I have recently finished reading the Disaster Artist, wasn't

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Real human bean...

>owes all his success to Tommy because without Tommy he would just be another prettyboy actor in hollywood.
>writes a biography cashing in on his friendship with Tommy
Greg Sestero is great friend.

He watched American Beauty and then decided to emulate it but it turned out all retarded.

>>84820693
damn...

>>84820693
Tommy's child within never died, on contrary, it ruled him over, his childish mentality was the main driving force behind his bizarre yet unstoppable actions.

I wish I knew him IRL

yeah but where did the money come from?

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>>84820693
This caught me completely off-guard.

>>84821367
According to the book, he started from selling toys on the street and some time later got into the real estate business. He owns a couple of buildings in San-Francisco.

You're tearing me apart Lisa

>>84821471
oh yeah i read it but that's quite a leap. there has to be extra steps between selling toys/jackets to owning prime real estate.

>>84821592
Real estate and there is some vague insinuation that some old woman left him a huge sum in her will

>>84822034
This is the most likely answer- he had a wealthy older sugar momma.

>>84820693
That made it sound like Tommy is a real life anime protagonist

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>>84822256

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>yfw based tommy is just another of the emperor's alter egos to shape humanity before the great crusade

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>>84820693
>>84822339

>tfw Tommy probably believed in magic

>>84820693
>This man had no detectable talent, did everything wrong... and seemed to take an hour to learn what most people picked up in five seconds.
>tfw this describes you perfectly

I feel a lot more sympathetic towards Wiseau now.

Anyone else hyped for The Vampire from Alcatraz: King of Vampires?

>>84823664
Sestero also heavily implies Tommy was sexually abused by older men on more than one occasion. In a weird way, I kind of admire Tommy. He didn't give a shit about what anyone else had to say and now he's rolling in money thanks to his c shitty movie

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>>84820693
>tfw Tommy's planet will never be real
Greg better have kept that fucking pen

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>go to San Francisco for vacation
>find this
I hope he owns this place and it's not some store taking advantage of his image

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>>84820693
im now mad that

the nostalgia critic fanbase aka people with no jaw make fun of this guy now

FUCK

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>>84825318

>>84821149
>[Trump's] child within never died, on contrary, it ruled him over, his childish mentality was the main driving force behind his bizarre yet unstoppable actions.
Really activated my almonds.

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>>84824786
>Tommy was sexually abused by older men on more than one occasion.
>I kind of admire Tommy

>>84822062
What happened to the theory that he received brain damage in a car accident and won millions in a civil law suit?

>>84825296
There are art house theaters that might still have "The Room" nights. They actually quote the movie out loud and throw spoons around when ever a framed spoon comes on screen.

>>84825930
I think that theory's on par with the DB Cooper theory.

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watching the room is very interesting as a programmer

it's like Tommy is a video game character and everyone else is just a NPC

like you know when you talk to a npc and they just repeat the same thing over in the same monotone voice?

>despite living in communist ridden shithole

Yeah, because the former Soviet countries are so much better off now...

>>84826451
Please don't bait here.

>>84826451
they are
They're still shit, but at least you're not starving or getting sent to the gulag

>>84825318
To be fair the Nostalgic Critic debacle helped Tommy reach a wider audience. The Room and Tommy Wiseau may not be known for the right reasons, but they are known. And now Tommy has his own fanbase even if it's mostly ironic.

>>84826528
Not even bait.

>>84826540
>They're still shit, but at least you're not starving or getting sent to the gulag

Gulags were discontinued in the 50s and people in the vast majority of the USSR had a standard of living comparable to the Western European countries, with Russia having a standard of living even BETTER in many respects (more vacation time, better education, a shitload more culture, etc.)

There's a case to be made for the Baltic states being better of with the collapse of the USSR, but they're basically the only ones.

>>84820693
>intelligence: 3
>charisma: 9

This guy...
He looks like he's about to fight Connor McCloud.
That's just what I see.
Handsome guy, but he looks like a Highlander villian.

>>84826685
t. ruskie.

>>84826685
You're a lousy propagandist.

Any other interesting books about film/tv/actors? Really enjoyed disaster artist and norm macdonalds book

>>84826685
you're correct in gulags being a meme but speaking as a slovak and to my knowledge the entire v4, it's a lot better now in the 2010s than before the fall of USSR. i admit that the 90's were tougher and you could argue it was better before that. it wasn't the absence of communism that made it tough but not being properly prepared for it. there were so many fucking loopholes around that time anyone who wasn't mother theresa and had a triple digit iq could make bank at the state's and people's expense, especially the politicians themselves.

