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The BBC has teamed up with Netflix to make a series about the history of Troy, and is supposed to be one of the more expensives series, at least of the year, with a total budged of a £50million and £6million-an-episode series.
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/786692/bbc-netflix-troy-fall-of-a-city-cast-release-date-filming

CAST
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5103758/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
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Jfc
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Time to cancel NF, I guess.
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The movie is underrated
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>>84898855
greeks are black now?
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>>84898939

The movie is a ten year war set over a couple of weeks.

Patrokles and Achilles are heterofied.

It's good action, but a bad "historical" movie.

Much the same as Rome.
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>>84898974
man fuck you every significant moment in history involved black people, every fucking historical epic from greece to egypt to vikings sailing westward has been white washed from fear of knowing that these proud people were BLACK, fact of the matter is that white people have only existed for less than 100 years and have since been dismantling the greatness created by the black man. thank god the big nosed ones are coming up now and correcting history through media
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AYO HOL DA FUK UP
SO U BE SAYIN
WE WUZNT JUS KANGZ?
WE WUZ GREEK GODZ N SHIEETTT??
SHIEEEETTT BROTHA
WE BE SLAYIN WID SWORDZ N SHIEET?
WE BE SLAPPIN DAT ATHENA ASS N SHIETT
DAS RITE
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>>84898937
I'm seeing you pussies are say this every week now, if you hate black people so much why dont you go join the KKK instead of acting like a whiny child
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why do they gotta do us like this man.
why they be re-writing history like this.
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>>84899073
Nah, niqqa, we wuz ERRYTHANG!
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>>84899079
ook eek ooooook *flings poop*
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>>84899063
WE
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>>84899079
KKK is more FBI informants than racists now.
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>>84899063
so u be sayin GOD is BLACK?
JESUS is BLACK?
SHIEEETTTT
WE BE TURNING OUR BLOOD TO WIN N SHIETT
WE BE GIVIN THE BBC TO MARY? SHIEETTT
WE BE KEKING JOSEF N SHIETTT
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>Paris is white
>Achilles is black
>white man killing a nigger who is chimping out and going around attacking people
.
I don't see the problem.
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>>84899061
Didn't Achilles join the war in the last year? They could've easily had it so that the war had raged on for 9 years, then Achilles shows up as appropriate. Why didn't they?
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>>84899079
You have no idea who you're talking to nigger. I'm actually a member of a group called the alt-right and I'm a well known poster and content creator on /pol/.
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>>84899252

By memory, yes.

Why?

Laziness I guess.
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>>84899079
Why would I join the kkk when I can just not pay for Netflix? I don't want to join the kkk and I don't want to pay for political propaganda. Netflix used to be pretty sweet though. Then Soros bought it.
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>>84899295
My guess is that they wanted that action scene on the beach with Brad Pitt leading the charge.
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>>84898855

HOL UP NIGGA AIN'T NO HOMEY GUNNA GRIP ME BY THE ANKLE AND DIP ME IN GRAPE DRANK. AIN'T NO GRIP IT AND DIP IT HERE

YNOWIMSAYIN
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>>84898974
Yes cracka.
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>>84899061
It's based off of the Iliad, which only details the last month of the war.
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>>84898855
>The BBC has teamed up with netflix

This whole Big Black Cock meme has gone too far
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>>84899389

Except it starts with the abduction of Helen.
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>>84899444
Barely. After it lists the different factions of Greeks and Trojans it fast forwards to the end of the war.
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>>84899444
That's just backstory so the audience knows why they are fighting.
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>>84899061
>Patrokles and Achilles are heterofied.
>Brotherhood is now gay
kill yourself faggot
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What the actual fuck, the negro casting meme has gone way to far
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>Hector confused Patroclus for Achillies because all blacks look the same to him
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>tfw Tarsem Singh will never direct a Troy miniseries
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>>84898855
if you've had enough of cultural appropriation in the media then simply don't watch it and movie on.
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>>84898855
This is being specifically done as a western Illuminati psy-op.

Their theory is that if they purposely miscast enough "Historical Dramas" young white men, who are number one enemy to a global world order, will think that blacks have ALWAYS been involved in world history, and not just living in huts eating each other and bashing babies on the ground, to eliminate resistance to their worldwide migration plans, where they move the poorest people on the planet into western countries to boost their "economies"(at the expense of white taxpayers, never their own)
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i will not hesitate to bring the mods in here if you cant keep this conversation civil. Ive already flagged a few questionable posts. We;re all adults here so lets act like it. no racism
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>>84899755
shut up faglord
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>>84899755
my dad works for the internet so enjoy ur ban
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>>84899755
Where do you think you are?
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>>84899755
>4chan
>No racism

Go fuck yourself kike
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I'm genuinely curious what the next nigger history revision is going to be. I feel like doing this in a movie would be too much even for liberals right now so it would be another TV show. I can see them doing an early american series with george washington and a bunch of other high profile americans being niggers. It really is pretty pathetic niggers lack culture so much that entertainment has to turn whites into blacks to make tv shows for them
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>>84899755

Net neutrality failed. I paid $5 extra for the casual racism package from my ISP. Sorry you can't do anything.
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>>84899755
You have to go back
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>>84899755
Now that's what I call bait
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>>84899755
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>>84898855
I'm not gonna watch this if Paris is not black and there's not a single scene when he fucks Helena (she needs to be white). Also Achilles needs to be black and Briseis white, and there needs to be a scene when he fucks her.

I hope Netflix and BBC will deliver...
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They did it with Romeo and Juliet already.
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>>84898855
WE
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>>84898855
kill all kikes, brits and niggers, this is a step too far
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>>84898855
>history of troy
>niggers
wat?
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>>84899755
why so nigger jew?
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>>84898855
Starring Idris Elba as Troy
and Lupita N'yongo as Helen
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we need another Hitler but instead of having his hate of jews he has to hate niggers instead
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>>84902207
He did hate niggers you ninny
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>>84902260
WTF?! I love Hitler now!
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A black person shouldn't be Achilles.
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>>84902353
i like you anon
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>>84899079
If you love black people so much why don't you go to Africa?
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/pol/gets triggered more than the sjws at this point. it's hilarious
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I personally identify with a bunch of ancient Macedonian mountain niggers and I don't want any modern niggers playing them, it breaks my immersion, what's the point of even doing that...

