Will there be ever anything like it again? Second best show

>only 2 seasons

I want to get into it but eh..

>>84572236
The story it sets out to tell is told pretty well with what time they were given.

But the series really shines in the kind of vibe it manages to produce. You really feel like you get a glimpse into the daily live of Romans from a variety of social classes.

>>84572342
>The story it sets out to tell is told pretty well with what time they were given.
first season yes, second season is extremely obviously rushed and really should have been split in at least 2 seasons, preferably 3

>tfw youll never have a bro like titus pullo

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>the movie is still in development Hell

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>>84572195
>some people think game of thrones is better than this

jupiters cock, there really is no hope for some people.

>>84572480
First season could've been split in two

A TRVE ROME THREAD FOR TRVE ROMANS

>>84572480
It was meant to be longer but budget problems cut the series short so they sort of crammed the rest of the series into the second season. A shame. The first season is the best series i know

>>84572856
IIRC HBO has come out and said they regret the decision

shame really, just telling the story of how Octavian became Augustus would have been more than sufficient to fill 3 seasons, and the series had to mind Vorenus and Pullo as well

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most hate-able character in the show, easily.

>>84572236
all the more reason to watch it. no filler bullshit, and you don't have commit to 6-7 seasons.

>>84572980
honestly, she's only the lesser of 2 queen bitches

>>84572980
Atia of the Julii, I call for justice

>>84572195
Overrated schlock.

>>84572642
we're still getting a Deadwood movie, r-right guys?

>ROME thread
AVE

>>84573107
t. gallic filth

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>ywn have a friend like Vorenus or Pullo to help you as you are about to be executed

Seriously though I love there friendship. I just started watching Rome and it's really good.

>>84573257
I say this unironically, but Vorenus and Pullo's friendship is easily the most believable and best friendship in television and one of the best in film as a whole

>Just started another watch through

Gracchus! Something more cheerful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSqHfAoE6q0

>all the battles are cut
this series is crippled from the outset
too costly
all scenes are men in rooms talking during a string of civil wars
with all the fancy decor they couldnt get a half decent action scene
questionable historic accuracy for the sake of ratings
notable events omitted, others invented
not enough meat on its bones

its only saving grace are the performances

>>84572195
THIRTEEN

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>>84573347
THIRTEEN

>>84573335
>there's not enough mindless Le EPIC battle scenes like in Game of Thrones so it's SHIT!!!!!!!
Go back to capeshit retard

>>84572980
too kind...
far too kind...

>>84573335
to be fair there's absolutely no way to do a series in that time period and end up with a budget big enough to film all the battles even if there are a LOT of battles that would make for great scenes

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>>84573335
>Not wanting to just watch Roman statesmen scheming against each other

ILLEGAL WARFARE

>>84573380
actually that's part of the problem: a great deal of the battles would most decidedly NOT be mindless because we have the full historic records (if you can sift through the propaganda bullshit) of those battles and they were (at least the important ones) commanded by highly intelligent and capable people

I really would not have minded seeing say, Pharsalus fully in action

>>84573335
fuck off nerd im glad they didnt waste money on battle scenes considering it allowed them to make the best set, props, and costumes ever. Just look at the lorica hamata my nigga, its fucking perfect. People complain that they were too dirty but come on, we're talking about the gallic legions. A little dirt and grime to show that theyd been through some shit was a nice touch.

>>84573335
>>84573487
they did as well as they could with the budget they had - a budget that effectively killed the series btw

besides i really like that little scene where Pompey is explaining to Vorenus what happened at Pharsalus - and Vorenus agreeing it was a sound strategy and it should've worked - it gave it a human touch

I just re-watched this last week .. you know its interesting, each episode felt like 3 or 4 episodes of a modern series. They all had so much depth with intricate well crafted stories... never see that any more, sad

>>84573335
Would be doable today for HBO, back then large scale cgi battles were not really possible with the budgetary constraints tv series have compared to movies. Unless they want it to look like absolute shit.

>>84573655
oh yeh that was a very good scene, good enough that I wonder why they even bothered with the generic actiony sequence in place of the actual battle

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>>84572980
>Age-gap
pure Kino

The granddaddy of good HBO drama, coupled with the Wire.
Shame about muh hebrew subplot wedging in ror no (obvious) reason.

>>84572195
childhood is when you idolize rome
adulthood is when you realize Spartacus made more sense and was much better

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>>84574330
They say plebs speak of kino as fish speak of flying.

>>84574330
Spartacus was fun to watch but didn't even have a single character that approached the ones from Rome

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>It's absurd isn't it? Dressing up...playing at being God.

>Playing? I am not playing. This is not a game.

What did he mean by this?
Were they trying to drive towards an interpretation where Caesar was genuinely becoming a tyrant? It seemed quite out of character where he way portrayed as having an aura of authority but still fairly down to earth.

>>84573983
>Shame about muh hebrew subplot wedging in ror no (obvious) reason.
They were going to expand on it in future seasons, which obviously didn't happen

>>84574330
The core of Spartacus was very good but there was far too much weird sexual shit in it. As well as that, the first half of the first season is pretty terrible so a lot of people I've recommended it to have had trouble getting into it.

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>>84574618
>If my last coin buys me a throne, it's a fair price.
>Throne?
>Poetic license!

>>84572195
Which one is this? Is this the HBO one? I want to watch Rome stuff.

