>it only took 9 years for the MCU to finally get a good villain

Is it worth seeing for him?

>>84755182

I know, right? Kurt Russell really nailed it.

>>84755182
I'm more happy to see Keaton back in action and in top form. Truly the redemption of Keaton

>Batman
>Birdman
>Vulture

>having an acting range limited to flying animals

Shit actor.

>>84755197
literally the best part of the flick

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>>84755292

>mfw he opened the front door

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>villain

>>84755197
Not only is his character pretty good, his suit is badass

I don't understand why he says they're not on the level of the Avengers when that shitter Falcon is an Avenger and Keaton's suit is 10x better than that piece of shit.

>>84755663
That was actually something I thought about too. Fucking vulture could wreck falcon when you compare what they were packing.

didnt die
was honestly fucking shocked, sinister six here we come!

>>84755782
but falcon is packing some prime BBC, how can keaton even compete?

>>84755292
Pepper Potts was 1000% better

>>84755182
>villain

He's just arming the populace. How the fuck else are people supposed to defend themselves when loki attacks?

>>84755663

Falcon is also a war hero whereas Adrian is a glorified garbage man.

>>84755663
>>84755782
Vulture has little to no combat training(you can see this in his battle with spidy, he was just flying around). Falcon has actual combat skills and uses the wings to enhance that.
Vultures suit is definitely more impressive but his own lack of training puts him below Falcon.

hydra org is a pretty good antagonist

>>84755888
Vulture's suit was also designed to get in and out unnoticed, rather than straight combat. He never gets into a fist fight with people, he always swoops in unnoticed and hits/grabs them from behind.

>>84755843
Just ignore the man he vaporized.

>>84755963
It was an accident.

>>84755963
That was a legitimate mistake. Spiderman has a higher body count in this film, and Tony Stark is making "lethal" suits and distributing them to teenagers.

>>84755976
He clearly meant to kill him so that he couldn't talk. He just thought he was using a different gun to do it.

He looks like the only good part of the movie but it's still Marvel trash. No way does this live up to the first three.

I'll see Apes instead.

I skipped a few mcu movies,which one is he in?

>>84755998
He said he thought it was a gravity gun he's probably just going to have them float in the air and intimidate him into not talking or some shit

>>84755182
>Marvel

>>84756171
Martha?

>>84755182
to be fair to marvel they don't have access to some of their best villains (Dr Doom, Magneto and Norman Osborn may come soon) they blew past Red Skull and Ultron but i feel they can come back adn those two aren't really too deep so don't expect much. loki isn't too serious and i enjoy him. the iron man villians, yellow jacket and mike mads really were there to serve the purpose of character growth. the worst so far is ronan and those bloodelves its just a bad guy to get beat up.

>>84756029
I like Spider-Man 3. I'll start there. I think it's a decent movie, better than the ASM films for sure.

Homecoming is better than SM3, better than SM1 at some things while being worse at others, and obviously not up to SM2 on any level. I watched SM2 earlier today just to freshly compare the two, and its a slam dunk for Raimi. The original Spider-Man doesn't *quite* hold up to the same level, and so if someone told me they liked Homecoming more I would probably disagree, but wouldn't feel the need to chemically castrate them.

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>>84755811
His wife is satisfied

>>84755182

How long will it take for the DCEU to have a non shit villain?

>>84755182
So why is Disney so shit at giving these films good villain characterizations?

>>84755989
Spidey didnt kill anybody.

>>84755998
Nope.

>>84756739
Ding ding ding, motherfucker.

>>84756812
Oh, you didn't hear? See, Marvel heroes are characters; they have personalities. So when peeps go out to see Marvel movies, they are invested in the main character, and this is why Marvel does so well with female audiences. DC on the otherhand doesn't have characters with personalities. DC only does archetypes. They have no more inside than Dick Tracy. So in their history of movies, the bad guy is always the engine that makes it run, with the possible exception of the Donner stuff. All clear?

Why did it take Michael Keaton so long to get off his ass and stop sleeping through his roles?

>>84756840
He slammed a plane into a tower on coney island, which then fell onto the crowded street below. He's a fucking mass murderer.

>>84755197
There´s a cam rip online now, worth a watch there

>>84755888
>Vulture has little to no combat training
And Falcon got assblasted by a rookie Ant-Man.