It's a 4000 year old play, it just works!!
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>>84899073
hey uhm just wait a second (AYO HOL DA FUK UP)
are you implying (SO U BE SAYIN)
we weren't just kings? (WE WUZNT JUS KANGZ?)
we were greek gods and stuff? (WE WUZ GREEK GODZ N SHIEETTT??)
gosh darn it brother (SHIEEEETTT BROTHA)
we were using swords and stuff? (WE BE SLAYIN WID SWORDZ N SHIEET?)
we were touching athena's bottom and stuff? (WE BE SLAPPIN DAT ATHENA ASS N SHIETT)
that's right (DAS RITE)
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>>84899444

No, it doesn't. It begins with Achilles and Agamemnon falling out. Apollos priest took back his daughter Agamemnon had stolen, so Agamemnon takes Achilles prize in response. Achilles then goes and sulks.
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Niggers are the worst thing to happen to planet Earth.
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>complain about whitewashing
>but nobody complains when shitsmearing happens

kek
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>>84900492
this show had the lowest rating for any show that debuted this year. What a coincidence.
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>>84899256
nice cuck mark. 2012 still makes you a newfag
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>>84898855
what the fuck, we wuz greeeks and shit now ?
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>NiggerAchilles is gonna black Briseis
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>nigger achilles is gonna black briseis
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As a Greek I am fucking mad as hell ,we will never get an actually faithful to the Iliad tv series with a respectable budget.
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we wuz

white?

the fuck nigga?
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We wuz everythang
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>>84899755
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>>84898974
we wuz pederastists
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>>84898855
BBC is taking their initials quite literally I see. Cant wait to not watch it
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>>84900492
That actually works though, they're from families that hate each other, it works as a racial metaphor if you're looking for one
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>>84898855
WE WUZ GREEKS N SHIT

I hope Big Black Cock will get angry mails from Greece
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>>84898974
the rebut to these claims is hilarious because it's rage inducing to black supremacists.

tell them that whites and asians evolved from black people. makes em seethe.
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>>84905584
Isn't Troy in Turkey though
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>>84899526
Not him, but I bet you think Alexander and Hephaestion weren't gay too.
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>>84898939
brad was pure warrior kino in this movie
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>>84905600
yes but the people who lived there were no turks or nigger

and Achilles was a greek
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>>84898937
>being subscribed to Netflix

Cuckold
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>>84898939
Diane Kruger is a goddess
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>>84899344
>Xia and Shang
>Pic is of a soldier from the terracotta army

Shit was over a thousand years after the Shang. It's like if you used a viking to represent modern norway.
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>Notice the nigger placing in movies and tv shows which should have white people in them
>drop the show/ movie
>show/ movie comes up in discussion
>everyone else fucking hates it
>nobody really says why
>soke loose cunt finally cuts the tension and says its because there are too many niggers in it
>he used the cunt and nigger in kne sentance cassually
>the group now knows they can be casually racist with one another and begins the nigger hate rant.
Everytime
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>>84905262
>shitsmearing
kek
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das rite, us blacks wuz everythang muhfugga
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>>84905600
turkey has only been controlled by shitskin subhumans for 500 years
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>>84903437
because there are people who give a shit about history (especially when you are a Greek)
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>>84905636
>yes but the people who lived there were no turks or nigger
>no turks
Yes they were. Learn your history retard.
Turkic people are a geo-political term for Europeans who migrated towards the east and settled all over Asia mingling with either Mongols and Chinese to the far east, Indians and Indo-Persians to the south, Persians and Arabs in the Middle East, Slavs along the Urals, and the mixed region around Caucasus.
Finns are the first Turkic tribe to come back to Europe after the migration.
Hungarians were the 2nd one coming from Western Gokturk tribes and they Christianized.
Ottomans are Turkic people who inhabited eastern Anatolia and thereabout for a long time. Those are what you refer to as the Turks, another Turkic tribe.
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>>84905481
Greece never produced a tv series based on one of the most famous epics of European history?
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>>84905714
>ancient Anatolians were Turks
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>>84905730
Most Greek tv series are just shitty dramas or comedies. Barely any actual historical stuff
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>>84905743
Ancient Anatolians were a mix of Semite, Greek, Turkic, Persian, and other groups that all traded and mingled in the region you retard.
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>>84905714
>turkic peoples
>literally admit they mingled with asiatic peoples and arabs
>european
W.E.W
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>>84903437
My favorite meme
>/POL/ IS WORSE THAN SJWS btw. im not SJW i dont like them too ;)
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>>84905759
>ancient anatolians were Turkic
WEW LAD
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>>84905714
turks came from Siberian
the inder euroeapns Hethiter lived before the turls in Anatolia

idiot
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>>84905262
thiz
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>>84905774
Yes, if you know what the term Turkic means, when it came to be, and the history of term, as well as the trade history and settling history of Anatolia, you will know this as a fact.
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>>84905792
go to bed mehmet
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>>84905792
>The first known mention of the term Turk (Old Turkic: ???? Türük[33][34][35] or ????:??? Kök Türük[33][34] Chinese: 突厥, Old Tibetan: duruggu/durgu (meaning "origin"),[36][37] Pinyin: Tūjué, Middle Chinese (Guangyun): [tʰuot-küot]) applied to a Turkic group was in reference to the Göktürks in the 6th century. A letter by Ishbara Qaghan to Emperor Wen of Sui in 585 described him as "the Great Turk Khan."[38] The Orhun inscriptions (735 CE) use the terms Turk and Turuk.
we're reaching a new level of WEWUZery
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>>84905714
turks came 1071 to Anatolia
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>>84905792
sounds like it means whatever you want it to, mehmet
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>>84898855
no

no

no

no
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>>84905759

Not during that timeline the Iliad is set.