>>84574660
Fair enough, but that was a much more subtle hint than the other one. And in every other scene he's quite normal.

>>84574703
yeh HBO series, it's literally called Rome
if you're interesting in roman stuff, you'll probably like it, it has one of the most accurate representations of late republic roman life ever put to film

>>84574618
Caesar is always portrayed as being just at the verge of wanting to become a king/tyrant, only restrained by his inner want to MRGA.

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>>84574765
Neet. Thanks anon.

Ive been wanting to get into Roman era history recently so this should be a start.

>>84574839
there are quite some inaccuracies though regarding the life of the various historical figures due to artistic license and in season 2 due to the need to compress 15 years of history into barely 10 episodes

>>84574787
it's a bit of a shame the series didn't go on long enough to demonstrate the difference in this between him and Octavian

>>84572195
silly anon, it's deadwood>rome>sopranos

>>84574625
>was far too much weird sexual shit in it
just like in ancient rome, retard. ancient rome was peak degeneracy.

>>84575042
not really, remember that in roman times there was no difference between historical records and propaganda, much of the supposed degeneracy was merely defamation

HE WAS A C O N S U L O F R O M E

>>84572195
It's not even in latin, try again ameritards

>>84575109
pure degeneracy, homo sex, bestiality, cuckolding, pedophilia, orgies, this is not a propaganda. this is what the richest did because they were so fucking bored.

CAIVS.

JVLIVS.

CAESAR.

>>84574618

He genuinely wanted to rule. He liked having power. That being said, he seemed to be a genuinely benevolent ruler, unlike the senate.

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>>84575268

>>84575354
Fuck I loved this guy

I started watching this show but it dedicated more time to the private affairs of two (besides their names) fictitious Roman soldiers than on actual history.

>>84572980
What? Atia is kind of a more terrible person, and I love Polly Walker. I mean yeah if you like Caesar and hate his foes then I can understand but overall as a person she isn't that bad.

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>>84575621
That's the whole point you absolute plebeian

>>84575135
This. They couldn't even use ancient Romans from the time period to play the characters, instead they jumped the shark using 21st century British ones

>>84576082
Troy was going to be all in Latin but then they jumped the proverbial shark.

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>Anon, have you penetrated anyone yet?

>>84576131
I dropped it when I found out they weren't going to time travel back to the Bronze Age and film the actual event, fucking hacks.

>>84572342
they really did the cultural exposistion so seamlessly

they would always fit in little snippets that would give you insight into the roman way of life without being so obvious as to tell you directly

scenes like where atia does the blood sacrifice with the bull when she sends octavian to gaul, that kind of stuff
it fleshes the world out so well

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>Hey you just murdered my husband like two episodes ago but sure I'll marry you

>>84573079
whos the other?
I hope you don't mean atia who was easily one of the most based characters in the show

>>84572980
I know you want to destroy me. Far better women vowed to do the same, and where are they now?

>>84576223
>any road

>>84573655
choked up for pompey in that scene
he didn't deserve such an end

>>84576223
she realized he was a strong man and that her husband was too weak for the world and so she resigned herself to be his wife because she realized he would provide security and a future.
It backfired but it shows the kind of thought process a woman had back then, far less interested in romance and far more interested in financial security.
This is expanded upon during the Vorenus family dinner when they talk about how they didnt love each other at first and she obviously married him in similar circumstances to Pullo and Irene.

>>84575654

Here's the thing: Atia was a cunt, but she knew what she was and embraced it. Didn't try to hide it.

Servilia, on the other hand, was a hypocritical, self-righteous bitch - masquerading as a good person. And her constant woe-is-me attitude was sickening. I couldn't stand her. Just my opinion.

>>84574618
desu I think its intentionally not clear whether he intends to become, or actually is a tyrant or not

just like how its unclear in real life, he may have genuinely just wanted to put the republic to rights but decided he needed a lot if time as dicator to do so

that said he was cao cao tier man of ambition

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Nothing like a good Falernian grape, is there?

>>84574330

ONCE AGAIN THE GODS SPREAD THE CHEEKS TO RAM COCK IN ASS

>>84576287
Shame, shame on the house of Ptolemy for such barbarity! Shame!

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>These being the words of Marcus Tullius Cicero: When I was a young man, I defended our State. As an old man, I shall not abandon it. I give sincere thanks to Mark Antony, who has generously presented me with the most promising theme imaginable. I address you directly, Antony. Please listen as if you... as if you...

>Go on.

>...please listen, as if you were sober and intelligent, and not a drink-sodden, sex-addled wreck. You are certainly not without accomplishments: it is a rare man who can boast of becoming a bankrupt before even coming of age. You have brought upon us war, pestilence and destruction. You are Rome's Helen of Troy. But then... but then...

>GO ON.

>...a woman's role has always suited you best.

>>84575167
only in the late republic did this behaviour become common

if not for the empire they almost certainly would have collapsed as a society, if you buy into the tough men>strong society>rich society>weak men>weak society progression of things

>>84576223

It's an alpha thing, those not forged in battle understand

>>84576131
why would troy even be in latin

did anyone there speak latin
I know their is rumor of the romans being descended from the last people of troy but im pretty sure that just mythos, many Mediterranean peoples adopted that story

HE
REFUSES
TO
MEET
ME

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>>84576430
This. Throughout the empire they actually got less degenerate as time went on. The high point of the Antonines gave way to the military dictatorship of the severans, and after the chaos of the third century, Diocletian's reformed empire was pretty much a state whose sole purpose was to prop up the army. After Rome became Christian most of the remnants of the old Roman decadence were gone, but by that point the empire was collapsing.

