Well, here it is /tv/: The Objective Spider-Man Movie Rankings.

It's funny because this will probably be my actual ranking once I've seen them all.

>>84804543
>4. The Amazing Spider-Man
>5. Spider-Man 3
No

>>84804575
>it's cool to ironically like SM3 now xD

>>84804575
The only good thing about SM3 was the Sandman transformation scene.

Judging them by overall quality
Spider-Man 2>Spider-Man>Homecoming> Amazing>Spider-man 3>Amazing 2

Judging by personal enjoyment, switch Spider-man 3 and Amazing.

Homecoming's biggest problem is the fact that the music and cinematography is typical generic MCU shit.

Which is a shame because the script and writing feels noticeably different.

>>84804543
>Homecoming above 1/2
I want MCU shills to fuck off.

Homecoming is worse than Amazing Spiderman, retard

>Homecoming is now better than Raimi because RLM said so
like clockwork

>>84804843
Wholeheartedly agree.

Homecoming's biggest strength is that it's barely a capeshit movie. It's more just a movie about a kid wanting to be accepted and recognized.

Stuff like that scene where some dude says "Hey, you're that spider guy on Youtube, do a backflip!" and then he does it, makes it actually feel human and relatable in a way most capeshit doesn't.

>>84804942
amazing sm movies where dog shit both of them. there's a reason they re-casted and stopped at two instead of completing the planned trilogy.

For me it was
1.Spider Man - Homecoming
2. Spider man 2
3. Spider man 1
4. Spider man 3

the amazing spidermans are so bad they dont deserve to be on this list

>>84804945

To be honest they were campy and melodramatic as fuck.

>>84805407
and you suddenly had this realisation when your friends simulator talked about them?

>>84804543
SM>SM2>SM3>>>>SMHC>>>other shit

This is the objective ranking. New spidey movie was shit

Nah Spider-Man 2 and then Spider-Man are the only two worthy movies.

>>84805407
And Homecoming is what?

>>84805407
You wouldnt have had that opinion yesterday before they made it ok to say that you sheep.

Those movies are good BECAUSE they are melodramatic and campy, they stand on their own feet outside the superhero genre

It's called having heart

>>84805258
It's funny because that's exactly the shit that they think up in brainstorms about appealing to youth and seeming human and relatable. If you think it was barely a capeshit movie you have your head in the sand.

>>84804543
>nostalgia has been accounted for
>but it has been replaced with anti nostalgia

>>84805471
This is correct

manlet Tobey is cringe for both Parker and Spidey
Garfield Spidey is alright
Holland Parker is silly brat, Spidy is alrighty

>>84805651
>It's funny because that's exactly the shit that they think up in brainstorms about appealing to youth and seeming human and relatable.

Yeah, they should've just gone without a script, gotten a geniune 15 year old in a cosplay outfit and yelled "action!"

>>84805948
>Garfield Spidey is alright
>Willingly puts innocent lives in danger for the sake of quips

>>84805969
Yes that is very much my point, an excellent analysis my friend.

>>84805471
>SM3 better that Homecoming.

Nostalgiafaggots are such fucking cancer.

>>84805948
>Garfield Spidey is alright
Yeah totally the skater fuc boi twilight meme actor was the "best" at playing a loser nerd who some how pulls ass way out of his league.

>>84804543
Shit tier list. The only true ranking is:

Spider-Man 2> Spider-Man> Spider-Man 3>>>> Everything else

Anyone who disagrees is a pleb

>>84804543

>what's up, fellow kids?
>have you seen the new film, Spider-Man Homecoming™, brought to cinemas near you by the masterful filmmakers at Marvel Studios?
>I have seen this hip new joint, and I can tell you it's absolutely tubular!
>Anyway, have to ttyl and brb because I'm going to go down to my local cinema complex and I'm going to spend some of my precious allowance on seats for me and all of my cool friends to watch this great movie a third time!

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>>84804543
I unironically agree. The fact that Rich /ourguy/ Evans confirmed it was just the cherry on top and only makes /tv/'s butthurt all the sweeter to savor.

>>84806152
Cool, anon. Good input, thanks for sharing.

>>84806277

Don't be afraid to use negative language on a site like this, community management 101 rules don't apply here you dumb faggot

>>84806152
Damn I'm jealous. Wish I had friends like you. Enjoy your third viewing.

>>84804543
Hm. You know this might be it. I want to watch Spider-Man 2 again but this is probably what I'll end up thinking too

>>84804543
2 > Homecoming > 1
otherwise correct

>>84806343
Ah thanks for the input, "you dumb faggot." Haha that's gonna take some getting used to.

>>84806364
Villain in Homecoming is better. Doc Ock was just mind-controlled. SM2 was good for the time and had better use of lighting but that's about it in retrospect.

>>84806377

Not a problem, dickbreath

Hope you stick around long enough that a clue or two rubs off on you

>>84806415
The villain was the only thing better in HC that SM2. SM2 has better writing, a better character arc for Peter, a more likeable supporting cast (MJ and Ned are faggots in HC), better music, and better cinematography. It also felt much more "earnest," though this is hard to quantify. It certainly didn't pepper the OST with meme songs for all the hip kids to enjoy.

>>84806432
I'll try my best, "dickbreath." Hehehe.

>>84806415
Yeah Keaton was awesome. They nailed the small scale aspect of it all too. And even when it got big it never got too big.

Though I love camp so Spider-Man 2 might still hold up for me

>>84806140
SM3 was shit

>>84806415
2/10. Barely made me reply.

>>84806476
Ned was good because he was a faggot. he was cast perfectly. supporting cast outside of him though is not great desu, especially compared to 2.

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>>84806476
>better writing
"There was... a disturbance..."

>better character arc for Peter
My powers were lost... for some reason.

>more likable supporting cast
>James Franco

>better music
RAINDROPS IS FALLING ON MY HEAD

>It certainly didn't pepper the OST with meme songs for all the hip kids to enjoy.
VINDICATED! SOMETHING ELSE! NO ONE LIKES ME, I HATE MYSELF! ... EMO!!!

Nice try, Raimi. Time to beg Bruce Campbell for more collaborations.

>>84806576
Both of the TASM movies are even bigger shit.

>>84806584
You're going to have to try harder than that to get me to reply seriously. Put effort into your shitposting, this isn't AUS /tv/ anymore.

>>84806578
Because you know I'm right. Doc Ock was dogshit.

