Is it even possible to make a GOOD anime adaptation? Dragon Ball

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>>84474094
no
2d should stay 2d

>>84474094
Assassination Classroom and the Kenshin trilogy and Nana were all good.

>those casts

Needs more black people, gays and at least one transsexual. These casts are way too problematic.

It's 2017 for fucks sake.

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>>84474094
>That is the gayest cast ever.

>>84474094
What's the purpose of a live-action adaptation of an anime?

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>>84474481
Studios are looking for the next big cash cows.

>>84474094
>all white cast
already fucked up

>>84474439
>>84474511
My god these looks perfect.
Hollywood needs to step it up. I've waited 19 years for that town to return to it's glory days but it never happens.

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>>84474481
normies are into anime now
I WAS TOLD THEY RUIN EVERYTHING
AND IT KEEPS COMING TRUE

>>84474094
Yes.

It has to be a stage musical.

>>84474566
The big guy is perfect, but the other two characters are clearly white

>>84474094
The last Rurouni Kenshin/Samurai X live action movie was pretty good.

Uhhhh... the Jojo movies are gonna be good.

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>>84474616
>Clearly white

Fool

https://youtu.be/VfNH7hit85g

>>84474624
Black butler was good if you never seen the anime. Which I hadn't at the time.

>>84474659
>pastely white skin
>honey colored hair
You're literally blind

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if you took out the story and compared to every other western anime adaption, GiTS did well. face it, anime adaptions typically dont translate well no matter how good the source material. even japan cant nail it down (see attack on titan, kaiji)

>>84474094
It will be possible with Idris Elba

>>84474094
It's been done for decades in Japan. Our Little Sister, for example. People are just too busy focusing on Hollywood and big name properties.

>>84474481
In Japan it's part of the media mix strategy. In Hollywood it's name recognition.

>>84474711
>You're literally blind

At least I know what Asians look like.

>>84474616
The characters are all Japanese.

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>>84474094
>bella thorne as edward

>>84474279
bella thorne is a tranny right?

>>84474094
more importantly, who are they going to cast for Ein

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>>84474782
They don't look japanese. You're color blind a nd face blind.

>>84474894
>They don't look Japanese
>Clearly Japanese in the trailer

Is this what trolling is?

>>84474894
They are Japanese regardless of what you think. It's just a fact. Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loAsiEUy7og

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>>84474894
eyes are too big.

here's a more realistic asian man.

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>>84474924
>>84474925
weebs have brain cancer I swear

>>84474926
Exactly

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Yes, yes, Cowboy Bebop is cool and all, but who could possibly portray the greatest anime protagonist of all time?

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>>84474964
He is making fun of you stupid.

>>84474094
Change Jet. Funny thing is he could even be a black guy and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Also I don't know how Daddario would look with short hair, may work but I can't tell.

>>84474964
I'm not a weeb and I don't have brain cancer. I am stating facts.

>>84474990
Young Audrey Tautou

>>84475018
How can he be making fun of me when I'm making fun of him. You gotta take it in turns.

>>84474094
No. Anime is actually shallow garbage that makes up for it's pathetically poor story through the animation.

>>84475126
Then everything is shallow garbage.

>>84475126
But the animation is bad too, it has less inbetween inframes than an average western cartoon.

What you meant to say was more ''detailed'' frames.

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>>84474439

>that orange hair irl

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>>84475126
>Meet a japanese anon
>Claims that anime is trash and made only for dorks
>Says that every other tv show is normal
>Go to japan
>Everything is like anime.

I mean everything.

>>84475167
Animation quality is not determined by the amount of animation. This is an incredibly simplistic and misguided approach to animation, but unfortunately the status quo in the West.

>>84474094
Faye and spike castingi just can't agree with. The attitude doesn't fit at all in my mind.

Ron Perlman works perfectly though

No clue who Ed is

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>>84474990
I dunno, but I suddenly want to see Paul Reubens as Gendo.

>>84475217
I used to watch a lot of Jdramas. The vast majority of them are ordinary.

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>>84475217
This one it's really good.

>>84475222
Naturally there's more to an animated show as a whole than the number of frames but you're specifically talking about the animation aspect here, which is of lesser, jankier, more static, jumpy quality than an average western show.

>>84475288
Anime has vastly superior animation than Western shows, it's not even a contest. Even if Western shows have more frames of animation, it doesn't mean anything.

Guys death note unironically looks good to me am I crazy

>>84475279
vice president's tits aren't nearly large enough for the role.

they'd have to get fucking milena velba to get an accurate size.

>>84475317
>Walking is much faster than running, even if you cover more ground in less time while running walking is still faster

>>84475319
yes.

>>84475371
I have no idea where you are trying to go with this analogy.