>>84755837
I'd pepper her pots, if you know what Raimi meant by this.

>>84757216
No it didn't. Spidey saved the day and missed the park. Thank God. And thanks, Spidey Man!

>>84757536
Thanks Iron Man!

>>84757583
Iron Man didn't show up for that one, dum dum.

>>84756973
So basically they won't make villians with personality because women just want to see more screen time of Robert Downey Jr. playing himself?

Couldn't they just get more meme actors to play themselves as villains?

>>84755182
>>84755197
>>84755214
>>84755292
>>84756739
Marvelpajeets on shill overdrive right now.

He was still a shit villain.

>>84757230
Fuck that I ain't poor, if I'm seeing it it's either theater or 1080p torrent

>>84755182
I'm going to get flack for this, but Keaton's done a better job of acting in other films. While his overall performance was pretty good, the part where he went monologue mode with a hand webbed to the workbench felt phoned in.
I liked the character though and the script for it. I emphasized with his being a New Yorker that made moderate cash contracting rough workers to do clean up and salvage, and not seeing a real future from it. All of the sudden, Alien salvage all over the city. The time for a big break, he has the money spent already in his mind, mostly for his family...
Then Stark fucks it for him. And it made SENSE. He was robbed of the salvage score that would have legit made him millions, he did everything legally, and the system screwed him.

Best MCU villain build-up ever.

I remember when Civil War came out people said Zemo was Marvel's first good villian, when Guardians 2 came out people said Ego was Marvel's first good villian, now people are saying Vulture was Marvel's first good villian

>>84758367
>the part where he went monologue mode with a hand webbed to the workbench felt phoned in.
I think that was kind of the point, he wasn't sincere, he was just talking shit to buy time for his suit.

>even C-tier Spidey villains are better than any other Marvel villains outside of Xmen/FF

Feels good to be back lads.

>>84755837
she looked hot as fuck at the end of spiderman

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Post yfw he opens the front door

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>>84758708

Honestly the only good thing about this movie are Vulture and Spidey, the rest is just garbage.

He was scary and spot on, Tom Holland played very well his role on scenes with him I like their dinamic it made me feel like Spidey was really in danger [Specially because he never actuall beats him]

The rest is just dissapointing, so much unnecesary comedy even for a Spiderman movie, and the aunt May jokes really got to my nerves, they kinda want to brush it off as funny but to me it still sucks that May is a hottie.

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>>84758708

>>84758791
>but to me it still sucks that May is a hottie.
as a spiderman fan since I was a kid, I hate when movies depart from the core basics of the comics (I still REEEEEEE pretty hard at the raimi web shooters), this change is the only one that makes sense. Who the fuck has a 70 year old aunt as a teenager?

>>84758708
The audience in my cinema let out an audible "Ohhhh!" when it happened.

>sympathetic villain
>badass as fuck vulture suit with clutching talons and sword feathers and shit
>not another cliche imma rule/destroy da werld cliche
>doesn't die in the debut film like every other god damn spiderman villain
>honorabru enough to protect Peter's identity from prison psychos after being saved
>that pro-wrestling joke
He was gr8 m8

>>84755262
Go watch the night shift and clean and sober and my life then you fucking ass faggot.

>>84758858
>Who the fuck has a 70 year old aunt as a teenager?
And with that I instantly forgive this change and the movie became just a little bit better

>>84758882
Fucking Sony has got me after this with their Sinister Six shill plans

>based Vulture
>Shocker nigga
>that dude from BCS as Scorpion

And they all have a solid fucking reason to hate Spider-Man already. I am hype, but I hope Shocker and Scorpion get their full on suits like Vulture did. This shit felt legit like the 90's Spidey cartoon and I loved it.

>>84755205

kek

>>84758858
>Who the fuck has a 70 year old aunt as a teenager?

Peter Parker?

>>84758903

I'll add Pacific Heights and Desperate Measures to that list. Michael Keaton is a god-tier villain actor.

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>>84755837
Pic related is much better than Potts

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>>84758708

>>84759016
this 1000000000%

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>>84758966
>And they all have a solid fucking reason to hate Spider-Man already
Wait was Scorpion in the MCU at any point before that scene?

>>84759135
none of the villains were

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>>84759135
He was a thug on the ferry scene.