>>84826911
What he says is true: Gulags stopped being seriously terrible after the 30s (in that time, around a million died for political reasons) and were pretty much alternative prisons in all functions, ending in redundancy, and the Holodomor (that being, using famine to control population in a zone usually striken by it in the time) was pretty much a fabrication.

Artists pls leave.

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>>84822435
This.
That`s why his accent is weird and that`s from where his money comes from.
He has shared with us his wisdom, and will vanish until another time in the future.

>>84826451
poland was and still continues to be a shithole

though I actually doubt tommy is from poland. He does not look like a polack.

>>84827091
t. tankie

>>84827965
Did I say Stalin was a good boy who dindu nuffin or that the famines were because of those dirty kulaks?

>>84820658
Hahaha. What a story, Mark.

He's french

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>>84822339

>>84826323
What theory? You mean the one where he died in the ocean after jumping out? Because that is probably what happened.

>>84820658
I've known Tommy now for the better part of seven years now -- as well as someone could "know" Tommy.

Tommy and Greg had a bit of a falling out after the release of the Disaster Artist and Best Friends was Greg's attempt to make up for what transpired after that. Tommy finally "approved" of the Masterpiece after its SXSW soft-opening but that was clearly going to be made regardless of his approval.

Tommy's a smart guy. He isn't traditional but he knows how to make money through small transactions. He can always draw a crowd to his events.

Years ago he seemed to not really like his crowd and sort of used Greg as a crutch but as they grew apart he's become a lot more appreciative of his audience. I think the audience has become more mature with time as well. There's always weirdos, but its hard not to respect someone thats made a career off this film.

His new all-american-boy and co-star from the Neighbors is sort of mirroring Greg's style of taking as much as he can from Tommy in return for friendship and being Tommy's lacky. But at least his new boy has ambition outside of mining Tommy's pockets and trust.

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>>84826685
>t. comrade boris taking a break from making more threads on /r/the_donald

>>84826596
The Room had a cult following even before Nostalgia Critic was a thing.

>>84829724
He is presumably talking about the "Wiseau is DB Cooper" theory

>>84820658
>Lent my copy to a friend
>Dumped me from their life via text message and moved overseas
>Never got my book back

Fucking hell. Every time Disaster Artist threads come up I want to go re-read but now I can't.

Does anyone remember that guy on /tv/ who claimed he worked for Tommy and told surprisingly accurate stories about him?

>>84825318
most people dont even know who that is, like me, so i wouldnt worry

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>>84833197
wish i was here for these

>>84833375
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/55036976/#55036976

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>>84820693
This fucking hit me man.

how old was he during the room? he looks like 60 years old, what the fuck

Greg Sestero is a fucking scumbag, he outright says that Tommy told him not to reveal his backstory and then Greg puts it all in a tell-all book to make a few bucks.
What a backstabbing piece of shit honestly, Tommy is the only reason anybody knows who he is.

>>84833690
Pretty sure he talked to Tommy before releasing the book. Half the shit Tommy said is likely bullshit anyway.

>>84833690

Seriously. Greg even paints a picture of a lonely, nice, if incredibly weird and eccentric guy. Like over the course of that whole book there's almost nothing to make you dislike Tommy. He's utterly baffling, but nothing to hate.

Shit sucks. I felt kind of bad for reading it afterwards.

I don't know if I want to bother watching the film version. I think I'd feel too dirty.

>>84820658
Weird that this thread is posted the day after I decided to look into this meme.

>>84820693
Part of me feels a bit sad about how people make fun of him and the movie; the guy obviously has some problem.

>>84833733

All of it probably is. Still.

I got the impression that the book was already written and Greg guilted him into letting it go forward more than he honestly was okay with it.

>>84833741
I can't feel sad about it, The Room is the worst shit ever put to film without any trace of irony.

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>>84820693
wow

>>84831547
Why did they had a falling-out

>>84833734
Tommy was extremely manipulative and rude though. He was likable at times, but at other times extremely childish and malevolent in an offputting, not charming, way.

Not defending Gregg, but I think both of them are complex individuals who both needed one another and yet use one another. Its a strange relationship, but a lasting one at least.

>tfw after having seen it so many times you unironically like The Room

it's probably one of my favorite movies ever if I'm being completely honest

>>84833988

You're not wrong. It's just that with the childish rudeness Tommy expressed, he seems fundamentally damaged.