>>84806584
see>>84806578

>>84806476
>SM2 has better writing, a better character arc for Peter

Disagree, I thought the writing in Homecoming was way more clever and nuanced (le slavery joke not withstanding) and Peter in this movie isn't a superhero as much as he's learning to be one; which I really liked, felt like a proper origin story. Rest In agree on though.

>>84806582
Making a character irritating on purpose, and casting him on purpose to maximize his irritating potential, is still making an irritating character and I don't like him.

>>84804692
Such a waste of a beautiful moment.

>>84806621
>>84806606
>can't make an argument
It's okay. I accept your surrender.

>>84806606
I can taste your tears through my screen.

>>84806608
God damn that was even worse. 1/10.

>If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside, it can make you sick
>Intelligence isn't enough, young man. You have to work hard. Intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift, and you use it for the good of mankind.

>Patience is one of the most important virtues for a soldier, or a student, to have. At times, it can bring great victories, while at others, it seems to bring nothing at all. However, with practice and discretion... Wait, how many more of these things do I have to do?

>>84806621
see >>84806584

>>84806656
>>84806672

1/10. Consecutive use of bad bait.

>>84806686

>>84806608
>>84806704
No one likes your movie, Raimi. :^)

>>84806681
Dock Ock is shit. Say it. Admit it.

Objective rankings

SM2>SM1>SMHC>SM3>ASM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ASM2

>>84806778
SM1 should be below SM3.

>>84806738
>>84806750
1/10

>>84806836
Dock Ock is shit. Admit it.

Pure Kino:
Spider-man 2 (and 2.1 variation)

Mild Kino:
Spider-man 1

Contrarian Kino:
Amazing Spider-man 1

Ironic Kino:
Spider-man 3

Pure Shit:
Amazing Spider-man 2

>>84806885
1/10. 4th consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84806885
More like Do Cock, right bro?

>>84806576
pleb detected

>>84806978
Dock Ock is shit. Say it.
>>84807008
Yes.

>>84806584
could you be anymore of a faggot? fuck off back your reddit containment board you digusting marvel shill

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>>84807059
Do you feel vindicated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoJV4NLxqg

Something that I liked about HC was how the public actually appreciates Spider-Man. I don't care how much autistic screeching JJJ throws into his fake news paper, there's no way the public would see a guy saving old ladies and school buses from getting in traffic accidents and say "wow this guy is a terrorist! someone needs to stop him!"

>>84804543
Real ranking.

Aryan kíno : The Amazing Spider-Man
All others pleb shit with niggers : rest.

>>84807029
1/10. 5th consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84807145
it's not even in the movie you utter pleb. underplaying elfmans ost is such poor form. go jack off to that little twink holland you degenerate

>>84807145
When was this song in the movie? I don't remember it at all.

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>>84807155
The world also feels lived in. This is maybe the first capeshit I've seen in a while where the extras didn't just look like cardboard NPCs. You'd think DC would double down on making their worlds feel alive since they're working with fictional cities, but nope. The people are just massive crowds blobs.

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>>84807225
>>84807236
So you never even watched SM2. Why are you even here?

>>84807293
Why are you actually responding to him?

>>84807319
Why are you actually responding to him?

>>84807293
the ending credits don't count faggot

>>84807293
Post the scene with that song in it.

>>84806584
wtf i hate raimi now

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>>84804631
>OMG Peter was an emo for 30 seconds Fug this movie amirite guys? LOL dancing what's that I don't leave the house

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>>84807353
>>84807364
>this much damage control
Raimifags BTFO and on suicide watch.

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>>84806965
TAS1 is definitively the most underrated. It's not-so-amazing but at least it's a functional movie you can watch. Which is more than I can say for SM3 and TAS2.

Good Garfield/Stone chemistry and the suit is underrated. The fact that they changed the suit to me more traditional in TAS2 showed how little faith they had in their own decisions, that and they wanted to sell new toys.

>>84807419
Spider-Man 3 is a fucking mess of a movie. Sony ruined the Sandman movie Raimi clearly wanted to make by forcing Venom on him.

Fuck SM3 and fuck you.

>>84807428
hardly damage control when it's a fact. nice memes m8, you sure showed me

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>>84807507
Sony made it worse It's true.
Even still it's leagues better than that TASM shit that Webb made.
Maybe you're just a sperg with bad taste anon.

>>84807541
Nice damage control, Raimi. No one likes your shit movie no more. :^)

>>84807435
>at least it's a functional movie you can watch
>Lizard finds out who Spiderman is because his camera has his name on it
>Peter lets the robber go because chocolate milk
>lizard turns cops into lizards and we never see what they were up to afterward
>Irfan Khan's character literally disappears halfway through the movie
>NORMAN OSBORNE IS DYING! FIND A CURE FOR THIS MAN WE NEVER SEE IN THE MOVIE
>Peter gives up trying to find Uncle Ben's killer in 5 minutes
>Hire Martin Sheen and Sally Field and waste them
>Crane operators help out Spiderman by turning their cranes but this means nothing because we don't see the city hating Spiderman before
>He can't stop taking off his mask

>>84804631
Happened overnight like a month ago.

Do any of you remember how loathed SM3 was when it was released?

Of course you don't, because you weren't born yet.

>>84807694
>>He can't stop taking off his mask
Give him a break, he was exited after finding out that doing this wouldn't kill him

>>84807696
Back in 2007 people were so high on how good 2 was that the "ok " 3 was seen as a huge disappointment and the fans got autistic and exaggerated how bad it was, so for a long time there was this huge bandwagon of hate regarding this movie. People unironically put it in "worst comic movies ever" lists alongside garbage like Batman and Robin and Catwoman when it was never even close to that kind of bad. A lot of people just accepted this instead of watching it again. I'm convinced 90% of the people that still say Spiderman 3 is total shit haven't watched it in at least 5 years or can't move past their hate boner for it and refuse to accept that it's not as bad as they were conditioned to believe. The movie has obvious problems but it's not garbage by any means, just disappointing compared to the previous 2 and definitely the weak link in the trilogy.

>>84807707
What's your point though?

>>84804543
>tron themed spideysuit
?!

>>84804631
Spider-Man 3 is officially the Star Wars prequels of capeshit.

>>84807707
It was hated mostly by leftists because of the american flag shot (it was during the height of the anti-war movement), and by autists who didn't understand the douchebag Peter scenes. It's a good movie.

