>running time: 107 minutes Seriously, what did Nolan mean

>>84636547
TWIST: Hitler let them escape the entire time

>>84636560
This. It will be the only twist that makes sense. There'll be a point in the movie where the brits have run out of options and are on the brink of being annihilated, then the germans will suddenly stop attacking.

>>84636547
I genuinely reckon he and his brother wrote the same stale, nonsensical tripe they always write and then the editor just cut out all the pointless exposition without telling him and then showed Nolan the cut in front of an entire audience who immediately praised the film as Nolan's best yet forcing him to pretend like he was happy with the finished film

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>>84636547
>Is there going to be no exposition then?
>Directed by: Christopher Nolan
That's impossible

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>hey, are you finished over there?
>yeah. I'm done, Kirk

seriously?

>>84636547
>Is there going to be no exposition then
HA!

>>84636547
nolan sucks anyway

>>84636590
It would be nice if Nolan actually presents historical facts, but there is no way (((they))) would ever allow it.

>>84636547
>Is there going to be no exposition then?

Yes. Nolan said multiple times that the dialogue is minimal and practically non existent, especially compared to the rest of his films. He said he's surprised the studio even allowed that. All the soldiers will be no names with no history.
It will be just 107 minutes of pure audio visual experience.

>>84636547
>what do you think the big twist will be?
Gay romance.

More like it was a boring overlong mess and they've had to hack it to pieces to get anything close to an interesting narrative.

>>84636828
any source on that?

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Here are a few excerpts from a Nolan Dunkirk interview
>(Smile.) Do not repeat it to the studio: it will be my most experimental film. By far. I preferred to make a sensory, almost experimental movie. Without dialogue. The soldiers have no history - at least I don’t tell it. Most of the crew didn’t understand why I was screening them The Wages of Fear. But it was the one that made the most sense. Which talks about mechanics, procedure and physical difficulties. I rewatched Pickpoket and Un condamné à mort s’est échappé, just for that. Bresson details everything, creates suspense with details.

>[Saving Private] Ryan is a film about the body, blood, fear of being dismembered. Fear is physical. Steven was able to create a visceral intensity of the experience of war. Dunkirk doesn’t play in the same category. It’s a movie with suspense and a race against time.

>It isn’t by accident that Heart of Darkness by Conrad is one of my favorite novels. It’s the purest form of geography and storytelling. Conrad never repeats himself, he sinks gradually into the depths of the human mind. Is it an inward journey or a trip out of oneself ? That’s the real question Conrad is asking. And 2001! And Dante! How to tell the trip ? This is the main question of cinema.

Basically the film is a suspense thriller about transporting a fuckload of people from point A to point B, not about the usual "war is hell" narrative.

>>84636560
Isn't that what happened? Hitler decided to postpone bombing the shit out of them and they escaped.

>>84636898
>>84636897
it's a translated french Nolan interview from http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-Cinema/EXCLU-Christopher-Nolan-et-ses-collaborateurs-revelent-7-infos-sur-Dunkerque

>>84636828
>>84636898
Too bad he can't frame a shot to save his life and he has some of the worst choreography and cinematography I've ever seen in Hollywood cinema.

>>84636547
>What do you think the big twist will be

You're led to believe half way through the film Tom Hardy is killed in a gas attack. The final shot of the film is him barely alive, his hair having fallen out from the gas effects, with him sucking on a broken gas mask held over his face. It's why he wears military fatigues in TDKR. BANE?

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>>84636739
Precisely. If anything, he trimmed the fat so it's a nice lean 107 minutes of uninterrupted exposition.

>>84636951
That scene in the trailer is the first time he puts on the mask

>>84636819
He's one of the few directors that can boss around a studio so if he wants to they'll probably let him

>>84636819
Such as?

>>84636929
Nolan isn't the cinematographer you mongoloid, Hoyte van Hoytema is (Her, Interstellar, Spectre). Post a single shot from him that has bad framing or composition.
As for choreography yes, Nolan doesn't have good hand to hand combat sequences in any of his films, but Dunkirk has practically zero close quarter battles. As for big action set pieces, he's good.