>>84833998
I use that flower shop dog scene to enter altered states of conciousness

>>84833998
>when irony goes too far

>>84825862
10/10 ending, desu

>>84833998
Finally, somebody else who feels the same. No 'probably' from me.

>>84825862
Damn, that must've been so sad.

>>84833673
He's a vampire

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>>84826685
Marxists get out

>>84834163

That would explain why all the outside scenes were filmed in a sound stage.

>>84820703

>Greg Sestero is great friend

you keep your stupid comments in your pocket!

>>84833403
thanks fampai

So is he actually disabled?

>I hate Shadman! His anatomy is unrealistic and his fetishes are bizarre!
>that's why I only jerk it to superior Japanese hentai
Does not compute.

>>84834550
at least sperg out in the right thread

>>84834585
This is the right thread, Tommy Wiseau is Shadman.

>>84820693
People talk about him like he's dumb, and maybe he is, but I feel like his mind is just too alien for normal measures of intelligence.

I've watched interviews with him, and he has this seamless way of starting out with a simple statement and gradually progressing into absolute nonsense. I've tried to pause videos and follow his tangents before, and I actually can't. It's not stupidity so much as it is an ability to develop extremely tenuous or nonexistent connections between things.

>>84833854
Greg spits out a lot of personal information about Tommy in The Disaster Artist - pretty much pins down where he's from, how he made his money, why he is the way he is, his quirks, everything.

>>84820658
>>tfw Tommy never had any real friends besides Greg Sestero.
And Greg Sestero is a fucking cunt, who shits on Tommy for whole book.

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>>84835443
Reminds me of an interview I was reading where some one asked Tommy about Greg and he said he shouldn't give info about his best friend

>tfw Tommy might be the bigger man

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>>84835443
>mfw I will never be Tommy Wiseau's friend

Anyone have the paragraph where Greg finds an old photo of Tommy on his fridge and realizes that something horrible happened to him?

>>84835937
I wanna know more about this

>>84835948
from tvtropes:
At one point during chapter 4, Greg notices a photo of a younger Tommy, with natural-looking chestnut brown hair and a pair of very untroubled eyes. Tommy himself doesn't want to talk about it.
I leaned in for a closer look at the fridge-door Tommy as the following thought passed coldly though me: Something really awful happened to the guy in this picture.

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>>84835976
What happened to him?

>>84825318
He deserves it, you dumbass. Read the earlier parts of the book, the guy is a total asshole, an insecure one at that.

>>84836003
It's implied he may have been in a car accident that killed someone close to him

>>84834599
you're not tommy wiseau, shadman

>>84833172
Go download an audiobook, it's an even better experience than the book.

>>84820703
Tommy is an insecure psycho though.

>everyone here shitting on Greg
Without Greg, you would have never known all this about Tommy. By sacrificing his friendship, didn't he open Tommy up to countless more, now that people can know the real TW?

I met Tommy last June. There was one of the showings where he's present for the film. He invited those with nearby birthdays onto the stage and I got up with a couple other people.

I should mention his appearance at this point. He was wearing True Religion Jeans, some kind of suspender thing attached but not over his shoulders, a Bugatchi-esque shirt, and his hair was soaking wet with what looked to be oil. He's actually pretty small IRL compared to what I expected, petite build.

I snapchatted it with a couple others and he yelled at us. Then apologized profusely. Then made some joke about how he likes flip phones. At this point he got close enough that I could clarify he had actual peanut oil in his hair. He smelled tremendously of peanuts.

He invited us up but like didn't interact with us. So there were like 15 people on stage while he answered 30 plus questions. It was bizarre and hilarious.

When we all sat back down he sauntered to the lobby. I was like, well fuck I should just catch him in the lobby. So I follow him out and I walk up without a plan.

"Hey Tommy! Big fan, I'm so glad you could come out."

"Yeah hae hae it is gre-eet.... I like eet."

Face to face with the guy I didn't know what to say, but I decided to go the route of trying to come off as a genuine fan and see what happened.

"So I like to write screenplays and I've considered dabbling with production or stuff like that. Do you have any tips, or a creative method that you've found has resonated?"

"Ha ha ha"

I just kind of nodded. I asked for a picture and it came out pretty horrible.

"Thanks Tommy."

"Ur thee best."

I dunno how to describe the level of just absurdity. Typing it out doesn't do it justice. He's fucking odd. Like, unbelievably fucking odd. I've never felt so much like I had met an extraterrestrial.

