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Why can't Americans get this Godzilla thing right? They've

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Why can't Americans get this Godzilla thing right? They've failed twice now.
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>>84962076

This remains the most disappointing movie I've ever spent money to see. It felt like a two hour long army recruitment commercial with monsters occasionally making cameos.
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>>84962076
2014 Godzilla was literally Nip Godzilla. It got standing ovations in Japan. It didn't do great because it was chink Godzilla.

People expected the blockbuster style of that asshole Roland Emmerich rather than the dramatized version of it that the Nips like. I actually find it super ironic that people hate this film because its exactly what an American version of a nip godzilla would look like. Wanna talk about shit? Lets talk about the 1999 version.
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>>84962076
They fucked up Godzilla on the first one, but they actually got a little TOO close on the second attempt. Call him huge or what have you but the amount of boring and forgettable human subplot to monster action and the whole heroic Godzilla thing is pure Showa. Unfortunately, Showa had a lot of flaws due to not having much of a budget that really stand out when you've got a fuckhuge budget. We shouldn't be getting next to nothing when you've got million to burn, Kong figured that shit out and that's why his movie made more worldwide. So while they tried to be faithful, they didn't understand what they were faithful to.

Interstingly, 1998 Godzilla is a spot on near perfect adaptation of a completely different monster movie, Beast from 2000 Fathoms, an american movie that inspired the original Godzilla!
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>>84962164

Having the monsters fight in the middle only to have the movie cut away from the action to a tv screen was fucking bullshit. If they'd shown the fight in the middle, then the movie wouldn't have felt so overdrawn.
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>>84962076
Japan has far more failures, but then again their success percentage is higher than 0%.
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>>84962076
Just like what >>84962164 said, Godzilla 2014 was literally just your average Jap Godzilla movie but with CGI.
The majority of complaints people have with Godzilla 2014 are complaints that are shared among the majority of the Jap movies as well, but people tend to conveniently ignore that. It's almost as if these people have ever seen a Godzilla movie before.
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>>84962164
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>>84962197
>Beast from 2000 Fathoms, an american movie that inspired the original Godzilla!
It came out a year before Gojira. Was shooting so fast back then that they could have drawn inspiration from it?
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>>84962076

I actually really loved it, such a cock tease bae
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>>84962268
>1998 Godzilla had better attendance in Japan than 2014

Well it did have a top tier marketing campaign
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>>84962314
Nope! Tomoyuki Tanaka, a producer at Toho Studios, read a synopsis of The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms on a plane ride about a dinosaur rising up from the waters, and inspired him to make a monster movie with an idea he had about fishermen who had been affected by the atomic bomb.
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>>84962076
the 94 godzilla wasn't too bad. still waiting for a sequel on that one

the new one was complete shit though. but fortunately shin godzilla was pretty dope
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>>84962368
this
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>>84962410
Godzilla 2014 had the advantage of being the first thing after a decade long absence. Similar to Jurassic World and The Force Awakens. Except, unlike those films, it didn't set the world on fire. Shin Godzilla came afterwards and blew it out of the water.
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>>84962076
All they needed to do was take out some of the cliche human sequences and make a more interesting monster for Godzilla to fight.
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>>84962076
Wrong, it was on par with some of the best Godzilla movies and they finally did it right. People crying about too much human time have never watched a Godzilla movie before.

Even the original Godzilla movie didn't have much godzilla in it.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>84962265
>Godzilla 2014 was literally just your average Jap Godzilla
Not really. There are a few major differences. Godzilla 2014 has a 30-40 minute longer running time, teases the monsters until the third act, has one of the smallest amounts of screen time for Godzilla, and focuses on a single character instead of an ensemble cast. After you account for all of that you can say they're similar I guess.
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>>84962076
Because they have to add the fucking military to it like in Transformers for the "redneck crowd".

Thats why Pacific Rim was so great. It was just pure fun, none of that human bullshit.
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Leave kaijukino to me
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>>84963068

Anon there was too much human bullshit in PacRim. Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon didn't have enough time for their own fights.
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>>84963068
>best fight happens before the climax of the film
>tons of human bullshit