Trojans are in fact Hittites, an indo-european people.
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>>84898855
anglo genocide when?
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>>84905856

Such a degenerate and decadent people.

Truly disgusting, they have less respect for European heritage than Americans at this point.
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>>84898939
Sean Bean Odyssey fucking WHEN
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>>84898855

This is silly now.

Its getting to the point that people are claiming that whites have no home or culture. It seems like a concerted effort
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>>84905895
You mean idris elba odissey.
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>>84899344
>>84899344
we wuz shangs n shiet
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>>84905714
>>84905759
>>84905792
>tfw to smart too actually study histery
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>>84898855
two niggers can be ancients hero greeks but we can't have whites in Wakanda
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>>84905714
>american education the post
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>>84898937
I just did. Seed while we still can.
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>>84905600
You just reminded me we have to remove kebab from Byzance. Make the Empire Great Again!
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>>84905708
>complaining about a shitty tv adaptation because you care about history so much
It's only racial inaccuracies that trigger the board so much, and only changing characters thought as white to black. What race were the Trojans? Prolly swarthy Turkish kebabs. Cast a bunch of blue-eyed blond-haired actors and no one will care about historical accuracy then. At least be honest and just admit you hate niggers. We all do.
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>>84906152
>It's only racial inaccuracies that trigger the board so much
they wouldn't have to be so triggered if there wasn't a de-facto wanted poster for white people today
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>>84906152
read 1984
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>random black casting

Why not adapt African myth and legend? Is it really inclusive to change other cultures myths and legends to include a black character, or patronizing? Is it in fact a sort of social pat on the head?

Maybe, thats too hard? It would require research and effort?

Why not make something original, like Earthsea? And lets not forget that when the SciFi channel adapted that they gave it an all white cast.
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>>84906212
BLM people say the exact same thing about black people. Does this cause your coconut to cogitate any? Probably not.

>>84906214
I've read it along with a lot of George Orwell's essays. It's a shitty adaptation, not historical revisionism. The history books are there telling you the facts about the Greeks and the Trojans. But you don't know/care about those facts. You want a depiction of the Trojan War that's inaccurate but not in the ways that trigger you.
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>>84906243
>BLM
they're a terrorist group
they can die in hell for any half-educated person cares
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Greeks and specifically Spartans were blond haired and blue eyes
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>>84898937

Netflix executives have actively made it their mission to push progressive ideals, and since Soros joined they've even gotten into some pretty fucking insane far left/islamist stuff like Point & Shoot, The White Helmets and Winter On Fire (which I'll let slide because it's also hilarious Nazi propaganda).
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I hate niggers. Anyone else hate niggers? I really, really hate niggers. I can't tell you how much I hate seeing niggers in anything, and the trouble is they're everyone. Jews and SJW keep putting them where they don't belong and I have to look at them and I hate them. It makes me sick. I just want to live in a world in which niggers don't exist. I'm sick and tired of niggers everywhere in everything. Nappy haired, flat nosed, cotton picking niggers.
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>>84906218

Because producers think that audiences are blithering idiots.

The bbc has this casting policy because they have a diversity quota enforced like all British channels. Now it's less glaring when you are doing modern day or sci-fi settings, like in Black Mirror. But when you do it in historical settings it's just downright laughable.

The irony is, the Trojan war DOES have a black character in it! An Ethiopian king called Memnon that helped the Trojans in the story, if they wanted diversity they could have given him a more prominent role in the story.
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>>84899755

>Having to act civil when the BBC and Netflix deliberately provoke controversial debate

Um, no sweetie, you need to learn to DEAL.
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>>84898855
>Leave /pol/ for couple of minutes because I want to discuss tv and movies for a while
>remember that /tv/ is one of our colonies now
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>>84899689

It works. See the Egypt Wuz Black meme, which is basically held as common fact by most people now.

Same with "Islamic Science". I've unironically heard people say that Islam invented math and zeroes.

You also had the latest Spider-Man where he bizarrely states that slaves built the Washington Monument. Why?
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>>84906302
You would have greater diversity by adapting other diverse cultures myths and legends and bringing them to a wider audience
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>>84906243
yes today this is possible but what is in the future?

This is already a big red flag that they put "diversity" over historical facts
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>>84899079
The KKK has been compromised. We're building something new here, porch monkey.
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>>84906218

Because there are basically no good African myths and they have next to no culture. We ran into the same problem in Australia with Aboriginals. There's just not much there.

I've seen some decent Nigerian films based on their myths, but it's not "expansive". It's like interpersonal stuff about witches and weak willed husbands and the like. They don't have these great big Epic Dramas, because they don't have an Epic history to draw from.

Will Smith was trying to get one made about the Nubian Egyptians, but since there isn't much recorded history there or myths, people don't really have an interest in it.
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>>84906324

Like it would matter. The industry itself is committed to making political statements.

You can't NOT discuss politics because the industry and the output is wholly concerned with it.
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>>84906351
I can't imagine you were making the same complaint when John Wayne as a Roman Centurion speaking with his American accent declared Jesus Christ the son of God.
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>>84906370
there are plenty of good Aboriginal myths and legends, look up their stories about Port Philip Bay for example

The Nubian dynasty occurring to the end of the Egyptian empire is well documented.
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>>84900492
This is a good example of when blackwashing is fine. The Montagues and Capulets are fictional characters, their race isn't mentioned, and one family being black is a good way to visually highlight the difference between them.
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>>84906395
it's not like Romans were completely non-white
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>>84906297
Hahaha ebin post m8, racists btfo haha
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>>84906396
The Nubian dynasty basically destroyed Egypt's ancient empire and any chance of recovering it, you dumb nigger.
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>>84900492
Orson Welles did an all black McBeth you cant complain
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>>84906424
I like how niggers are trying to paint Romans as "non-white" first, and then appropriate them to their nigger culture.
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>>84906396

There are zero good Aboriginal myths. Their crude and cringe worthy in their simplicity.

