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>Released: July 7, 2017 >Box office: $316 million

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>Released: July 7, 2017
>Box office: $316 million
Is this good or not?
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Well it didn't do better overseas which surprises me considering a movie like Tom Cruise's the Mummy had a lot go overseas to that
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>>85002185

Relative to the character and star power involved? No
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>>85002185
Its a fucking disaster.
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>>85002185
What markets has it not open in yet? If it opened in all the major ones, that's very troubling.
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>>85002185
it's Spider-Man back at Marvel with Iron Man and this is the best it can do?

pray for pajeets and China to save it
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>>85002528
Only places it hasn't opened yet are Belgium, Spain and Japan
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>>85002582
Wow this bombed
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Emma Stone isn't in it so IDGAF.
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>>85002560
>Chinese people paying to watch a movie with a white kid who's only love interest is 2 black girls.
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>>85002631
>Emma Stone
My god she was so hot in ASM
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>>85002560
>>85002582
Movie hasn't been released yet in China. Is strange going to IMDb and seeing no China release date

What do they mean by this?
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>>85002185
Worldwide box office will be updated tomorrow. It still has no China release date. It had the strongest domestic first week for every Spider-Man movie.
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If it doesn't hit at least $800 million worldwide then it's a disappointment. Possibly failure. This was supposed out do the Amazing Spider-Man Duology, which fell between the $700-$750 million range.
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Spider-Man 3 made more than that in its opening weekend alone.
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>>85003700

Fuck that. It should be making over a billion. This is BvS all over again
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Spidey should stick to low budget youtube fetish flicks
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According to an insider Rth at BoxOffice forums, Spider-Man looks to be having a week Saturday increase and only on pace for 44-45 million in it's second weekend, down 62% (same % drop as ASM2)

>tfw Wonder Woman 3rd weekend was 41.5 million.
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>>85004898
bvs was actually good though
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>>85002346
the chinks love cruise. it's the only reason he still gets work.
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DUDE BLACK PEOPLE LMAO
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>>85002185
That $316 million more than I have, so I'm going to say yes.
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How do you go from Dunst, BDH, and best Emma to THIS?
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>>85002185
This was a fuckin disappointment desu.
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>>85005307
WE WUZ MJ AND SHIT!!!!!!!!!
Also
>multiculti bro xD millenials are cool and open and progressive FUCK YEAH!! :D
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>>85005307
>wonder why everyone here knows who this is and go to her wikipedia
>she's famous for being on the disney channel and doing some songs i've never heard of
so all the people triggered by her are literal teenagers?
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Fuck it even though marvel won't do it she would be a great felicia hardy as a seductress when peter is in senior or college but she'll probably be too old by then
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>tfw Anton Yelchin couldve done it better
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>>85005096
>Bvs was actually good though
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>>85005307
would be more original than if marvel casted her as mary jane
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>>85005408
Summerfags, nigger.

By mid September all the underage rage will die down some and things will get back to how they belong.
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>>85005522
>Implying WB is ever gonna let her go while she's still viable as Harley.

Her and Gal gonna be pumping out solo films/team films the next 5-7 years.
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>>85005563
Maybe, but Holland is just one problem, the real issue with this movie belongs to Sony, and now Marvel Studios has a hand in it. Outside of using an annoying voice, Holland's all right.
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>>85004898
With it dropping this hard on the second weekend, it'll take a miracle to reach that number. $900 million might still be on the table if does well internationally.
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>>85005813
>Guardians 2 is a sure billion
>Spider-Man: Homecoming has RDJ, so easy billion

>Very possible (maybe even likely ... Guardians for sure) that both will finish below BvS 873.
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>>85002185
Even Iron Man couldn't save this flick.

Maybe this is what Marvel/Disney wants all along..
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>>85005096
it wasnt. Why are you forcing this meme to this day?
Spiderman wasnt perfect but it was way better than BvS
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why do you losers care how much these kikes make on the flick
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>>85005888
>>Spider-Man: Homecoming has RDJ, so easy billion
I'm curious how it would have done without RDJ's presence. Frightening to think about it. It dropped like Spider-Man 3 and ASM2 WITH RDJ.
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>>85002185
I don't think a premiere in the middle of summer is helping it all that much. Normal people are out vacationing, not going out to watch movies.
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>>85005408
Doesn't matter if you know who she is, she's fucking hideous.
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>>85006061
Probably better than ASM2, but not much more than the 260 ASM did in US, 750 worldwide.