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ゴゴゴゴゴ

>>84474925
this is probably the most misinformed video Ive ever seen

>>84475319
It'll probably be a good movie, albeit not necessarily a good adaption. CG Ryuk was a mistake IMO.

Yes. Speed Racer.

>>84475423
What about it is supposed to be misinformed?

>>84475429
Are you talking about the japanese live action movies or the netflix one? Cause the latter completely ruins the characters.

>>84475427
Shit is he cg
I agree, but I'd hoped it was at least partially practical because he looked kind of stiff

>>84475429
There's no point to it existing. It'll be soulless, for one. The actors will never be as good as an animation studio and their seiyuus, so what's the point?

>>84474094
oh look.
Op is a faggot.

>>84475429
>L revealing his face to the public
>Light having doubts about his actions
>Misa being the trigger happy of the two and seemingly Light being the one who's in love with her and not the other way around

>>84475485

>Are you talking about the japanese live action movies or the netflix one? Cause the latter completely ruins the characters.
Shitty, I realized I hadn't read the manga since highschool so I am underqualified to speak to characters for sure. I thought it was matching up well in terms of the kind of tone of each.

>>84474094
the show is being made by the british, so here's how will it look like (and I don't give a shit if you disagree)

>Spike will be a white manlet
>Faye will be white, typical uk slag
>Jet Black will be BLACK, but he will not be called Jet Black only Jet somethingsomething because that's racist.
>Edward will be British Asian
>Faye will be a romantic interest for Jet
>Julia will be a transgender woman
>Vicious will be a sterotypical edgelord

You can scream all you want but that's the reality. I've watched a lot of the british tv shows and that's how they mostly look like. Just be ready when it's out

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Best live action adaptation that exist.

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Anime is thrash

Edge of tomorrow was a good adaptation
Did something new with a solid concept

Wasn't perfect but by far one of my favorites

>>84475565
>>Vicious will be a sterotypical edgelord

Good thing nothing change there.

>>84474094

Not an anime obviously, but oldboy the film was way better than the original manga, the shitty American version is the worst of the lot though I guess.

>>84475659
I disagree the only difference between the american was the ending. Which is better in my book. Of course i'm not an edge lord with yellow fever.

Why cant you westerners leave my anime alone

I heard there was a live action bebop tv show coming? Or was I pranked?

>>84475630
Edge of Tomorrow is a novella though.

The biggest issue of these types of adaptations are the scripts, not the casting

>>84475772
The original source material for these live action movies is almost never anime even though people call them adaptations of anime.

>>84475341
She does a great job, she gets the character and does the best jokes, seriously I didn't expected it to be as funny as it is.

>>84474094
If the characters are mostly western(or have unknown etnicity so they can be white) and the setting is not japan, sure! it is pretty possible.

So series like Berserk,Cowboy bebop,Hellsing,Attack on titan are all easy adaptation(it will need CGI tho)

The problem is that hollywood always pick the ones full of japs with jap names and hire white actor to play it.

>>84475805
The biggest issue is Hollywood meta data. Hollywood has a list of what sells and what doesn't and anime doesn't always have what sells. See the love story in Ghost in the shell.

>>84475834
I don't care, point is EoT is not based on an anime.

>>84475873
If you don't care then why did you even bring this up?

>>84475873
That is like saying American gods isn't based on a comic, but a visual novel.

>>84475856
>noone pays to see shit adaptations

Bit of a catch 22, because noone has made a decentt adaptation

>>84475894
I think you misunderstood. I don't care that you think most anime live adaptations aren't actually based on an anime, my point is only that EoT isn't based on one, that's all.
>>84475926
No, EoT is really based on a light novel. It's like thinking John Carpenter's The Thing is based on the 1950s The Thing and not the book called ''Who Goes There''.

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Don't worry, just saving live-action real quick

>>84476014
But the source material is already trash.

>>84475984
And my point is that other movies aren't based on anime either, so there's nothing special about EoT. People just think of all of them as anime.

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>>84475984
>No, EoT is really based on a light novel.

You kinda missed the point. Light novels are basically anime. like pic related.

>>84476090
Why does that matter here at all? That's just your own perception of things. EoT doesn't fit here because it's not based on an anime, period.
>>84476114
Are you saying light novels are anime because the covers can be drawn in anime-style? What? Nobody's talking about the artstyle, the cover of All You Need is Kill already looks anime-y enough, that's irrelevant here.

>>84475973
Hollywood isn't comfortable enough with letting certain anime tropes go by. It's why a connection between two kids gets turned into two adult who are married.

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>>84476170
What does it have to do with my perception? Dragon Ball, Death Note, Attack on Titan, JoJo, Ghost in the Shell--these are all originally manga. It's not my opinion that they are.