>The Nubian Dynasty is well documented

It's not (nothing was until the end of the late period). It also didn't occur at the end of the Egyptian empire, it occurred in the middle.
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>>84899340
>aint no grip it and dip it

underrated
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>>84906431

Not really. It still ran solidly under the wogs.
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>>84906429
I don't want to BTFO racists. I want to BTFO disingenuous hypocrites who can't admit their motive for disliking blackwashing is quite literally just because they hate niggers. Hiding behind arguments that it's an affront to history is a fuckng cowardly lie. Just admit you hate niggers. You're on 4chan. It's ok.
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>>84906461
>It also didn't occur at the end of the Egyptian empire, it occurred in the middle.
It was the second last dynasty.
There was one more after that, and then the Persians invaded. Then Alexander, then Ptolomy took charge when he died. Then the Romans. Then Byzantine. Then Muslims. Then England.
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>>84899930
What you just described is exactly Hamilton, and they rap too.
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>>84906395

John Wayne is European.

Romans are Europeans.

...Now...John Wayne as Ghengis Khan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kpv1kqjvpw
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>>84906477
"Solidly" as pissing the Assyrians so much that Egypt got conquered for the first time in its history? (Aside from the Nubian conquest itself). So badly conquered that they never again managed to install a native dynasty to the throne. The Nubians were a joke and they completely ruined Egypt, just like your typical niggers with anything they can get their hands on. It runs in their blood.
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>>84906515
Trojans are human beings.

Niggers are human beings (kind of).

Problem solved?
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>>84906515
Despite the stature of the cast and a respectable box office performance, the film was a critical flop; it is often ranked as one of the worst films of the 1950s and one of the worst ever.[4]
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>>84905851
>indo-european people
In other words Turks.
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>>84906490

I dislike it because it's fucking stupid AND because it's specifically designed to be controversial/antagonistic.

Sometimes it can work when you cross racial or gender borders - But have you noticed we're only allowed to go one way now? Just check out the retarded whining about the Fiennes bro as Michael Jackson.

Mostly I have a problem with the BBC and their stupid Race and Gender Quotas getting concentrated on while their output goes to utter shit.

I mean, that's the issue - the casting is specifically designed to cause debate and off screen drama, then people want to act indignant when people complain about it.

For whatever reason this conversation has now reminded me of the extreme pain caused to my autism by the Fincer Dragon Tattoo adaptation.
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>>84906549

turks are not indo-european

They speak an asiatic turkic language, as for their genetics, it's a mess.
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>>84906532

No.

That's like asking me to jack off to gay porn because "we is all humans and shit".

Or take Leonardo DiCaprio seriously as a South Boston tough guy.

Shitty inauthentic stunt casting ruins movies.

Which reminds of that HHhH trailer - Everyone is using German or Czech accents...Except the main Nazi character who is using an Australian accent.

WHY.
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>>84906297
>>84906297
rejecting the propaganda is the first step

if you have a talent in writing than you can try to write your own stories (based on Eurpoean history for example) and than dont sell the rights to jews

I think it is time for people to start their own counter culture. Whine on this board isnt enough
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>>84906546

It's really bad. Not even comically bad. Just really boring and stupid.

John Wayne is too dull to be comically bad, but when he does actually speak it's cringe inducing.
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how long until they make a movie about the British empire being all niggers
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>>84898855
Fucking christ this is insane. Liberals want to complain about white-washing, fine, I don't agree with it either. But don't fucking tell me to shut up about black-washing or spic-washing or any kind of minority-washing when they pull this kind of shit.

This is shitting in the face of European history, shitting in the face of my ancestors. Fuck these people.
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>>84906461
Those little 5 minute animated Dreamtime stories they used to show on the ABC were top tier comfy, but they weren't exactly deep
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>>84899389
>last month
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>>84906558
You're responding to the BBC's deliberate mud raking by raking the mud. CRAZY. I agree with you, though, but the BBC's shitty decisions will only inflict harm on themselves. I used to watch panel shows on occasion (no bully), I don't watch any anymore because they're intolerable shitfests of women and foreigners. I barely watch anything on the BBC, in fact. Ideally they'll die the slow and miserable death they deserve, and this botched attempt to cash-in on the historical-fantasy Game of Thrones-like element of the Illiad, since that's what I expect this will be, will end in total disaster for them. I won't be watching it.
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>>84906584
>turks are not indo-european
Yes they are. The ones who went and mingled with Indians are Indo-European.
>as for their genetics, it's a mess.
It's not a mess, it's branched by location.
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>>84906549
their origin is Siberia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples#Origins_and_early_expansion
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>>84905714
they came almost B.C. to anatolia, troysn people in that age where related to the greeks, similar wat the japanese are related to the chinese today
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>>84906648
>their origin is Siberia
Before moving to Siberia, they were European.
Also not all moved to Siberia.
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stop replying to the 'trojans were turks' poster you fucking retards its bait
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>>84906650
Trojan people were related to everyone.
They are a mixed bag in the center of trade.
Literally every people from East to West to North Africa to South Asia moved and traded through Anatolia, with some settling there.
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>>84906639

>You're responding to the BBC's deliberate mud raking by raking the mud.

