stumbling into a sewage tunnel that leads directly into the camp.

This super hard.

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>>85057668
>Someone please explain everything to me
>I don't watch movies that I already know everything about.

>>85043349
>>85043653

Shittiest reviewer on YouTube.

>>85065300
her emotional response would have been even greater in that case. people, especially women, sympathize with their abusers and people, especially women, sympathize with their parents even more so.

>>85064497

This guy gets it. What's crazy to me about all the fanfare around Serkis, and what makes it obvious that people praising him don't really think too hard about the film's and the tech behind them, is that they literally ignore the other actors in the same fucking movies. Like how is Andy Serkis getting all this praise but not Toby Kebbell, who has been just as involved, if not more? What about the guy that does Maurice? Has his name ever been mentioned? Serkis fanboys are a fucking joke.

>>85064560

I'll give the movie this. There was some pretty dope imagery in the first act, even if the plot made as little sense as the second and third.

>>85065389

I think he's a too one-note and narrow-minded a lot of the time but he honestly nailed it with this review. Never thought I'd watch a whole twenty minute video by this guy but this review is excellent.

>>85065797
No, he didn't. He contradicts himself on the simian flu more than once in the movie. He just plain didn't want to like it.

>>85065918
>in the movie
in the review*

>>85044858
Actually, the poop throwing scene could go back to the first movie, where Rocket would've seen Caesar trick Draco Malfoy into opening his cage after getting mad. They played to the weakness of angry men.

>>85043349
>>85043653
Adam is a garbage tier film critic. at redditlettermedia is occasionally funny

>>85066020
I'll also say a lot of people I know in the military are hotheads. They could easily lose control-- especially if someone such as the colonel in war was commanding over them

The avalanche was basically a reference to YHWH wrecking the Egyptians in exodus right? Like the whole movie was just a analogy to the story of Moses, they ended up traveling through the desert to reach the promised land...

Heavy handed but eloquent with the judeo-christian symbolism.

>>85035322
>it ain't me

>>85066257
yes

>>85044474
I wonder who this anon could be

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>MCUcks trying to damage control a movie in fear of the day when Matt Reeves directs the Batman movie.

THAT is how scared the mouse is of DC's Batman.

>>85065918

Not picking a fight here, legit asking - what does he say that sounds contradictory? afaik he just sounded annoyed with the vagueness of the disease.

>>85044883
All reviews should be like this, in that they should contain a facet of the reviewer's persona so we can all go "this guy who uses the word HELLA thinks it sucked, it's probably good then"

>>85066578
Contradict was probably the wrong word. But he fails to connect the dots to some pretty easy shit. "Why doesn't the girl care about her dead dad?" the Colonel explains that his own son didn't really recognize him, but just kind of vaguely trusted him even with a gun to his head.

The Colonel's monologue spells things out about the mutation pretty succinctly IMO.

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>>85061273
>TDK over Apes

>>85064560
I wasn't expecting that scene so soon
Trailer made it look like it's the ultimate climax for the movie

>>85034913
>assuming that critique about a movie about monkeys is automatically associated with hating black people

That's racist you fucking asshole, go back to /pol/

>>85034797
>>Deus ex machina cop-out eliminates all the humans

so what is it?

>>85035909
The Nazis were smart enough to cut the Jews off from their empowering hoards of gold though, as anyone knows it takes 50 coins for a Jew to unleash its True Form.

>>85068678
they have to collect the 7 chaos foreskins first though

>>85068660
An avalanche triggered by a large munitions depot blowing up

It nearly kills the apes too though, and that wasn't part of their plan

>>85061342
Colonel kurtz was right

Are people seriously comparing the human camp to the Holocaust?
>enslaved apes escaping through an underground railroad
ah yes, that just screams jews

>Donkey
>Kongs

K I N O

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>>85035145
I'm tired off all the propaganda. This was as bad as Spider-Man.
>literally 5 seconds into the film someone is chastised for calling native Americans "Indians"
>literally 10 seconds in a black school news reporter is macking on blonde white girl
>the new black Mary Jane's WE speech about how the Washington monument was built by slaves
>both of Peter Parker's love interests are black
>villain's wife is black
>Peter's Mexican school rival has a white blonde girlfriend
>the oh so edgy /b/ Fuck Marry Kill scene with high schoolers fantasizing about old men, also participated in by a gay male

etc. etc.etc.

When is enough enough? I find myself more and more only watching old movies/shows.

This movie didn't have the guts to see anything through, preferring to wash everything away from actual dilemmas with stupid plot devices. You are massive plebs if you think this movie was any good.


>Big Bad has no problem slaughtering Caesar's family when trying to kill him, but keeps Caesar alive when he finally has him for plot progression.
>Movie suggests Caesar goes full nuclear, MGSV trailer style.
>Caesar separates from herd of apes to follow Big Bad, going opposite directions. Yet herd gets captured and transported to base BEFORE Caesar shows up there.
>Ape no kill Ape, huurrr.
>Ginger Donkey will clearly turn good at the last moment.
>Guard don't see literally hundreds of apes just walk out of their prison cells.
>Time to kill Big Bad, oh no he's conveniently sick, oh well. Poor him. Let's let him kill himself off-screen rather than dealing with it.
>Like MGSV, never goes nuclear.
>Yep, Ginger Donkey turned good at the last moment.
>Muh giant canisters of gas right in the middle of the base, in the open, when they know a massive armada is coming to kick their asses.
>Don't know what to do with the whole army now staring at Caesar? AVALANCHE!
>Overly-dramatized death from injury sustained prior, after walking on it for fucking weeks and being fine. Dies right on arrival to their new homes, conveniently.

>>85069262
>>Caesar separates from herd of apes to follow Big Bad, going opposite directions. Yet herd gets captured and transported to base BEFORE Caesar shows up there.
wow it's almost like a faction with military vehicles that know specifically where they're going will travel faster than some apes on horseback that don't really know where to look for most of the movie.

>MUH MGSV MUH NUCLEAR
Back to /v/eddit. You're clearly to retarded to take seriously.

I'm mad that they gave the apes a bunch of comedy relief characters just to manipulate audience

I wish they made the Colonel more of a character, and yeah the blizzard was annoying

Why would the Colonel keep the apes of they are contagious with the retard characters

That last shot of Caesar's face was Oscar-worthy tbqh fham.