>>84807993
There is no "Star Wars prequels of capeshit." Nothing fits the requirements.

>>84807707

I distinctly remember this >>84808043, in the imdb forums the amount of butthurt over the flagpost shot was surreal. And it really was just a mess of a movie, you can tell Raimi was being pushed around by fucking everyone in production and not having the slightest fun with it.

My biggest problem isn't that Zendaya is MJ. It's that Zendaya plays a character I genuinely liked most out of his peer group, with the most personality and wit to her. And none of these qualities are at all compatible with MJ. She's called MJ but she isn't MJ in any capacity other than a name.

>>84808043
>SM3 was good.

Stop trying to push this meme.

Raimi himself admitted it was bad.

How big of a role will this version of Spider-Man play in Infinity War?

>>84808333
Whether or not she's MJ, I hope she becomes Pete's love interest. She reminded me the kind of girls I used to fall for in HS even though they weren't the hottest. You kind of pick up on how she was mildly tsundere and her edgy streak was just a cover for how much she wanted to jump Peter's dick. Loved it.

>>84807707
I recently watched it after SM2 and honestly its mostly deserved.

>>84808420
Liking tsunderes is the ultimate pleb trap, anon. You have some maturing to do.

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>>84808335
Source?

>>84808420

Yeah. That's actually my issue. She's great on her own, and it feels insulting that she's got to be MJ.

>>84804543

Offical power ranking

>Spider-Man 2
>Spiderman: homecoming
>Spider-Man
>Spider-Man 3
>The Amazing Spiderman
>The Amazing Spiderman: rise of electro

>>84807685
Looking at this thread, most people still do.

>>84806066
It's not nostalia if it's a fact.

>>84808333
One thing I realized about this movie that I unironically respect is that they made her a new character instead of just race bending Mary Jane. Honestly, if I were in charge of decisions like that that's exactly what I would do. They wanted a black girl in the movie. Maybe they thought about making her MJ, but instead they created a whole new character designed around this black girl, so to me it's a double win situation. They've got a black girl in the movie like they wanted and they're exercising their creativity by making a new character. It works out well. I might actually go see it now.

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>>84806066
>If you don't like the movie I like, you're a nostalgic faggot.

>>84806249
Back to /pol/ with you.

>>84805471

Yep, this is correct. SM3 felt way more natural to the universe it was in with the first two movies than SM:H was shoved up the ass of the MCU.

I don't give THAT much of a shit about the Avengers. I want Infinity War but shots of the tower, Happy and Iron Man tech does literally nothing for me.

At this point these movies well never be great, just coherent and rounded with hopefully a good set piece.

TASM was surprisingly so forgettable I was actually hungry for a quip. Electro was Schumacher tier.

>>84804543
>spider man 1 as 3rd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1etvYj6aPqY

remind me again Why MCU had fight intense and choreographed as Good as this?

instead you get 100x cut shit no punch CGI-MAN

FUCK OFF

>>84809277
Why does this scene remind me of Evil Dead?

>>84809441
Are you serious?

>>84809514
Yeah?

>>84809564
Fuck off

>>84809675
That's not very nice.

>>84804543
>all the buttblasted nostalgiafags ITT
Take off the goggles for once.

>>84809877
3/10. Tired meme retort.

>>84805978
>>84806076
tbf i don't remembered that part

but in BAKA, Spidey having to struggle to pull out the weapon of the hands of basic human Keaton was lame

What is the true apex of spiderkino, the train scene from SM2 or the Sandman birth scene from SM3?

>>84809937
>projecting this hard

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>>84809997
Peter lifting himself up from under the debris after crying for help then manning up

>>84808470
It reminded me of high school. That's not what I'm into now. You have some reading comprehension to do.

>>84808730
Looking at this thread, Raimi samefags like a motherfucker.

>>84804945
>people actually give a shit about specific reviewers

>>84810162
There were no tsunderes in your high school. The girls genuinely didn't like you. Real life is not anime.

>>84804945
Name one time Jay was wrong.

1. Spider-Man
2. Spider-Man: Homecoming
3. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
4. Spider-Man 2
5. The Amazing Spider-Man
6. Spider-Man 3

>>84810246
What the fuck is this ranking? Is this bait?

>>84809963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXM3GK--nhM

At 1:40, he lands on Rhino's truck. It is barreling down the streets of New York. Instead of finding a way to stop the truck, he hangs out by the window and quips with him. He is literally doing nothing and everyone ahead of the truck is in danger. He puts innocent lives in danger for the sake of being funny and quippy.

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>>84808855
>if you don't like the movie I like, you're an underage MCU shill

>>84810292
Where did this meme that SM2 is good come from?

>>84810292
Nope, my genuine ranking.

>>84810305
When did I say that you mong?

>>84810087
3/10. Tired meme retort.

Spider-Man 2 > Spider-Man > Spider-Man Homecoming >>> Spider-Man 3 > Amazing Spider-Man > Amazing Spider-Man 2

>>84810087
>Projecting this hard

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>>84810333

SM2
SM
Iron Man 4 featuring Spider- Man
SM3
the shitty Garfield movies

>>84810351
>>84810378
>projecting this hard

>>84810437
>Projecting this hard

>>84810437
3/10. Tired meme retort.

>>84810233
Nice projection. They liked me but they hated you. They even told me so as they were bouncing on my cock, breasts shaking and everything as I tried to catch them with my lips and teeth.

They said you were a creepy fag who made them cringe hard as I was fucking them.

>>84810453
>>84810463
>projecting this hard

It would be weirder for the MCU Spider-Man to not have references to the Avengers than to have them. Those guys are world famous celebrities, of course high schoolers would actually worship them like heroes and jerk off to them.

>>84810487
>Projecting this hard

>>84810487
3/10. 3rd consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84810554
>projecting this hard

>>84810589
>projecting this hard

>>84810609
2/10. 4th consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84810629
>projecting this hard

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>>84804543
1. Spider-Man the Animated Series.
2. Spider-Man
3. Spider-Man 2
4. Homecumming
5. Whatever

>>84810637
1/10. 5th consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84810591
>>84810609
>>84810637
>Projecting THIS hard

>>84804543
pretty accurate

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>>84804631
Just like people pretending the prequels are good.

(in reality Attack of the Clones is the only one worth watching/rewatching.)