>>84576518
pompey is not an apple
and I am not a farmer

>>84575621
I can understand why movies and TV shows don't focus on historical accuracy.

Inevitably some one comes along and complains that it's good but not historically accurate enough because of some insignificant detail.

>>84576414

Probably the only time I've gone full chimp in a movie theater and shouted at the tv.

>>84576248
given what we know of Livia, and how she was portrayed in the series (and pretty much every single work of fiction involving her), good chances a hypothetical third season would have involved with Atia being proven time and time again just how utterly wrong she was.

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BEHOLD PTOLEMY. HE OF THE TWO LADIES. HE OF SEDGE AND BEE. BEHOLD PTOLEMY. SON OF RA. PTOLEMY THE DIVINE.

I think weakest part of Rome was that it relied on real history. I had read some history books about rome when I was kid so nothing really surprised me. I already knew what was waiting for pompey, mark anthony and cleopatra so I wasn't really eager to see the next season

>>84576524
>Throughout the empire they actually got less degenerate as time went on
>military dictatorship of the severans

Degeneracy and military rule aren't opposed to one another. Many patricians from Republican times likely had a military background as that was the requirement to hold certain offices, which didn't negate them from being degenerate.

>>84576342

What a dumb opinion. If I knew 2 scat fetishists for example, I'd had a far greater respect for the scat fetishist who doesn't shove his shit to my face

>>84573107
t. nubian slave

>>84576586
then again, the period of history it covers is one of the most interesting ones, and has a surprisingly massive amount of first hand sources

>>84576617
True but the massively increasing budget for the army and ridiculous militarisation of Roman society will have led to a situation where the aristocracy in the provinces will have been one with military connections, close to the frontiers and spending most of their time at war, and the land-owning nobility in Italy became ever more irrelevant. It was really the decline of urbanisation throughout the 3rd and 4th centuries that will have curbed degeneracy the most though.

>>84576496
>I know their is rumor of the romans being descended from the last people of troy but im pretty sure that just mythos
Oh no, that's guaranteed mythos, and not even organic mythos, it was a deliberate fabrication on the orders of Augustus himself as part of his massive propaganda war to reestablish order in the republic

>>84576565
I SHIT ON HER, I PISS ON HER!

>>84575354
TRUE ROMAN BREAD
FOR TRUE
ROMANS

>>84576737
>trojans
>known for stealing bitches from hellenes
>rome
>known for stealing bitches from hellenes

at least it works

>>84576737
interesting

I do like reading into the earliest speculations of where people on the italian peninsula first came from, I'm not sure what the current consensus is besides that they probably came by boat

greece or maybe from a semetic reigon like the phonecians?

>>84572195
Fuck this faggot the hoover dam is mine.

>>84576414
>say that to my face plebian and not over a fvcking scroll and see what happens

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yfw prime Purefoy

hnng

>>84572195
Yeah tis was a good show.

Now I mostly watch Magnificent Century is pretty good and comfy with the Ottomans.

>>84576815
>I do like reading into the earliest speculations of where people on the italian peninsula first came from, I'm not sure what the current consensus is besides that they probably came by boat
What people? Etruscans? Celts? Italics?

What's Sopranos? Is that like Breaking Bad? Dude I saw Aaron Paul in cinemas and it was insane!

I'm Ryan by the way, first post here. What's up?

Actually brb gotta hit the gym.

>>84576998
etruscans and the italics

>>84573107
t. egyptian eunuch

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>>84576430
>tfw in another late republic filled with degeneracy

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>>84576961
>Now I mostly watch Magnificent Century is pretty good and comfy with the Ottomans.
But it's tedious crap, the soap opera of the worst kind. I couldn't get through 5 minutes of this shlock, and I'm a huge Middle East-boo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDVyNNWNsj8

>>84576928
literal 10/10 casting

>>84574618
caesar was genereally in the wrong and everyone knew it

his populous faction literally had gangs beating people up in the street. fuggin comunits

>>84576223
now you know how to get the girl anon, the true roman way

>>84576907
What the fvck did you jvst fvcking say abovt me, yov little Carthagian? Ill have yov know I gradvated top of my class in the Gladiator School and I am a top ranked Centvrion and Ive been involved in nvmerous secret raids on Carthago and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gladiator warfare and Im the top archer in the entire Roman army. Yov are nothing to me but jvst another pleb. I will wipe yov the fvck ovt with flaming arrows and precision the likes of which has never been seen before in the Empire, mark my fvcking words. Yov think yov can get away with saying that shit to me over the Forvm? Think again, fvcker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Praetorians across Rome and yovr Horse is being traced right now so yov better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes ovt the pathetic little pile of rocks yov call your city. Yovre fucking dead, pleb. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill yov in over seven hvndred ways, and thats jvst with my gladius. Not only am I extensively trained in gladiatorial combat, bvt I have access to the entire arsenal of the Roman Army and I will vse it to its fvll extent to wipe yovr miserable ass off the face of the Empire, yov little slave. If only yov covld have known what vngodly retribvtion yovr little clever attack was abovt to bring down vpon yov, maybe yov wovld have held yovr fucking elephants. Bvt yov covldnt, yov didnt, and now yovre paying the price, you goddamn pleb. I will shit fvry all over yov and yov will drown in it. Carthago Delenda Est.