DelTaco a shit
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>>84963127
I agree. I really hope Pacific Rim 2 isn't just more Gypsy Danger fellatio.
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>>84963073
> Most critically acclaimed Godzilla film since Gojira (1954)
> Nominated for 11 Japanese Academy Awards and won 7. Also won several other awards.
> 2nd highest grossing Japanese film of 2016
> Most successful Japanese Godzilla film since the 1960s
> Funimation was so impressed with its North American run it extended it from one week to one month. Did this with minimal marketing.
> Evangelion x Godzilla crossover merchandise sold like hotcakes
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The only thing bad about that movie was the colour was too dark.
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2014>>>>Kang Kong:2017>>>>>>>>Capeshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>annoshit=1999
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>>84963837
i wont go that far but i agree Anno cock sucking here is getting annoying
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>>84963837
This
Shin was dogshit, rather watch any of the shitty MCU crap than sit through another fucking thing made by that hack Anno
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>>84963877
Too many huniepop evangelion weebs on here
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>>84964033
Better than muh realism fags and their disingenuous apologia
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>>84963050
At least the Japs actually show Godzilla.
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>>84963930
agree too

only good scene in shin was the atomic breath.
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>>84963050
Annofags everyone
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>>84962076
That one was pretty good
2 will be pure kaijukino though
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>thinking shin is much better
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>>84962197
>the boring and forgettable human subplot and the whole anti-hero Godzilla thing is pure Heisei
ftfy
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I love the Japanese zilla movies, I just wish there was more stereotypical anime voices. I really don't hear enough
>b-bakana!!
>NANI???
>mudada
>yare yare

In the godzilla franchise
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>>84963837
>>84963930
>>84964524
>>84964697
>>84963050
Only patrician opinions ITT
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>>84964085
>>84964033
>MUH CONTRARIAN
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>tfw I like both Japanese AND American Godzillas and I'm listening to all of this nonsense

Keep up your pointless rantings and shitlfingings, children, while I actually enjoy the films.
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>>84962076
Wait a minute, that poster
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So should I watch Shin Godzilla tonight?
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>>84964874
>Should i watch garbage?
No, just pop in 2000 or Hedorah for a better film than shinshit
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>>84964759
What's the list of patricians? Amuse me. While you're at it defend Godzilla 2014. Without "it's the same as Japanese movies," because that's not even true.
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Godzilla 2014 was alright, Kong was fun, Godzilla 2 sounds stellar, and Godzilla vs Kong is gonna be kino.

I can feel it.
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>>84964927
/thread
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>>84964927
But I like Eva. Surely I can pretend I'm watching an Evangelion spinoff.
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>>84965010
Is mostererse the only cinematic universe that worked post-MCU bandwagon besides DCU?
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>>84964927
>garbage
Meme opinion. What criticisms do you have for Shin Godzilla that doesn't apply to almost every other Godzilla movie 10x over?
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>>84965087
So far it's doing decently I guess. It's the only one to actually get more than one character's movies in and get a crossover produced at least.
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Sup, little bitches.
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>>84965087
>>84965169
when's the monsterverse gonna get gamera/godzilla/kong/ultraman together to form the kaiju avengers and fight destroyah?
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>>84965169
I thinks it's going to feel repetitive with Godzilla 2 ad GvK. I hope they pull something new; not necessarily along the lies of a shared universe ala MCU but inside that universe.
All the background and cutted out monsters from Skull Island were top notch.
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>>84965177
Got to admit you got the best theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqRk6wBfOLc
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>>84962076
The problem was the movie died with Brian Cranston. That first act was superb imho.
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>>84965437
Gamera is really neat! Gamera is filled with meat! We've been eating Ga-me-raaaaaaa!

Senorita Gamera
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Objective List of Kaiju Kino
1) Gojira
2) Mothra vs Godzilla
3) Shin Godzilla
4) Gamera: Revenge of Iris
5) Gamera: Guardian of the Universe
6) GMK
7) Monster Zero
8) Gamera the Brave
9) Mothra
10) Rodan
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>>84962233
Only time I've heard an entire theater full of people groan out loud. There's saving your monster for the end of your movie and then there's being a fucking tease and denying your audience what they want to see.
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>>84963068
Lots of the Jap movies had the military playing a major role.
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>People unironically like pure dogshit known as Shin Godzilla

First off. I saw this during a limited Funimation theatrical release, and I'm not lying, probably 50 or more percent of the people in the theatre were seniors. Me and my girlfriend are 23 and we had an old couple in front of us and on both sides of us, the entire theatre smelled like old people.

Second off, people were checking their phones 30 minutes in. It was distracting. The old man sitting beside me fell asleep and I knew when he fell asleep because his breathing changed from quiet to slow and heavy and the old lady in front kept turning around to see who was making so much noise.

Third off, when the movie ended, only 1 group of fatass geeks awkwardly clapped. I felt so embarrassed for them, myself, and everyone around me. They started off clapping so confidently, like they thought they could get everyone else to clap too. Then the old lady on the other side of me was about to start clapping but when she saw no one else was joining along with them she changed her mind. Everyone left the theatre in dead silence.