But, MAN ... RDJ has appeared (in more than a brief cameo) in 7 MCU films. At some point people aren't gonna keep spending money to hear his quips.
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>>85002185
should've gone with Miles
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>>85006287
>73% drop
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>>85006426
If the rumors are true. Miles morals will be peter Parker and MJ son from the future.
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>>85006867
You are really retarded, aren't you?
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People are sick of Spider-Man, too many films in too short of a time, and the IP doesn't have the mainstream appeal of something like F&F to pull in a billion.
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>>85002185
The movie is great.
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>>85002185
It's been out for like a week, calm your mantits
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Reminder SJW league will flop

DCEU is dead. Bury it
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It is very good. Fun, engaging, solid action
Watch it OP
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>>85008692
This is a post that exists in a world were Wonder Woman dominates the B.O.
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>>85002185
>Is this good or not?

Disney Spider-Man got Aped.com
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>>85007942
>too bad many films in too short of a time
ftfy
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oldfag here. just got home from watching it.

i thought it was pretty fun 2bh.
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>>85005922
I can see them wanting to peak at Infinity War so they can push all efforts on Star Wars.
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is this the end of capeshit
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At this rate it might not even beat BvS, which Marvel Pajeets deemed a huge failure because it had the two biggest DC heroes in it.

Karma's a bitch cocksuckers.
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Probably franchise fatigue. ASM1 and 2 were shit so some people probably tuned out that there was a new one.
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It's too deep for modern audiences
even the after credit scene attacks them
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>>85009221
Kino
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>>85009221
Was this the best after credits scene Marvel has ever created?
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It really should be doing over a billion easily

Spider Man use to be box office gold
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>>85002185

Its second weekend drop indicates that the only ones who care are the Capeshiters. Word of mouth must be mediocre at best, makes way more difference to ticket sales than RT scores.

Regardless anything under $1b will be considered a disaster
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>>85009365
And RDJ IS a huge box office draw with Iron Man 3 alone pulling 1,2 billion.
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>>85005307
>I don't want to see a monument built by slaves
Wow, she's, dare I say /ourgirl/?
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>>85002185
>Spider-Man AND Peter Parker on the same poster
>Tony Stark AND Iron Man on the same poster
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>>85002185
Its good enough, not great.
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>>85009653
>Michael Keaton and Michael Keaton
>Jon Favreau looks like he just got done makin a bitch Happy
>ZENDAYA in her infinite ego fucks up the naming convention
>"""Aunt""" May is on the poster
>Slavery Monument in a weird bubble

This has to be one of the worst posters ever made.
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>>85005307
She looks like an alcoholic
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>>85002346
This is what you got when you make too much niggers in the movie. Chink hate niggers. I can't wait for Black Panther to become office bomb when it comes in and ruin any possibilities for black superhero kĆ­no (until DCEU makes Cyborg solo ofc).
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>>85002631
>>85002695
>tfw AMS will retroactively be great if for no other reason because it wasn't Marvelshit
>mfw Dylan Baker never got to be The Lizard
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Spiderman just isn't cool with kids anymore, I guess. Or maybe YouTube fatigue.
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>>85006003
>>85005572
It actually was.
Unlike Spider-Man Homecoming
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>>85005063
>>WW 3rd week at 41m
Damn, this shit is hotcakes.
Shame the movie was so awful
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>>85009809
If they make a good movie for once, people will like him again.
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>>85002560
>>85009177
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>Sony gives up ASM because it under performed
>Marvel's Spider Man under performs anyway

Kek
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>>85009944
Just admit it, it will never beat BvS at this rate despire starring the two biggest superheroes on film not counting Batman.
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>I'm sorry, George
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>>85002560
>>85009177
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>>85002185

