>I don't like the movie because of things the director

>deckard being a replicant defeats the whole point of the movie
what did they mean by this?

can someone explain to me what they were drinking that ep

>>84562176
replicant lives dont matter

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that Pest reference at 21:07 tho

>>84562176
The beauty of the film comes from the contrast between the replicants, who are programmed to physically die but are emotionally "alive" and passionately exploring life in the little time they have left, and Deckard, who as a human is perfectly alive, but emotionally dead inside.

>Jay has said multiple time he hates Blade Runner, thinks its boring and hates Ridley Scott
>Lets get Jay to do an impartial re-view of Blade Runner, he's sure to look at the film with a neutral eye

>>84561107
I think it's common knowledge that Jay is a pretentious pseudo intellectual

>>84563243
Jay likes (old) Ridley Scott though.
He even defends Prometheus.

>>84563271
When did he ever pretend to be intellectual?

>>84562226
Zima.
The greatest alcaholic beverage ever. It was made with wormwood which is said to be halocinagenic. It was banned in the us, but it is back.

>>84561107
Pretty sure it was mlre they disliked the comment and added scene. They seemed to like the movie itself.

>>84562226
American version of Smirnoff Ice

>>84563132
but i still don't see how that changes anything when you're not aware of the fact that deckard is a replicant for 99% of the movie. the contrast is still there. all the reveal and the end does is prove that they're so human they can even exhibit faults like chronic depression.

>>84563271
That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is his complete lack of self-awareness. I mean, is he autistic? Surely, he must have some idea of how he stupid he comes across when he pontificates about things he obviously has no real knowledge and/or understanding of.

>>84562226

It's an old alcoholic beverage from the 90s that stopped being made years ago. They recently brought it back for a limited time. It's a lemon-lime pseudo-beer like mike's hard lemonade or smirinoff. It's what girls brought to parties in the 90s.

>>84562176
No, the worst is:
>deckard being a replicant makes me not care about anything in the film
As if the artistic merits of a film are based on how much you care or don't care.

>>84563442
Which is why Jay said watching while knowing that he's a replicant

>>84563299
Which is exactly why his opinion holds zero relevance. I'll never understand people's needs to hear what critics think, especially when 99% of them are just as dumb as the audience they claim they are above.

>>84563271
The more I watch Red Letter Media the more this becomes apparent. It only got worse when Jay got more attractive and self-confident.

Using footage of Deckard not giving a fuck about Rachel's feelings as an example of Harrison Ford's robotic acting just goes to show they still don't get it

>>84563243
>Get a person who loves it
>Get a person who dislikes it

Two opposing views clashing with one another is interesting.

>>84562732
I almost came from this post

>>84563933
>It only got worse when Jay got more attractive
Wut?

>>84561107
It's just a movie.

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>why is there that absurd scene with harrison ford doing a funny voice and checking for holes in the wall?

Has Jay happened to have seen any film made before 1980, hmmm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHeIDPJ0V6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBM8guGUoOQ

>>84564057
Star Wars came out in 77, check and mate.

>>84564057
I haven't even watched this but jay is autistic, maybe the character just felt that the information he was conveying would be more pallatable if he spoke that way.

>>84563390
>drinking smirnoff ice
>not gay or 18
whats wrong them?

>>84564138
>not gay
*record scratch*

>>84564158
which one of them is gay?

>>84564138
thatsthejoke.tiff

>>84564057
>guy walks in
>talking like a private Dick out of a dime novel
>asking to poke around your private dressing room
>while you're wanted for murder
Gee, I wonder why he acted like a bureaucratic goofball

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>Colin: "Ridley Scott added this unicorn to imply that Deckard is a replicant."
>Jay: "And that's why I don't like the movie. I can't care about his character if he isn't human."
*later*
>Colin: "Then there's that amazing 'tears in rain' monologue and you can see it in Harrison's eyes that in that moment he realizes that life has meaning."
>Jay: "Except he's a replicant, so it doesn't have meaning! It doesn't matter!" *laughs*

Oh, Jay, you heartless, loveable rogue, you.

>>84564347
I honestly can't wrap my head around why Jay is completely unable to care about Deckard just because he's not human

>>84564409
He's seen too many zombie movies.

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>>84561107
WHAT WAS HE THINKING?

>>84564471
looks cool

>>84561107
They're right. Making Deckard a replicant doesn't make sense, and doesn't even matter anyway.

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post jay art

>>84563336
>halocinagenic

fuck off illiterate nigger

>>84564531
>Making Deckard a replicant doesn't make sense,
Why not?

>>84564594
because he has no replicant traits.

>>84564629
Movie Deckard acts more like a replicant than the replicant cops in the book.

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>>84564629

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>It's another "/tv/ overreacts to a RLM video because their opinions don't align 100% with their own" episode

I hate reruns

>>84564594
As they pointed out, Deckard has apparently been doing this for years, when replicants break down after four. Also, he's weak. The other replicants beat him up easily.

>>84564702
>Deckard has apparently been doing this for years
According to his memory....

>>84564706
And his boss.

>>84564629

Uhh, his eyes glow, haven't you seen the Final Cut (tm)?

>>84564706
his boss is a reminder that he's been alive for more than 4 years
or is he a replicant too anon

>>84564731
Why not?
Replicants controlled a whole police station in the book too.

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HE SAY YOU BRADE RUNNER

>>84562732

It's a Master of Disguise reference.