>>84810691
Attack of the Clones fucking sucked, the only good prequel movie is RotS

>>84810681
>>84810687
>projecting this hard

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>>84810725
>Projecting this hard

>>84810773
>projecting this hard

>Karen, why did the suit around my crotch just get 5x tighter?
>I've been analyzing your performance from the last few missions, Peter, and I've come to the conclusion that sexual thoughts about Liz and MJ are distracting you during reconnaissance and combat. I will be providing relief in order to optimize your performance.
>D-did Mr. Stark include this in his training modules?
>No~

>>84810145
This. Geniunely almost shed a tear when he started chanting "COME ON SPIDER-MAN COME ON SPIDER-MAN"

Unironically capekino.

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>>84810786
>projecting this hard

>>84810302
>He puts innocent lives in danger for the sake of being funny and quippy.
i'm sure that happened sometimes in the comics as well

>>84810725
1/10. 6th consecutive use of tired meme retort.
>>84810786
1/10. 7th consecutive use of tired meme retort.
>>84810908
And it would stupid in the comics too. Raimi understood some shit you see in comics doesn't work in live action.

>>84810302
>He puts innocent lives in danger for the sake of saving a nigger
that's what i saw

>>84811020
And even then he stands around with him for a good 20 seconds, wasting more time and putting more lives in danger instead of stopping the truck. Raimi spiderman never pulled any of this bullshit.

Homecoming 2 will be the best one. Homecoming had to tell a smaller story because of Spidey being so inexperienced, but Homecoming 2 will just go all out, hopefully giving us full power Spidey that actually swings through Manhattan now that he defeated his fear of heights.

>>84804945
this 2bh

redditlettermedia drones attacks again

>>84811266
>Homecoming 2 will be the best because it will be SO BIG GUYS
>It's gunna be SO EPIC GUYS
>DUDE HE'S GONNA DO ALL KINDS OF SHIT IT'S GUNNA BE AWESOME

You're what's wrong with audiences. Small, personal stories > epic superhero extravaganza

>>84811366
I enjoyed Homecoming because of the smaller story, but when Spider-Man 2 exists, we've seen that you can have a personal story without compromising the action. In the end capeshit is about the action.

>>84810871
>>84810994
>projecting this hard

>>84811266
>Homecoming had to tell a smaller story because of Spidey being so inexperienced, but Homecoming 2 will just go all out, hopefully giving us full power Spidey that actually swings through Manhattan now that he defeated his fear of heights.

But the fact that Spider-Man is such a total fucking greenhorn in this movie is what makes it great. It's something geniunely different.

If he's just swinging on skyscrapers trying to stop the badguy from destroying New York it will just be like every other movie.

>>84811366
But there is no reason to watch capeshit if there's no action.

>>84811485
>Projecting This Hard

>>84811486
Peter will get killed by a more experienced villain when Marvel's contract with Sony ends and it will be the catalyst for MCU Stark to go nuclear

>>84811533
>projecting this hard

>>84811598
pRoJectIng ThIs hArD

>>84811485
1/10. 8th consecutive use of tired meme retort.
>>84811598
1/10. 9th consecutive use of tired meme retort.

>>84804543
Looks good. SM1 didn't really age that well. Would switch SM3 and TASM1 though.

TASM is an awful piece of crap. TASM2 at least was entertaining and had interesting setpieces.

Spidey 2
Homecoming
Spidey
Amazing
Spidey 3
Amazing 2

Anyone saying this movie is better than Spiderman 2 is a shill. Anyone saying this movie is better than Spiderman 1 can be a shill or someone with extremely bad taste

>>84810241
Everytime he opens his mouth.

>>84811791
SM2 has aged worse.

SM2 was that awkward period when CGI was starting to get used heavily in Hollywood movies, but when it also looked pretty shit. In SM1 it looked worse but it was also used sparingly.

>>84811909
Spider-Man 1 was the best if not only for Dafoe as green goblin. But I love the first two pretty much equally.

"God speed Spider-Man"

>All these people saying that SM1 is better than SM2
why

>>84804543
Can someone explain to me why the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films were so racist?

>>84812073
It was a different time.

>>84804543

This is an unironically good ranking.

Nice.

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>>84812084
>That moment Uncle Ben was telling Peter about the Day of the Rope

>>84812110
Fuck off shill

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>That moment in homecoming when Aunt May gives Peter her life savings so he can buy Mary Jane at the next slave auction

>>84812148
>Peter, with great power... comes great responsibility. I know a thing or two about responsibility. I learned it in Vietnam, where I spent three hundred and sixty-five hellish days as a chopper gunner in the jungle. .50cal rounds are a lot of power, Peter. I wish I could have used it responsibly... Do you know the damage those bullets do to the bodies of fleeing women and children, Peter? I do. There's not a day goes by I don't see it in my head. Our commander, he thought that ordering that our raids leave no survivors was the "responsible" thing to do. I thought that the "responsible" thing to do was to listen to him. Now, the responsible thing to do now would be to send me to Hell, all of us to Hell. I hope I don't see you there too, Peter.
Jesus, Raimi, that's laying it on a little thick.

My only problem with Homecoming is that it lacks the technical creativity and style the Raimi movies had. Marvel seems to be afraid of colours, and the shots and editing used are very formulaic. The suit should also have more visible webbing desu, I hope they'll have it updated somewhat in the sequel.

was Stark going to reveal spidey's identity to the press at the end when he was gonna give him the iron suit? it would've been exactly like the civil war comic

Good thread

1. SM2
2. SM1
3. Homecoming
4. SM3
5. TASM
6. TASM 2

Objectively the best list

>>84812702
I think he was going to tell Spidey about the Day of the Rope before revealing his identity in order to toughen him up

>>84804543
The action scenes in Homecoming were pretty weak. Compared to Spider-man 2, nothing comes close to the Train Fight or the Doc Ock Hospital scene.

>>84812702
Why is Stark such a dick?

I don't get it. I came out of the movie feeling weird.

It didn't feel like a Spider-Man story at all.
Half-baked. I think that's the word I'd use.
The thing that separates Spidey head and shoulders from the other marvel superhero is that he is one of the most grounded superheroes in Marvel. His failures and the tragedies that he faced early in his teen years that continues later on in his life shapes how he becomes the person the Marvel Universe considers the shining beacon of what a superhero is. Central to Spider-man's development is the death of Uncle Ben.

