How would the heist play out if dunnheir wasn't killed

he ans his friends would be dead.

He's out right?

>>84875153
Ewan, ya friends are dead!

Ewan Yufronz

Ike Hill! The bus driver.

>>84875369
No, no. It's Eikeltha Bussdraiver.

>>84875153
Is this scene on the same tier of kino as the plane scene?

>>84875501
Better

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>Gotham National Bank Manager: Do you have any idea who you are, Stea Lingfrom? You and your friends are dead!

Is this one of the most underrated reveal in film history? Nolan's love for twist reveals isn't just a gimmick like Shyamalan's use of them, but it's deeply tied to his recurring thematic obsessions, the cerebral labyrinths, the intellectual games around the mysteries of one's Identity and Memories, and the concept of Time. Stea's amnesia is a continuation of Guy Pearce's character in Memento. His wearing a mask is highly symbolic: he doesn't remember that he and his friends were dead all along (this denial of one's death and the traumatic grief/memory glitches that follows can be seen in Insomnia and Inception to some extent), he "hides" his true self. However when the bank manager reminds him of this essential truth, he manages to find Himself, he can now achieve psychological inner peace and gets Reborn. Stea's journey culminates in him finally removing the mask (his visage is abnormally pale, as a sign of his undead state), but if you remember correctly, indeed all his friends remain dead (they never take off the "masks", which "blinds" them, if you will), as they have not been able to triumph over their former traumas (I assume they all died in a bus accident, hence the subconcious re-playing of the trauma at the end) in order to regain their lost identity/memory. Much more subtle and thematically deep that Bruce Willis' realization at the end of The Sixth Sense imo, and also brilliantly subverted by having the reveal at the BEGINNING instead of the end, which btw is classic Nolan. His subversion of narrative structure is also part of the brilliance of Memento and Inception. His films are psychological, intellectual labyrinths.

What would the first scene of Batman Begins be like if it was centered on Ras algull ?

What lines would become memes ?

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>>84875363
>>84875369
>>84875489
>>84875501
>>84875524

>/tv/ can quote every line of the bank scene because its crisp clean sleak heist kino and masterfully paced

>/tv/ can quote every line of the plane scene because its goofy nonsensical and has bizzare sound mixing and hammy acting

POTTERY

This is by far the best meme to have ever come out /tv/

>>84875591
> mind your surroundings
> for ras al ghul is immortal... his ways supernatural

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>I'm McKenna with Draul, here!
Is Draul the Joker's real name?

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tfw u blast a huge fart

>>84875770
But who was Mckenna?

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>>84875489
Objectively shit.

>>84875838
He was with draul

>>84875591
>Slow pan showcasing temple in the middle of nowhere, high in the snowy mountains, dusk
>Suddenly dramatic music as a team of ninjas are show slowly approaching
>entrance to the temple, lone monk is sweeping the path
>*ptoof* noise as dart hits him in the neck, killing him instantly
>ninja does necessary front-flip into frame
>talks into his hand where he has some kinda communication device
>"Tango down, he's praying in limbo now"
>back of the temple, a window
>ninja sneaks up and carefully opens it and then sneaks in
."I'm the den"
>he carefully sneaks through where he's spotted by a monk exiting the bathroom
>the monk pauses and turns to run when suddenly a ninja drops on him from above and cracks his neck
>the ninja takes off his mask, it's Liam Neeson
>"Stay vigilant, one mistake could be your death"
>Neeson and team make it to the final room where the boss monk is sitting, praying
>the camera faces the monk head on, he's faced away from the door so we see the team silently enter the room behind him
>the monk opens his eyes but doesn't move
>"Do you seek enlightenment?"
>"No", Neeson says, "we're claiming your temple. Surrender now and we'll kill you quickly"
>"I see. The path you walk on will not bring you peace. A journey that begins in blood can only in blood"
>ninja drops in front of him and kills him
>"night night, old man"

>>84875879
Not an argument

>is it a problem?
>No, i'm Dunnhier

A strange tale of hubris right at the beginning. Here we see a guy who's so full of himself, he (perhaps constantly) boasts that he can work around any problem, because "[he's] Dunnhier", the legendary thief.
However, almost immediately after his first appearance, he is nonchalantly shot in the back. It really delivers Nolan's message about crime escalation perfectly; the low-life criminals in Gotham have no respect, even for other criminals and their previous merits. Even Dunnhier, with all his skills, is expendable.

>criminals in this town used to believe in things....honor....respect!

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>I guess the Joker is Azkras Esthice
They keep referring the Joker by many different names throughout the heist but not with certainty.
Who was he? Was he on the same level as Dunnhier? If he can be compared to Joker, maybe..

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>Tu'guy's on the roof

Why did he not tell the others about Dunnhier also being on the roof?

>>84877571

Joker gave each of them different information. He needed a different backstory to get them all interested in the job. It's only though the last survivor (McKenna) realizing this that he thought he was safe from the joker's plan.

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>>84877760
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>>84875770
Never change.

>>84876129
Nice

Was dunnheir a hothead?

Would he take Bane's side?

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>>84875556
Saved

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The question that keeps repeating itself throughout the movie, who is the Joker?
Nolan made McKenna give exposition to us and reveal the names of the other heisters, and if you listen very carefully, you can make out three distinct names he calls the Joker by. Askras Esthice, Shous Martt and Thegea Hublandeyab.

To crack the name, we have to go back to the earliest scene of dialogue.
>Three of a kind, let's do this.
>Two guys on the roof.
>Five shares is twenty.
>Six shares.
1. Askras
2. Esthice (x)
3. Shous (x)
4. Martt
5. Thegea (x)
6. Hublandeyab (x)
All the numbers mentioned in the conversation can be eliminated from the list, the ones left reveal his true name.
Askras Martt.. Askras Martt.. Crazy & Smart.. BRAVO NOLAN

>>84875597
2 e's