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Who else /hadn't seen Blade Runner before, but bought the digital version of the Final Cut on Amazon and watched it in order to properly enjoy the re:View/ here?

https://youtu.be/OKS75xb18UM

i saw this movie for the first time yesterday and came home and watched this re:view and found i pretty much agreed with everything in it.

my buddy that i watched it with also found it boring until the end and didn't care for the deckard storyline. the only interesting thing was the replicant desperately trying to find a way to extend his lifespan. that could have been a fully fleshed out movie on its own desu.

also harrison ford is an awful actor.

>>84564731
his boss is in on it obviously, why would the boss explain obvious stuff that deckard should already know otherwise

>>84564762
they don't even mention Leon and the tortoise dialogue

>>84561107

I don't actually like Blade Runner, though I love the aesthetics side of it, and I still thought their opinions were bullshit.

>>84561107
>I don't like the movie because of things the director said 20 years after the movie
Sounds like something you would read on 4chan.

>>84564409
Thats not what he said moron.

If Deckard is human then there is this entire subtext of the human acting robotic and emotionless while the construct acts alive.

If Deckard is a literal robot that also acts like one on the other hand then why should we care?

>>84564807
hi Jay

>>84564807
That's good. You should probably never watch it again or make any real effort to appreciate it now because it is, as you say, boring.

so it's confirmed that deckard isn't a replicant and that ridley scott just went insane like lucas and thought an m night shamyalam tier twist would make the movie more dense, ok

Scott jus a legitimate talentless hack, and none of his movies are worth watching.

>>84564960
deckard doesen't act robotic, he's an alcoholic mess of a man who goes after a replicant he finds hot

I think Scott just pulled all that shit to fuck with people and bait arguments. The point is the question not the answer.

>>84565016
>shamyalam
>the meme has now nearly come full circle to writing his name correctly

>>84561107
>that forced use of "glib facsimile"

Is this a new meme?

Am I new?

probably

>>84565016
That's really it. I don't think it ruins the movie though. It's just one scene in the middle that lasts a few seconds.

>>84565061
it's a 2 years old meme
I'm glad it's making a comeback but I wish it were more pertinent

>>84563616
He didn't imply this at all. Him not caring about anything in the film is WHY he found it boring which is a valid criticism whether you agree with it or not.

Hasn't Jay said before that he's completely incapable of caring about robot characters for some reason?

>>84564960
are the replicants robots? i thought they were bioengineered.

>>84565090
It becomes pretty evident by the end of the video that it's the slow pacing that makes the movie boring, in RLM's opinion at least.

>>84565105
They're indistinguishable from humans except for their lack of empathy.

>>84563243
When did anyone say that ReView or any RLM product is meant to be objective and neutral? Every RLM member has their own bias, and they're not hiding it

>>84565145
>replicants are slaves who lack empathy
It makes one ponder

>>84565112
I feel like you didn't even watch it. I feel like a faggot for even having to defend this. He clearly pointed out different reasons why he found it boring as well as why he didn't like the "Deckard is a replicant plot point".

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>>84564759
Couldn't believe it when i heard this, such a dated form of racism its like the movie was made in the 80's or something. Thank god movies have progressed since then.

>>84564551
>>84564639
>>84564652
Thefuck

>>84565202
Jay isn't the type of guy that needs to care about the characters in order to enjoy a movie.

>>84565272
So much going on in each frame.

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>>84561107
BRADE?

>>84565377
lófááászt, nehogy már

Who is this Colin guy? He just shows up without introduction, am I supposed to know him from somewhere?

>>84565377
>"No one cared who I was until I started running on blades."

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>>84565440

>>84565429
He has been on Best Of The Worst many times with that other red faced canadian.

The whole "Deckard is a replicant" thing honestly ruins what was otherwise a great movie all for the sake of a stupid, shitty twist.

>>84565463
Oh, I don't watch these, so I guess I skipped him.

>>84565471
Throwing in the possibility that even Deckard might be a replicant, is perfectly in line with the rest of the movie which asks what makes someone human.

>>84565486
>"It's a shame you don't have a next step in your masterplan!

>>84564960
>Jay didn't say he was unable to care about Deckard just because he's not human, he said he was unable to care about Deckard just because he's not human.

Great post.

>>84565528
Except he's flat out a replicant. There's no maybe. Ridley Scott has said so flat out multiple times. It's even on the DVD. There's no question about what makes someone a human. Deckard isn't a human. He's a replicant.

>>84565461
>"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Crashing planes in China and the fire rising. Theatricality and deception. Your precious armory. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... time to die."

>>84565528
>hey isn't the fact that deckard is a human but he's a complete unlovable unlikable asshole who is dead inside and alone while the replicants are way more likeable and passionate and compassionate and human pretty interesting
Yeah I guess...
>well too fucking bad deckard is a replicant, too
WHAT A TWIST! Fuck off.

>>84565599
He's only definitely a replicant in the Final Cut.

In the Director's Cut it's ambiguous. The version people fell in love with is the Director's Cut.

The Final Cut is babby's first Blade Runner.

Also
>thinking the director's interpretation must be the correct one
Dumbledore was always gay and Hermione was always black.

>>84565599
>>84565647

Why would you listen to director's commentary before watching the movie and making up your own mind?

>>84565429
He's fun, he should replace Jack, and that other guy should replace Josh

>>84565657
He's definitely a replicant according to the guy who made the movie. You can say it's ambiguous but who the fuck are you and why would you have any fucking authority over this movie? Why should I care about your feelings and not what the creator says is fact? Seriously, you're some internet bozo with a shit opinion that's provably false. Fuck off.