>>84636898
he's such a fucking wanker oh dear god

>>84636998
It's gonna look like a poorly lit mess Chris, we all know it

>>84637056
I know you are memeing but Nolan doesn't do any of the lighting, the director of photography (Hoytema) directs his lighting technicians for the shots.
Post a single poorly lit frame from Hoytema.

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>>84636819
>HURR DURR HITLER LET THEM GO OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HIS HEART
>DA JOOS MUH CHURCHILL AND DRESDEN MUFUGGA
>HITLER DINDU NUFFIN

>>84637090
wtf i hate nazis

>>84637090
Hitler was literally a britboo and didn't want to go to war with them

>>84637090
>HURR DURR
>DA JOOS MUH
Go back to redit you fucking butthurt autistic retard.

>>84637090
The irony of you using that image you disgusting fucking kike rat

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>>84636819
>>84636560

>>84637090
cry more about your safe space jew lover

>>84636929
somebody post the dark knight rises chareography scenses

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>>84637084
>implying Nolan won't have the final say anyway
But since you asked, this entire film looked worse than HBO.

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>>84636898
Memes aside, he has to be the most pretentious director in interviews by far. "The biggest anyone's done since the silent era" - on TDKR
And pic related amongst so many others
Even Refn, who plays it up for humour, comes off as less of a hipster douchebag.

>>84636929
I think his composition is one of his only strong suits (which I'm sure has a lot to do with working with extremely talented DPs). But his choreography is embarrassing

>>84637112
Waah, that's mine!

It's gonna be like Mad Max Furiosa Road, full movie is 1 act trying to escape from there, that's why is short

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>Listens to his idiot Goering that the luftwaffe can beat the Allies at Dunkirk, 400,000 allies escape
>Wants to beat UK but forces the Luftwaffe on useless civilian bombing halfway through, ensures UK is still int he war
>Invades the USSR while UK is still undefeated
>Invades the USSR prematurely with unprepared forces
>Changes the main objective in Barbarossa 3 times over the course of a few months
>Declares war on the US as USSR and UK are still undefeated (lmao, what could possibly go wrong!)
>Splits army Group South and lets one half get surrounded at Stalingrad
>Wastes resources in a useless African campaign and completely ineffective ideas like V1/2 attacks not to mention the holocaust
>"Never retreat" fucks the Germans in every battle in the East after 1942
>Changes the objective and timetable at Kursk like 3 times, ensuring that it will be a disaster
>Forces R&D to focus on juvenile super-weapons concepts instead of efficient designs
>Cripples said super-weapons with stupid ideas liek forcing the Me-262 to have a ground attack capability
>Insists to waste resources in stupid offensives like Battle of the Bulge and Spring Awakening)
>Drags the war out for 3 years even though it's clear Germany lost
>hurrr it's just an exaggeration guys

>>84636898
>The Wages of Fear
>Heart of Darkness

nolan is an actual true /film/ and /lit/ patrician

>>84636951
>>84636973
I will literally cream myself if this happens.
>As Hardy puts on the mask for the first time in the plane
>Squad mate:"Farrier, you know that mask won't make you a better pilot?"
>Hardy:"We'll see..."
>Intense dog fight where he saves his squad mate's life
>SM:"Shit, maybe we should start paying attention to you when you put that thing on"

>>84637190
Oh vey! Dat image was given to my great great grandrabbi Shlomohberg Goldlevistein for holocaust reparations where 60 billion jews were slaughtered by Trump supporters

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>>84636547
The twist will be Bane coming out from a vision of a past life then collects himself and continues his dialogue with CIA.

>>84637213
>knowing americanized noir shit and literal high school required reading makes you patrician
"ok"

>>84637225
Clearly would never happen but what would /tv/ look like if it did
I can imagine all hot heads collectively killing themselves the night it releases

>>84637252
>The Wages of Fear
>"americanized noir shit"

??