I just hope they don't go lazy and make them all come out of alien technology.

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>>84755989
>and Tony Stark is making "lethal" suits and distributing them to teenagers.
all perfectly in line with Disney's narrative of turning Tony Stark into a subversive tool of the Jews

>>84757216
The plane crashed on a fucking empty beach in the middle of the night

>>84755182
>Be spiderman
>web most dangerous nemesis left hand
>do jack shit about right hand
>get fucked.

>>84755837
>Pepper Potts was 1000% better
ew.

How about something that isn't old enough to be a grandmother?

>>84756180
WHYDIDYOUSAYTHATNAME!!!!! ;_;

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But he was easily the weakest part of this very weak movie

>>84758216
>if I'm seeing it it's either theater
Please don't give this awful movie more money

>>84755182
I was sooo fucking happy by the fact they didn't kill off The Vulture. Also fucking loved that instead of murdering his villain or letting him die, Spider-Man saved his life. Even after he threatened to murder his whole everyone he loves, Spidey still saved him. I loved it.

>>84757216
Depending if it was after twelve, Coney Island is closed. I'm sure if it was crowded you would have heard audible screams.

>>84759557
I was about to REEE when the glider was blowing up because it would've been typical MCU bullshit to kill him off. Was happily surprised that they didn't, and it led to one of the coolest post credits scenes in the whole series IMO.

>>84755182
>L-Loki wasn't a good villain I swear, n-now if o-only Marvel would get on Jared Leto's level!

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>>84759668
>n-now if o-only Marvel would get on Jared Leto's level!

>>84755837
>>84759444

And it's not a shameless scamming bitch.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6pfrT3bHpM

>>84759668
We don't mention Leto's Joker around these parts, now fuck off!

>>84759557
I also lked the mid credits scene where Gargern (future Scorpion) asked vulture if he knew Spider man's identity and he denied it.

>>84759557
AND THEN HE PROTECTED PETER FROM THE OTHER VILLAINS BY KEEPING HIS IDENTITY SECRET BECAUSE HE SAVED HIS LIFE![/SPOILER] It was so refreshing to see a villain who isn't just a monster. That's why Ock was so good in 2

>>84759789
we don't know if he did that to save his life or to keep it for himself.

>>84759644
YES. I was expecting the typical "HAHA IT'S FINALLY MINE!" followed by death. But seeing Peter to save Adrian made me a bit emotional because you never see a hero in capeshit try to save the villain AND succeed. And Yes, the post credit scenes were also good. Loved that Adrian has built somewhat of a admiration/respect for Spider-man because of Spidey saved his daughter and his own life. Chooses not to reveal his identity. I'm a sucker for that trope.

>>84759789
I think he might be saving that information to stay valuable and have something to offer to other villains now that his suit and organization are gone.

Crossing my fingers for sinister six.

>>84759859
It's blatantly obvious that he did it to protect Peter because Peter is a good kid.

>>84760013
that didn't stop him from dropping a building on him. Like I said, we don't know if he was protecting him or saving him for himself...which is more likely the case? A vulture spooderman team up or a vulture spiderman rematch?

>>84755852
>Falcon is also a war hero
He was also para-rescue. That's what the Falcon wins were use for while he served. That means he probably has some advanced first-aid/basic medical training. Which is something none of the other Avengers have been implied to have.

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>>84755182
>Peter actually scared in the rubble
>Vulture respecting Peter
>the green light mirroring the way Vulture's suit looks from inside
>Peter passing time in the vault
>music grows more grandiose over time as Peter learns how to be a hero
>the last after credits
I always bitch about how Marvel is forgettable as fuck most of the time and expected only the blandest going in. This was so much better than it needed to be, so happy I saw it. I unironically think it's pretty much better than Raimi's 2 too, pls no bully.

>>84755536

A few women in the crowd at my showing gasped at that

>>84758858
>what is a great aunt

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>>84760450
I agree with you. This one sets the standard.

why does the jacket looks so goofy on keaton?
anyway it's nice since it gives the old vulture look.
Him and yellowjacket look really nice.

>>84755182
Everything good about the character was basically cribbed from Green Goblin in Raimi's films. Keaton was kinda phoning it in. Also, the scene where he accidentally kills the henchman because he used the wrong ray gun was good for a laugh, but really should have also been a moment of character development for him. Instead of a moment of simultaneous guilt and fascination over knowing he's killed a man, perfect for developing into a multi-dimensional villain character, it's just this subversive little "oops!" gag.