>>84564731
It's pretty fucking ambiguous- Deckard's temporary "retirement" could be a standard process they use to introduce the newest replicant Blade Runner.

>>84564347

Is this real? I haven't watched it yet... did he literally miss the entire fucking point of the movie?

He acts like one of those poorly written hamfisted shitty characters on StarTrek TNG - Who when they meet Data a unique, self aware, alive Android keep saying

>HURR JUST A ROBOT HURR LIKE A TOASTER HURR

Is Jay this fucking stupid?

>>84565688
Where does it say they watched it first in either of those replies you quoted, Anon?

>>84565695
Calm down, kiddo.

The director's word isn't the final word. Didn't you read Death of the Author?

>>84565695
Ridley Scott didn't make the movie single-handily.
The screenplay author and Ford disagree.

>>84565733
>"I'm just as, if not more, important than the guy who made the movie!"
No, you aren't. Go fuck yourself with a participation trophy.

>>84565732
How can something you weren't aware of ruin a movie?

>>84565760
>watch movie
>like it
>watch movie a few more times
>later, watch director's commentary
>movie ruined by director's dumb ideas

>>84565782
How can you like any movie if the director doing something stupid at any time can ruin it for you?

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>>84565749
The movie is more important than the guy who made it.

Thought experiment: one year from now, Ridley Scott says that Roy Batty was a mentally ill human with terminal cancer who escaped from an insane asylum. Does that make it true?

>>84565742
We aren't talking about the screenplay, we're talking about the movie, where Deckard is a replicant. If he's not a replicant in the screenplay, hey, that's a cool screenplay, but it isn't the movie. Really neither here nor there.

>I didn't like Bladerunner because there was a scene were Deckard was walking through an empty house

It's clear Jay doesn't like the film just to try and be contrarian.

If this was any other film and others said it was boring he would say "You just don't get it because it doesn't spoonfeed action scenes every 2 minutes".

>>84565822
There is no movie without the screenplay.

>>84565816
>The movie is more important than the guy who made it.
what the guy who made the movie said > POWER GAP > bathroom stall graffiti > your dumbass "theories"

Get over it.

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>>84564731
See, I don't agree with the whole "Deckard is a replicant" theory completely; but this argument is sort of flawed. Tyrell doesn't tell Sean Young that she's a replicant, he goes along with the facade to see when she will finally realize what she is. If the "Deckard is Replicant" theory is true, the same would apply to anyone in charge of Deckard.

They said that he couldn't be one because replicants are strong too, which I thought was odd because it's not like Sean Young was that strong. She would have tried to open a jar of pickles one day and tore the top off then would start to think something is up. If he was the same sort of "Let's see how long it takes till they figure this all out" model like she was, they obviously wouldn't give him super human strength. The replicants with that much strength were meant to be workers in the off planet colonies.

Again, I don't think he is a Replicant. But the points brought up in this Re:View are sort of half assed and flawed.

>>84565857
You can make a movie without a screenplay, and movies change during shooting from the screenplay.

So, no, you're wrong.

>>84565870
That's what I said: The guy who made the movie is more important than the movie.

>>84565886
>You can make a movie without a screenplay
So what? That's not true for Blade Runner.
The screenplay and Ford are integral parts of the movie.

>>84561107

I'm not familiar with the review, the movie, what Ridley Scott said but you sound like an actual retard using words you clearly don't understand.

>>84565930
And the most integral part of the movie, the director, has the final say, and he says Deckard is a replicant, so Deckard is a replicant.

Case closed.

>>84565943
>my opinions are facts

>>84565943

But in the sequel Deckard is still around... not a replicant...

>>84565958
It's not my opinion, though. In fact, I'd prefer if it weren't true. But it is. That's the movie. Deckard is a replicant. It sucks. Blade Runner is garbage. The end.

>>84565969
You saw the new movie? Was it any good?

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>>84565937
>try to impose superiority
>out yourself as a newfag

>>84565733
>Death of the Author
You know what's funny? The guy who wrote that essay at some point probably had to say, "No, that's not what I meant."

>>84565982
Is A New Hope a shit movie because the director didn't know what he was doing and it was mostly made in editing?

>>84566017
Star Wars is pretty shitty, yes.

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Why did both of them miss that the reason Deckard was attracted to and eventually influenced by Rachel is not just because she resembles the niece, but the fact Deckard's first love was said niece? I mean it visually hams this fact in over and over (the fact Deckard OWNS A PICTURE OF RACHEL on his piano in his apartment), and he angrily rattles off memories she told no one else except someone she was intimate with emotionally and possibly physically.

It is pretty fucking obvious and brings context to Rachel's relationship with Deckard, and their odd interactions.

And her lack of emotion is due to being pent-up. In the book in the end she fucking explodes and chucks Deckard's beloved live goat off the skyscraper with unabashed glee.

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Why was Lou Reed in Blade Runner?

>>84565969
And? In the Edge of Human, they reveal you can slow down the aging process of a replicant by keeping them in a transport container. Him being around later isn't proof he's not a replicant when there are ways for him to get around the expiration date.

>>84566060
>aging process

they don't have that, dumbass, they just die

>>84566053
Because they dumb.

>>84566131
But it is even more straightforward than the fucking unicorn hints of Deckard being a Replicant.

Wonder how the movie would have differed if they decided to keep Deckard's wife?

>>84566125
That's not how it worked in the book. Don't be mad that people know more about this dumb shit. Also, in the movie, the 4 year limit was only for offshore worker models, not every replicant.

