>Mark Hamill dosen't seem to like The Force Awakens OR

>>84712522
They are not going to be good.

They are still going to make billions of dollars.

JUST

If you combine the purchase of Lucasfilm along with the budgets of these movies and compare that cost to the profits, how many more movies does Disney need to make to break even?

>>84712522
>Episode IX from the director of The Book Of Henry (rated 23% on rotten tomatoes)

You're kidding yourself if you think directors actually matter in these films. They're all designed by committee.

>>84712522
>implying mark hamills opinion matters about anything
>implying carrie fisher brought anything to the franchise other than cocaine
>implying the movie will be a clusterfuck without seeing any previews
>implying a completely unrelated movie score can be used to judge a different movie
fuck off retard star wars isnt your cis white male fantasy escape anymore

>>84712554

Yeah but look at the difference between between Jurassic World and say, Wonder Woman or even Rogue One. A decent director can at least bring something to a tentpole movie, Colin Trevorrow is a fucking hack. He's also writing Episode IX btw.

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Also the "reveals" in TLJ are probably going to turn 90% of people over the age of 15 against Star Wars. Seriously.

Do you think any of those things will stop people from paying to see the movies?

>>84712702

Eventually. After about five years of shitty spin offs there will have to be some decline.

The Disney suits are such hacks they say Carrie Fisher role didn't change in TLJ and that she won't appear in 9 causing them to rewrite. It doesn't make any sense. These fags are full of shit. They wasted the oppurtinity of reuniting the cast in 7 and then pass the torch. Instead they wanted to shoehorn Mary Sue know-it-all and make everyone else losers including the villains.

>>84712522
Where did Mark say this.

I would assume he's on lockdown on saying anything at all about these films.

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>>84712522
IT'S THOSE WHITE SLAVERS, IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT *sobs*

>>84713459

I miss him.

>>84713412
He just talks about how he had disagreements with how his character was depicted in the movie.

>>84713211

Leia dies offscreen in TLJ. It's the only answer.

>>84712542
This unfortunately

>>84713518
It's absolutely awful. She will probably die in the explosion of a ship she was captive in. Then we have a close up on Finn and Rey screaming Nooooooooo. Then Rey beats Kylo's ass again...
John WIlliams music kicks in

>>84712549
Probably 2. It's not only the movies, it's also merchandising and licensing that will grow the coffers at Disney.

>>84713506

He also said it was a "missed opportunity" that Luke and Leia weren't there when Han dies in TFA.

>>84713589
And he's right. What do we care that a negro and a girl go WOOOOAH when Han dies? They knew him for literally half an hour at that point. That scene lacks any real impact

>>84712622
Most soggy bait in history

>>84712549
the rule of thumb says you need to make the double of the budget to break even.
tfa had a budget of 300 million, so it needed 600 million to break even.
lucas arts acquisition costed 4 billion, so 4,6 billion in "expenses" and around 2 billion in "revenues" (tfa's box office).
so they still need 2.6 billion of "profit" to break even, probably less taking the merchandising and whatnot into account

The force is female, IE these children's movies are going to be awful

>>84713888
It's because the shareholders wanted that money back as quick as possible that they fired Michael Arndt who needed more time to finish the script. Instead we got a reboot for nu-males, queers and feminists.

Not gonna lie former Star Wars fan here. It's fucking hilarious watching Kennedy crash and burn. But seriously we can't let her get her hands on the Death Star plans.

>>84713888
They made back all the money in merchandise sales in the first year.

>>84712522

Mark Hamill had different ideas going into it. Doesn't mean that he doesn't like the movies. He obviously likes them. He doesn't need to do them

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>>84712648
>Colin Trevorrow is writing Episode IX
WHAT THE FUCK
>browses wiki
>He has ((important)) ancestry
Oh ok.

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>>84713585
This.
The movies are 2 hour toy ads. They could make their money back without releasing anything else. It would just take a year or two (or three) longer.

>>84713888
>tfa had a budget of 300 million, so it needed 600 million to break even
this might be the most retarded post I've seen all year

>>84712522
kek

>>84714856
Depends on marketing costs I think. RLM had a video that said the production costs are usually equal to the marketing costs of the movie so doubling the production budget is roughly the break-even point. Might not scale the same way with a super high budget movie though.

>>84714984
Disney definitely spent a shitload to advertise TFA. Not sure if it was anywhere near $300 million worth but it was definitely over $100 mil.

>>84713888
According to THR they'll break even after the next movie, as the merchandising is so huge. To give some idea of how huge merchandising can be, Frozen has sold $4bn worth of product.

>>84712622
Would have been better bait if you'd left off the cis white male bit at the end, but here's a (You) anyway for the effort

>>84715061
If Ghostbusters needed to make $300mil to break even on a $144mil budget - a claim made by the studio themselves - then it's probably a safe bet to say that TFA had an even bigger marketing budget.