This is why this movie feels wrong. There are different points in the movie where Peter ponders between two choices and ultimately chooses the selfless thing to do.

The question begs, from where does he draw that morality? From Aunt Mary, who was mainly shown as a hip Aunt? From Tony? Why does Peter care so much about his neighborhood, why is he even a superhero?

It's jarring because there's no mention of anything, no scenes that show how he's supposed to be grounded.

I felt that this movie was okay for a blockbuster team-up movie but really shallow for a Spider-Man story.

>>84812787
>implying Marvel would ever be ballsy enough to adopt Raimi's tropes

>>84812856
Holy fuck I do not need to see Uncle Ben die for the 4th fucking time

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>>84811909
>Anyone saying this movie is better than Spiderman 2 is a shill. Anyone saying this movie is better than Spiderman 1 can be a shill or someone with extremely bad taste.

I've been consuming Spider-Man entertainment for over 2 decades, saw every movie on premiere; and I can with confidence Homecoming is the best Spidey film yet.

Best Spider-Man
Best villain
Best story
Best writing
Best humor

The one thing I'll give Raimi's movies is that they were much more visually distinctive and actually had memorable music. While we're at it I can also say that the 90's animated show isn't that great and Spectacular Spider-Man was superior in every way.

>>84812856
that's a valid point desu
To me personally it felt like spidey's moral code was derived strictly from his youthful naivety, which is what made him seem endearing and grounded to me. It's like the vulture said, he doesn't understand life.

>>84807435
The suit was shit. Web pattern was just straight lines instead of the scalloped web pattern, basketball textures and no belt made the front red part look like it was melting off and dripping towards his crotch

>>84813009
Why were they still using Cap's fitness videos when he's now an enemy of the state?

>>84813009
Just fuck off already. It'll never be as good as Raimi's first 2 because it was made to make money.

1) TASM

Power gap

2) Spiderman 2

3) Homecoming

4) Spiderman 3

5) TASM2

6) SPIDERMAN

None of the movies are perfect. TASM has the super awkward "first powers" scene in the train car, for example. And cutting important scenes for later sequels is a huge mistake. But it's still the most spiderman film out there, has a great indie vibe that separates it from average capeshit, perfect Peter and Gwen and a spidey that quips, and the Lizard is by far the best and most accurately portrayed spidey villian on screen to date. Also captured the pure joy of spiderman swinging the best of any film.


Movies like S3 and TASM2 are overall terrible, but have some redemptive qualities. S3 has the great dance scene, birth of sandman, brock is well done(brock not venom), and closes the arc with Peter and Harry nicely. TASM2 is garbage but has more perfect peter/gwen and the most emotional moment of any capeshit to date in that her death hits and hits hard.

Original Spiderman has aged horribly, Homecoming is okay but feels wildly incomplete and will probably move further down this list as time goes on.

>>84813138
(You)

>>84813125
Every film is made to make money you tard

>>84813009
wtf I love Disney Entertainment Inc. and their subsidiary merchandinsing companies now?

>>84813190
Not really.

>>84813091
yeah, you can tell that whoever designed that shit had a bunch of Sony suits yelling at them to make it DIFFERENT AND SOMETHING WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE

>>84804543
1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man
3. Spider-Man: Homecoming
4.The Amazing Spider-Man
5. Spider-Man 3
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2

>>84813272
SM1 is easily worse than homecoming though

>>84813272
this

>>84813138
>TASM 2 has more perfect Peter/Gwen
They were annoying
>Gwen's death the most emotional moment in any capeshit to date
I hardly felt shit when she died. Uncle Ben's death in 2002 was more emotional and 2004 had at least 3 Aunt May scenes that were more emotional.

>TASM 2 over anything

lmao

>2002 at the bottom

You need to be 18 to post here.

>>84813190
Some movies are made for more reasons than just money, though, and some of them even have something other than money as the top priority.

>>84813077
If that's the case they should have allowed Peter have a selfish moment. One that would teach him that his actions have real consequences.
Not that Tony Stark eager to join the Avengers bullshit.

That was cheap as fuck. If Marvel thought that Tony is a good proxy for Uncle Ben then shame on them.

>>84813272
Can we stop pretending TASM is better than anything but TASM 2? Uncle Ben dying because chocolate milk alone makes it worse than Spiderman 3.

>>84813297
shill harder

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>>84813125
>Raimi's Spider-Man wasn't made to make money.

Yeah I'm sure them being some of the most costly Hollywood movies ever made was simply because of the love of filmmaking.

>>84813335
Literally 3/4 of the plot is about Peter selfishly jumping the gun on his hero antics. Tony is the opposite of an Uncle Ben replacement, he's a terrible mentor.

Spider-Man 2 > Spider-Man > Spider-Man 3 > Spider-Man: Homecoming >= The Amazing Spider-Man

I still haven't seen TASM2.

>>84804631
SM3 sucked but it wasn't as bad as The Amazing Spider-Man.

>>84813426
Good list. TASM2 would be in the last spot, I shit you not

>>84813371
I didn't say that. Try again.
Also, see>>84813333

>>84813310
Well over 18 faggot, how about you take off le nostalgia glasses and take the Macy Gray poster out of your room and realize that the first Spiderman, really all the raimi films, are just too campy to stand the test of time and have felt dated since only a few years after their release. Really outside of JJJ and Harry the films are trash. Tobey is and always was a terrible Spiderman. S2 gets a pass because it's tightly plotted and if you ignore the other 2 movies you can forgive the whole science gone wrong split personality bad guy that is the MO of each bad guy in each movie.

To the people who unironically think this is the best Spider-Man movie...Why? This looked and felt like an MTV Original Movie. It wasn't BAD, but nothing jumps out as particularly memorable. There was no emotion, no depth of character, nothing that was visually compelling. There was nothing cinematic about this movie. It was competent, but nothing captivated me.

It was like oatmeal. I don't hate oatmeal, I usually don't complain if oatmeal is served; but I'm probably not going out to order oatmeal at a restaurant. I can't remember the BEST bowl of oatmeal I've ever had. Oatmeal is just oatmeal. They should really change the name of these movies to the Oatmeal Cinematic Universe.

>>84813413
The thing is being eager to be a hero isn't exactly selfish. Naive and idealistic maybe but in the end he's still trying to do good. They should have allowed Peter to make a bad decision. Like if he went to the party and made a Spidey appearance. Then then next day he sees the news and someone was killed or terribly injured because he didn't chase after the blast he saw.