>>84566184
So what?
The book is completely different.

>>84566170
RLM miss obvious stuff and get things wrong all the time. Not sure why people still pay attention to them.

>>84565836
This pissed me off too. He claimed to love Rutger Hauer and the scene he complained was boring consisted of Roy baiting and hunting Deckard in the shadows to spook him. Then once he senses his life is about to end (and possibly Deckard's) he loses restraint and goes nuts, a la "do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage into the night."

>>84566217
I was very clearly talking about the book. Again, don't get huffy with me, buster, just because you're wrong. I'm not making you say stupid shit on the internet. I'm not forcing you to type things that make you look like a fool. That's your own doing.

>>84566184
It did, Deck was pro-longing Rachel's life, not her aging process.

the lifespan was applied to every Nexus 6 model (except for Rachel in the theatrical narration, as the most dues exiest afterthought possible, but no one gives two shits about that)

>>84566284
>"deckard is in the movie NOT A REPLICANT"
>except there's ways around the time limit
>and he could just be a new replicant based off deckard that was recently made
>hell, even the replicant deckard in the first movie might not of been the first replicant deckard ever

>>84566249
>I was very clearly talking about the book.
I know. Why else would I have said what I said?

And I'm not same the guy you were talking with before.

>>84566221
They can barely handle capeshit films and constantly get basic plot points wrong in them too.

Imagine Jay trying to tackle kino like Tarkovsky or Kurosawa, it would be a complete shitshow. With Mike you'd expect it because he's a turbo pleb and admits it, but Jay thinks of himself higher than that, so to his pretentiousness get laid out in front of him would be amazing to witness.

>>84565029
In a very robotic way yes.

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>watching Star Wars
>Han shoots first
>a wild George Lucas appears
>"pssst kid. I'm George Lucas. Greedo shot first."

what do?

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>>84566365
>Re:View of Stalker or Seven Samurai
How bad would it be?

bump 1

>>84566413
Grow up past the age of caring about Star Wars.

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>>84566413
add an unused scene from THX 1138 that explains that Han is a robot..

>>84566425
>Jay, I don't want to watch these weird old foreign films. Who cares about movies made outside the USA?
>*puts on Stalker*
>I don't get it, Mike, its just three guys walking around a forest. I don't care what's going on! Its boring and slow,
>where is the action. If this was Star Trek there'd be space ships by now. Lets try this asian shit.
*puts on Seven Samurai*
>Ugh, the Clint Eastwood version was way better.
>Let's just watch the Wolverine movie set in Japan again, way more exciting and better.

>>84566544
I can't imagine many people saying positive things about the first half of stalker desu. I almost thought I had the wrong film.

>>84566544
Why would Jay bring up Star Trek?
You really don't know your RLM lore.

>>84566602
No you read it wrong, the first line is Jay and the second line is Mike.

>>84566644
So they're referring to themselves in the third person?

>>84566544
Who are you quoting? This never happened.

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>The original writer said deckard wasn't a replicate

>>84562176
This meme need to stop.
I remember one time it got way out of hand.

>>84563972
how new

>>84566677
No.
The first line is Mike talking to Jay
I'll add who's talking to make it clearer

Mike: "Jay, I don't want to watch these weird old foreign films. Who cares about movies made outside the USA? "
*puts on Stalker*
Jay:I don't get it, Mike, its just three guys walking around a forest. I don't care what's going on! Its boring and slow,
Mike: Where is the action? If this was Star Trek there'd be space ships by now. Lets try this asian shit.
*puts on Seven Samurai*
Jay: Ugh, the Clint Eastwood version was way better.
Mike: Let's just watch the Wolverine movie set in Japan again, way more exciting and better.
>>84566691
It did, I was delivering pizza while they were having a screening and I overhead this conversation

>>84565692
I agree, canadians are better than aidsmoby and beardfat, and anyone who disagrees is either aidsmoby or beardfat

>>84566783
The never order pizza because they ha e plenty of pizza rolls.

>>84566792
aidsmoby is fine once inebriated

>>8456679
Let's try that again.
>they never order pizza because they have plenty of pizza rolls.

>>84561107
>Jay and his alt-right haircut
I'm reporting him to the DNC

>>84566792
They're not the best but they're not hyper irritating and making super exaggerated and wacky faces to the camera after everytime Mike or Rich make a joke, so they'd be a massive improvement.
Plus we wouldn't have to look at BeardFat's mantitties busting out of his undersized shirt.

>>84566799
>The never order pizza

the what?

>>84566816
too late fgt

>>84566799
>The never order pizza because they ha e plenty of pizza rolls.
dumb phoneposter

At least we didn't have to sit through mike complaining that there was no antagonist and the movie was boring and the plot was confusing and blah blah blah who was the hero blah blah bah

>>84566783
is this a fanfic script that you hope to see them make? i don't think they do on-demand shorts but what do I know.

>>84566840
But it has a clear plot and an antagonist with lines and everything.

Unlike the shit that's Phantom Menace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auNIkLScGOA

>>84561107
I didn't like it, because it sucks.

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>>84566853
Is there a market for short films?

>>84561107
Re:view is by far their worst format. The (comparatively) lack of comedy shows how superficial they are. Specially when they speak about well-known movies like Eraserhead or Blade Runner and the analisis doesn't go deeper than "and then that scene happens and it's so weird"

They should stick to HiB and BoW.

>>84565599
>There's no question about what makes someone a human. Deckard isn't a human. He's a replicant.

So you passed the test?