>>84712853
no

>>84712522
Mark loves TFA...

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>not completely dropping Star Wars after RO

They could have righted the ship but RO proved that they really have no clue what they're doing.

>>84712549
They make tons of money on toys and shit too. It's not hard to break even on Star Wars.

>>84713570
I doubt this will happen. What will happen is she'll survive to the end of the movie and in episode 9 it will be mentioned that she died between films. Some book or comic will portray her death without the need for Carrie Fisher.

>>84714984
Oh well if RLM said it then it must be true.

>>84715713
>If Ghostbusters needed to make $300mil to break even on a $144mil budget - a claim made by the studio themselves - then it's probably a safe bet to say that TFA had an even bigger marketing budget.

Studios LIE. According the studios none of their movies make money.

If the shit studios and producers said was true the movie bussiness wouldn't exist.

Movies like John Wick, Pacific Rim, Edge of Tomorrow, half of the horror movies would NEVER get sequels.

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>>84712522

CAN I PLEASE JUST HAVE A ROGUE SQUADRON MOVIE OR JUST AN X-WING PILOT MOVIE GOD DAMN

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>Disney owns all the rights to merchandise
>you will live out the rest of your life seeing Darth Vader on shirts

>>84712549
Star Wars cost them 4 billion dollars to buy from Lucas. TFA made 2 billion on a 300 million budget, which is a net gain of 1.7 billion. Then Rogue One made another billion on a 250 million budget, which is 2.5 billion overall at this moment - which ISN'T counting all the merchandise and video games and shit.

Realistically they'll break even with the release of Episode VIII.

>>84712522
>Mark Hamill dosen't seem to like The Force Awakens OR The Last Jedi

He's just trolling. Actors are rarely allowed to say bad things about movies they're in in seriousness.

>>84712700
What are the reveals? the tree?

>Tron 2 was one week from shooting when Disney signed the deal for Star Wars and cancelled the entire production to focus on making these shitty fucking Star Wars movies

I'll never not be mad.

>>84712700
what reveals?

>>84716824
>we might live to see the day when young girls run around with darth vader shirts and have no idea who he is or what this weird "star wars" is

>>84716952
>He's just trolling
No you are a fucking faggot

>>84712549
Factoring in merchandising and licensing, Disney have probably already broken even

>>84717107

Rey is the embodiment of the force and the reincarnation of the first Jedi, the force comes from a tree, Skywalkers don't matter.

>>84712853
Chinks will buy anything

>>84716379

RO was much better than TFA.

>>84718050
>Skywalkers don't matter

Kathleen Kennedy might as well have just repeatedly kicked George Lucas in the balls for three hours straight. His take was that the saga should always follow a Skywalker in some capacity, in accordance with the monomyth.

>>84716379
This
>>84718144
TFA is the better made film.
RO has a better premise.

>>84712522
>JUST?
How would she be JUSTed?
Her goal is to separate Disney's Star Wars from the franchise's past. There are only 4 people who have the fan-credibility to stop her.
>She succeeded in forcing Lucas into selling, then swindled him out of any involvement.
>She had Han Solo die a nothing death in VII, so Harrison Ford is gone
>Carrie Fisher conveniently died, getting her out of the way and allowing Disney to milk her death for sympathy shekels
>That leaves Mark Hamill, he's talking shit but not many people are listening. They'll probably write him out within the next two movies like they did to Ford.
With Lucas, Ford, Fisher, and Hamill gone, it's Disney's franchise to play with. The replacement actors will be yoked to unbreakable contracts, the directors will all be studio yesmen. Anyone involved with SW going forward will be too cowed by Disney's industry influence to speak out or rock the boat.
To quote Obi Wan with regards to Mark Hamill/Luke: "That boy is our last hope." And with Fisher gone, no, there is not another.

>>84712700
>there are people that actually thought canning the EU would lead to a net increase in quality
>there are people that thought whatever Disney brought to the table for 7-9 would be better than the Vong Wars

>>84712522
>Episode IX from the director of The Book of Henry (rated 23% on rotten tomatoes)

Also the director of Jurassic World (highly rated and one of the top grossing movies of all time) and Safety Not Guaranteed which was also critically acclaimed.

I hated Ep 7 and R1, Ep 8 isn't looking good and fuck the Han Solo movie, but I still have hope for Rian.

That bitch Kathleen Kennedy is almost 100% responsible for this Disney takeover being complete shit, and thats coming from someone who WAS a die hard Star Wars fan since I can remember.

If she doesn't get too involved Rian might do a good job, but I think she is why everything has been shit so far and the sole reason the Han Solo directors left.