Sure. I can't help but take the b8 a lot of the time. It's like I ignored it for years, but they just keep prodding.
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>>84906490
I don't see why it can't be both. I don't see why people can't get annoyed at diversity casting, and also get annoyed at their cultural erasure
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>>84906655
>Before moving to Siberia, they were European.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people

nice meme Achmad
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>>84898855
Γαμώ τη μαλαkία τους μέσα. Δεν φτάνει που είχαμε το "γουί γοούς ετζύπτιανς" έχουμε τώρα το "οι έλληνες ήταν μαύροι". Γαμώ του που πήγαν kαι τους βρήkαν τους παλιοπιθήkους.
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>>84906683
The genetic affiliation you posted doesn't relate to the historical origin before Central Asia was settled.
You talk shit about Siberia yet nobody has ever actually settled Siberia but merely treated is as a transition point since it's not livable there.
Your retardation is sky-high.
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>>84906438
WE WUZ BRAVEHEART N SHIEET
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>>84906714
i told you that they came from Siberia and their DNA is different from Europeans. You are the fucking retard

https://www.quora.com/Do-Turkish-people-have-more-Mongolian-Kurdish-Greek-Armenian-or-Bulgarian-DNA/answer/Burcu-Adan%C4%B1r
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Ever notice how they don't allow comments on websites anymore? Guess they don't want people to have honest discussions where they can remain anonymous,
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>>84906714
your WE WUZ EUROPEANS N SHIT is ridiculous
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>>84906681
People who've surrendered their culture to globalization and capitalism to be swaddled by technology and soft clothes complaining that the very technology they surrendered themselves to, shitty jew-produced media tv shows, etc, aren't representing the world how they want it to be represented - with them on top - because the internationalists are interested in pursuing different marketing strategies is so pathetic it makes me sick. Niggers on TV is the price you pay for TV. You shouldn't be watching shit shows to begin with, since their very essence is the erasure of your culture.
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>>84906732
>i keep telling you about a phase in history but ignore the origins before that phase of settlement
You are going to talk about how Siberia is the origin of Humanity next right?
Are you literally retarded?
You don't know shit about mapping genetics do you? You only know how to post articles you yourself don't understand.
Before Siberia and Central Asia was ever reached by Turkic people, they had a past before that.
That past stretches from Europe to India.
The term Turk itself is a meme because it tries to rationalize a complex mingling and migration route of many people including Europeans who migrated back and forth over time never settling in one place truly.
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>>84906619
>spic-washing

Name 1 film
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>>84906762
Your
>Siberia was always settled
is truly retarded.
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>>84898939
>greeks depicted as scandis

yeah of course
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>>84906791
Spiderman Homecoming
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>>84906639
Not all their recent output has been bad though. Wolf Hall, Last Kingdom and Poldark are entirely free from this shit.
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>>84899755
Man, this wasn't even subtle bait at all and it managed to TRIGGER people.
The fucking state of this site.
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>>84906775
eh, I agree to an extent. I think too many people in general, not just white people, are too deracinated from their ancient cultures and peoples too care.
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Greeks were neither Snowniggers nor Niggers.
Ancient Greeks were tan to bronze skinned with brown/black hair, mixed eyes, and some blonde mix due to Dorian mingling from up north.
They were a mixed pot between Semite (pic related are all Semitic group) people and south-eastern Europeans with also Persians due to war rapewagons.
If you want to genetically portray Greeks, Romans before Barbarian rape, you do so by using today's Meds and Caucasian people as a standard.
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>>84906811
A lead is hispanic? Also, who the actual fuck cares about Spiderman? How can a superhero flick be revisionist?
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>>84906815
So you happily consume media that affirms you in the way you want to be affirmed, then complain about media that doesn't. All you are is a consumer, one in a larger demographic they think of when they think of these shows. You've already surrendered your culture if you've allowed it to be turned into a simulated experience you sit and watch. Culture isn't something depicted on a television screen. It's something that's lived. What culture are you living when you watch TV? Jewified, nigrified American mulatto culture.
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I mean they're not real and it's Greek mythology but I'd understand if Greeks got mad.
Imagine a Greek name applied to a black dude kek.
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>>84906859
Flash you dumbass
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>>84906888
>I'm a dumbass for not keeping up with Marvel flicks

Woopty fucking doo your gotta go fast superhero is Mexican. This is an affront to you how, exactly?
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>>84906887
>Imagine a Greek name applied to a black dude kek.
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>>84906833
they may indeed be, but here's the real ball-breaker: non-whites are ALLOWED to be proud and identify with their ancient culture and peoples if they want, whereas whites are not
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>>84906887
Tyronicus Niggacetes.
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>>84906906
this guy is the next Kobe, mark my words
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>>84906899
>moving the goalpost
A single Marvel flick can be more watched than your favourite movies.
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>>84906930
How did I move the goalposts? Is english your second language or something?
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>>84906907
But that's because, contrary to popular belief, "white" isn't a culture.
I've never had anyone tell me that I'm not allowed to be proud of my Scottish and Irish heritage and that I shouldn't celebrate it.
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>>84906784
You are going to talk about how Siberia is the origin of Humanity next right?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/
the oldest bones where found in Bulgiaria

i told you they came in the 11. Century to Anatolia, long after the fall of Troy

And siberia: you do realize that there are many non-European people their right?
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>>84898939
Great movie, maybe not true to the story but its a good film adoptation. Also, a Sean Bean Odyssey would be 10/10, to bad that wont happen.

To the topic, if you want to watch good BBC show about ancient times, just watch I, Claudius.
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AYO HOL UP

U SAYIN WE WUZ GREEKZ N SHIET ??
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>>84899063
Hol'up, yo b sain dat da black scyntist dat maid white ppl did so les dan 100 years ago?
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>>84906907

>Watching an academic round table on 4chan

>They laugh uproriously when one of the writers mentions that it's not uncommon to see young men on 4chan claim they are related to Romans and Vikings

>This is actually technically true

...And you know not one of them would question a black person claiming to be a Kang, despite it being objectively untrue.
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>>84906490
>it's an affront to history

Historian here. Rewriting history is always hugely problematic, and shit like this is basically just doing it for a cheap ratings/pr boost while being able to score brownie points. Don't pretend like they are trying to make the world a better place, these are huge companies exploiting current trends to make a bigger profit, all while mistreating the reality of our ancestors.
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>>84906943
>wants an example of one film with spicwashing
>gets an answer
>LOL WHO CARES ABOUT THAT FILM
and the worst part is you're refering to fucking Spiderman of all things
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>>84906956
OK guys shut it down a real "historian" showed up
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>>84899444
t. never read the illiad
it starts with Achilles trying to get revenge for Patroklus' death
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>>84906944

>"white" isn't a culture

But "black" is?