>>84563132

The funny thing is Deckard figuring out he may be a Replicant happens when he commits one of his most "alive" moments and goes on the run.

>>84561107
I don't really watch Channel Autism or whatever but I was browsing the forum and I felt I had to remark on the bearded guy in this picture. I don't think I've ever seen a more attractive and self confident man in all my life. WOW. Nerds can be sexy?

>>84565220
plick

Halfway through the review, I can't handle it anymore. I'm gonna watch this fucking movie.

They're right though. Retconning the movie years later and implying the bladerunner is himself a replicant was embarrassingly clumsy and stupid for the reasons outlined in the review.

>>84563132
Highlighting this post

>>84563132
underrated post by first-year film student

>>84565220
>we need to talk about it
Stop.

>>84565599
Death of the author says get fucked.

>>84567620
it's stupid. if deckard is a replicant then everyone in the fucking movie is also possibly a replicant. at that point who gives a fuck? wow they're all replicants omg how deep mannn theyre like soooo human mannnn.

Deckard isn't a replicant. I don't care about Ridley Scott's shitty headcanon he came up with after years of being separated from the movie. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

>>84567272
STOP MAKING SHIT UP

>>84567402
t. Jay

>>84564057
unironically tipping my hat to this post

>>84565870
So everything Lucas has pulled out of his ass in the last 30 years is golden?

Think about that for a second then kill yourself

>>84564057
This is the post I wanted to do, but you did it better. My laziness and sloth salutes your industriousness.

>>84565657
I'm annoyed by how many fucking edits this movie has. I've got the blu ray and i can never figure out which version to watch.

>>84568111
i want to deconstruct these trips

>>84564731
>>84564848
>his boss is in on it obviously, why would the boss explain obvious stuff that deckard should already know otherwise

Also that would explain why they have Gaff follow Deckard's progress.

There's no good reason for Gaff being there otherwise(they could have sent a random uniformed officer to pick up Deckard). He's always seemingly a step ahead of Deckard, even at the end. He was there to make sure he stayed within his programming.

At the end he felt sorry for Deckard and let him leave with Rachel and tipped him about Deckard being a replicant.

Then the whole theme of all the human characters having some sort of physical deformity or health issue(Gaff being crippled, the boss Bryant fat, Chew old, Tyrell bad eyes, J.F. Sebastian with the aging disease, Taffy Lewis the nightclub owner is bald,). Deckard's the only seemingly healthy human male which fits with all the other "Deckard's a replicant" clues.

>>84569180
>physical deformity or health issue
>Taffy Lewis the nightclub owner is bald
hey now

>>84568985
>I'm annoyed by how many fucking edits this movie has

>counting edits/cuts in a film
the autism meme is real

Just watched Blade Runner for the first time today. Is the "It's too bad you won't live, but then again, who does?" line added later in the movie?

>>84569760
You got that line wrong, friend

>>84569796
Whatever, it's the one the Asian guy says. Something like that. Was that in the original movie?

>>84569943
Yes. It's been in every version of Blade Runner for 35 years. But the line is about Rachael, not Deckard.

>>84566818
You never go outside do you

>>84570015
Was the line that was something like "Have you ever done the test on yourself?" in the original movie too?

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>>84570037
Esquire gtfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIBKbhrniUQ'

So good

>>84570115
Nazis had the hair style first though

Plenty of hints that Deckard was a replicant without the unicron scene. "You've done a man's job", "have you ever taken the test yourself?" etc. The crux of their criticism doesn't make any sense.

>>84570101
Yes it was. And it refers to Deckard being an insensitive ass to Rachel during the test, not some retarded clue to Deckard being a literal replicant.

>>84565713
Shit, why didn't Mike do this one? I would have loved him constantly referencing Data parallels with Replicants.

>re:View - Blade Runner Part 2: The Next Generation w/ Mike

>>84570175
Was Roy a human? So many hints!

>>84570101
Yes. Deckard was never a replicant. The entire point of the ending is that it doesn't matter, at least not to Deckard.

You need to remember that Scott is same idiot who thinks the Space Jockey was a giant blue muscle beach Jesus.

Just because he made it doesn't mean he understood it.

>>84570175
Jay never liked it even before Final Cut and Scott's recent shit.
So he's just looking for excuses for his shit taste.

>>84570226
>>re:View - Blade Runner Part 2: The Next Generation w/ Mike

Pathetic attempt at comedy kiddo

>>84570242
This.

>>84570226
Maybe Mike hates it too?
At least someone on re:view should actually like the movie.

>>84570190
So, wait. Literally the only thing that got changed from the original version to the director's cut was that they added the unicorn scene from another movie? I don't see how that scene in particular matters that much.

>>84570298
they also removed the narration and the original ending with Deckard and Rachel escaping into the mountains

>>84566248
rage against the dying of the light*

Legitimately bothered me you would quote it without knowing the actual line.

>>84570298
They dropped the happy ending also. Deckard and Rachel's future is more uncertain. As it should be.

Serious question, Batty calls Deckard by name. How does he know this?