I GUARANTEE the problem is that they wanted to make Han Solo the fucking star and focus of the Han Solo movie, but Kennedy wants the female lead to be the ACTUAL focus of the movie, similar to how Mad Max Fury Road was focused on Furiosa rather than Max.

>>84712700
>The Book Of Henry
A FUCKING TREE

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>>84719902
>oops

>>84718389
Who fucking cares? No one is taking away anything from you. You still have your memories, fondness, and original movies to enjoy forever.

You fucking asshats complain about everything.

Also there are a ton of retards in this thread.
>HURRRRRRR HOW'S A MUCBHHH TO BR4AK EEVEN?

Disney doesn't give a fuck about "breaking even", this is about longevity and the viability of their company to remain relevant in the future. The movies will continue to turn in huge profits, the merchandise and licensing as well, all Disney cares about is their brand and continuing to make it great for the next generations. Anyone who thinks Disney stays up at night worrying about how long it will take them to break even is a fucking moron.

>>84712522
Women have wanted to destroy star wars since the beginning. Now they finally have.

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>>84720849
This

>>84712549
0

>>84721895
>bar is rolling towards the door
>i better make a cutesy cartoon face and shake my fists like an infant

>>84721895
she's cute, would do

>>84721895
>western civilization.webm

>>84718389
>Her goal is to separate Disney's Star Wars from the franchise's past
>shamelessly rip off past movie for VII and then do a prequel to IV
Hmmmmmmmmm

>>84718274
>TFA is the blander made film.

Fixed that for you.

>>84712549

are you kidding?

getting lucasfilm for 4 billionn was a fucking steal. he probably could have sold it for twice that. disney will be making star wars films for the next 50 years and don't forget they got indiana jones and a bunch of other shit too.

>>84712522
Yet the movies still make a billion each (and countless more in merch), and that's all they give a shit about.

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>>84712522
>Mark Hamill doesn't seem to like The Force Awakens OR The Last Jedi
Didn't believe you, looked into it myself.
>Likewise, after reading Rian Johnson’s script for The Last Jedi, Hamill said, “I at one point had to say to Rian, ‘I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you’ve made for this character. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you’ve created and do my best to realize your vision.’
Christ, what did they fucking do.

>>84721895
Look at those beta numale cuck orbiters totally okay with the fact she caused thousands of dollars of damage instead of kicking her out and calling the cops on her. If that were a dude they would all be demanding he pay and getting the police to write a report.

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>>84716379
>implying I'm not a /v/edditor who boycotted the movie the instant I found out it wasn't about the Dark Forces games.
>implying Jyn Erso isn't a piss poor strong womyn version of Jan Ors
>Implying Angela Harry isn't qt as fuck

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>>84712522
Should have stuck to the Rogue One sequel they had planned.

>>84721895
why are women so weak and pathetic?

>>84712522
>Years later the prequels will be known as classics and OTcucks and nuwarscucks will be on suicide watch

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>>84721895
Imagine if this was one of those gyms with a top floor and glass windows that reach from ceiling to floor and the bar rolled out glass and crushed a family of octuplet babies.

>>84722717
Yeah, that's never happening.

>>84722596
>thousands of dollars of damage

What, it's a fucking glass door. A few hundred dollars at most to get that replaced
The fuck are you on

>>84722910
It already is.

>>84722916
The floor, the carpet, the doors and hingers, temporary replacements, services, liability, insurance.

>>84722916
Shit like that is more expensive than you might expect. From the quick glance we get, it looks like maybe a $1500 job to me (including labor). Could very well be more; very doubtful that it's much less.

>>84722411
That Vanity Fair piece is gold.

>“The moment in the forest, when the saber rattles?” he said. “I go, ‘Oh, baby, here I come!’ And then it flies intoHERhands? I said, What the hell, she hasn’t even trained!

Rey Sue fans BTFO

>b-but she's Luke's daughter!
>even Luke thinks it was bullshit

>>84716824
>all the shameless episode 8 advertising coming
I really hope it sucks so they chill out.

>>84720140
Damn dude, relax, no one said they're worrying at all. Some guy asked how much and some people were just speculating for fun. Stop unleashing your autistic rage on those who don't deserve it

>>84722176
>TFA id the blander made film, but RO is even blander
fixed fixed that for you

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>>84712648

Plus the other writer is his writing partner, who also wrote other dogshit like Kong Skull Island. This is gonna be really bad, isn't it anons?

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>>84712622

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>>84722648
We've had a rogue one sequel for years

>>84713518
CGI old Leia gets blowed up on Alderaan 2 Electric Boogaloo, by Death Star pt4.

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STAR WARS
(1977-2005)
reminding you to press F

>>84728006
I wish Lucas kept the rights and just gave specific permissions to various artists around the world. He took the easy way out. I get he got tired of all the fan hate that exploded with the Plinkett reviews but he could've still saved the series.