And what the other guy is saying is that light novels are essentially anime in literary form. Not just because of the art.

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Kaiji would be a really good Live Action movie

Oh wait they already did that. And it was bretty gud.

>>84474094
>>84475565
>>84475752
why the fuck would you adapt bebop when the anime is already perfect, it can only get worse. i pray the faggots in charge get aids

>>84476170
>that's irrelevant here.

Have you ever actually read a light novel before? It seems like you don't have a firm grasp of what light novels are. Pic related it's a page from All you need is kill. It's anime

>>84476228
>What does it have to do with my perception? Dragon Ball, Death Note, Attack on Titan, JoJo, Ghost in the Shell--these are all originally manga. It's not my opinion that they are.
You're saying that EoT fits here despite being based on a light novel when this is about manga/anime adaptations, don't play dumb.
>And what the other guy is saying is that light novels are essentially anime in literary form
What are you talking about? A book allows you to tell your story in a way that a manga or anime normally wouldn't do because you're supposed to express everything in purely text form (with maybe some guest artist illustrations every few pages so that the kids don't fall asleep). Manga/anime/movie adaptations have to cut down on it to fit things into an episode and a season. Books have far more freedom because of it.

I don't care if the book's dialogue is kawaii uguu oneechan, the point is that EoT is based on a novel and not a manga/anime like Death Note or Jojo or Dragon Ball Evolution or (god forbid it actually happens) Evangelion.

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>>84476383
forgot pic.

>>84476383
>>84476433
see
>>84476404

It isn't about the content, it's about the format.

>>84476320
>bebop
>perfect

Just like the movie, its could be about telling another story.

I'm getting real shitty with introduction films 2bh

>>84474094
oy vey im calling the diversity police on you, theres not enough negroes in this

>>84476404
Dragon Ball and EoT are both thought of as or called adaptations of anime, even though neither of them are anime. That's what makes them the same. And broadly speaking manga, anime and light novels are the same thing in different formats.

>What are you talking about?
You are really not familiar with this stuff if you don't understand what I mean.

>>84476433
you sure that's not the manga adaptation by Takeuchi?

No, and why would you even want it? So western audiences that can't stomach anime tropes or the "shame" of being caught watching anime can enjoy a stripped-down version of a good anime series/movie tailored to their sensibilities? Fuck them, they should never enjoy a single second of anything related to anime ever....they made their choice and now they can die with it.

>>84476495
What do you thing light novels are?

>>84476484
>Dragon Ball and EoT are both thought of as or called adaptations of anime, even though neither of them are anime
EoT is based on a light novel, Dragon Ball is based on a manga, that's what makes them different.

>And broadly speaking manga, anime and light novels are the same thing in different formats.
But my point IS that the difference is the format, why not say a book and a movie are the same thing then since the only different is the format?

>>84476556
Why do you think a light novel would need a manga adaptation if it was the same thing?

>>84476571
At no point did I say they are exactly and literally the same. I said that they are the same thing in this particular, limited way.

>But my point IS that the difference is the format
I know they have different formats. They are still broadly the same thing.

>>84476618
>I said that they are the same thing in this particular, limited way.
And that's completely irrelevnt since the point here is that very difference you just mentioned.
>I know they have different formats. They are still broadly the same thing.
They are not, it's like saying a novel is a comic book. They have a different name for a reason.

They are objecively not the same thing and that's my point here, I don't care if you think otherwise or think it doesn't matter.

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>>84476688
No, the point is the similarity I am talking about.

>They are not
It's very obvious that you have very little knowledge of anime/manga/LNs etc. I don't know why you are even here, trying to argue this.

>>84476744
>No, the point is the similarity I am talking about.
No, the point is that they're not manga/anime.
>It's very obvious that you have very little knowledge of anime/manga/LNs etc. I don't know why you are even here, trying to argue this.
Cool argument. I already specified the differences between LNs and manga yet you chose to ignore it and point out the irrelevant similarities when the whole point here is that EoT isn't based on a manga/anime like Death Note.

>>84476320
I can't see the music being as great as the original. Even if the same music is used, it wouldn't work. Most of the music only appears once.

>>84476823
>No, the point is that they're not manga/anime.
I already explained this to you.

> I already specified the differences between LNs and manga
Nobody said they have no differences or that they are literally the same. Manga, anime, light novels and visual novels and are all BROADLY THE SAME. They all feed into each other and are all part of the media ecosystem with shared aesthetics, stories, characters and conventions. This is elementary stuff.

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>>84476735
Why do you pretend that light novels aren't filled with manga?Like I said earlier it's like comparing a comic to a graphic novel. It's basically the same thing, but in a different format.