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>Oh, it was always my thesis theory. It was one or two people who were relevant were... I can't remember if Hampton agreed with me or not. But I remember someone had said, “Well, isn't it corny?” I said, “Listen, I'll be the best f#@king judge of that. I'm the director, okay?” So, and that, you learn -- you know, by then I'm 44, so I'm no f#@king chicken. I'm a very experienced director from commercials and The Duellists and Alien. So, I'm able to, you know, answer that with confidence at the time, and say, “You know, back off, it's what it's gonna be.” Harrison, he was never -- I don't remember, actually. I think Harrison was going, “Uh, I don't know about that.” I said, “But you have to be, because Gaff, who leaves a trail of origami everywhere, will leave you a little piece of origami at the end of the movie to say, ‘I've been here, I left her alive, and I can't resist letting you know what's in your most private thoughts when you get drunk is a f#@king unicorn!’” Right? So, I love Beavis and Butthead, so what should follow that is “Duh.” So now it will be revealed [in the sequel], one way or the other.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/22/blade-runner-turns-35-ridley-scott-discusses-the-films-legacy-deckards-true-nature-and-the-future-of-the-series

>>84570358
Leon probably found out his name when they nearly crossed paths at the apartment when he went to get his precious photos. Plot holes are not a clue either.

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>>84570360
>I can't resist letting you know what's in your most private thoughts when you get drunk is a f#@king unicorn!’” Right? So, I love Beavis and Butthead, so what should follow that is “Duh.” So now it will be revealed [in the sequel], one way or the other.

>>84570328
>>84570335
The version I watched had the unicorn "flashback" and Decker and Sarah escaping in an elevator at the end, which I thought it implied they escaped up North. Did I miss a scene?

>>84570433
That is the 1992 director's cut. find the 1982 theatrical

I'd like to see adaptation of the original novel. It had some interesting settings like earth being more and more abandoned and that those who can't afford to move away from earth are more or less retarded because of all the radiation affecting their brain. Didn't mean everyone was a drooling idiot but every character had some kind of brain damage

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>>84566016

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>>84570426

That is the best fucking quote of all. Holy shit.

>>84570483
they did a comic book adaptation of it

>>84570483
I'm supprised that Hollywood isn't adapting more Dicks books in general. "Three Stigmata of Plamer Eldritch" movie would be damn great.

>>84570707
Are you kidding? They've adapted almost everything worth filming. You even see movies with "based on a vague idea PKD mumbled one time".

>>84566053
>the fact Deckard OWNS A PICTURE OF RACHEL on his piano in his apartment
I thought that was Rachel's and she just brought it over

>and he angrily rattles off memories she told no one else except someone she was intimate with emotionally and possibly physically
Whoever implanted the memories on Rachel could have told him or written down what those memories were. There could be a file on them.

>giving a shit about their opinions
Seriously how have you not figured out they have no taste.

The whole point of watching them is because they're entertaining you autists except these re reviews and half in the bag vids are terrible. Actually their plinkett shit isn't that entertaining either.

[X] drink Zima
[X] make fun of the many versions
[X] make fun of what Ridley has become
[ ] say something interesting about the movie

I wonder if Blade Runner 2049 will pick up on the thread that never made it into the final version of the original BR -- that the Eldon Tyrell that Roy killed was a replicant copy and the real Tyrell was in cryo-storage like Walt Disney -- meaning that there's a transhumanism element to BR (also why Rachael has his niece's memories).

>>84571256
Who and when did they come up with that? Was it something that was originally in the movie and then cut? Or something that was gonna be a part of one of the billion different edits?

>>84565280

Jay couldn't even follow the plot of the Hobbit movies, why should we care what he thinks?

>>84570707
ubik and three stigmata would be almost impossible to make a movie out of

>>84564178
All of them.

>>84570360
>So, I love Beavis and Butthead, so what should follow that is “Duh.”
Unironically, what did he mean by this?

>>84561107
Re:view is shit anyway. Because they're plebs, because bearfat steps in, or Jack and Rich have the same chemistry than milk and Coca-Cola...

They should dump it.

>>84571295
Reddit fanfic.

>>84571486
no, the idea made it as far as pre-production. I'm trying to find the set design for it

>>84571295
It was in the original script. Parts of it can still be seen in the final movie. That weird shot of Batty after he kills Tyrell and he's standing under some kind of skylight looking at the stars, is supposedly from the Tyrell's tomb chamber.

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>>84571545
page 177 of Future Noir

>>84571642
>David Peoples explains that "The cryonic chamber sequence was one of the things Hampton hadn't wanted to write, I think. But Ridley really wanted that in. So what I came up with was a scene where Sebastian takes Roy into this huge frozen room and you see the real Tyrell lying in state in a capsule. J. F. tells Roy Tyrell had suffered a fatal disease, so he'd had himself frozen to wait for a cure. Roy then tells Sebastien to wake him up. But J. F. breaks down and confesses that he screwed up somehow in the past and accidentally killed the real Tyrell while the guy was in frozen suspension. Then Batty freaks out and smears Sebastian all over the wall."

>>84571930
>reading all this shit
too boring

Blade Runner suffers from what is commonly known as the "Seinfeld Is Unfunny" trope.

>There are certain shows that you can safely assume most people have seen. These shows were considered fantastic when they first aired. Now, however, these shows have a Hype Backlash curse on them. Whenever we watch them, we'll cry, "That is so old" or "That is so overdone".
>The sad irony? It wasn't old or overdone when they did it, because they were the first ones to do it. But the things it created were so brilliant and popular, they became woven into the fabric of that show's genre. They ended up being taken for granted, copied and endlessly repeated. Although they often began by saying something new, they in turn became the status quo.

Blade Runner essentially invented the modern Cyberpunk genre. No, it wasn't the first film to feature a gritty, dystopian future. But the sum of its parts presented something entirely new that hadn't been seen before at the time. Other great examples of this are Half-Life, and the iPod. No individual thing about them alone was new or groundbreaking, but all together it presented something refreshing and interesting.