>>84577174
Its not really, yeah the length is a problem to some (every episode is almost 2 hours long), but I like the harem stuff, plus there are battles and conquests they go onto.

As well as the real history, they follow all the major events in Suleiman's life.

I heard they even made a sequel.

>>84577268
every faction did this for decades before julius got onto the scene
if you didn't have gangs you would never win a vote in the forum

>>84577268
Fuck off Cato.

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>>84577287
Better read this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SymcEAeYGOw

>>84575354
TRAGEDY

ON THE IDES

SAVIOUR OF THE REPUBLIC

GAIUS :::rowing motion:::

JULIUS :::rowing motion:::

CAESAR :::rowing motion:::

HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED

ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE. :::faces palm towards ground:::

BE

AWARE.

PRAETOR MARCUS ANTONIUS

BEREAVED AT THE PASSING,

SEEKS PLIANT, NUBILE SLAVES

TO EASE HIS GRIEF.

THIS, BROUGHT TO YOU

BY THE CAPITOLINE GUILD OF MILLERS.

theguildofmillersusesonlythefinestgrains,TRVEROMANBREADFORTRVEROMANS

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>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to HBO Rome, whom, as much as I admire them, I do quibble with. Rome had a very archaic philosophy: that if the consul was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. HBO can say that Octavian became emperor and reigned for many years, and he was wise and good. But Rome doesn’t ask the question: What was Octavian's tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these gauls? By the end of the war, Vercingetorix is gone but all of the gauls aren’t gone – they’re in Gaul. Did Octavian pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby gauls, in their little gaul cradles?

>>84577571
I really like how this guy was one of the most authentic things in the entire series

>>84573107
t. phoenician fuckboi

>>84573111
biggest tragedy in tv was cancelling this show after three seasons. wtf was hbo thinking?

>>84577571
i get fucking goosebumps just reading this

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>>84577653
They already had a superior show in mind.

>>84577622
So despite the tech difference, and the absence of mythological aid
How would Augustus, as presented in the series, fare against the GoT universe?

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>>84577571
>GAIUS :::rowing motion:::
>JULIUS :::rowing motion:::
>CAESAR :::rowing motion:::

toppest kek

>>84577622
Lazy Fat Man Hacks That Got Super Lucky In the last decade:

>Notch

>GRRM

>?

Who's the third?

>>84577706
he would heem the lot of them

>>84577546
Looks good, will do.

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>>84572195
Will forever be one of my all time favourite shows. Near perfect, especially season 1.

>>84577706
everybody is retarded in got
Caesar and a simple legion would steamroll the whole continent

>>84577692
didn't GOT come out a couple years later, or am i remembering it wrong?

either way, deadwood was fucking amazing. al is top 5 character in tv history. easy.

>>84577653

Same problem as Rome, I think. Expensive show to produce and ratings were mediocre.

GoT is expensive as hell too but it gets great ratings and a lot more attention than Rome/Deadwood ever did.

>>84572195
>ywn rape a qt slave girl in front of your troops
K I L L me now pls

>>84577970
>implying you can rape a slave
if it's your slave it's using your property
if it's another man's slave it's theft

>>84578011
More like trespassing.

Do they talk in a funny manner like the Romans in Spartacus tv show?

>>84578011
I am talking about the scene where Marc Antony casually fucks a slave girl while a whole army waits for him to finish. Dont ever reply to me again faggot

>>84578026
depends, raping another man's virgin slave, if it's kept intentionally virgin, is most certainly theft

>>84577706
Pretty well I'd reckon. Octavian knows how to delegate, understands that the common people want stability and security, and that his armies are motivated somewhat by loyalty and prestige, but mostly by the promise of pay, either as a salarum or plunder. Octavian's also flexible enough to negotiate if necessary. I could see him signing a separate peace with Dorne and Highgarden, and maybe the Lannisters too although any peace or alliance between those two would be just a temporary truce. The Iron Islands would be systematically wiped out, or maybe incorporated into his navy, the North depending on whether the Starks or the Boltons are in power, could also come to terms. Harrenhall and the Riverlands are too valuable for trade and agriculture I think that's the one area Octavian would fight tooth and nail for, no negotiations.

>>84578053
tl:dr: no

>>84578091
>if it's kept intentionally virgin

What, so it can be a Vestal? Don't talk cack.

>>84578128
Pretty sure the Iron Islands would get subjugated, then few years later try a revolt, maybe kill the occupying troops and subsequently get the Judea treatment

>>84578068
thats not even a slave, its just some random goat herd in the countryside

not like she could say no

>>84578198
maybe it's being kept as a gift for someone important who really does not like to share his slaves

>>84578128
Octavian is also willing to make peace with someone temporarily and defer a problem so he is able to deal with a different threat.

Everyone in GOT seems to want to fight every single one of their enemies all at once and then gets taken from multiple sides.

>>84578270
I also wonder, is there at this point anyone left in westeros that has the military skill required to compete with Agrippa?

>>84576223
Have you forgotten?
Makes them wet as October!