>>84637120
Hitler letting them escape isn't actually an "edgy conspiracy theory".

>>84636547
Nolan movies always feel rushed. I thought it was because he tried to fit a 4 hour movie in a 2h30min movie, but I guess he just likes to rush them even when there is absolutely no need to.

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>>84636547
>Nolan my dude we need another simply hella f*ckin' EPIC movie for the reddit crowd
>ok since dubya dubya 2 is topical let's do that
>sure chrisy boy now what part of that epic conflict do you want to recreate
>uhh how about the Dunkirk evacuation
>...
Seriously what the fuck

>>84636560
>>84636590
>>84636819
>>84637286
The German forces halted briefly so as not to overextend their supply lines thinking they would be able to crush the British forces at will but were outwitted and made to look foolish once again by the clever Anglo.

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>anglo

>>84637330
>This is what British kids learn at school

>>84637306
It's a sign that he wants to do it out of passion/desire to make it, not because someone told him so.
No one asked for a WWII movie about a british retreat event with a full white male cast, but he did it because he wanted to do it, not because of some studio exec calculating the marketing demand and coming up with the idea.

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>>84637363
Nice argument

>>84637175
>tinker tailor soldie spy looked worse than HBO
it's like you didn't get that they wanted the film to have a grainy 70s look. it looked gorgeous, best shot and lit film of this decade.
but what to expect from an average /tv/ poster?

>>84637363
Hitler listened to Goering, who assured him he would destroy the BEF with airpower alone. dumb stormnigger

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do you think frenchs gonna be pissed when they find out the movie is about the british army?

>>84637498
there are frenchies in the film too, you can see the french troops at 1:07 right in the trailer

>>84636898
Lmao at all the brainlets replying to this calling him pretentious when it's actually patrician

>>84637498
nah most people here probably have never heard of the dunkerque evacuation, they'll swallow it up unless the "experimental" part rebuked them and no one goes to see it

>>84636898
In comparison, a few excerpts from Nolan on TDKR
>"I think this is the biggest one I’ve done, the biggest one anyone’s done since the silent era"
>"I don’t know when someone last did a film with 11,000 extras in a real environment. It is an escalation."
>"It’s all about historical epics in conception. It’s a war film. It’s a revolutionary epic. It’s looking back to the grand-scale epics of the past, really, and for me that goes as far back as silent films. I’ve been watching a lot of silent films with my kids on Blu-Ray. We’ve shot over a third of the movie on the IMAX format, and that naturally puts you more in the mode of staging very large events for the camera. It’s my attempt to get as close to making a Fritz Lang film as I could. It’s also more in the mould of ‘Doctor Zhivago,’ or ‘A Tale Of Two Cities,’ which is a historical epic with all kinds of great storytelling taking place during the French Revolution."

And for Interstellar
>"People are always accusing my films of having plot holes, and I’m very aware of the plot holes in my films and very aware of when people spot them, but they generally don’t."

So yeah, nothing new there

>>84637604
>"I don’t know when someone last did a film with 11,000 extras in a real environment. It is an escalation."
Gladiator? Kingdom of Heaven? Lord of The Rings? Spartacus? The Good, The Bad and The Ugly?
Is Nolan aware of other filmmakers or does he just live in his own bubble?

How can Nolan even compete?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijbOCvunfU

>>84637650
>that nigger
they couldn't resist uh

>>84637647
Half of those films didn't have even half of that amount of extras on screen at the same time, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>84637565
this. he has great taste in kino and literature. i remember reading an interview with him where he states that a short story from borges inspired him while writing inception. i admire his tastes and dedication to filmmaking but his aspiration for grandness sometimes makes his films sloppy, like a lot of the scenes in TDKR had terrible background choreography.
i may not like all his films, especially the batman trilogy but memento and the prestige are fantastic. i wish he would make something different than just thriller movies within alternating contexts (crime thriller, sci-fi thriller, capeshit thriller).