I agree with Jay that Bladerunner is boring. But I appreciate the genre it birthed, the universe it created, and the visual aesthetic of the film. It's just that it's been done better now, 35 years later

>>84572465
>Hype Backlash curse on them
more like a dimwit audience curse

>>84572465
>TVTropes
Oh dear. Somebody call the reddit Catcher.

>>84565220
It is not racist at all. The restaurant proprietor is very clearly a Japanese man (he speaks in Japanese to Deckard when Deckard is ordering food) and the Japanese language lacks distinct "R" and "L" sounds.

It is an accurate representation of how a Japanese person, without special language training, would speak English as a second language.

>>84561107
Deckard had always been a replicant in the movie. The director didn't change it later.
>40 year old man pulled out of "retirement"
>This retirement was fairly long since he needs a refresher on the new models
>Literally no backstory
>We don't need his skill at the Turing test since we know who the replicants are
>He's not an extraordinary detective, why pull him out of retirement for these replicants he's never seen before?
>He's only really competent with a gun
>Tyrell has an interest in him
>Asian detective is standoffish
Deckard was a replicant back in 82, and they used him because it was dangerous work.

>But, muh retirement
He could have been days old when the movie starts.

>new reddit media video
>no Mike

>>84573536
"Seinfeld isn't funny" has existed as a concept long before TV Tropes. Also
>calling other people reddit
How would you know that, reddit?

>>84574005
>wanting Mike in videos now that he's turned into a complete fucking asshole who hates everyone

>>84561107
So you didn't watch the video?

>>84574038
what

>>84574043
nobody watches them anymore. people just like to fuck with the guys who spam them daily on here.

by the way, Jay looks fat

>>84572465
>Blade Runner essentially invented the modern Cyberpunk genre.
In visuals only.

>>84568373
But is true, they jump from one scene to another, and little more.

that harrison ford rubber face part was fucking hilarious desu

>>84574647
Colin should slowly phase out Jay.

>>84564960
>Acts like a robot
>Meaning in the modern version of robotic
>Mixing that with Blade Runner's version of robotic
>Meaning hyper emotional
Deckard is a replicant that thinks it's human, so he acts human. When he does something not human (tries to save the girl) he faces that he might not be human after all. Wew. Kys.

>>84574856
im not butthurt, i just find you fascinating, for i have never seen something as disgusting as you
not because of what you say, those are standard talks, but because how you discuss
you are for instance worse than trump and neocons, your logic is:everything they say is a deceivery and a lie, and what i have heard from my parents or read somewhere is true
lets put on a side that you're paranoid and mix me for months for someone else, and blabber some stories about "three grandads" and shit like that
you're probably aware of that, but this is some sort of exhaust vent for you, because nobody knows you here and except making fun of you we cand do anything
put a name or a tripcode and see how many people here listens and respects you
realize that everybody, everybody hates you and it doesnt have anything with your nationality but the fact that you're retarded, agressive and dumb
what do they say, "nationalism is the last sanctuary for scoundrels" so you every insult towars you percieve as an insult towards americans, you pretend you speak in the name of all americans
you're not a boogeyman, but you are frustrated retard
if it is true that you are 18, then i dont know, its over if you've not changed until now
keep stinking here on 4chan, this is your only place where somebody listens to you
and now goodbye johnny, dont cry

>>84561107
Who are these pudgy, middle-aged right wingers? And why do I want to see them kiss?

>>84565103

Yeah he said the same thing about Ex Machina.

>>84561107
Is the controversy from people not wanting to change their first interpretation? Jay and Colin first thought Deckard was human, and then redacted to be a replicant, whereas others know him only as a replicant. From the people that actually love the movie, where do you stand on the topic?

>>84575592
I wonder how it feels to be completely unable to actually understand a movie

>>84575619
Deckard is a replicant but by the time he realizes it he doesnt care

replicants aren't robots. they are designer people with no rights. that's why it doesn't matter if deckard is literally human or replicant at the end of the movie.

human deckard: by absconding with rachael, he is giving up his human rights and can now be murdered by gaff as shamelessly as he once nailed zhora

replicant deckard: by absconding with rachael, he is violating his purpose and can now be murdered by gaff as shamelessly as he once nailed zhora

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>>84566221
This video is the final push I needed to stop paying any attention to them. They're all hopeless pseuds incapable of producing anything of artistic merit, nor, apparently, understanding anything of such merit either.

>>84574964
wew

>>84577156
See you in the comments for the next RLM video!

>>84577156
That's rich coming from a Kojima fanboy

>>84566692
They were wrong about that, the unicorn footage and several other things. Five minutes on Google could have saved them from this embarrassment.

>>84577156
>This video is the final push I needed to stop paying any attention to them
it was the last nerd crew for me. I'm still posting in these shitty fucking threads though. can't wait for next sunday so /tpg/ will feel fresher

>>84577240
Where did the unicorn came from legend rumor start?

>>84577314
probably from the fact that the unicorn footage looks like unused film from legend

>>84564716
Yeah, him and Gaff are totally not "in on it" or upset that Replicants keep killing human officers, and totally wouldn't want to send a disposable officer instead.

>>84569760
It's edited. In the workprint he goes on to say "but are you sure you are a man?"

>>84566700
Could you give me a quick rundown of that time?

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>>84564057
How can Jay be such a pleb while at the same time liking David Lynch? His sole criticism of "boring" is utterly baseless, as it suggests the role of the auteur is to pander to his ideals of non-boring. He and Mike always talk about surface-level emotional responses to the films they watch, while avoiding actually talking about the films themselves.