>>84572980
what the fuck she looks so young here, this bitch was on the leftovers too

>>84576223
That's what Chads do. And Chads swim in pussy.
Of course you and your beta stance cannot understand how shit works.

>>84578351
not even close

it seems like stannis and tarly and maybe robb are the only one considered elite battlefield tacticians (tywin much more of a strategist)

and I wouldn't place any of those three on par with agrippa

>>84577965
didn't Carnivale suffer the same faith?

From pliant virgins
to learned greeks
Rufus has slaves...
for every budget

>>84572195
HBO will probably bring this show back once they can't milk out the GoT formula anymore.

>>84578920
no they wont. rome has zero audience. most of GOT's audience are normies and feminazis who jerk off to how it empowers women and has beautiful dragons for her to ride.

none of them give a shit about a show like this.

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>tfw no spiritual sequel titled CONSTANTINOPLE

Only question is, which emperor should be covered?

>>84579039
the last one
just 1 season that focusses on the fall of the empire and the final shot is him walking down from the steps of his palace, taking his armour off and charging into the fray followed by a fade to black

>>84579116
actually legend has it that he turned into stone and he will come back to life once the greek army arrives in Constantinople

>>84579154
>aaaaaaaaaaaany day now

I would love to see a show set during some of the earlier crusades but it would probably end up being really stupid because the producers need to pander to leftists and their pet Muslims.

>>84576765

HE WAS A CONSOL OF ROME!....he was a consol. of. rome

>>84579235
consul anon

>>84579308

It's consvl you fvcking plebeian

>>84579195
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/03/greek-coast-guards-fire-turkish-vessel-aegean/

>>84579550
Turkey is still in NATO, if Greece tries something they get article 5'd

>>84579577
>americans supporting the roaches
typical jewish tricks tbqh

>>84579211
And what would that pandering mean?

>>84579039
Justinian and Belisarius

>>84579682

They would have to turn Muslims into noble savages who have a righteous cause.

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>>84579039
Heraclius, no question.

>>84579787
No-one had a righteous cause there, desu.

>>84579039
Basil 2, The Slav Killer

>>84579787
>Papal-blessed armed pilgrimage to reclaim the holy city of Jerusalem from the hands of infidel Saracens
>Not righteous

>>84572725
GoT was definitely better at first but Rome is far superior to modern GoT

I don't know why they get compared so much though.

>>84579901

>reclaim

That's an interesting word choice.

ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE
ANON OF THE BIGGUYS
I CALL FOR JUSTICE

>>84576430
>only in the late republic did this behaviour become common
even this I doubt heavily considering that you often see such behaviour described in a negative light and used for defamation, if degeneracy was so common and accepted then why accuse someone of it?

>>84579972
Reclaim on behalf of Christendom.

>>84579942
because GoT copied romes style completely

>>84578920
have you seen GoT recently?

If they'll watch and enjoy s5 and 6, they'll watch and enjoy anything in the GoT universe.

>>84580040

Yeah the Christians had a righteous cause. Do you agree or are you trying to say they didn't?

>>84580028
because it was like the victorian times

everyone was doing it but to ackowledge it publically was considered very poor form

they preached purity while practicing degeneracy

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>>84580043
This. Expect a Robert's Rebellion series, a Dance of the Dragons series, and probably an Aegon's Conquest series before they finally stop with GRRM's cancerous universe.

>>84580092
and just around that time Chrisopher Tolkien dies and they get their grubby hands on the Silmarillion rights

>>84580092
>implying it will ever stop
GoT is the first show HBO ever commission 2 seasons of at the same time. It's one of the most pirated shows on TPB

It's over. The fat man doomed us all.

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>>84580136
No. NO. Delete this post at once. NOW.

>>84577706
he would fucking wreck everyone in GoT, the most brilliant tactician in GoT doesn't even know that forward scouting exists, or notice one billion horsemen until they are right up in his face

>>84580173
You KNOW it'll happen
just imagine for a second what they could do with all that material

>>84580136

That's probably not going to happen. I heard Christopher disinherited his own son because he wan't to sell the rights to the SIlmarillion.

>>84580297
one day the strength of man will fail anon

>>84575354
ALL MOCKERY OF JEWS AND THEIR ONE GOD SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM!

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>>84580259
>*HBO intro*
>Part 1: Ainulindalë
>Morgan Freeman narrates as Eru, portrayed by Halle Berry, shows the Ainur a vision of the world.
>The Valar create first the Elves, a multicultural society who value diversity above all, as they journey westward to the awe-inspiring soundtrack (Hans Zimmer)
>All is well until the evil Melkor (Matthew Broderick) awakens and turns many of the Elves into Orcs. He employs legions of pale Men from the east to wreak havoc on the oppressed Elves
>Melkor's right hand man, Sauron (Andy Serkis) tries to orchestrate the final solution to the Elves and good Men but is thwarted by Beren (Idris Elba) and Luthien (Alexandra Daddario)
>The final battle involves a CGI Gandalf duelling Melkor on top of Mount Doom as eagles soar overhead
>Melkor is about to kill Gandalf but begins to make a long speech until Turin Turambar (Keanu Reeves) intervenes, killing Melkor for good.
>End of Part 1

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>>84576928

>>84577706
He'd rek everyone.