>>84637682
Epic post reddit

>>84637692
>i wish he would make something different than just thriller movies within alternating contexts (crime thriller, sci-fi thriller, capeshit thriller).
And now a war setting thriller lmao

>>84637682
>there's no niggers in WW2

wew not even /pol/ is this retarded

>>84637717
thanks redditbro glad you got my back

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>>84636929
Umh excuse me

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>>84637682
Sieg Heil amrite

>>84637745
Units were segregated friend
You can ask your bull if he's done now

>>84637363
>this is the kind of truthpill /pol/ can't handle

>>84637791
>segregated
>in british army

could you stop embarrasing yourself?

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>>84637685
Nolan said he didn't know the last time someone did a film with 11, 000 extras in a real environment.

Gladiator
>Can't find exact figures but over 10,000 costumes were made
Kingdom of Heaven
>At its height, the production utilized 25,000 to 30,000 extras, sometimes augmented by the Moroccan army.
http://cinemareview.com/production.asp?prodid=2960
Lord of the rings
>More than 20,000 extras were cast in the epic Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Media-and-TV/article/the-cast-of-lord-of-the-rings-is-huge-how-many-extras-were-involved/
Return of the King
>20,602 background actors cast;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/trivia
Spartacus
>According to a March 22, 1959 article in The New York Times, "upwards of 50,000 [extras] took part" in the battle sequences
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054331/trivia
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
>Shot in the deserts of Spain with 1,500 Spanish soldiers as extras.

Well you got one right I suppose...
kek

>>84637791
Segregated units don't even refute his point you mong

>>84637827
so the brits didn't have colonial units? just huge melting pots where they mixed everyone?

>>84637886
If you watched the video you would know it did
Feel free to kill yourself

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>>84637685
Where are there even 11,000 extras on screen at once in TDKR?

At most there were 800-1000 extras for this scene, which is easily the biggest scene in the movie in regards to people on screen at once. Maybe they had 11,000 extras total for the entire movie. But there was never a scene with 11,000 people in it, Nolan is full of shit.

>>84637330
Not to be rude but the real reason still isn't known. They have had many explanations as to why the nazis stopped their advance.

>>84637868
maybe by "the silent era" he just meant since before 2005?

>>84637868
We are talking about a single shot, not the entire runtime. The 20 000 extras in LOTR are the total amount of extras, not the amount of extras in one scene.
Nolan had 11 thousand extras in a single scene and yes that is quite rare to see in modern filmmaking as he said. They were terribly choregraphed though.

>>84637931
Not that anon but maybe it's the stadium scene?

>>84637913
Segregated units were a thing because they didn't come from the mainland, that doesn't mean they were unable to join people of different races in the same place. That's just an amerilard thing.

>>84637965
See
>>84637931

If there were a scene with 11,000 people in it then Nolan is just a shitty filmmaker because nothing in TDKR has that sense of scale.

>>84637965
When in that quote does Nolan ever say in a single shot? He just says in a real environment
And are we ignoring the more than 50,000 extras in just the battle sequences in Spartacus?
(And since there are only like 2 big battle scenes in the whole film, than at least one of them must be more than 11,000 at once)
Or is Spartacus part of the silent era according to Nolan's revisionism?

Stop defending this hack

WHY THE FUCK would a film based on a REAL AND VERY WELL KNOWN EVENT NEED EXPO FUCKING SITION???

>>84637965
>>84638045
Adding to this, Kingdom of Heaven had 25,000 to 30,000 "at its height" meaning not in total but just at the time when they had most at once.
>b-but Kingdom of Heaven isn't modern filmmaking!

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>>84637993
Most of the people in the stadium scene are CGI, with only one section of the crowd being real. I dunno, maybe there's 11,000 people in pic related. But is gathering a bunch of people to sit in a stadium for your movie really something you need to brag about like this is the first movie being made since the silent era?

>>84638089
Because this isn't any film, it's directed by Christopher "Bravo" Nolan

>>84638129
I didn't know Bane doubled as a cameraman.

>>84638129
why is Bane holding the camera?

>>84638165
>>84638177
He's a capable guy

>>84636929
You have no idea what any of those words mean, and it's quite obvious.