>I've never had anyone tell me that I'm not allowed to be proud of my Scottish and Irish heritage and that I shouldn't celebrate it.

Because they can technically pass for oppressed people. At least in my country it's sort of acceptable to celebrate Celtic ancestry, but English ancestry is completely off limits (and they are often lumped together as British or, indeed, "white", culture)
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>>84906399
Actually it's good because it has white male - black female romances.

And yes, racemixing is good if you're a white male. The less shitskins have children, the better
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>>84906956
I did a DNA test that showed my ancestors have been on the island of Britain for at least 5,000 years. I'm pretty sure they weren't at the Battle of Troy. In your HISTORICALLY VERIFIED HISTORIAN opinion it's ok for me to not give a fuck?
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>>84906955
sauce? Was this in relation to Angela Nagles new book?
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>>84906955

I'm descended from Charlemagne, just like about 12.5% or something of western euros. I can legitimately claim my ancestors were kangz n sheeit, cuz they were the kings of england and france.

The best those african nationalist can claim is lineage to some unrecorded african 'king' who maybe ruled a tribe of a few towns in most cases.
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>>84906968
It can't really be revisionist if it's as inconsequential as a fucking superhero you goddamn mongoloid. Again, who's history is being rewritten here? YOU brought up Spiderman
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>>84906956
Yeah but this kind of retarded thinking and this catering to the vocal minority is never a successful business move yet they double down on it. At this point it is pretty obviously for political purposes and not a cash grab.
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Why don't they cover a time and place where black people were actually in power? There are plenty of African Kangs they can cover throughout history. But why don't they want to do this? Is it because they enslaved other African people???? Can't have that become to popular of a concept; that blacks enslaved other blacks, and are no different than the white colonists that came later except for the fact they can't into technology advancement and civilized society.
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>>84907004

Yah. It's an okay discussion, but most of it isn't focused on 4chan and they divert to random subjects.

There is a fair amount of ignorance, hypocrisy, but there's also one guy who clearly understands 4chan and is like;

>You should try ignoring them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hC_CenCnbo
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>>84906973

So not a single counter argument?

>>84907003

What does any of that have to do with my points?
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>>84907008
>superhero movies are inconsequential
>literally the most profitable movies in existance
stop trying to fit in
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>>84906945
>the oldest bones where found in Bulgiaria
So? Oldest bones keep shifting between a few places constantly. Origin is still unknown.
The only fact known is that
a. Europe had an Ice Age which pulled European people down into the Meds, settling North Africa and the Meds and Middle East to survive.
b. Siberia is too fucked up even today for a whole people to survive and is a transition point.
c. Turkic people aren't a people, but a meme term for a mix of Europeans, Indians, and Middle-Easterners constantly traveling, settling, and mingling in Central Asia and its border points with Europeans, Indians, Middle Easterners, and East Asians (including Mongols).

You don't know the origin of Turkic people.
That's the only fact we know here. Because Turkic people is a geo-political term and not an ethnicity.
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>>84907008

>Again, who's history is being rewritten here?

Technically American-Jewish history, so we shouldn't really care.
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>>84899073

DAS RITE
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>>84907016
Because white people dont want to watch movies about niggers.
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>>84898855

*smacks lips*
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>>84907035
I'm not arguing against you m8 but surely if you're so smart you can see that opening your argument with "Historian here" on 4chan of all fucking places is a bit goofy yeah?
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MOVIE WHEN?
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>>84907016

>WE WUZ EGYPTIANS

...So you wuz sayin you wuz slave masters and sheeeeit?
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>>84907035
>mistreating the reality of our ancestors.

To be honest, I have a book by George MacDonald Fraser about Hollywood and Hisory, its depiction throughout the ages. You should check it out. Things have NEVER been depicted accurately. George MacDonald Fraser was a HISTORIAN too, as well as a cinephile, and he gives tremendous insight into the practice. You just seem like a dipshit.
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When are they going to make a movie about the Hyperwar? The Trojan War was just a small part of it.
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is there a single event in history worth recreating where theres really black people as protagonists?
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>>84907027
I think even she said this was one of the best reviews of the book.
http://thermidormag.com/angela-nagles-wild-ride/

Can't wait till Kantbot does some more stuff
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>>84900492
>white male + black female

that's not how it works, white boi

no wonder it flopped
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>>84907057
Is that real ?
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Can you racist name 5 african countries? That's what I thought. baka fäm
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>>84907038
There's absolutely fuck all that's historical about capeshit. It makes no difference if the superheroes are black, white or fucking klingon. Sure, a lot of people watch them, but there's NOTHING at stake. If they rebooted Fast & Furious and made Paul Walker an Asian guy would you honestly be pissed about that? Is the fucking FLASH such an important figure to you that's he analogous with your fucking identity? I really just don't get what you're on about here m8
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>>84907067
If the most important thing your people did in the history of the world was pick cotton for other people, you'd be trying to steal other peoples history too,
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>>84906979
No, black isn't a culture either.
Every black person in the world doesn't subscribe to the exact same cultures as one another or do as the stereotypical African Americans do, which are ideas perpetuated by American media.
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>>84907128
Notice how nobody cares about asian-washing, latino-washing, even Middle-Eastern-washing.
Only nigger-washing.
Because niggers are the worst race on this planet and the fact that every city where their populace goes above a certain line gets destroyed proves it.
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>>84907039
>So? Oldest bones keep shifting between a few places constantly. Origin is still unknown.

the oldest bones that were found yet

and people consider the Göktürks and the Xiongnu as the forefathers of the modern turks. Both groups come from Asia
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>>84906791

Badass starring Danny Trejo.