How the hell can you Annofaggots defend this shit?
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>>84964759
Thanks for listing every retard with shitty taste. Even without Godzilla Shin would be a better movie than 2014 Godzilla.
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>>84964874
Yes. It's legitimately good and the only people that disagree are contrarians and people that dislike the director because muh Evangelion.
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>>84964955
>>84965123
>>84965833
>Ywn be this butthurt by a random Anon
I guess shinfags can't handle people not liking their own crappy flick
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>>84965038
If you like Eva you'll definitely like it. It's as close to a live action Eva there is.
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>>84965914
No. Simply curious about the rationalization process a person must take to unironically think Godzilla 2014 is good and Shin Godzilla is irredeemable garbage. Really intrigues me.
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>>84965808
This fucking copypasta
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>>84965808
>this actually happened
And even if it did
>a bunch of old fucks fell asleep so I didn't like it

Great criticism of the film
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>>84965914
>your life will never be so pathetic you pretend to dislike something on the internet for attention and then reply to yourself so you can feel like there are people that share your shitty opinion
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>>84962197
Nigga G14 is nothing like any of the Showa films. G14 is a bland popcorn flick with muh realism, the Showa films are mostly lighthearted with an ensemble cast.
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>>84965983
>>84966017
More like autism to defend a fucking film about a fire breathing lizard

Are zillafags really hurt other tards like films over other about the same lizard?
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>>84964815
Shut the fuck up Millennium fag.
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>>84966081
>Inventing conspiracy theories about how people don't like a film
>Clearly a samefag
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Even TK members have better opinions on Godzilla films lmao
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>>84962076
it's kino you dumb pleb
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>>84966093
So you just really want people to know what a spineless faggot you are right? Put up or shut up. You aren't trolling XD anyone, no ones mad, you're just pathetic and that's sad
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>>84966093
It must suck, having absolutely nothing else to do on a Friday night but shitpost on /tv/.
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>>84965808
>americlaps
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I'm stoked for Godzilla 2 feat. KING GHIDORAH
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>>84965202
Gamera is a Toho rip off so I doubt they'll ever want him next to their monsters.
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Do people unironically dislike Shin or is it a meme? I mean, how can anyone be that much of a philistine? It MUST be bait, right?
I don't care if you hate Anno, but there's no denying that Shin is a beautifully shot and actually has something to say, unlike most Godzilla films.
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>>84966248
Bad meme. The Godzilla elitists on facebook hated it because "REEEEEEE NATIONALISM"
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>>84966248

Oh it definitely had something to say with all the lazy text all over the screen.
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>>84966308
>missing the point of the text
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>>84966181
>>84966186
>They say while talking about kids films about a walking lizard that breathes fire
Please kill yourselves for enjoying capeshit-tier flicks
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>>84966248
it was directly inspired by the original godzilla movie which was a very politically charged movie about the horrors of nuclear bombs
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>>84966248
>Shin is a beautifully shot
>Meanwhile >>84963050 Exist
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>>84966450
context don't matter
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>>84966450
There's nothing wrong with that shot, you may dislike de CG, but the composition itself is good.
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>>84966450
>one scene

I guess G54 is shit because a couple of scenes don't look as good as the rest.
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>>84966497
the cg was intentional, Anno did it like that just to give it that unnatural look.
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>>84963050
>>84966450
>MFW it looks worse than the average MCU film
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>>84962076
>failed twice
you mean three times
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>>84966536
Yeah, I also think so, given how good the CG is for its final form. But I can see how some may find it immersion-breaking.
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>>84966566
okay lamango
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>>84966248
>>84966425
Godzilla 2014 is the Batman v Superman of the kaiju genre. It's a meme to pretend it's great or anything worth serious consideration.

>>84966308
pic related

>>84966582
KotM is a perfectly respectable film.
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>>84966584
>think so
Anno literally said that was the reason, if it hadn't he wouldn't have made it cg considering he's usually anti-cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrXTS10h2WI
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>>84966582
dude kotm is so bad hah dumb gaijins ruin everything amirite or amirite
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>>84966633
>KotM is a perfectly respectable film.
>japan makes political film
>it's a huge success
>americans want it overseas
>afraid no one will watch it
>remove all the political stuff
>have it all narrated by some american who explain everything thats going on for those who don't understand whats going on
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You're all fags. G14 and Shin are both 6/10 flicks. The difference is that Shin is the one that thinks its something more than that.
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>This is how Annofags white knight a shitty film worse than "Raids again" and "Revenge"
Holy fuck
Even BvSfags aren't this delusional
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>>84966753
go watch fast and furious 20 then you homo
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>you share a board with retards that think Shin Kinozilla is on the same level as the piece of trash that was G14
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>>84966387
>everything I hate is a meme word we created because movies make us ANGRY! SO ANGRY GRRRRRR!