The fact that it will finish lower than BvS just proves that RT scores mean jack shit.
Shitty marketing and mediocre audience reactions have killed any chance of this being deemed a success
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>>85002185
Batman and Superman in the same movie made much more and mcucks still said it underperformed. By that metric Iron Man and Spider-Man in the same movie making that is a flop
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>>85002185
It's made more money than Wonder Woman in the same time frame.
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>>85010408

The fucked up thing is that Homecoming is loved by critics. It shouldn't be earning this few a money.
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>>85010344
Nah without the RT shills this would have never made a 110+ million opening weekend. It's just that even with RT shilling, it still falls short because the film is bad and even normies are tired of recycled Marvel garbage.
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>>85010653
my normie friend said the movie was boring af. not even RDJ could carry the film. also he said the people were so fucking ugly lol
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>>85005307
>cast a black girl as MJ
>b-but shes not really MJ, she's Michelle Jones so its okay!
>cast a poo in the loo as Flash
>this is Flash though, deal with it
I don't get why they did this
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>>85010599
And both characters were already introduced in the franchise, making Homecoming technically a sequel. And popularity wise, Iron Man is above Superman right now.

This shit should be a billion movie, not the garbage fire of a project struggling to make $800M worldwide it is
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>>85002185
Considering Sony killed their planned Spider-Man universe because TASM2 made about $700 million, it's not good for them when also considering they're in a deal with Disney.
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>>85010735
Probably because they knew he wasn't going to become Venom now we've found out they're doing a separate thing with Tom Hardy.
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>have paid shills mock BvS box office results for a year straight
>when your own BvS calibre film doesn't even come close to it despite the shilling power of all of social media and Rotten Tomatoes and a record breaking marketing campaign
BRAVO MARVEL
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>>85010831
Civil War - 1.132 billion USD

BvS - 872.7 million USD

hmm.
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>>85002185
they would have spent more than that on advertising, that shit was everywhere
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>>85010790
all the toy earnings are going towards straight to Disney lmao. considering the movie will barely make bank Sony got played again lol
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>>85010870
Now compare Wonder Woman to Homocumming
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>>85010883
fucking this. i was getting tired seeing Spiderman ads all over
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>>85010870
>Civil War 1.1 billion
>Iron Man 3 1.2 billion


hmmmmm really makes ya think
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>>85010889
Kevin Feige drove his cock up Pascal's ass so hard. I can't believe how bad Sony are at business. It won't be long before someone buys their film division and God save us all if it's Disney.
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>>85010908
Homecoming has made more than Wonder Woman has in the same time frame, and it hasn't been released in China
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>>85002185

It's a flop, but not a bomb. Flop means it has not done anywhere near what the studio hoped for, a bomb is when you lose a lot of money, this will make the money back eventually.

Looking at the numbers, the movie cost $175 million in production and likely another $80-100 million in promotion, so let's say $175+90=$265 million to produce and market.

So far it has earned $175 million domestically of which the studio/distributor gets ~60% = $105 million, and $140 million foreign of which the studio gets ~30% = $42 million, so total money the studio/distributor has earned so far = ~$150 million.

That means they are ~$115 million short as of now (265-150), which needs to be earned before the movie starts making a profit.
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>>85010870

These are not really comparable.

Civil War was essentially Avengers 3 starring 12 major MCU superheros
BvS was just a Batman movie starring Superman with a WW cameo
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>>85010344
>>85010653

Homecoming plus another questionably titled movie "The Force Awakens" is proof Disney is influencing the review press.


>>85009738
>This has to be one of the worst posters ever made.

Zendaya who plays "MJ", who is not Mary Jane, despite barelly being in the movie, is on the poster. Laura Harrier, who has a larger role playing Parker's love interest "Liz Allan" is not on the poster, not even listed. Donny Glover is listed in the small print.
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honestly seems to be a symptom of superhero fatigue.

putting out so many hero movies so quickly kills the hype and people are being more selective on what to see.
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>>85010870
>characters with previous introductory movies in Civil War: 10
>characters with previous introductory movies in BvS: 1
You're right, it made me think all right
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>>85011018
They're actually very comparable considering they cost the exact same to make and probably market and BvS even moved its release date to March because they were originally coming out the same day or within a week of one another.
Characters in the movie have nothing to do with it. WB. shouldn't have blown their load so early.
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>>85011120
You are saying this in a summer where Wonder Woman is about to hit 800m WW. A fucking female superhero made on a relatively modest budget.