A Roman legion alone would fuck every military force, including dragons. They didn't fuck about. Look at the siege of Masada, probably one of the most impenetrable fortresses in human history, on top of a 400ft high plateau, in the middle of the desert, the Romans built a 5km wall around it in three days to prevent escape, a 400ft earth ramp in two months and then pushed one of the largest armoured siege towers ever constructed up said ramp before storming the fortress, all with nothing but legionary muscle and a few donkeys.

>>84577706
Even with the difference in technology (TV GoT doesn't even have plate armor the Romans couldn't replicate if they wanted to) and mythological aid, Augustus would still fuck them all up in record time.

He'd marry the dragon queen woman after defeating her armies for political reasons and be introducing her to the joys of rough sex before the end of a month.

>>84579763
I'd love this, provided they had Pullo/Vorenus characters and not just nobility.

>>84577622
> I do quibble with. Rome had a very archaic philosophy: that if the consul was a good man, the land would prosper.

Yet he uses the same logic for the Targaryen Kings in A history of Westeros
Good rulers and the kingdoms prosper

>>84574618
I think he said that in the vein of how Napoleon said "You can not lead a battle if you think you look silly on a horse."

They're playing for keeps and to stop and think "this is absurd" is useless thinking. Caesar knows he's not actually playing god, but he knows how the people of Rome will see him as. Napoleon has to feel like an emperor while riding horseback because every soldier saw him as a modern day Roman emperor.

>>84582196
>Augustus divorcing Livia
don't see it happening, he's all about traditional values and wants a proper true roman wife

Remember: last bitch that tried to seduce him to her gain got a bad case of snaketit

>>84582595
Poor Nappy, he just wanted to unite yurup and design uniforms ;__;

Why did anglos have to ruin everything?

>>84572195
I'm with you OP, Rome and The Sopranos are undoubtedly the two greatest shows I've ever seen, ranking one in front of the other is difficult but at the end of the day I think The Sopranos just barely edges Rome out.

The Sopranos > Rome > The Wire > Twin Peaks > Breaking Bad

>>84576646
what a dumb fucking comparison you just made.

>>84582678
Although the actor swap was jarring as fuck, the casting was spot on. Adult Augustus was properly cold, you could sympathise with Cleo when she came back from that meeting having tried her trick on a third Roman and just being like 'oh fuck'.

>>84576646
Yeah that analogy doesn't make sense bruh

Maybe don't tell the world about your shit fetish next time

>>84583159
it was the best they could do, the original actor wasn't old enough to portray adult Octavian

and that meeting with cleopatra was just fantastic, they both keep their smiles throughout but you can tell when she realizes just how badly she fucked up

>>84579039
>greekboy
>christain

nod my emberor, praise jupiter

>>84572195

>soldier guy being all edgy

Yeah, whatever.

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>No 1080p rips of Rome anywhere

>>84583749
>Not owning the Blu rays

>>84576223
That's literally how women are evolved to act.

>>84584177
AVE CESAR

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>>84580136
The Silmarillon would be awful to see adapted. Too many characters in too many stories spanning over several centuries, which inevitably means they'd go for a garbage & cheap adaptation. Like trying to adapt all the Greek mythology into a TV show.

>>84580584
pic related

>>84584776
think about everything you just wrote

would that actually stop them from trying?

would that actually prevent the series from being highly successful given 99% of their audience has never read the Silmarillion?

>>84584776

The Children of Hurin could be amazing so long as it isn't a Peter Jackson LOTR tie-in.

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>>84584897
Well, this could go ugly in both ways imo:
- Either they try to stick to the original stories and that makes you an incredibly slow-paced show which will get cancelled rather quickly
- Or (more likely) they'll adapt and condense the stories into an unbroken series of wars adventures between the Eldar, the Men, and Morgoth. This will probably see some multiples "original" characters or some heavy re-characterization of the existing ones. Possibly the addition of sex and nudity scenes, which would have made ol' Tolkien shower them with a hose if he hadn't gone to Eru.
They'll certainly try to adapt it, and yes, they will most certainly displease the book fans (either a boring and quickly cancelled adaptation, or something for which the only possible form of mercy would be a 12 gauge shot to the back of the head)

>>84585059
Yes, I agree, most stand-alone stories could be amazing by their own rights if you adapt them well.
The story of the War of the Last Alliance (the final battle of which is the prologue of LOTR) would also be very adaptable imo.

>>84578128
Sure, but in current GoT he's always at risk of some random character (probably female) coming up and stabbing him for no reason, then giving an ice-cold one liner while he bleeds out and then it cuts to the next scene and he's never addressed again.

>>84576414

And people complain about Trump...

>>84579116

i would cry

>>84574330
The fact that people actually believe this is why everyone think /tv/ is a joke.

>>84585357
All those Silmarillion storylines need a lot of explaining to the audience for them to make sense though, much more than lotr did since it is a rather simple set up. And even then Fellowship had a 10 minutes long exposition thingy in the beginning. I do wish to see a film about Hurin or some stuff from the unfinished tales like Tuor's journey to Gondolin. Maybe some day but i don't have much hope fora good adaptation

>>84572195
that feel when you cant make yourself enjoy cancelled series like rome and deadwood even though they are objectively great

>>84572972
The history in Augustus in itself after he became Caesar was really interesting. He was one of the more important Roman figures, but his crazy bloodline afterwards always takes the stage.