>>84760450
>actually scared in the rubble
I thought the movie was kinda average plot-wise, but him actually legit screaming and crying because no one was gonna help him got to me. Then he sees the mask and his face reflection and he starts lifting it up, it actually felt earned. Pleasant fucking surprise.

>>84755262
Just because you only watch capeshit and terrible "le deep" reddit their movies doesn't diminish him as an actor

>>84757372

But anon, Ant-Man would effortlessly fuck up Vulture too. Ant-Man is one of the OG Avengers in the comics ffs

>>84761627

This. Ant-Man's advantage is that he's constantly underestimated. By the time you realize he's onto you, your shit's already half-fucked.

how could a garbageman like the vulture afford such a house where he was living with his disgusting negro wife and their joke of a half-nignog daughter?

they must have been living on US welfare

>>84755182
>that audible gasp in the theater when he opened the door for prom

normies are fucking retarded. i chuckled slightly because it caught me off guard but I didn't fucking gasp

>>84761961

People who own garbage companies are fucking loaded, the is a reason the mafia use them to launder money.

>>84758858

Spider-Man was always supposed to have organic webbing but couldn't due to some comic code at the time. Web-shooters were the workaround. They were never the original vision. Fuck yourself and your acceptance of the new shitty Aunt May.

Best Spidey tho by far. Holland killed it.

>>84761961

The guy was able to repurpose alien tech to be weaponized. I'm sure he could think of ways to make ends meet.

>>84762087

Also this. There's generally money to be made in doing the work that no one wants to do.

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>implying

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>>84758708

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>>84763028
>implying too
It's really not their fault that Marvel uses their character and never use them again. IMO Red Skull, Abo and this guy were perfect.

>>84758708
That was a great twist

>>84755182
the fuck? is that keaton as sabretooth?

Are these your standards capeshits? Its a competently average movie full of tired tropes and characters made by committee and some of you faggots actually think it can come close to Raimi´s Spiderman?

>>84755262
Watch Clean and Sober and see one of the finest non-flying animal performances ever.

>>84758708
So I want to know, what's this all about?
Haven't seen the movie and probably won't either.
I don't give a fuck about spoilers so go ahead and tell me

Daily reminder that he impregnated Aunt May in her prime

>>84758668
>c-tier
Spiderman is the the only one that can match batman in the popularity and variety of supervillains

>>84763592
You could just read the synopsis instead of writing this autistic comment, but to your question:
Keaton turns out to be the father of peter's prom date.

>>84755182
>Who would have thought giving a little focus, character and connection to the main hero would create an interesting and well developed villain!
well they did it the previous film so

Not including the television series:
1. Loki
2. Obadiah Stane / Iron Monger
3. Adrian Toomes / Vulture
4. Ultron
5. Darren Cross / Yellowjacket
6. Emil Blonsky / Abomination
7. Bucky Barnes / Winter Soldier
8. Tony Stark / Iron Man
9. Ego
10. Kaecilius
11. Johann Schmidt / Red Skull
12. Ivan Vanko / Whiplash
13. Ronan the Accuser
14. Aldrich Killian
15. Malekith

>>84761961
>im too dumb to realize how the bad guy got his money

>>84762047
>normies are fucking retarded. i chuckled slightly because it caught me off guard but I didn't fucking gasp

Did you take a sip of your Starbucks too, Elliot?

>>84757230
link?

>>84763399
>red skull sucked into the portal opened by the cosmic cube
>this is never expanded upon ever again
>red skull will never be back
>>the greatest villain will never be back

What's so good about him? Other than typical Keaton charisma?

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THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT WAS BUILT BY SLAVES

FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

FUCK TRUMP

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>>84765081
nevermind I found it

>>84755292
um, it's actually cinema not a flick

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I like the The Vulture's catch phrase "Excuse me?" and the way he smiled and looked at the sign when he was found by the police

Also Misses Vulture is bleached.com in real life

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>>84755182
I didn't realize Kraven was the villain.

>>84760682
>him actually legit screaming and crying because no one was gonna help him got to me
That was actually kind of hard to watch, but it was such a great scene. Seeing the cocky hero made helpless and reduced to a scared kid despite his godly strength really tugged at the ol' heartstrings.