>>84636750
underrated

>>84636913
They had the opportunity to wipe them out as they ran to the boats but let them go. It there was a halt order to prevent the allied forces from breaking. Hitler didn't order it, two generals did. Had they not given the halt order, Britain was considering surrendering completely and it would have easily gone down in history as the biggest slaughter ever

>>84637934
This, even modern historians today are scratching their head at why Hitler didn't just finish the slaughter.

>>84637283
Don't worry anon he's never seen it. Have you seen Sorceror? It's a fitting homage to the original but I think that its failure in the face of Star Wars ended the appreciation of the auteur approach in American cinema.

>>84639212
Because hitler wasn't the one that gave the order. The generals took it into their own hands

>>84636998
>>84637084
I don't think you understand that the Director has the final say on those aspects

>>84637177
>he has to be the most pretentious director in interviews by far
This, he thinks he's a golden age of Hollywood, Alfred Hitchcock style director
>muh wear a fucking tuxedo every day on set

>>84636898
>all this pseudo-intellectual waffle for his pg13 war flick

>>84636547

Spoiler alert; the good guys lost

>>84637225
My fucking sides

>>84639329
Yeah, Friedkins actually did a good job, but I found the first act quite lacking while The Wages of Fear is raw and suspensful throughout.
Still one of the better examples of decent remakes

>>84639212
Because that would have been a bad move if you want to make peace with someone. Hitler had great respect for the british prior to the war and did not want to have a war with the brits. Multiple attempts at peace by the Germans were ignored by the then soundly defeated brits.

>>84639899
haha heil hitler amirite?

>>84639329
>trying this hard

>>84636929
What the fuck are you talking about? Nolan isn't good at choreography but he's great at cinematography. All of his films look good.

>>84639735
Ofcourse the director gives his input first, but Hoytema (or any acclaimed DP) would never allow a "poorly lit" set or a badly framed scene in his work, you can't back up mistakes in your career by saying "director said he wanted it like that".
Pretty sure if Nolan wanted something like that he would tell him straight that's it looks like shit and why it looks like shit.

>>84637090

Keep redit in reddit

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>>84636929
>some of the worst cinematography I've ever seen in Hollywood cinema.
So you've never seen a Marvel movie?

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>>84640061
You're going on and on about this literal who Hoytema, I don't think you know much about Chris "studio loves me because I do everything in one take even if it looks awful" Nolan

>>84640158
>LOOK AT THESE SHITTY EXTRAS!
Anon, all that does is prove Nolan isn't good at directing extras. It doesn't prove his cinematography is bad. Just stop, it's painfully obvious you don't know anything about cinematography.

>>84640158
>Hoyte Van Hoytema
>literal who
How ignorant can one be?. And I bet you jerk off on "based Deakins" in other threads.
It sure is summer here

And the DP for the entire batman trilogy by Wally Pfister who has zero relations with Dunkirk.

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>>84637474
>it looks like shit on purpose!

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>>84637868
This shot from Gandhi has a million extras.

>>84640158
>one of the biggest cinematographers currently working
>"literal who"
Wew, thanks for confirming you're just a retarded shitposter.

>>84640276
>DoP for a James Bond film and swedish flicks no one has ever seen
wow, I'm really impressed

>>84640288
>the director intentionally made the film look like it was made in the 70s
>"WELL, I DON'T LIKE IT SO IT'S SHIT! HOYTE IS A HACK EVEN THOUGH HE WAS JUST OBEYING THE DIRECTOR!"
It's time to stop posting.

>>84640337
>Her
>The Fighter
>Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
>>DoP for a James Bond film and swedish flicks no one has ever seen
Man, you really are retarded.

>>84640337
And Her. And Interstellar. And The Fighter. And come on, Let the Right One in is pretty fucking entry level.
Confirmed for being a surface-level tourist crossposter filthy casual.

Hoytema, you need to leave this thread

>>84640423
You need to admit you don't know shit about cinematography.