>>84572980
Brutus IMHO

>>84586348
real life Cicero wrote 14 separate orations against Mark Anthony and is one of the earliest known user of a "yo momma" joke

>>84577571
Oh fuck that's gold.

>>84586979
while he does have a crazy bloodline, it's fairly common knowledge Augustus is one of the most influential people of the past 2000 years

you don't get to achieve what he did without some interesting moments along the line

>>84586348
Trump doesn't have Cicero's class, that's the difference.

Rome and Deadwood were kinos that should have went on forever.

>>84572236
What sort of pleb moronic reasoning is this? Practically every series that goes past 3 seasons declines in quality almost immediately

>>84587359
>Politicians are not born; they are excreted

he could, if he wanted to, get crude

>>84582678
Real Augustus divorced twice.

>>84587707
true, but his first marriage was unconsummated and by all accounts Scribonia was a nagging bitch

on the other hand his marriage to Livia was considered the model for a Roman marriage and she acted as an advisor to him and was given almost unprecedented honors and authority.

Not to mention that all 3 of his marriages were to proper Roman women of good pedigree and the fact that Mark Anthony's business with Cleopatra was one of his most powerful propaganda tools.
So he would have never married a foreign woman, most certainly not a ruler.

>>84588035
I think he would have enough sense of Realpolitik to divorce and remarry whoever could bring the greatest amount of stability to the empire, and then spin the propaganda to fit the best possible narrative. And remember, in this narrative he is in Westeros, not Rome. The citizens of southern Westeros seem to have less problems with foreigners than Romans. My best bet wou, religious synthesis out of the sparrows, mother of dragons and son of Gaius Caeser (god) cult

>>84573107
t. Carthaginian cunnyface

>>84588365
If the scenario was "romans discover westeros with Augustus in charge" which seemed to be implied by the original post then it wouldn't make sense as such a move would destroy the charade he created that he was merely the first among equals in the senate

>>84573107
t. Celtic cocksmoker

>>84573107
t. barbarian beyond the Rhine

>>84573983
>The Wire
Get that dogshit out of here, please.

>>84582107
Imagine what he jews were thinking as the Romans built a wall AROUND their defenses

>>84588670
that they probably expected, after all Caesar had pulled the same trick at Alesia and he hadn't exactly kept silent about it

the romans starting to build a god damn ramp up to their hideout on the other hand, that must 'ave been the real shock

>>84588423
Yes, but he only needs the charade for the Romans themselves. He could spin the tale on the Roman side (of whatever wonky portal we have in this scenario, implying it's not a one way trip) of him being the Principes in Rome, but since Romans are inherently superior, he can still be God-Caeser of them dirty barbarians on the westerosi side.
That way he can have both cakes and eat them

>>84588742
you don't really understand just how allergic the romans were to a king

not to mention that after how much effort he'd spend presenting himself as the beacon of roman virtues against the egyptian king mark anthony he couldn't do it

his best use for the mother of dragons would be chained to a parade wagon for all of rome to see followed by the heads of 3 dragons for the mother of all triumphs

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>>84572195 yeah, didn't they make a remake of IT?

>>84584177
Ave Cesar!

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HE

>>84575354
MISTER VENTURA

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>>84572195
>Second best show of all time after Sopranos.
And both shows are about Romans. Really gets my almonds activating.

>>84574330
don't bother anon, Spartacus is the ultimate band-stop filter. Turboplebs love it for the blood and tits and patricians love it for the excellent writing and its ability to immerse you in the story. Most people are "too smart" to like it because they only see what's on the surface, but they're much too dumb to analyze it further.

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>>84576414
I felt so bad about that poor dude, why was Anthony such a baboon

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>>84572195
Have always wanted to see a full rendition of Virgil's Aenied, think it could work rather well as a mini-series, or series of sequels.

>This infernal image of the 1630s was inspired by the "hell landscapes" of Jan Brueghel the Elder which in turn looked back to Bosch. The subject is from Virgil, Aeneid, Book VI.

Likely will never happen.

>>84572980
Yes fuck her she deserved every bad thing that happened to her.

>>84584177
ave, checked cesar

childhood is when you idolize roman empire
adulthood is when you realize Carthaginian and Gallic empires made more sense and was much better

>>84573107
t. Iceni imbecile

>>84576340
Couldn't have said it better myself. Back in those times, most people, even peasants did not marry for love but for security and have kids. It's just what you did for practical purposes, especially when you have a farm and need help running it.

>>84578053
I literally thought at first only the gladiators talked like that since they were all technically foreigners and not proficient in Latin. Then I realized everyone talked like that and it was retarded.

>>84578128
>>84577706
Isn't there a fanfic somewhere in which Octavian switches bodies with Joffrey and totally does everything different and less retarded?
I wonder if it has been updated lately?

>>84575354

ALL MOCKERY OF JEWS AND THEIR ONE GOD SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM!

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>>84576414

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>>84572342

>women keeping literal bbc slaves

didn't the romans make fun of big cocks back then?

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>>84590447
WUZ

>>84592848

I need a "octavian is transported to another world" anime right fucking now.

>>84573107
t. Syrian simpleton

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>>84572195
i watch it at least twice a year. marathoning it tonight and tomorrow. definitely all of season 1, probably season 2 as well. currently on s1e2. comfy as fuck right now.

