>A superhero movie that actually has the balls to not be a

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>>84918192
>manlet twink homosexual playing Spider-man
>spic manlet Flash
>black Liz
>black MJ
>asian Ned
>BLACKED Vulture
>capekino

>>84918192
Again it's not Marvel's way of making a small hero, like say Logan, it's Marvel's way of making a literal comedy. And in comedy, you keep stakes low.

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>>84918248
your demographic not getting represented enough? perhaps write about it on your tumblr

>>84918248
>BLACKED Vulture

Get your memes straight, he COLONIZED that woman.

>>84918192
It's for children you retard.

>relatable characters.
Did we watch the same movie? It's basically the highschool musical cast with capeshit coat

>>84918248
>manlet twink homosexual
You say this like it's a bad thing

>>84918341
Making a Spider-Man movie a teen comedy wasn't actually a bad idea.

As far as MCU movies go this was easily the funniest one.

>>84918413
>A superhero movie is for children.

No shit.

>>84918192
How disauthentic. I live in NYC and help elderly Hispanic women all the time, and i dont even get a simple thank you, let alone get anything as close to a churro for my time and efforts of being a good citizen.

Flick dropped

>>84918192

>>churro

Of course they pick the most Mexican food

>>84918341
Logan wasn't very good though. Good premise and acting wasted on such an underwhelming script.

>>84918617
A true hero helps and expects nothing in return Anon.

>>84918617
he's spiderman, you're probably a pasty weirdo

why do mexicans look like toad people?

>>84919118
Esoteric Order of Dagon.

>>84918192
Nice shill thread, faggot. Go back to plebbit.

>>84918646
churros are one of the most widely available street food desserts in new york

Diversity is our strength. That is unquestionable. Whites are responsible for every single problem in this world. That is unquestionable. This film has too many white people in it to be kino. It's not diverse enough.

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>>84918248
>twinks
>bad
get a load of this faggot

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>>84918192
>relatable characters.
None of the characters was relatable , It was teen comdey with exaggerated and unrealistic characters
This movie is aim for the lower denominator of the teen audience.

can spiderman get food poisoning?

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You JUST know

>>84918248
>spic manlet
>6 feet
lol

>>84918617
Maybe where a spiderman outfit next time?

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>>84919118
their food is filled with garbage

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>>84919469
I'd pay good money for some Hemsworth on Holland action

>>84918646
Churros are delicious, faggot.

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>>84919519
>>84919118
>>84919239
>>84919239
because /pol/ likes to cherrypick bad pictures of mexicans to make them feel better about their own albino ape faces
pic related is your average mexican
he has such a generic face that I wouldn't have guessed he was an actor

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>>84919759
>average mexican

>>84919759
If this is the average mexican why didn't they cast him?

whats a churro

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>>84918192
if some skinny faggot like in some weird gay tight latex cosplay outfit approuched me i would fucking beat him up
wtf is wrong with marvel

>>84919494
wot? the shitskin was who plays flash is a midget

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>>84918192
Was bilt by slaves

>>84918192
He doesn't even wear a cape, you dumbshit.

>>84920062
They called Native Americans

>>84918192
Kickass?

>>84920062
So the fuck what? Man up, little boy.

>>84918855
This. Wealth and fame, he ignores. Action is his reward.

>>84919501
My husband won't make one

>>84918192
It's still a kid taking down the bad guys. It's a power fantasy, just like all superhero media, you mong.

>>84918855
His point was that nobody gives anything back, not that he was expecting something.

>>84919882
Bruh, have you never had a churro?
Its super crispy fried dough covered in cinnamon and sugar. Sometimes they have filling like cream or chocolate syrup. It's a super common street food. Its really cheap to make and is all margin.

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>>84918192
>they put little Apu as Chad Thundercock
ourkino

>>84920249
The main bad guy kicks Spider-Man's ass.

>>84920162
The Washington monument was mostly finished after the Civil War, you ignorant faggot. Even prior to that, there is literally no documentation that slaves were involved in its construction

>>84920328
Geniunely the best version of Flash yet.