Keep being a faggot, child.
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>>84966760
How fucking stupid do you have to be to even think Shin is good?
This threads is nothing but pleb central
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>>84966856
>ANGRY! SO ANGRY GRRRRRR!
>Child
You realize you ousted yourself as an assmad underage kid right zillafag?
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>>84966692
> remove all the nuclear stuff
Did you even watch the movie? Sure the theme is not as explicit. But it's still there. Much of the basic story is still intact. Same goes for the score. And I rather enjoy the documentary feel to it. KotM is the lesser of the two versions, though it's still a legitimately good film and complements the original cut nicely.

>>84966753
> G14
> Not a pretentious bore
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>>84966948
read the post again
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>>84966929
>NO U!
>projecting

Who's the one pissing himself in a thread about something he hates desperately demanding the attention his parents never gave him.

(You)
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>>84966753
>>84966760
>>84966880
Don't even try to argue Anons, these fags are as idiotic as most EVAfags that think it's deep
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>>84966980
What the fuck tangent are you on?

You realize 4chan is for people over the age of 18 right?
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>>84965833
spoken like a true weeb cocksucker
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> it's a legendary fags derail the conversation with elementary tier tactics because they're unable to defend their opinions with actual arguments episode
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>>84967026
>comes into a thread about something he hates just to scream and shit everywhere
>goes into full retard mode when told to piss off
>now posting anime game screenshot reaction images and trying to talk like he's sophisticated and superior

Quite the dedicated troll.
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>>84967084
And yet legendary fags succeeded
Show how much more retarded shiniggers are than G14faggots
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>>84967130
>Lizardfag spergs out about how someone doesn't like his capeshit-tier flicks
>Tries to act like an internet badass but comes off as a agressive closeted homo
>Somehow deludes himself into thinking he isn't the shit flinging retard
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>>84967165
Don't you have a country you're supposed to be running? Get out of here.
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>>84967251
(You)
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>>84962137
friends got caught trying to sneak 40s so they chugged in a bathroom and came in during opening credits. afterwards they drunkenly yelled at me the whole walk home for picking the movie. they had no idea how horrible I already felt
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>>84966181
>>84966186
>>84966856
>>84966980
>>84967130
>>84967462
>Being so autistic you prove a shitposter right
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>>84963067
this. Shin Gojira felt like a redemption.
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I didn't know Godzilla threads were this awful now. I remember the threads when Shin came out on bluray, those were fantastic. What happened, /tv/?
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>>84967593
/tv/ finally grew some taste
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>>84967593
> what went wrong?
a mix of trolls and >>84967084
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>>84967593
>boohoo muh weeb circlejerk threads
shin and jap godzilla faggots are the worst
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Shin Godzilla felt like a retarded over-the-top anime

2014 felt like a really well-done disaster movie from a military perspective
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>>84962137
>>84967522
>Ayo nigga, dis film is sheet cuz military wuznt filled with niggas with malt 40's n sheet
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>>84967629
>>84967619
>>84967532
>we can't stand seeing anyone talk about things we don't like so we fart and poot and hurp and pfft instead if simply going into threads we like and hiding the thread that makes us buttfuckingly angry

I know it's chan culture to be retarded ebcause anonymity protects you from retaliation, but this is just pathetic.

>>84967676
And then there's faggots like you who think they can only like one thing.
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Notice the lack of any real discussion from those who allegedly enjoyed Godzilla 2014. Instead they offer:
> better than the Emmerich flick
> better/equal to the Japanese flicks
> if you don't like Godzilla 2014 then you've never seen a Godzilla flick
> at least I'm not a weeb who like chinese cartoons
> nitpicking single frames and superficial details about Shin Godzilla
> it's faithful to the source material (as if that inherently makes a good movie)
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>>84967720
Kill yourself 2014fag
Your retardation is killing gozilla threads and is making /tv/ worse
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>>84967720
I liked 2014
I didn't like Shin

You dongus
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>>84967788
>>84967803
Prime examples of >>84967720
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>>84967803
>2014fag

I like ALL Godzillas. So you can take your bait and rape your mother with it, troll.
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I disliked it when I first saw it in theaters but after rewatching it again in 4k it would have been a decent flick if they had shown the fight in the middle to tide the audience over until the end.