Peter always making the right decisions at the crossroads without any exploration of what allows him to do the selfless thing is vexing.

>>84804543
I agree with 1/6th of your list

1.Spider-Man 2 (also counting 2.1/Director's Cut)
2.Homecoming
3.Spider-Man
4.Spider-Man 3
5.Amazing 1
6.Amazing 2

If you don't think Spider-Man 2 was the best exploration of the co-existence between Peter and his alter ego, you need to fuck yourself with an old push mower. Not only that, but Octavius was perfectly presented as "this is what would happen to Peter if he lost everything and everyone he loved"

>>84813556
>he doesn't think the rubble lifting scene was spidey kino
opinion discarded

>>84813548
lmao

>Tobey is a terrible Spiderman

According to who, faggot? The comic book autist who thinks "not enough like the comics" is an acceptable film criticism?

>>84813515
Spider-Man 3 is like the most expensive production ever made, only beaten by Pirates iirc.

Money was always the top priority faggot, stop deluding yourself otherwise.

>>84813601
Everything about going to chase the Vulture instead of going to the academic-thon was the wrong decision. Yeah if he hadn't, he wouldn't have known that Vulture would be making an arms deal on the boat, but that would have gotten shut down by the FBI regardless.

>>84813640
What was kino about it? Honestly I'm asking. Did you think he was any danger? What was at stake if he failed? Vulture gets away with Thor's magic belt? Spider-Man can't impress Tony Stark? Literally who gives a shit? What was compelling about it at all? What made it pop for you? Was it the unnecessary voice over?

>>84813426
I just watched TASM2 yesterday. It's a clusterfuck that feels like a midseason episode of a TV show.

>>84813694
not that anon, but for a lot of his scenes as Parker in SM1 Toby just stands there like an autist with an expressionless face without saying anything
I'll just never understand why he's considered a good actor

>>84813721
Are you serious? Chasing after the vulture was the 'right' decision. He sacrificed his opportunity to score points with Liz and instead chose to pursue the villain that was selling alien powered weapons in his neighborhood. Same weapon that fried his neighborhood bodega and almost killed the owner.

>>84813814
Maguire and Dunst both suck massive cock, literally charismatic black holes.

How they could be so terrible when the supporting cast is so amazing is one of lives greatest mysteries.

>>84813756
It was a great visual metaphor for Spidey's maturing and coming of age. The progression from helplessly laying there stuck and crying like a kid to finding his inner strength by calling out the spider MAN within so he can get up was nice and symbolic.

Also, the fact that you think small stakes are a bad thing is what makes you a pleb.

I'm not a comic book nerd but I thought Spider-Man's whole deal was he didn't want to be an avenger? He just did his own thing. Is him wanting to join new?

>>84813469
>>84813766
Is it worth watching just to see how bad it really is? Will I be able to laugh at it?

>>84813694
>>84813814
That's certainly part of it. He's a joyless shit with 0 charisma. He's a prick in the third film, a lovable loser at best in the second film(again due to tight plotting, pacing, and music), and a dull void in the first film. Any scene with his mask on is awful because he's either silent or spouting a really bad pun. Any scene without his mask on his awful because Tobey Maguire is shit.

>>84813908
No, it wasn't the right decision. He bailed on his commitments to his friends and workmates, put them all in mortal danger by bringing along hazardous alien material instead of keeping it secured, and ultimately the only outcome of these actions was interfering with the operations of his boss, which would have caught the villain if Peter hadn't shown up to fuck up their master villain-catching plan. The entire movie would have ended on the boat, with Vulture being caught, if Peter had stayed in the hotel and went to compete like he promised. He only went because he felt that Stark wasn't taking him seriously. Stark was taking him seriously, and Stark was in the wrong because he didn't communicate this more effectively. But that doesn't change the fact that these were actions that Peter undertook because he felt underappreciated and wanted to prove himself outside the scope of his responsibilities.

>>84813756
>every superhero movie has to have some apocalyptic, world-ending conflict

I thought it was refreshing having a low level villain again. The movie is about Spiderman just learning to be a superhero. He's 16 for chrissake.

>>84813949
They adress this in the movie.

In fact it's like the biggest thing about Peter's character development.

>>84813711
>money is always the top priority
It wasn't with the first 2 Spiderman movies. It definitely was for both TASMs and Homecoming though. If the studios didn't think Spiderman movies had the potential to make lots of money they would have stopped making them years ago.
>>84813814
>he just stands there like an autist

It's almost like he's a loser nerd. Yeah, he isn't the best actor in them, but those movies have other actors in them that pick up his slack and then some. Dafoe is God tier, Molina is God tier, Rosemarry Harris is God tier, Franco does a pretty good job, and there are a dozen colorful minor characters in each one, right down to Emily Deschenel as the Secretary and Lucy Lawless as the punk girl who thinks Spiderman is hot. Also, as Spiderman Tobey does just fine unless you're one of those "NOT LIKE MUH COMICS HE DOESN'T QUIP ENOUGH" autists.

>>84808043
>>84808124
I may have reverse-nostalgia-glasses on because I saw SM3 as a late teen when I was an obnoxious venomfag, but I distinctly remember people I know sharing totally different complaints with the movie than those, mostly that it felt like a corny, directionless mess.

Having three villains was absurdly busy, and it rushed through its plot points. The introduction of the symbiote via random meteor instead of being brought back the astronaut rival MJ boyfriend from SM2 was a glaring omission. The rewriting of Uncle Ben's death with Sandman was haphazard. It also felt like they were incapable of creating any kind of emotional impact in Sandman's story without over-reliance on the largely resolved Uncle Ben death. They dug him up to insert drama in a new villain's story.

Flying skateboard Harry Goblin was dumb, and his amnesia plot was dumber. The introduction of Gwen as a Veronica to MJ's Betty character was dumber. Overall the bad soap opera elements that made SM1&2 endearing were dialed up and played too straight in SM3.

>>84813955
It's not bad in a funny way. It tries to fit too much into one movie, and it all feels underdeveloped.

>>84813913
>>84813957

Disagree. I don't know what your problem is but they aren't that painful to watch. MJ is the nice hot girl and Peter is lovable dork who loves her. Maybe you find that to be terrible but I don't.

>>84813955
You should. I laughed my ass off at how bad it was, but then again I found myself in a near coma like state during some scenes.

>>84814261
What is worse: TASM2 or BvS?