I know how /tv/ loves to complain about changes to make capeshit more contemporary but this Flash actually feels more like a real modern bully. The age of Chad Thundercock being a bully is long gone, they're usually quite nice since they don't have self-esteem issues.

>>84919553
I feel like itd be one Id be excited to see, but the camera work would be shit and Id get pissed and not even download it

>>84920359
But he wins in the end. And it's still a kid fighting the bad guys and hanging out with Iron Man and stuff. Just because he isn't stopping a world threat it doesn't mean it's not a power fantasy. All superheroes are.

>>84920249
>It's still a kid taking down the bad guys.

Spider-Man geniunely fucks more shit up in this movie than he fixes. The biggest disasters in the movie are caused by him trying to play hero.

>>84919778
>how the average white person ages

>>84919448
>while posting anime

>>84920538
And in the end he wins, and makes everything allright.

>>84918248
>twink homosexual
The problem being...?

>>84920602
Yeah that's how 90% of movies end.

>>84920651
Yeah, power fantasies about superheroes end that way, and this is one of them.
I'm not even saying it's good or bad, but you gotta be fucking stupid to say this wasn't a power fantasy film. A flawed superhero is still a superhero.

>>84920602
In the end, the villain is his own undoing.

If a kid wins a race because the opponent broke his leg, it's not like the kid won because he was actually so great.

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>>84918192
>A superhero movie that actually has the balls to not be a power fantasy and instead focuses on having human and relatable characters
>It's okay when Marvel does it!

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>>84919882
Fried dough with cinnamon / suggar coating and chocolate / dulce de leche filling. Just get it, I usualy dislike sweet foods but it's absolutely fucking delicious and responsible for one of the GOAT Chavo episodes

>>84920746
Spider-Twink's actions led to the Vulture's suit breaking down. The Vulture not realising it and trying to fly away with it doesn't mean he undid himself all on his own.

The point is that Spidey's not really in full control yet. He's a literal kid, this was the one time him interfering with anything above street thug level that it actually went somewhat right, and not in the way he'd originally planned.

>>84920602
>And in the end he wins, and makes everything allright.

But that's not even fucking true. By taking down and exposing the Vulture Spider-Man knowingly ruins the life of the girl he loves, the ending is quite bittersweet.

>>84920570
he's latino

>>84920453
That makes sense. Usually jocks will joke around with you but you know that deep down its just jokes

>>84918192
I like the idea of Superheroes doing things like that. (that's what Superman supposed to do)
But Peter literally did more harm to common people than good. The only person he helped was Tony with his toys.
Every big mess was caused by SM.
>blasted shop
>crushed ship
>crushed plane
>crushed monument and elevator
He "saved" people from his own mistakes. It's literally Snyder-tier hero.
Also he crushed a lot of property of common poor people during chasing the car.

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>>84918423
Feige said it's Marvel's take on an 80s high school John Hughes flick. Think Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club, Weird Science, and Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

I give them props for trying something different (for them).

>>84920752
back to the cu/co/ld shed you go

>>84920788
>dulce de leche
Based argie faggot

it's still a faggot jumping around in a gay costume. if you're older than 15 and care about this you should reconsider your life.

>>84920851
It's not the Vulture's suit that explodes, it's the cores he's trying to steal. If Vulture had given up instead of being determined to make off with something, he could've escaped.

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>>84918192
that is NOT a churro

>>84920910
>But Peter literally did more harm to common people than good.

I mean, that's kind of the point of the movie. It wants to show that an Amazing Spider-Man isn't made in a day.

>>84920971
I'm actually brazilian, it's a bit of a meme in my state as well, but I assumed the spanish name would be more recognizable to burger friends.

Now, here's the question: As someone who usually enjoys MCU flicks as background noise, will I like Homecoming?

>>84918192
I don't know what you mean by "human" and "relatable." The only good character was Vulture. May got zero screentime and next to 0 emotional involvement, the other students were just fodder for constant jokes, and the biggest issue of all was that Spider-Man barely developed as a character in his own movie.