>>84765135
>built by slaves
Only the bottom part

>>84765103
You can thank Hugo Weaving for that. There was a plan to have Red Skull appear again, but Hugo pulled a Natalie Portman and refused to come back

>>84765030
>loki
>good

I want tumblr to leave

Quite honestly my favourite thing about the film was the homages it made and also just how fucking happy marvel clearly was to have Spider-man back under some degree of its control.

>>84768680
I don't use Tumblr, and Tom Hiddleston was absolutely fantastic in the first Thor film.

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Tom is great too.

his personality actually match the comic

not moody Andrew or bland Tobey

and THAT scene was amazing.

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>>84758708
>the entire theatre's face when

There was such an audible gasp. It was insane. The tension in the cinema was immense.

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>>84764137
this sound pretty lame in a text but damn. that car scene was intense

>>84768908
Every scene after the reveal was super intense.

It really slammed into the theatre like a truck; that complete juxtaposition between him just enjoying being a kid and the reveal.

Are The Avengers the baddies?

In Spiderman: Homecoming the gym teacher said "It's government policy I have to show these films" which are basically indoctrination.

Meanwhile, the premise of the film is about working class people getting fucked by the suits, and demonized for trying to make a living. At the very end, the """bad guy""" shows his humanity by not ratting Peter out to Taco.

Just what the fuck is going on.

Every post in this thread is such transparent shilling.

Get a real job, you fucks

>>84765030
You forgot Tony Stark in Civil War.

>>84758708
>white male
>daughter is 100% black

Cuck?

>>84769032
>100% black

You've never seen a 100% black in your life

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>>84769017
>mfw my job is probably higher up and more important than yours
>I still post on /tv/ posting positively about cape shit

I do it for free

>>84769022
>8. Tony Stark / Iron Man

I really, really want a cap of Peter asking that sandwich guy about his daughter.

>>84769047

I'm not sure if it's more pathetic that you felt the need to defend how "high up and important" your job apparently is, or that you don't even have the self-respect to get paid for shilling.

Off yourself.

>>84769032
Or he could've fucked a black woman. Ever thought about this or your mind is too filled with cuck fetish?

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>>84769117
>this literal pleb is unable to comprehend people enjoying things he dislikes
>is asspained someone uses their job as a point of attack when he introduced it as a vector in the conversation

>>84755182
>job is to remove all the shit the battle of new york did in the first avengers
>time to clean-up bo-- fuck off cunts we the government will do this shit
>no more job
>reeeeeeeee i will use this alien tech and sell it as a weapon fuck stark reeeeeeeeeeeeee
good villain alright

>>84768680
>hating a good character just because teenage girls on the internet like him
How insecure are you?

>>84769132
>the woman gene dominates the man gene
Michael Keaton confirmed beta

>>84755182
fucking capeshit

>>84755182
>Who would have thought giving a little focus, character and connection to the main hero would create an interesting and well developed villain!
Like Loki or Ego or Nebula or Winter Soldier

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>>84769164

>>84765030
>>84769022
>Tony was the villain in Civil War
haha its just mind control bro

>>84769164

"My job is higher up and more important than yours" isn't an attack, it's a baseless and completely unverifiable claim that simply reveals how petty and insecure you are. You have no idea what I do, nor can I ever have any idea what you do.

Besides, that is, knowing that you plug shitty kids' movies online without being compensated for your time. Which reveals that you're a sucker.

Why would I want to watch a movie that appeals to petty, insecure suckers? Crap shilling mate. You're hurting ticket sales.

>>84769327
Yeah, villain might be a stretch but he was the clear antagonist.

>>84769366
haha it was just mind control bro sorry about your parents especially your mom who my best friend choked to death lol

>>84755182
Problem is he's the only good thing about the movie.

>>84755182
How Tom Hardy fits into this whole shitshow?

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>>84770191
He's trying to get pozzed and gets infected with a symbiote instead

>>84769235
that's not how genetics work you dumb cuck

>>84769204
he would have gone bankrupt if he didn't.

>>84755182
Jeff Bridges was a good villain in the first Iron Man, only the very last part with this dumb "bigger Iron Man" was shit, else he was really good in this movie.