They took the video of Tom "I Am A Motherfucker" Slick punching some nigger so hard he had to call the amber lamps and made it about an old spic beating up skinheads.
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>>84907051

Yeah I know but shit like this pisses off most in the field.

>>84907065

I know this. But there are cases where an honest attempt is made at accuracy and fails, then there is outright rewriting for purely political or financial means. Nothing will ever be perfect but I think this is a case where intent is what matters.
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>>84907175
>purely political or financial means
EVERY TV SHOW OR MOVIE EVER PRODUCED WAS FOR FINANCIAL MEANS.
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>>84907100

Yes

http://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=psi_sigma_siren
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>>84898855

This is fucking crazy. Insane. Absolutely insane.

Dude, I'm black, and even I think this is complete bullshit. This is just straight up blackwashing. Putting black people as random mooks or civilians in a old white society is one thing, but turning people who were DEFINITELY not black, into black dudes is just straight up propaganda-tier blackwashing.

I get it, they want more black people in the media in something that isn't based in the ghetto or whatever, and that's fine. But don't fucking sit here and just put black people in the role of someone that's historically known to be white(or at least non-black). That's lazy and that's creatively bankrupt. I would legit never watch anything like this, because if you're lazy enough to replace white people with blacks, then I question if you're even able to make a good series.

>>84905903

That's why I'm calling this shit propaganda. It's trying to put shit into people's minds that whites were never the true rulers of ancient civilizations.
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>>84907118
Niger, Congo, Somalia, Sudan, Uganda

Not that hard, but can you name 5 that aren't absolute shit holes...i can't.
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>>84907128
>There's absolutely fuck all that's historical about capeshit.
except being the most watched movies in existance? They're retarded movies but they've left a mark in history for that simple reason. I bet you also believe Call of Duty isn't important in the video game industry just because it's a mindless FPS even though it's the most successful modern video game franchise.
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>>84907200
>EVERY TV SHOW OR MOVIE EVER PRODUCED WAS FOR FINANCIAL MEANS.

pure pleb
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>>84907165
Gokturks have their own origin, you also forget the Central Asians who are an extremely mixed bag between Europe, Middle East, and Mongol rape. Turks have no known forefathers.
The one thing that is common among all Turkic people is that they have black/brown hair, varied eyes, and skin that varies from bronze to pale white. The more Eastern ones have slanty eyes, the more central ones are varied in eye-shape, the more western ones have European eye-shape. The eye colors vary.
As you can see, there is no set rule about Turkic people. It is a term that's geo-political.
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>>84907232
Except Kennath Anger. No one knows why he made movies, not even him.

>three hours of staring at a bunch of pretty colours
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>>84907057
I'm just imaging all those Anglo and Boer settlers staring in fascinated horror at this. Did they try and stop it, or could they only keep asking why?
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>>84907067
Tuskegee Airmen

Civil Rights movement

Anything to do with apartheid in South Africa

Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass

Everyone so worked up about this blackwashing of a heavily fictionalized account of a barely documented historical event is ridiculously insecure with their own past and culture.
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>>84907225
You honestly think 30 years from now people are going to remember any of this? They won't be the "most watched movies" in "existance" for very long at all. But this is all beside the point. The point is that Superheros have no basis in history, they are not historical figures, no ones culture is getting swiped away from the because the goddamn Flash was played by a Latino in a film.
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>>84907067
Maybe when Mansa Munsa single-handedly crashed the economy in the middle-east on his pilgrimage to Mecca?
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>>84907284
>of a heavily fictionalized account of a barely documented historical event
Too bad for you that the one thing not fictionalized or barely documented is the known genetic makeup and migrations of the people in those times, including who settled that region.
Niggers happened to be isolated south of Sahara in those times, or treated as slaves that shouldn't be mingled with in the small touching region in Eastern Africa where in those times black populace wasn't big and didn't have major natality rates like today.
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>>84907321

Because he was rich as fuck
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>>84907292
>You honestly think 30 years from now people are going to remember any of this?
You won't remember this but kids who watch capeshit will. And that's also the main audience for these capeshit movies.
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>>84907324

But why does this change matter? The story can remain completely unchanged despite the color of the actors portraying these characters. It doesn't lessen the narrative or the human message relayed through it. It's not trying to revise history. If anyone comes out this thinking black people fought at Troy, they're a fucking moron.
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>>84907345
Yeah and there are people who remember Batman & Robin fondly I'm sure but who honestly gives a fuck
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>>84907337
Yeah, turns out handing out gold bars to every guy you meet is a quick way to flood the market in a place that uses gold coins as currency. Still an interesting story though, and maybe it would give insecure american blacks a bit of an ego boost if they saw that gaudy flashing of wealth is not a new thing in the black community.
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>>84898937
>Not unsubscribing after Sense 8
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>>84907374
Difference is that critics suck MCU's dick so their legacy isn't going anywhere.
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>>84907204
Jesus Christ.
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>>84907364
The Trojan War is a myth, you dip.
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>>84907411

Exactly.
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>>84907364
Well here's the thing.
You can wage your racial justice wars against Western Europeans all you want.
But Eastern and South-Eastern Europeans didn't colonize shit and were in fact themselves colonized by Mongols and Ottomans, far longer than niggers under whites and while surviving far worse rule than niggers under whites.
Trying to play racial games with a people who value their history and are still trying to find their identity barely a century after they have survived Mongols who inflicted the 2nd biggest loss of life after WW2, Ottomans, and Communism;
is asking for a fucking beating.
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>>84907364
why don't we make everything black? fucking retard
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>>84898939
to be fair ancient greeks and pre-turkish anatolians probably were a bit swarthier than the people here
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>>84907394
I doubt these "critics" have the power the set anything in stone, but this is all beside the point I was making anyways
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>>84907379

People literally did not know how economics works. Romans in the 3rd century devalued their currency so they'd have more silver and gold and instead it just led to hyper-inflation.
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>>84907479
>were a bit swarthier
Meds were always generally brown haired and white/bronze skinned, with varied eyes.
The snownigger or niggerish traits were outliers.
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>>84906639
>Ideally they'll die the slow and miserable death they deserve
They are literally finnacied from taxes, they will never die. Why shouldnt I get mad when shit like that is made from my taxes?
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>>84907364

Because it's a foundational part of our common European historical heritage, it's not the beauty and the beast or little mermaid.
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I consider myself racist and I actually don't have a problem with black (or other) people playing historically not black people. I DO however, have a problem with numale liberal faggots complain about the same with whites playing blacks. You either care and care about everything (everything should be historically accurate) or nothing. But this is blatantly anti-white, and even shit smearing by the jews (Scarlett Johanson, being a jew, and playing in GitS and the public blaming whites for it). This has only worked for jews until now (when they need to be white, they are, but when they need to play the victim, they are jews), but recently whites can't do anything the other groups do.