Peter starts out as a young kid confident in his abilities and moral compass who is eager to take up more responsibility. Throughout the movie he fucks up multiple times, causing millions in property damage and endangering many lives, including those of his friends. By the end of the movie, it's played off that Tony was wrong the whole time and that the kid's good nature and instincts were correct the whole time. The only thing that changes is that he decides to stay "close to the ground" (even though he only makes that decision when faced with separation from his friends and family).

Compared with Raimi's Spider-Man, Homecoming fails as a character study. In Spider-Man 1 Peter goes from an ignorant kid abusing his ability for personal gain to a revenge-driven vigilante to a true hero, conflicted between his feelings for his family and friends and his "great responsibility." In Homecoming, Peter starts as an eager kid and ends as an eager kid, despite going through something which one would think would make him grow up a little.

On top of this, there was no good confrontation between Spidey and Vulture. The lack of spider-sense made all the setpieces weak, and the climax was unimpressive. The movie was, however, very funny and had an excellent villain.

>>84920868
And it's still a power fantasy about some kid taking down some big bad guys.
Again, the fact that he's not flawless and that he's not stopping a world ending threat doesn't mean it's not a power fantasy.
Man of Steel is a power fantasy and has a superhero that pretty much doesn't do anything until shit hits the fan.

>>84920971
I had ones in Spain and they were superb. they came with a chocolate drink that was used as dipping sauce.

>>84919385
Why is he walking like an ape?

>>84921085
Burgers don't even know about dulce de leche, or they'd be frying it.

>>84921081
Well, if it isn't the Man of Steel argument. Fuck off.

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>>84920960
>valid point gets made
>hahahah it's DC so you're a cuck!
Ebin argument my friend!

>>84921081
Yeah, and the only great Tony helped poor stupid useless Spiderman to become a decent competent hero. Also fat genius friend, because Peter is too stupid to do on his own.

>>84921175
Man of Steel's problem was its execution, not its premise.

>>84921093
- Peter starts as a teen convinced he's an adult and ready for the big leagues.
- Loses faith in himself after fucking up really badly and gives up superheroing.
- Chooses to return to being a hero, regaining faith in himself, giving up the girl, and realizing he's not actually an adult, yet, and he still has a lot of learning to do.

>>84920960
reddit*

>>84921125
His thong went up to far?

>>84920453
>>84920903
Can confirm, when I was in high school 10 years ago the big Chad dudes were always top lads, it was usually the little chav manlets who tried to bully people, and I say that as a manlet myself.

>>84921608
I got picked on by football players all huger and older than me in high school. They called me a faggot because I wore a red t-shirt.

>>84918192
>she bought me a churro
>clearly not a churro

>>84921672
>because I wore a red t-shirt.
Shouldn't have worn a red t-shirt then, faggot.

>>84921672
Kek

>>84921253
He never really loses faith. Nearly immediately after having the super suit taken away he goes back to action in the hoodie suit doing the exact same thing. Then, because he succeeds, Tony takes back everything he criticized Peter for earlier (despite Peter nearly causing the next 9/11 to foil the robbery). Then, he only turns down "The big leagues" because Tony wanted to make it full time, removing him completely from his life. He would have made the same decision to not join at the start of the movie if he knew it meant leaving his life, all he wanted was more "field trips" and individual missions like the one to Germany in Civil War. He was more than happy to patrol NY like a beat cop if it meant occasionally helping save the world.

>>84921840
nobody told me until it was too late

>>84918476
That's ant man

His fat friend was annoying and the token diversity casting felt like a tacked on "muh demographics" gimmick. Still, I enjoyed it. Not as good as Spidey 1 & 2 though.

>>84922033
Ant-Man would easily have been the funniest one had it not been for Marvel fucking over Edgar Wright.

The great moments when you can tell he worked on the movie makes it all the sadder.

Pure kino. The action is so exciting because of how incompetent spiderman is. He has a genuine wish to help but fucks almost everything up.

In hindsight ASM seems so goofy because garfield masters his powers almost instantly.

>>84919874
Because true kino dc cast him first in the award winning suicide squad

>what is Super
>what is Kick Ass
>what is Chronicle

fags

>>84918766

It was a solid 6/10 which for capeshit is a masterpiece.