The first act up until the MUTO awakens is actually well paced and well shot and the third act from golden gate to the end is great but the middle sucks dick
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>>84967851
>>84967720
> asking for legitimate discussion is "being unable to handle people criticizing what you like"
wew
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this thread is giving me /v/ ptsd.
im about to go fucking postal on /tv/ i swear to god. /v/ baitposting scum need to fuck off.
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>>84962076
They did, it was called Cloverfield
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>>84962076
It's ridiculous how fat and big they made Godzilla in this movie. It's even more ridiculous now that they want manlet gorilla to fight him. Btw the Jap movies are no masterpieces either.
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>>84968224
He was slightly slimmed down in the Japanese video game
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>>84968072
I didn't see you ask for anything, only contributing to the retardation.
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>>84968392
Maybe they will put him on a diet before they start shooting the next film.
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>>84968507
Someone on the Monster Planet creative team admired the look. Just look at anime Godzilla. Btw, he is going to be taller than both Legendary and Shin.
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>>84962164
I'm Gojira and I approve of this message.
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The build up through the entire movie was fucking tense. It may be a cock tease but god damn it made the final fight actually hype.

Also Godzilla movies post original are only as good as the monsters he fights, and the Muto were pretty good with a few glaring flaws.
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I really liked skull island... the monsters, era & characters were all pretty good
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>>84964874

Go for it, it's essentially Evangelion featuring Godzilla as an angel.
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>>84970078
> The build up through the entire movie was fucking tense. It may be a cock tease but god damn it made the final fight actually hype.
Every up until Cranston's death was fantastic. However, the second act was absolutely abysmal and the third act doesn't fully reward the viewer for their patience. Less than ten minutes of quality Godzilla material isn't good enough for nearly two hours of a dull human narrative.

> Also Godzilla movies post original are only as good as the monsters he fights
I'd argue that Honda's first several Godzilla films (Gojira - Monster Zero) are unironically good and are among the best of the genre. Haven't seen the Japanese version of King Kong vs Godzilla, so I can't really comment on that one. Kaneko, Banno, and Anno also delivered great films. Not just the monsters or the fights. But the characters/actors, cinematography, score, and the narratives.
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>>84970519
I'm just commentating how weird it seems that the better Godzilla films have the better monsters.

It's a general trend I found while going through the series on my way up to Godzilla 2014. Although as I said, it's a general trend and not a direct fact.
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>>84962076
I agree. Shin Godzilla was fucking superb though
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I just like Godzilla movies because I think they're fun to watch. I like big ol monsters, and Godzilla's the best one.
Why do people get so angry at movies?
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>>84962137

What do you have against the army libcuck?

Do you even understand that they go overseas to make sure those bad guys out there dont come here to shut your cuckold commie mouth while you praise the BBC and communism during your rallies?
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>>84965202
Yo, don't even joke about hype shit like that.
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>>84963050

If you don't get what they were going for in this scene, you should get off 4chan in general.
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>tfw you like both Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla
God why must kaijufags always have to be so fucking annoying iwth their respectives tastes.
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Who hype for Hedorah in Godzilla 3?
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>>84962618
> 94 Godzilla
SpaceGodzilla already has a sequel, anon
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>>84966566
It actually looks interesting and aims to, instead of striving for a braindead artless realism. Fuck you and your shit taste.
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>>84972635
>Cultivated taste annoys me because I don't have real opinions.
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>>84967676
>Shin Godzilla felt like a retarded over-the-top anime
This is a good thing.

>2014 felt like a disaster movie from a military perspective
This is a bad thing.
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>>84968018

I also felt that the middle of Shin sucked too.
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>>84965177
Gamera Watch Out!
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>>84975090
Hedorah's hinted at being the common foe that Kong and Godzilla team up to fight in their crossover movie, and was also hinted at in the MonsterVerse lore.
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>>84963050
Cute!
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>>84962076
They got Godzilla himself mostly right. This movie's problems come from not only a lack of Godzilla himself, but from too much focus on a boring as fuck character that sucks ass. It felt like 2 thirds of the movie was just him and he fucking sucks. I wish the movie had focused on Cranston's character (sorry to beat a dead horse but it's true) or at least Serizawa and his qt assistant.
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>>84977120
>It actually looks interesting
>Looks like playdough with MCU tier """CGI"""

>instead of striving for a braindead artless realism
>Conveniently forgetting the political shit with a useless Jap military
Eat a dick you retarded mental midget, Shinshit is plebian as fuck
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