>>84577222
Snatcher's amazing, you fucking pleb.

>>84577314
No reason beyond his next film, Legend, having unicorns in it.

>>84561107
>guy that actually works in the industry and is successful
>likes the movie

>guy that makes Space Cop
>doesn't like it

Really makes you think

>>84577859
>guy that actually works in the industry and is successful
Wait, the Canadian's are in the film industry? I always thought RLM just imported them as cheap labor on work visas

>>84577820
It's complete shit: derivative, filled with nothing but unlikable characters, awkward attempts at comedy, awful anime plot, shitty puzzles, and shitty interface.

I totally identify with the character of Deckard.
It's as if someone made a film about me in 2019.

>>84561107
Every fucking time I see a picture of this Jay guy I think "Oh cool, they're talking about Tom Hardy" and then I look closer and realize it's that scrawny e-celeb everyone's got a boner for.

>>84564409
Maybe he's a replicant

>>84570977
No, Deckard had them on his piano. He even has a picture of her as a child. And unlike the rest of the Replicants in the movie he doesn't hide the photos in some kind of shameful manner like the performer did, thereby unconsciously hinting he isn't a Replicant
>whoever implanted the memories
Tyrell and Deckard never directly interact. There are so many secondary characters besides the police chief that really bungle the Replicant theory. As said time and time again even by RLM, without Scott's demented decades later "oh I meant this!" the movie doesn't solidly hint at it, and it's not supposed to. Ambiguity of what humanity is is the whole fucking point of the film.
>>84569760
Autists seriously think this line is only about Replicants? No, it is relevant even if Rachel were human. The implying is that is it truly living to waste away in a dystopia, dirty city? Is it really living to sit in front of your computer screen for 19 hours a day and never see the rest of the world.

That is what that quote means.
>>84569180
The movie only dealt with Earth's condition on the surface level. Think they should have brought more context from Do Androids Dream to help the audience understand JF Sebastian, who is the POV of most of the novel besides Deckard.

He is what is called a "chicken head" and is that way from radiation from the war that made most the world a shit hole. People affected by the war and various other physical ailments were left on Earth. The off-world colonies (once they were built and prepped by Replicants) were for the genetically fit and Sound humans who should reproduce.

In the novels Deckard is asked time and time again to leave because he is healthy and had healthy sperm and has yet to reproduce. But his depressed mental, religiously obsessed wife keeps him basically trapped on Earth along with the genetically addled humans.

>>84565713
Go watch Jay's criticism of Ex Machina from that HitB episode
He can't empathize (with robots)

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>>84578157
Pic related, the picture of Rachel with her mother is on the bottom right.

>>84578208
So hates the Iron Giant too?

>>84563243
There's no such thing as a """neutral eye""". You watch/read/listen to a review for somebody's opinion. If you want neutral just read the wikipedia synopsis.

>>84578157
>Novels
Literately not important. They are completely separate and incomparable.

>>84564138

Smirnoff Ice is pretty tasty, if you're in the mood for something almost unbearably sweet. The problem is that it barely has any alcohol - just have a screwdriver/sex on the beach.

Hahaha I knew deckard wasn't a replicant.

deckard Is a replicant fags are BTFO

>>84578637
There is literally nothing to imply that he is human, and dozens of circumstantial evidence for the contrary.

>>84578522
>zeroed in on word "novel" without context
I was saying that they obviously went with the novel's aspect of why the police chief was fat, why Sebastian is addled, why Gaff is crippled, and why there were blimps advertising for off-world colonies so heavily. They should have offered one or two more lines in explanation. The reason they're the way they are isn't because Deckard is a Replicant.

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>>84578157
>Tyrell and Deckard never directly interact
THIS

>>84578637
If the CREATOR of the movie says he's a replicant then he IS a replicant, whether you like it or not.

>>84578718
FAKE NEWS!!!

>>84578415
He's never weighed in on that one, I don't recall

>>84578709
off-world colonies = the island = clonus' "america"

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>>84578718
lalala i'm not interacting with you

>>84578729
art is art and therefore open to interpretation, and he didn't say he was a replicant at the time it was originally made so it doesn't matter. that's like some writer going back and saying the characters he wrote about were actually aliens or something, there's no reason you HAVE to pay it any mind.

Why do people think they are smart for believing in Hack Scott's shitty interpretation of Blade Runner? Do they think the Engineers were Jesus too, and pat themselves on the back?

It has always been a stupid idea from a seriously flawed filmmaker.

>>84564759
Gaff speaks in hungarian:
"Horsecock!
Give me a break, you are Blade Runner!"

>>84578946
>Why do you believe the thing the film maker intended?
What did he mean by this?

>>84579244
>artist makes painting of a man
>40 years later he says it's not a man but an a robot
can you believe him? sure, are you obligated to? no

>>84579382
Maybe you should read the thread, because it's been Scott's intention for deckard to be a replicant from day one.

>>84579446
so he claims, many years after the fact. you're not obligated to believe him.

>>84579494
You can believe whatever you want. Doesn't make you right, or in this case even able to defend you opinion.

>>84579528
how did I not defend my opinion? you view a piece of art on its own merit, any extra information or material surrounding the film doesn't matter.

>>84579602
You come to the conclusion without extra information. Scott saying deckard is a replicant just verified what the film already showed. It was the intent since 1982. You can willfully misinterpret it if you want, though.

jay is a retard and a pleb. blade runner is still a terrible movie.