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>>84919494
>actually believes that 6ft is not a manlet

>>84918192
>A superhero movie that actually has the balls to not be a power fantasy and instead focuses on having human and relatable characters.

Raimi did that a million times better with Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 in the early 2000s.

>>84918476
Homecoming wasn't funny though.

>>84922808
>what is Super
>what is Kick Ass
>what is Chronicle

Shit movies.

>>84920868
>knowingly ruins the life of the girl he loves, the ending is quite bittersweet.
He wasn't in love with that bitch, he just thought she was hot.

>>84923398
>Raimi did that a million times better with Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 in the early 2000s.

He had basically completely mastered being Spider-Man as soon as he gets his proper suit and montage in the first movie. Raimi showed the hardships of the double life, but Homecoming is more about the actual physical act of being Spider-Man.

>>84921253
>Loses faith in himself after fucking up really badly and gives up superheroing.
That didn't happen. Iron Man stole his suit, but he never gave up superheroing.

>>84923630
compared to shitcoming, they're st8 up kino, shithead.

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>so... that was nice

>>84923756
We see him participating in school, hanging out with Ned, making a commitment to go to the prom. Those were things he tossed aside while doing his superhero stuff.

>>84923713
Good point, but what's the correlation? Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are still better examples of a superhero movie that's not a power fantasy and instead focuses on human and relatable characters.

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>post yfw tobey maguire is cast as flashback uncle ben for spider-twink 2

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>>84918192
i liked all the brown people

>>84918248
not an argument

>>84921035
He was eating the sandwich he bought at the deli earlier. No shit it's not a churro.

>>84923845
He didn't really lose faith in himself though. There's a difference between giving up and stopping because of external forces. As soon as he realizes Vulture's big plan he grabs his shitty homemade suit and goes back it.

>>84923966
"I'm nothing without that suit!"

That's not something he'd say if he had faith in himself.

When he runs after the Vulture, he tells Ned to call Happy. He doesn't originally plan to stop the Vulture, just delay him. It's when he's finding his own strength and lifting up the rubble, when he chants "Spider-Man," that he regains faith in himself.

>>84923910
That'd... Actually be really cool

>>84924136
>tobey was born in 1975 and could very well be the father, let alone uncle, of MCU spidey

>>84923865
The point is that it's relatable in a different way, almost every other Superhero movie shows the MC pulling off their bread and butter heroics flawlessly; while Homecoming shows that even the supposedly "simple stuff" like interogation or even knowing if something is a crime or not is hard for a greenhorn. We all know the hardships of trying to master something new so this movie taps into that in a pretty novel way.

>>84924410
>I'M NOT A GIRL I'M A BOY, I MEAN, MAN.
Tom Holland's Spider-Man is endearing desu

>>84924410
It does a pretty bad job of that.

>>84918192
Watching the trailer and honestly he seemed way too excited and optimistic. I just can't relate to that.

>>84924526
That's an opinion, and your opinion is wrong.

>>84924526

how would you do it, then?

>>84918192
shill

>>84918192
Yes, but the autists would rather focus on suit CGI.

>>84919118
probably the aztec blood

>>84924568
I thought the same until I saw the movie, Holland seemed like he would be "DUDE LIKE BEING SPIDER-MAN IS SO COOL I LIKE LOVE BEING SPIDER-MAN IT'S RAD." from the bit we got in Civil War.

Thankfully this is actually not really how he is in the movie. He actually plays Spider-Man way more as a total loser trying to come off as cool, which I found pretty charming.

>>84924938

the CG-eyes are cool, gives him more character and is a nice nod to the cartoons

In one of the Spider-Man Homecoming sequels, Ned will become the Human Fly. He will use his knowledge of computers and other technology to perform various stunts to entertain people due to his due to his desire to be a superhero like Spider-Man. This is hinted at in Homecoming by the t-shirt Ned wears with a fly on it.

Ned will meet the Tinkerer as the Human Fly. The Tinkerer will know Ned is friends with Spider-Man somehow and force him into becoming Mysterio, possibly using magic involving an item that has to do with Dr. Strange or something from outerspace. If he turns into Mysterio due to magic, then Dr. Strange will likely be the hero that helps Spider-Man in the movie. The fact that Ned is Mysterio will not be known initially to Spider-Man due to the mask Mysterio wears.