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>>84595017
are you me?

i think it means we're autistic

>>84580259
>HBO gets the rights to World War Z
>they do one story per episode and stay true to the book

>>84573366
THIRTEEN

>>84587011
Brutus was alright

>>84580584
>Morgan Freeman narrates as Eru
Fuck this. Sir Ian McKellan narrates it as if he's Gandalf telling the story to Hobbits.

The only way this works is if they stick to the major stories. They could do it as a miniseries focusing on the war against melkor and the cool shit like beren/luthien etc.

>>84573107
t. Persian parasite

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>>84595102
Maybe. Who's your favorite character? Me, I'm an Antony guy.

>>84573111
Deadwood is trash. HBO realized that saying fuck and cock sucker every other word for 3 seasons while nothing happened every episode wasn't worth keeping on the air. Good riddance.

>>84579039
A kingdom of heaven type movie for the fall of constantinople would be cool
Who would you cast as Constantine XI /tv/?

I haven't seen this show, but I have wanked to Polly Walker's scenes a few times.

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>>84595441
milky mommy

>>84573107
t. hun hag

>>84579763
This is something I've always wanted. So much material here

>>84587237
damn skippy

thread needs more boobs

>>84595326

Let's face the facts about me and you,
A love unspecified.
Though I'm proud to call you "Romaboo!"
The crowd will always talk and stare.

I feel exactly those feelings, too
And that's why I keep them inside.
'Cause this boo can't bear the world's disdain,
And sometimes it's easier to hide,
Than explain our
Rome love,
That's all it is,
Rome love,
He's mine I'm his,
There's nothing gay about it in our eyes.

You ask me 'bout this thing we share,
And he tenderly replies
It's Rome love
Between two guys

We're closer than the average man and wife
That's why our matching posts say, "AVE, TRVE TO CAESAR"
You know I'll stick by you, for the rest of my life.
You're the only man who's even been inside of me!
(whoah, he just gets me that's all)
There's no need to clarify (oh no?)
Just let it grow more and more each day
It's like I married my favorite era
but in a totally biased way

Lets go!
It's Rome love
Don't compromise
The feelings of some barbar shits
Throwing up your Pila
Into the sky
I'll be there to care through all shitposts
I'll be there to share the memes
It's Rome love
Between two boos
And when I say, "amor vincit omnia"
It's not what it implies

It's Rome love
between
two
boos

>>84582856
>breaking bad
stopped reading there

>>84590959
Marcus Antonius was the definition of a chad, but he was actually a fighting general that inspired his men, if Julius Caesar did not find that to be a useful tool he never would have seen the light of day. Marc Antony knew that his entire existence was because of the latter's fondness for him.

Whether or not he actually loved Julius, his life would have been forfeit without him. So it makes sense that he would have used his death as a rallying cry for the troops that were loyal. Shakespear kind of fuck up a lot of modern interpretations of history, Romans were less compassionate than the ebil nazi's

>>84572195
>ywn never see the planned Jesus Christ episodes because the Jews didn't want to have a show about Jesus and cancelled it.

>>84595873
>yfw Timon and the whole jew side story was trying to down play that future season

>>84595326
I liked Antony, but Caesar and Pullo and to a lesser extent Cicero (because he was right the entire time).

>>84595866
he was a dick but he was always loyal to Caesar.

>>84572542
just hit the gym

>>84595326
Vorenus
Posca
Antony
First season Octavian
Caesar

Cant decide who I like the most

>>84596020
But that could be attributed to circumstances, once Caesar was dead if he hadn't acted the way that he did he would have certainly been assassinated by the ruling class.

>>84572758
or three really
there isnt any good reason for dozen-episode seasons

>>84572804
Ha ha! Fat News Reading Man was dope af

>>84573048
theres tons of filler, like the incest thing, the whole caesar storyline, all the retarded shit with slaves, etc

>>84579039
>sequel to rome
>is not about rome
y tho?

>>84596049
Posca/Antony/Caesar was the bro triumvirate, second only to the Pullo/Vorenus broship

>>84573084
Ha ha! She pointed her fucken fingers and cursed that bitch!

post your favorite scenes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj8yq_urL5c

this show had so many great scenes.

>>84573146
salwe

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>>84595837
>stopped reading at the very end of the post

>>84596127
Bizantines were more like the United States after Great Britain fell.

>>84573167
One can appear gallic on the surface but be a true roman, you know.

>>84573295
Javert/Valjean edges it out but it's real close

>>84596205
WE

>>84596196
not really simce the US openly rebelled and made something different whereas the "byzantines" literally had blood lineage and considered themselves romans and were only ever differentiated from the western and earlier romans by others.

>>84573307
>tfw Gracchus

>>84573387
too harsh really
antony was far worse
actually, servilia did nothing wrong

>>84573403
anime

>>84573460
Lil Cato was a bitch

Fuck, I think I need to watch this again. It's just too good.

>>84596162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJvAHMtN04c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kPn07dzJEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnVH8x9iAM

>>84590530
>modern italian is related to romans in anyway
Lmao. This is what they actually believe.

>>84596253
The Roman empire fought dozens of civil wars, that's how the western and eastern roman empire became a thing, the Byzantines were what was left when the western roman empire fell (the sacking of Rome)

There are Roman women that are fucked by baboons?

>>84596196
More like Dixie if they had won the civil war and later on UK fell.

>>84573107
t. sasanian sissyboy