>>84640415
>>84640406
None of those films have notable cinematography, He's generic and by the numbers

>>84640445
How is he generic and by the numbers? Do you have any real criticisms? Just admit you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

>>84640470
I just find it bizarre how inordinately you're praising him, He's nothing special

>>84640445
yeah Her was so fucking generic and bland nothing special about the visuals at all am I right
and that Interstellar flick, what a poorly lit and framed mess lmao am I rite so generic

>>84640529
>getting this butthurt
Calm down, kid

>>84640445
>>84640513
You've gone from
>who cares about Hoyte? He's a literal who, Nolan will have control over the cinematography.
to
>Hoyte is a generic hack!

You're moving the goalposts and the reason you're doing this is because you don't have any real arguments. You should either admit defeat or stop posting.

>>84640513
No one said he's the best ever, you just said he was a "literal who" while he's pretty fucking known and probably on every "top 10 cinematographers" list of today

>>84638089
I've never heard of this before. I don't think it's a big deal outside of England or ww2 buffs.

>>84640701
No you're just lacking in any form of education by the sound of it

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>>84636547
If anyone is considering watching it in theaters, I strongly advise you too not go the first few days of release because the entirety of the audience will probably look like this.

>>84636750
Amazing

>>84638188
For hire

>>84636547
Hahahah what the FUCK

Who the fuck makes a war film that's less than 2 hours long? Even fucking Fury was over 2 hours.

>>84640593
who?

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>>84637682
Retard BTFO.

>>84640893

bueno

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>>84636547
Let me fix that for you
>Seriously, what did STUDIO mean by this?

AAA movies today are no more than a preview for the Blu-Ray release

You'll get only a flavor of the story but for the full directors vision, you're gonna have to cough up more cash

Blame Warner and their DC fuckery

>>84636913

Hitler let them go because he wanted peace but he didn't know that Jews had already taken over the British Empire.

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>>84642245
Same applies to World War 1
Sikh and African regiments fighting side by side with the British and Australian squaddie at Gallipoli

It's the Yanks that have a problem with people of color with the mistaken impression that so called "American exceptionalism" applies on to White people

>>84643730
The proper nomenclature is colored people.

Get it right, bigot.

>>84643785
>triggered

>>84636560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYGcMqMd128

>>84641964
What?

>>84636819
Except Hitler letting the British escape isn't a fact. go learn history.

>>84637934
Maybe, but reasons like "we need to rest/ressuply/because we're too stretched/because the enemy could prepare a counterattack" make more sense that "let them escape, they will think we're nice and make peace with us"

>>84640745
>americans caring about any event not involving americans

>>84645140
maybe
Maybe not

>>84636750
Laughed so hard.

>>84636819
>murrica saves the day with care packages and funding
Thanks nolan

>>84645140
Evidence proves Hitler was a retarded strategist anyway. he took massive risks and just hoped for the best.

>thank god we fought off the nazi's
>otherwise our nation would be flooded by foreigners

>fast forward 60 years

LOL, all these britcucks died for nothing. London resembles Islamabad at this point.

>>84636547
what's with the futuristic font for the logo? looks like a video game and doesn't exactly remind me of war torn europe.

>>84645366
He wasn't completely retarded for thinking he could make some sort of peace with the brits, not everyone hated the nazis in the UK, without Churchill it could have happened

>>84636547
Pay for this movie and you support the jewish narrative. This extends to capeshit and tv/film in general

>>84646641
Not really since Hitler had already proven himself dishonorable. would be stupid to trust him or anything he promised.

>>84636547
90 minutes is the best running time for a film, it's a move in the right direction my dood

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>>84636547
Are you stupid? The image says 1hr 47min, not 1hr 7min. Next time you make a thread atleast get that right.

>>84648484
Wew lad 107 minutes equals 1 hour and 47 minutes

>>84648484
1 hour = 60 minutes... Not 1 hour = 100 minutes...

I think someone needs to repeat the 1st grade.

>>84648484
kek

>>84648484
You didn't take into account leap minutes.

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>>84648484
state of you