The Tinkerer will operate a human sized drone suit with attached arms that makes it have eight limbs. So it will be the Octopus drone. He might attach them to one of Tony's drone suits that he salvages somewhere. The drone will have the ability to fly somehow, possibly by having spinning tips to it's limbs that can also be used as weapons or just fly like how Iron Man flies. These arms will be similar to what the Scorpion has for his stinger.

The Scorpion will have claw-like things somewhere on his arms while still being able to use his hands. He will also at some point in the movie gain wings like the Vulture had. These things will be in addition to his stinger. Insects similar to this actually exist in nature.

>>84918341
No stakes without death or rape. Thanks for the shit opinion.

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>>84919359
they're fixing that

>>84925015
This is actually one of the reasons why having Spider-Man's suit be Stark tech is kind of brilliant.

Him making master cosplay-tier suits was already kind of feeling like a stretch, but having eyes that can emote would just be next level; but by having that be something made by Tony Stark it's a little more credible. It also kind of handwaves away why he can stick to walls with gloves on, which is also why his homemade outfit has fingerless gloves.

>>84925011
Hmm okay, maybe I will pirate it sometime.

>>84925269

I just really hope Stark kinda fucks off for the next movie or so. I want Peter to try to find his way on his own and not just be a toy for TS to have in his back pocket whenever he needs to jerk himself off

>>84921085
you willst

nice twists, great villain, and an actually emotive spiderman

>>84923915

god she is so cute

>>84925382
I think that's the idea behind the ending. Tony fucks off up-state, leaving Spidey alone in NYC. He also learns to not rely on the suit Tony got him as much, and that being part of Tony's gang might not be a good idea just yet.

>>84925382
the next spider man is after infinity war

this film represents the first shift from the old guard(iron man, Cap) to the new avengers(Strange, Spiderman)

I think Tony Stark may die in Infinity War

As somebody that worships the Raimi trilogy and got buttblasted by TASM, will I enjoy this film?

>>84925627
It's firmly Marvel but better than usual, though that doesn't necessarily say much. Way better than the mess that was Amazing Spider Man though.

>>84925610

Probably because RDJ said he was done being Iron Man, right?

>>84925627

I'm the same way and I liked it, though not as much as the Raimy Trilogy

>>84919759
>average mexican
mentira tan grande me hiciste escribir en español

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>>84919646
>>84919646
They're great but after eating a shitload as a kid I got really burnt out on them

No desire to eat churros anymore.

>>84925627

homecoming is a competent movie, its good. Its just really bland, no style. Pascal made sure of that. It's scary non creatives like her and fiege have final say on things.

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>>84919759
/pol/? This is /tv/, friendo.

>>84925627
Homecoming deliberately sets out to be almost as different as possible. It's more Spider-Boy than anything.

You won't be seeing Spider-Man swinging through Downtown Manhattan even once in this movie.

>>84925873
>Spider-Boy
You mean Spider-Twink.

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>>84925449

>>84925808


it is so easy to spot a colombian shilling, good thing i'm here to expose you for posting your countrymen and pretending they are mexican.

>>84918192
>talks with the mask on all the time
>has to take it off while calling

what did he mean by this

>>84925989
He was eating a sandwich, anon.

>>84925954

wow you picked the most unflattering picture of zendya from the movie to make a point! I get it, you're racist!

>>84925989
Anon it's time to use your brain for once.

>>84925989
He's eating something

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>>84926037
I'm a lookist, and she looks like shit.

>>84925989
He's eating a sandwich, sperglord

>>84926166
What an ape!

>>84924809
better

>>84923368
It isn't, you smelly pajeet

>>84925710
you probably live in Chihuahua then

>>84926909

and how would you do that?

you just like to shit on things without offering any recourse, typical fucking idiot

>>84920788
Speak english you fucking troglodyte

>>84919553
not even gay, but i would pay for that too.

but only if in costume, and in character the whole time.