>>84718894
I'm still unhappy about this. I knew Disney would bring something safer to the table, but I had hope it would still be good. Unfortunately that is not the case.

>>84719167
>I GUARANTEE the problem is that they wanted to make Han Solo the fucking star and focus of the Han Solo movie, but Kennedy wants the female lead to be the ACTUAL focus of the movie
I speculated if that might be the case as well. I mean two movies now have had English actresses leading them and now there's another fucking English actress (WTF?) in this upcoming spin off. I'm thinking you may be right and at a minimum Disney wants the girl to share 50% of the screen as a lead character. I have no faith in this movie and I will not bother watching it. The actor they chose for Han sucks anyway. Not a fan of Glover either. Dude just does not have star appeal charisma.

>>84728006
its always been shit t b h

>>84723599
You know, that scene would've been far better if Luke had appeared out of nowhere to take that light saber. THAT would've been a twist. And the leap in logic for it to happen would've fit right in with TFA anyway.

The Book of Henry was pure kino. Critics are niggers.

I wonder if Kathleen told Mark Hamil to shut it..
He speaks the truth I hope, seems a no bullshit man!

>>84712522
^^^ just looking @ that pic reaffirms even more that she's a f'n slut........................

>>84717296
Uh this is already happening, it's 2017 after all. Not 1997. Also, who cares. even if you were to care about this nonsense, they will grow up knowing Star Wars because it is one of the most popular cultural things in the world

>>84729285
So is it good or is it bad? I don't understand what you're saying.

>>84712622
bait, and one things for sure, star wars is being milked to death

>>84729783

It's fucking crazy. Henry dies like 45 minutes into the movie, and the rest of the movie is his mom reading his diary to get pointers on how to murder the rapist/cop next door and get away with it clean.

>>84718894
The old EU degenerated into incestuous fan fiction. Though I doubt the new one will fare much better.

star wars is just an irrelevant cash cow now, like transformers.

tfa was 'watchable' for the most part but rogue one was such unbelievable nonsense i could barely believe my eyes. honestly made the prequels look good

but of course everyone including critics loves it because blind nostalgia and pc pandering. the force is female guys, so progressive and empowering. that's what counts these days, not quality story telling or anything.

>>84712522

the people who directed Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi (both of whom weren't George Lucas) had virtually no career after that

hell, George Lucas couldn't direct any good movies after A New Hope

I guess the real question here is, is J.J. Abrams standing over everyone's shoulder like the autist Lucas was?

>>84722596
More likely the gym would be slapped with safety fines. She didn't intend to do what she did, so it's unlikely she'll be charged with anything since no one was hurt. If the gym wants to hold her accountable, they can take her to small claims court.

>>84712522
So now we're going to get threads everyday for next 100 years where /tv/ says the new star wars will flop when it actually turns out to be critical and financial success
Reminder /tv/ is always wrong

>>84717107
That leaked Sloth image is actually a reincarnation of Anakin

>>84730166
got a pic?

The Last Jedi will be one of the best Star Wars movies.

>>84722411
I love how retards spout that quote without finishing Hamill saying he trusts Rian after seeing where he was going

Finally this shitty franchise will collapse.

>>84730166

so says more leaks

>>84730166
Pic?

>>84712542
This. They can be as shit as they may, but Normies will eat the slop up anyway.
TFA was huge, so huge that Normies world wide, China excluded, spent untold millions, but in the end nobody really was impacted by it.
People pretended it was great, because it was Star Wars that wasn't the prequels and had a Girl Jedi and a Black guy.

Nobody really cares about those characters, not really. There is no Han Solo in TFA, not even Han because he was a boring fogy. There was no cultural impact, because it was just the first movie again, and that already impacted the world.

This new Trilogy is just an excuse to resell the old trilogy to people who are willingly blind to the wanton pandering being done.

>>84712522
SHOW YOUR TITS

>>84726132
Oh why did I hurt your feelings? Stop being a little bitch.

>>84730893
> There was no cultural impact
No movie has "cultural impact" anymore

>>84722225
Fox was willing to buy to buy it for 20 billion. He sold it to Disney because he believed that they'd do a better job with it, but that conniving cunt Kathleen fucked him over

>>84731486
Any source on the fox offer?

>>84714660
Exactly. Whether a movie "makes a profit" only matters if there isn't 5x the money in toy and other sales. The movies could be shown for free as a loss leader for toy sales. They only need not bomb, because then the toy makers want their licensing money back.

>>84712549
They've already made the money back for sure, and in 10 years they will start milking Indiana Jones once Harrison ford is retired or dead

>>84733220
>"Why did it have to be snakes?"
>Snags statue over there with whip
>Swings over
>Statue starts tipping
>Cue CGI shakeycam rrrrrrRRRRRRRRR