Nah people are just tired of the Marvel formula.
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>>85011159
>WB blown their load
>while every DC film they release is more profitable than the one before
Nah they're winning big time as of now. SS was probably the most profitable film released in 2016 and WW might be the most profitable film of 2017.
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>>85002346
>that heavy domestic ratio
lmao flop incoming
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>>85002185
Maybe people is getting tired of seeing the exact same movie again and again and again.
I wonder who will be the next spiderman in 5 years?
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>>85009988
digits don't lie
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>>85011376
This movie was nothing like the other Spider-Man movies though. How about actually watching it before shitposting.
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>>85011420
It's exactly like every other Marvel movie though
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>>85009534
That was four years ago
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>>85010821
they were never going to produce Agent Venom senpai, normies dont even know it exists, and it would just be spiderman with a gun fights terrorists, with a gun. People want Eddie Brock venom
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>spiderman 'learning the ropes' and dealing with anxiety been done twice before
>spiderman also keeping his identity very much to himself
>new spiderman film
>HEY HE'S A KID LEARNING THE ROPES AGAIN TRYING TO JUGGLE BEING SPIDERMAN AND HAVING A SOCIAL LIFE AND THE ANXIETIES OF THIS LIFE. ALSO EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS SPIDERMAN AND WEVE SCRAPPED HIS SPIDER SENSE
and people were kicking off BvS was taking a shit on Batman's character..
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>>85011548
But my Rotten Tomatoes experts said this was the best Spider-Mon and Marveā„¢l had done it again????
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>>85011218
>SS was probably the most profitable film of 2016
http://deadline.com/2017/04/most-profitable-movies-2016-secret-life-of-pets-deadpool-disney-1202060846/

It was the 10th highest
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>>85011548
>AND WEVE SCRAPPED HIS SPIDER SENSE
He dodged the Vultures wings.
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>>85011587
That doesn't factor home platform sales where SS kept the same pace as Deadpool last I checked.
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>>85002769
>"""media regulators"""

a superpower, they said
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>>85002185
>just remembered this movie exists, did i hate it and want to shitpost about it at every opportunity /tv/?
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>>85002185
Nope, Wonder Woman is basically tearing it down
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>>85012052
>shart
>all-american hero
Canon, very realistic.
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>>85012052
>dcucks
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>>85012052
SAVED
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>>85012052
>dat poo in the loo reference
Stay kino DChads
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>>85002185
>alienate half the country
>prominent placement on advertising and in the film
>flop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ENWSYhu68
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>>85002185

>Is this good or not?

Not good, what's worse is that the most lucrative foreign market, China, hasn't given it a release date, meaning it will not open there until august at the earliest, if at all. The vast majority of potential chinese viewers will have watched a rip by then.
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>>85011498
>normies dont even know it exists
Because they knew what GotG were
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>Best MCU film ever (so far)
>shit box office (worse than Thor)

Fuck my shit up
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>>85005307
>w-we need to reflect societal changes!!
White men don't want to date black women
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>73% Fri-to-Fri drop
It's a disaster.
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>it's a /tv/ pretends to know anything at all about finance and or the budget of blockbusters, what they need to break even and disregards all other forms of profit through toys, product placement etc.

Just shut the fuck up, none of us know a thing about what it needs to make or the actual budget.
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>>85002435
I promised the devil my first born son in a Faustian like bargain if he cursed Sony to self destruct by 2020, so I think I can take responsibility for this.

Jokes on him, I'm never having kids
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>>85014658
The total cost is production budget x2 (advertising is huge for MCU films)
The total studio take is as low as 50% box office (cinemas get their cut of the ticket price)
What this means is that profitability can only start when box office is 4x the production budget
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>>85011002
I would guess their advertising/OR was closer to 130m tbqhmate
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>>85014892
Sure thing bud
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>>85015080
Explain how I'm wrong?
SM:H is $175m production budget, that puts profitability around $700m
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>>85014658
Sony.
Get.
Nothing.
From.
Spider-Man.
Merchandise.