Fun fact about jews by the way. Of our country's many centuries long history, jews had their fair share of it, yet they are currently not recognized by an offical minority by the government. And guess why? Because they themselves don't want to be. They want to be "white" and only jew when they are the victim.
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>>84898855
I bet this is directed by a white guy.
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>>84899061
>heterofied
wha...?
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>>84906512
And it's the most popular shit ever.
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>>84899755
>announcing reports
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>>84907558
less and less people pay the tv license every year
I shan't be paying that shit ever again
and even if they literally tried to take you to court (they wont) just say that the BBC are known peadophile defenders and you morally refuse to pay money to support such people
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>>84907630
A jew
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>>84907675
Ah yes. What a convenient excuse.
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>>84905714
This
Turk = Turkiye (Turkish) = Turiya (Hittite) = Troia/Troya (Greek) = Trojans
Turks are descendant of Trojans
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>>84907656
Or you could also say:
>I refuse to support an organization that blackwashes the cast of a people who are still trying to find their identity and preserve their history after 4 centuries of oppression under Turks and over 1000 years of their values being suppressed and destroyed by Abrahamic Roman filth
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>>84899755
>We;re all adults here
>Ive already flagged a few questionable posts.
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>>84907697

turkroaches are so fucking dumb.
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>>84907703
well no because then you'd be arrested for illegal opinions
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>>84906639
They got a drama series about Louis XIV which I think was meant to be a "historical-fantasy Game of Thrones-like cash-in" but I had to switch it off 5 minutes into the first episode. The very first scene had a full frontal nudity sex scene with no relevance to the plot before cutting to the opening theme which was, I shit you not, an M83 song. On a 17th century period drama.
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>>84898855

>it's real

lol
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>>84899079
shut the fuck up you coal burning cretin
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>>84905600
>There is some historical evidence that, 10 years after the conquest of Constantinople, Mehmed II visited the site of Troy and boasted that he had avenged the Trojans by conquering the Greeks (Byzantines)

WE
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>>84907211
Respect to you dude, shame for all the racist here, when all we want was a historic accuracy
I like blacks, I hate pandering liberal fags
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>>84898855
So we gonna see another white woman black man pairing again. Fuck this.
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I'm convinced it doesn't matter as much as you sore-arsed queens think it does.
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>>84907697
WE
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>>84907364
And we can make them all wear jeans and t-shirts, and have them do a street rap battle instead of real war
You idiot, whats the point of period movies?
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>>84907847
>Mehmed II visited the site of Troy and boasted that he had avenged the Trojans by conquering the Greeks (Byzantines)

Rather astute of him.
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>>84907885
Have you prepped your wife's bull yet for tonight?
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>>84905584
Wouldn't be the first time the Brits would piss off the Greeks. They went and bought a whole bunch of ancient Greek artifacts off the Ottomans when they had taken control over the country. Britain still won't give any of it back to Greece
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I can't wait for the BBC scene with Achilles and his sex slave
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>>84907913
Use the tree, anon.
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>>84907975
That touched a nerve, oh the irony.
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>>84906490
I dislike the casting because black people are pet little babies to the political and media establishment who must be guarded and heralded. Oh look how diverse black panther is ( diverse is code for lack of Europeans) then when some faggot Egyptian gods are casted as white the shit hits the fan.
However cast black people in the roles of long standing European characters or mythological figures and its fantastically diverse and a step into the 'future'.

Perhaps it is a step into the future but not the future I want where Europeans have been replaced by fucking Africans and Muslims. Fuck that noise
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>>84906302
>it's less glaring in Black Mirror
Black Mirror takes place in a universe where no white person has EVER had sex with another white person, it makes you wonder where the fuck new white people come from

Also remember that episode where the guy says "in our society we cull the subhumans, those unfortunates who are genetically predisposed to criminal violence and inferior intelligence" and then they showed black soldiers machine gunning white prisoners? What was up with that?
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>>84907992
You're the one with all the black cocks living rent free in their head, anon.
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>>84907697
Memes aside, using Turk actors wouldn't actually be a problem since they look Meds anyway
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>>84908026
>Quipped the cuck
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>>84907885
It wouldn't matter if it was a two way street. Heimdall casted black that's ok. Hours casted as white and the media and liberals go fucking nuts.
When will you realize your history is free game and theirs is protected, if it continues into lunacy and the future our history and future will be stripped away of us. It certainly is becoming a problem. The presence of white people is considered a negative to some and they aren't afraid to vocalise this, in fact they're often encouraged.
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>>84898939
Brad Pit was the worst possible Achilles, he was literally the movies weak tendon.
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>>84899755
4chan is the hub of angry white boys, what do you expect? Their silly racism is their escapism of their shitty lives, I ain't even mad, just feel bad for them

t; black guy
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>>84899755
Get a load of this nigger
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Blackwashing again? UGHHH
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>>84908245
Pitt>Bloom
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>>84907853
Le based Black man.
Seriously, I agree with everything the guy said but the mere fact that he is black isnt changing shit. Stop sucking someone's cock just because he criticises things he has at best a connection to that he didn't choose.
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>>84900492
Well at least it isn't based on history.
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