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>>84820658
You fucks ever notice how he only wears shades now, ever since The Room was discovered

he looks FUCKED UP

>>84826745
Like Fantastic from NV with less self-awareness

>>84837555
Post the picture.

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a truly beautiful man

>>84837555
He doesn't wear two belts anymore, does he?

>>84820693
Tommy's autism is off the charts. I'd be nervous as fuck around him.

>>84837555
>He smelled tremendously of peanuts
This got a laugh out of me. Nice trips.

>>84835976
gulag

>ywn chat with Tommy and bond over a nice glass of hot water

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>>84827877
>poland
>a shitte
fuck off

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>>84820658
W I S E A U K I N O I N C O M I N G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZXdU3iuAyI

>>84838317
you know THAT'S WHY there are no terrorist attack in poland, right?

Is because refugees don't get any welfare checks from polish government. They run away to germany for that.

>>84838317
[citation needed]

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How can this guy be so famous without people knowing anything concrete about his past? Will we ever know his true story?

>>84821592
He got really lucky with his real estate investments is what I've heard.

>>84825296
He owns multiple buildings in SF. Thats the first one he owned I think

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>release date: 8. December 2017
REEEEEEEE!!!!!!111 JUST GIVE ME THE ROOM-FLICK ALREADY!

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>>84838688
>it's real
Holy fuck what were they thinking? I thought this movie wrapped up last fucking year

>>84826451
>decimating country for 40-60 years
>they are shit now
hmmm.jpg

>>84834599
Tommy Wiseau does look like your average Shadman drawing

>>84827091
what is jachymov

I don't smoke weed normally but I bought some off an old school "friend" and decided to watch The Room while high.

It makes SO much more sense although parts still made me laugh.

>WHAT DO YOU NEED MONEY FOR!?!?

>>84838763
It only comes out on December 8th in America. It'll take some time for it to reach my country and if it doesn't it'll take atleast a month or two for decent rips to come out. I could be dead before I can see it

>>84838763
They're waiting for Oscar season due to the good reception it got at early screenings.

>>84838317
why the fuck would anyone strike in poland. people care when you shit in kitchen not in toilet

>>84826685
can you point to any data that supports this?

>>84838860
I can't imagine how pissed Tommy would be if Disaster Artist wins an Oscar

There will NEVER be another Wiseau-kino in your lifetime.

>>84837555
I met Tommy at a comic book convention several years ago and my experience with him was pretty similar with his incoherent comments and the weird outfit (three belts). He was definitely one of the nicest famous people I've met since he talked to me and my friends for like 10 minutes and signed all our merchandise and a project we did on The Room in our English class.

>>84838216
>Tommy likes hot water

He might be Chinese who underwent plastic surgery. That's why he was selling jackets from Korea.

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>>84838688
>Greg is shorter than Tommy

What were they thinking ?

>>84839032
>>84838688
>Tommy isn't wearing two belts

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>>84838402
omg
A film about f(r)iends

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>>84838402
>can already see the boom mic guy in Tommy's sunglasses
Fucking classic

>>84826685
potemkin posting. the old tricks never die

>>84820658
>poor boy from Pooland

>>84838474
He's secretive about his past. Maybe he's traumatized by something that happened back then??

>>84820734
Talented Mr. Ripley*

>>84825862
Absolute KINO ending

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>The parts in The Disaster Artist you can tell are just bullshit to make Tommy out to be worse than he actually is.

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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE TRAILER

>>84838359
Holy fuck The Room actually made a killing.

>>84839777
We can all thank those fucking retard e-"""""celebs"""""" for that

>>84836047
Yeah how dare this guy make a misguided attempt at making his dreams come true.
Get the fuck out of here you broken cynic.

Anyone seen this 1 hour Tommy interview? He seems like such a nice guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBmIq-LNXec

>>84839734
it's going to be shit huh?

>>84839695
For example?

>>84839734
Tommy is still trying to get this movie banned. The filmmakers have constantly recut the movie, editing out so much to please Tommy and even though Tommy was fine with the cut they gave him months ago to look at, he again isn't pleased with it.

He claims Greg made up a lot of stuff about him in the Disaster Artist and so since this documentary is based on the book, he doesn't want anyone to see it.

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>>84833998
I was spoiled on all the major funny parts from the flash game and youtube clips, so when I actually sat down to watch the movie, it was just bad instead of hilariously bad.