Amy Pascal signed their slice of that 4 billion a year pie away thinking that their Amazing Spider-Man cinematic universe was going to be so lucrative with multiple billion dollar films each year.
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>>85002185
Shame. It was pretty solid fun if you can get over it being about teenagers.
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>>85002346
too much "diversity" for foreign countries to like it
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Black girls don't go watch Spider-Man movies
White girls don't go watch Star Wars movies

These studios are retarded
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>baka

How wonderfully poetic.
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>>85005307
she always reminds me of one of will smiths sons
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>>85009797
Cyborg solo movie is gonna bomb hard.
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>>85005522
I doubt they would have played up her seductress and sexy parts while being under either sony or disney
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>>85015226
>baka
>s.m.h.

Now I know why no one's been making that joke on the regs.
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>>85005408
>so all the people triggered by her are literal teenagers?
Welcome to /tv/. Enjoy your stay.
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>>85002185
serious question and no /pl/ baiting.
how much better do you think would the movie have done if it had featured an almost exclusive white cast like the old movies and the original comics?
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>>85014892
plus the money the movie studios make back from the Chinese box office is far lower than in the west, it's like 25% there.

This is why films that do well in China still don't always get sequels (warcraft for instance)
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SJWS blown the fuck out
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>>85005408
know idea who she is. she just looks pretty ugly in my opinion ( even if she isnĀ“t supposed to play MJ a red haired white beauty) and had the most sjw lines in the entire movie
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>>85005307
I liked her and thought she was cute.
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>>85012052
Based Gal
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>>85015142
The sony leaks make it clear that sony is run by a select group of gold medalist Special Olympians.
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>>85014838
you fool.
you should have build a bridge and then promise the devil the first 3 soles that cross it if he kills Sony.
then you should have just sent a bunch of chickens over it
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>>85009534
He kind of ruined his career since then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ENWSYhu68
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>>85015542
>RDJ ruined his career
Is /tv/ the most delusional board on 4chan?
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>>85015416

>The sony leaks make it clear that sony is run by a select group of gold medalist Special Olympians.

Like all the other studios it's being run by jews, however these are the jews who were so bad the other studios didn't want them, basically they are the worst of a bunch of people who only got to where they were due to nepotism.

And it's the cucked japs who are picking up the tab, why Sony hasn't realized they are being played by the jews only shows how inredibly stupid they are in turn.
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>>85015581
Numbers speak louder than shills.
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>>85015516
>the first 3 soles
>a bunch of chickens
Chickens dont wear shoes. Congratulations, you just played yourself.
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>>85005813
That picture shits me because It's from Hickman's Avengers which was in 2013, Parker was already CEO of Parker Industries since Superior Spider-man in 2011-2012.
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>>85015661
Guy you're replying to is a bit of a douche but he has a point. RDJ's last big role before this was in the San Quentin production of Guys and Dolls until Jon Favreau and the studio took a chance on him for Iron Man
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>>85015907
You aren't keeping in mind demographics are you?

The kind of people who see a capeshit are not the same as the kind of people who see guys and dolls.

Of course liberals like him, we are talking about mass mainstream appeal though.
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>>85016017
God you're dense. He's saying that RDJ's career was dead before the MCU, and it's true. Regardless of how many Trump voters that pissed off and are no longer fans of his, it's still a net gain for him.
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>>85016053
He ruined his career is the point.

He is no longer the asset he used to be to Marvel.
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>>85016017
The Guys and Dolls thing was a joke... San Quentin is a prison in California. Maybe he did do a musical there idk but yeah.

Point is, he was damaged goods. A junkie, bigtime. Studios don't want the hassle. But he'd got clean on the inside and he knew he was perfect for the role, knew it was just what his career needed after his not just metaphorical but literal trials, campaigned hard for the role and got it. But if he hadn't done that he might be remembered for Wonder Boys lol
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>>85015249
I thought Cyborg was gonna be paired up with another character
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>>85016130
Now he is again.
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>>85002185
I already went to see it twice. Gonna watch it again tonight.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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