>>84814105
>It's almost like he's a loser nerd.
No. He's just shit. The 'loser nerd' thing is done well by Tom Holland; he stutters, shakes and avoids eye contact when talking to a girl, he gets excited for doing nerd shit like building a lego death star, he gets intimidated by his villains etc. Maguire's performance is just stone cold in comparison and fails to convey emotion because he either doesn't do it at all or does it unnaturally (like when he gets angry at ben or that meme scene where he sobs)

>>84814105
>It wasn't with the first 2 Spiderman movies.

Jesus fuck dude take off the rose-tinted glasses.

Hollywood was built on the idea of making money, every big release out of Hollywood is about making money. You talk as if Raimi's two first Spider-Man movies where some kind of cute indie flicks when massive fucking blockbusters like Superman, Batman and X-men came beforehand.

Superhero movies have been massive box office draws for decades.

>>84813955
Not even that. Probably one of the worst movies I've seen

>>84814320
TASM 2. BvS was bad but TASM 2 is literally Batman and Robin tier. So bad it's funny.

>>84814105

Yeah, I'm autistic because I want one of the key defining characteristics of the character to be kept intact. Let me guess, you're first in line for The Dark Tower too and anyone who isn't is an autist. Spiderman is literally deadpool before deadpool existed. He doesn't shut up. And considering every Spiderman film since the Raimi films has made sure to have a talkative, quippy spiderman, you best get used to it nigger.

>>84814320
Obviously TASM2, BvS was kino.

>>84814327
>Lego Death Star
You mean this thing?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/LEGO-Star-Wars-Death-Star-75159/53733588?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1145&adid=22222222227050606619&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=146270226681&wl4=pla-261120236530&wl5=9060006&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112354481&wl11=online&wl12=53733588&wl13=&veh=sem

What 15 year old kid has the cash flow to casually drop $500 on a lego set?

>>84814370
>I'm autistic because I want one of the key defining characteristics of the character to be kept intact.
I bet you also defend nuFlash

>>84814320
Trick question, TASM2 is shit and BvS is good

>>84814327
Every trait you described in Tom Holland's version of the character is cancer. Thanks for proving my point.
>>84814344
>Unironically saying "rose tinted"

>>84814344
Yeah but before Disney got involved they were able to make them good. Disney has like 100 different hands in the mess of movies they put out because it's more about pandering to get as many people as possible to see it. The first Spider-Man movies were pg13 but they didn't feel like children's movies at all. Same with the first iron man.

>>84814417
You have trouble with reading comprehension you fucking dipshit? Why would I defend character changes when I"m attacking a character change fuckstick?

>>84814435
they're the traits of a shy nerdy kid, which is exactly what spider man's supposed to be, stan lee designed him that way so that his audience could resonate with the character
if you don't like this you probably don't really like spider man

>>84804731
This list is undeniably, objectively right

>>84814435
>I want Peter Parker to be the outcast nerd but I don't want him to have traits of the outcast like being awkward around girls or having socially unpopular hobbies and shit
Sorry that he's not Spider-Chad

>>84814370
>I'm autistic because I want Spiderman, the hero of the movie, to literally be unlikable by having him spout bad quips every 5 seconds

Yep. Maybe it's cute and funny when he does it in your picture books, but it's gay as fuck in a live action movie.

>>84814468
Calm down you sperglord

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>Stark tech suit
>hacked by 15 year old fat asian kid

Plothole?

>>84814391
It's not for kids. I don't fuck with them anymore but legos were therapeutic af for me. Just following directions and making a cool toy in the end was the shit.

Also why don't we get joy from playing with toys anymore? I used to be able to play with legos for hours on end. Making up stories in my head. Why does that change?

LMAO at people defending Raimi movies while shitting all over TASM 2 in the same sentence. Every single shitty thing in that movie feels like it wants to be in a Raimi film. By far the worst parts are the villians which are campy over the top Raimi and Burton tier shit all the way. Garfield and Stone are fantastic, so they aren't the problem. The suit is perfect. No, it's the childish writing and cartoon villians that would be right at home in your precious original Spiderman trilogy.

>Everyone hating on Amazing
I fuckin hate the people who wrote the script... I just saw Amazing 1 & 2 not so long ago, and they are great in every aspect except for Spidermans & Goblins characters.

Why go for the dark and edge - no one understands my pain faggtory that ruined SM3, couldn't you just go for the loveable oaf that worked so well?

I mean the combat, the action, the graphics are all top notch in Amazing.

>>84814544
>completely fail at reading
>get called out on being a fucking idiot
>HURR DURR CALM DOWN WAS JK LOL SPERG

>>84814557
Yeah right on! And sonic doesn't have blue arms!!!

>>84814605
Tell me what you think of nuFlash first

>>84814519
>muh comics argument again

It's getting tiresome at this point honestly.

>>84814531
Tobey's Peter is awkward around girls though and he does have socially unpopular hobbies. In the first movie you can see model rocketships and other shit in his bedroom. Also he's dirt poor in the second movie and barely able to live in an apartment so he doesn't have the money for hobbies.

>>84814653
He's great in that movie about the hotel.

>>84814059
You can say that in hindsight when you know now that Stark was indeed paying attention to the arms deal.

All we had prior to that was happy ignoring Peter's calls and the empty suit saving Peter. What he did, chasing after the vulture was the right thing to do since Tony didn't appear to be caring. Even if Vulture was a tough enemy for him.

Also he wasn't bailing out on his friend, his friend was in on it. And going to the decathlon was an excuse in the first place to chase after vulture. Peter in fact made the right decision, a naive and eager decision but the right one nonetheless.
He sacrificed getting close to his crush by keeping not joining the team for ensuring the safety of his neighborhood.

All that Stark stuff, you're just saying in hindsight.

>>84814605
Calm down, sperglord.
>>84814557
>Implying Raimi's and Webb's movies can even be compared in quality

>>84814547
Personally, I don't think so. I think Tony underestimated Peter and teens in general, especially since these smart kids into tech.

It's like a normal parent giving a normal teen a computer with a parental lock on it. The teen won't take too long to get around that shit.

>>84814647
Refute it.

Oh wait, you literally can't.

>>84814464
>Yeah but before Disney got involved they were able to make them good.

Speak for yourself, I thought Homecoming was great because it feels noticeably different from the rest of the MCU. I generally think MCU movies are mediocre and think Avengers 1 sucks ass but I loved this movie.