>>84838688
I don't think it'll be good. They might get some of the funnier parts down, but I don't think Rogan and the Francos can do anything emotional, i.e. anything that doesn't fit their narrow dude weed lmao brand of humor.

Tommy's bizarre, but there's a certain amount of heart to him that I don't think they'll be able to (or even bother trying to) capture.

>>84838937
>implying Tommy isn't working on season two of the neighbours RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>84833998
I've seen it twice in the cinema. Legendary

So has anyone managed to work out how Tommy is so rich and how he was able to afford the most expensive film cameras of the early 2000's, buying so much out of his own pocket when making the Room and refusing to hire any equipment?

Did he have a rich grandma or something?

>Greg is doubtful about the checks Tommy gives him for his work
>goes to the bank to investigate
>teller slips up and tells him not to worry
>because the Wiseau account is "a bottomless pit"
How fucking rich is Tommy? Seems like he made a killing in real estate.
Is Tommy secretly a genius?

>>84821592
>there has to be extra steps between selling toys/jackets to owning prime real estate
you don't know how much money these people make in the streets my man. I rented a house from a dude that sold clothes, rugs and blankets from the back of his car and he had built 3 houses and still had space for one more in his lot which he's currently building.

>>84840137
>worked with film cameras and digital cameras SIDE BY SIDE

I'm still waiting for a 3D digitalization

>>84840137
He is DB Cooper

>>84840228
He is the secret third Bogdanoff brother

>>84838688
>all those cringe stoner comics

Is it going to be serious? I hope it is

>>84840015
sad!

>>84838688

Tommy is too good looking.

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>>84840228
Despite being pretty shit at filmmaking/acting. Tommy is some sort of autistic savant when it comes to business. At least according the book.

It's kind of sad in a way to have your talents and your dreams not aligning.

>Seems like he made a killing in real estate.
San Francisco Bay Area real estate prices are utterly ridiculous, especially in San Francisco proper.

Buying an apartment in San Francisco will easily cost you a million dollars in today's market. If the book is true, Tommy owns an entire fucking building in a prime tourist location, if not multiple buildings.

>>84840228
How do you guys not realize that tommy in all likelihood comes from a rich dinasty (noble people or not, doesn't matter)

>>84839734
Hi, doggy.

>>84838402
i know why Tommy still talks like that, but couldn't Greg have tried acting?

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>the you unironically enjoy The Room

Especially after the revelation that wiseau had originally wrote it as a play, everything about the whole production makes more sense. It's like he did a 1:1 adaptation of a play that never existed, the madman.

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>>84841268
Even if he wrote it as a play, he still managed to fuck it up.
Dogville is a movie written and shot as a play, but somehow worked out in the Art House genre.

https://youtu.be/J5-LqwUHTaM

>>84841500
Sure, I'm not saying it isn't bizarre and misguided, but it certainly makes the viewing of it more enjoyable with that in mind. Like I imagine others have attempted and failed miserably too. Dogville is certainly a good example of how to pull this off, though.

>>84820693
How do you think Tommy felt reading this? Especially the part about no detectable talent. I wonder if he and Greg are still friends. I guess so, it's not like Tommy has anyone else.

>>84820703
To be fair he stuck beside Tommy for years and years despite all of Tommy's narcissistic insanity, bullying and attempts at manipulation and was basically Tommy's only friend.

The Room's secret to success is being a sunday evening TV film with an outstandingly extravagant person doing the role that was made for a nondescript failed model.

It's like making a romcom with Klaus Kinski without any sort of irony.

>>84825871
They're both delusional, childish narcissists.

>>84824786
When and how was Tommy sexually abused?

>>84838688
Makes me feel bad for Tommy that these douchebags are shitting all over him

>>84841211
Can Greg actually act? Wouldn't he have been a more successful actor if he could?

>>84839795
It had a cult following before e-celebs got their hands on it though

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You fellas remember The Tommy Wishow and The House That Drips Blood On Alex?

Top Kino
https://vimeo.com/16679115
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBVhoHngAi741rv8waySIIw

How come Greg remembers every conversation he had with Tommy in such great detail?

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>>84841688
>a romcom with Klaus Kinski
I would watch the shit out of that

>>84842238
Wouldn't you?

>>84820658
>>84820703

this, greg is a terrible friend, made his entire career on making fun of tommy while at the same time living of off him and pretending to be his friend, without tommy nobody would know he existed

>>84836003
>>84835976

Supposedly he was hit by a drunk-driver when he was younger which explains his disfigured face, scars and droopy eye.