>>84814731
Yeah but we're talking about his role in the new Spiderman movie

>>84814557
TASM2 is shit because the hero is cringe as fuck, but not in a nerdy kind of way but in a 2kool4school look at me kind of way.

Look at the scene where you talks to Gwen about her dad or right before the fight with Electro, its just a cringe fest.

>>84813931
>Also, the fact that you think small stakes are a bad thing is what makes you a pleb.
>>84814061
>every superhero movie has to have some apocalyptic, world-ending conflict

That's not what I'm saying. I don't need a big blue laser being shot into the sky, but I do think this movie had a problem with stakes. What this movie lacks was any REAL act of heroic defiance or sacrifice. And I'm not talking about defying Tony Stark's wishes, or missing the school dance (that's a minor inconvenience and has no emotional resonance, at least for me, anyway).

What I'm talking about is a moment where the hero is willing to actually lay down his life, and everything in it that matters, to save someone. The train scene in Spider-Man 2 is the perfect example of that. In that moment, Spider-Man knows this act could very well kill him, the train almost rips him in half. He's lost his mask, and knows that even if he does succeed, everything he worked for is done because his identity will be revealed to the world, and he does it anyway. Then, in their own act of defiance, the people he saves protect him in return. It was a powerful scene. It made me feel genuine emotion. NOTHING so resonant was attempted in this movie. They had ample opportunity, but the only emotion Marvel movies ever attempt to illicit is laughter.

They had ample opportunity to do it, but this movie wasn't about Spider-Man protecting people, it was about Spider-Man proving he was good enough to be an Avenger and obnoxious pratfalls.

>>84814767
You're right

TASM
>better actors
>better writing
>better sfx
>better score
>more faithful to source material

Raimi
>black hole of charisma leads
>shit tier writing
>super campy
>aged horribly
>macy gray soundtrack

You're right man, no comparison.

>>84810691
lol thats literally the worst one, next level bait right here good job anon
>>84810723
this

>>84814924
>muh comics argument again

Your bait sucks

>>84814771
I could but I'm entertained more by your sperging over comic book movies

Pros:
- Good acting by Keaton
- Holland was an ok Parker and spidey
- Vulture was ok, but nothing special

Cons:
- Shit tier action scenes
- Even worse quipfest than the previous capeshits
- Zero serious moments, jokes literally every 2 minutes
- Too much suit, spidey was literally using the shitty suit for 80% of the movie and was looking through walls and eavesdropping on people. Too much stark technology just meh
- New mary jane and flash thompson literally vomit inducing and not because of race but because they were shit characters
- Too much avengers bullshit, doesn't feel like a movie that will be recognized on its own.
- RDJ phoning his role in like usual
- Just a weak plot overall
- Peter is supposed to be 15 but he looks like a 22 year old.

My main problem was that it was just another capeshit blockbuster, no memorable moments, no tension and no emotion.

>>84814674
So what's your argument? That being faithful to the comics when portraying Peter's character is a bad thing to do? I don't even care about that when it comes to Raimi's films, Maguire's problem is that he doesn't have any charisma whatsoever and is terrible and conveying emotion, to the point where he doesn't even seem shy, just plain autistic. Still better than Spider Chad though

>>84814773
it's funny because marvel probably spewed out about 20 flicks by now and only about 4-5 of them are actually good/memorable

>>84815063
>Vulture was OK, nothing special
Get the fuck out of here, he's the best capeshit villain in years.

>>84804543
this isnt even close

1. Spider Man 2
2. Spider Man
3. Spider Man: Homecoming
4. Spider Man 3
5. The Amazing Spider Man 2
6. The Amazing Spider Man

>>84815050
So you can't refute it, got it.

>>84815049
see
>>84815114
he's actually willing to engage with your stupidity.

>>84815179
Wtf how did you copy my exact opinions

>>84815114
My argument is that I don't care how "accurate" the comic book autists think it is. It's accurate enough for me and it shouldn't be totally accurate anyway. If I think it's a good movie, I think it's a good movie. It's not like they race bent anyone for no reason.
>>84815184
3/10. Tired meme retort.

>>84815218
It quite simply doesn't get any stupider than "muh comics" anon.

I once watched spider man with Tony. I think it was the spider octopuses finger. I inserted the UMD into the PSP the only one I did and figured out the new joy stick moves

>>84815353
>if i think something, I think it!

Confirmed for not being able to back up literally any thought you ever have. You should check out religion, you'll fit right in

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>>84815535
>you should check out religion, you'll fit right in

>>84815598
meme all you want faggot, your true colors have shown and you still haven't refuted a single thing

>>84805407

And the new one has a bunch of forced jokes and meta humor. The difference is that the old one had real emotion to it. And was a passion project like everything superheroes before the MCU.

>>84813009
>for over 2 decades
gtfo underage

>>84815598
>>84815353
>>84815050
>>84814647

Worse than a BLM protestor desu

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>>84815659
>your true colors have shown

>>84815710
You're a gay

>>84815120
>"just an average working class man!"
>no second thought after blowing his employee to atoms

>>84806625
>Homecoming was way more clever and nuanced

>le quips are clever

>>84815120
I mean, this might actually be true, but the bar hasn't been terribly high in a very long time. Keaton certainly elevated the material, but there really wasn't anything special about the character.

>>84815873
>>84815917
Still waiting

>>84804843
I left as soon as the credits started. Fuck the Ramones, and fuck anyone that likes them.

>>84806584

Acting like Raimi Spider-Man didn't have GOAT original songs on the soundtrack

>>84816161
There's nothing to refute. They are just terrible opinions. I can't argue your bad taste

>>84814557
>>84814647
>>84814771
>refute it
>>84815050
>I could but
>>84816387

Ah, so you literally can't refute it. As I thought. Thanks!

>>84816548
lmao

>>84816548
Kek wrecked

>>84816548
Not even the same anon you mongoloid lol

>>84807236

End credits

>>84816688
If you jumped into that dumbass's way then I extend you the same offer, refute the initial post or gtfo. >>84814557

>>84807899

I think a lot of it is still solid. I think, for instance, the scene where Peter flat out decks Mary Jane is great. But it's forgotten because all you can think of is the bad dancing.

A little more of an aggressive Peter, no dancing finger guns, and the symbiote fucks off after Peter separates from it and it would still be one of the best capeshit movies

still