Keanu reeves as spike and hugo weaving as jet?

>>84476892
>I already explained this to you.
No you didn't, all you said was that you think it doesn't matter.
>Nobody said they have no differences or that they are literally the same.
You said the differences didn't matter despite the fact that the whole point here is the differences themselves.
>Manga, anime, light novels and visual novels and are all BROADLY THE SAME.
But not the same, that's the point here.
>>84476900
Looks like you didn't read >>84476404

Text-focused story with some visual aid every few pages is not a manga, otherwise light novels wouldn't need manga adaptations. Manga have to shorten that in order to fit the story into a chapter, otherwise you'd have dozens of manga chapters about nothing but the character describing how pretty that one building looks in explicit detail.

Again, this is about the format being different, it doesn't matter if you think they're similar, light novels are objectively not manga, just like manga are objectively not anime, just like books are objectively not movies. This isn't up for debate, all you're doing is trying to claim their differences are irrelevant.

>>84476892
>shared aesthetics, stories, characters and conventions.

>>84476442

>>84477048
>No you didn't, all you said was that you think it doesn't matter.
I explained why in this particular instance it doesn't matter.

>You said the differences didn't matter despite the fact that the whole point here is the differences themselves.
I said that in this particular instance the differences don't matter.

>But not the same, that's the point here.
No, my point is that they are broadly the same. That is what I said.

>>84477083
Yes, they do have those things in common.

>>84477092
>I explained why in this particular instance it doesn't matter.
No you didn't, you keep talking about the content when what matters here is the format.
>I said that in this particular instance the differences don't matter
Of course they do, the whole argument is about the differences, it doesn't matter if you think they don't matter because objectively they are not the same, and that's all that matters here.
>No, my point is that they are broadly the same. That is what I said.
And my point is that they aren't the same, which is objectively true no matter what you say.

>Yes, they do have those things in common.
Way to prove you aren't even reading the posts. For the 3rd time, this isn't about the content, this is about the format.

>>84474094
Yes. but hollywood has no intentions of adapting anything, they just want to bank on popular anime.

DB5, GiTS and Death Note all have the same problem, they are generic hollywood flicks with an anime title slapped on.

>>84477159
>No you didn't
If you are just going to keep blatantly lying then you are just admitting you are wrong and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>84477048
>Looks like you didn't read
>Text-focused story with some visual aid every few pages is not a manga,

You clearly aren't getting what i'm saying and I can't explain it to you in a simpler way. You also seem to forget what your original point was.

>>84477029
James Franco as Spike. Keanu is like 50 years old

>>84477237
Cool counterargument, looks like you found out you messed up since you didn't even know what I was arguing about, you thought I actually said the ''aesthetics, stories, characters and conventions'' were different when I never did and was never my point.
>>84477246
>You clearly aren't getting what i'm saying and I can't explain it to you in a simpler way.
You're saying there's no difference when there clearly is, I already explained it, all you did was post a page that resembled something out of a manga but cowardly left out the fact that a light novel is text-focused with some illustrations every now and then, similar to regular western illustrated books that you can find in any library (and the more kid-friendly the book the more illustrations there'll be), you don't call those ''basically a comic book''.

>>84477384
You lied. You blatantly fucking lied. You are admitting that you are full of shit. Fuck off.

>>84477419
Where did I lie? I've been repeating that my point was that the format is different all this time against your nonsensical arguments. Also those insults don't make your side look good you know.

>>84477469
Fuck off, liar.

>>84477384
No I'm saying there is a minor difference and you are being autistic. Light novels are filled with manga. Some even use those pages to tell part of the story. What you are doing is when I say the color is yellow. You are going no that is sun flower.

>>84477514
You didn't even bother finishing my post. I said that's no different from regular western books with illustrations in them but you don't claim those are ''basically comic books''. The format is different as I've explained here >>84477048
>>84476404

A manga panel will have a character saying ''uguu'', the light novel can have 3 pages of a character explaining in detail how that ''uguu'' came out like an angel choir and made all of his worries disappear. That's what I mean by a different format, I don't care how anime-like the book's content is, it's still not the same format as a manga.

>>84477655
>You didn't even bother finishing my post.

I did and I disagreed with it you pompous ass. You just being a hypocrite now with weeb fever. Also you still ignoring my point.

>>84477709
>I did and I disagreed with it you pompous ass.
Oh so are you saying books with illustrations every few pages for the kids are comic books then? That's what you are saying by disagreeing with that post you know.
> You just being a hypocrite now with weeb fever
How am I being either of those things?
>Also you still ignoring my point.
What point am I ignoring? You're the one that keeps ignoring the fact that my argument is the fact that a light novel isn't a manga, all you're doing is saying ''nuh uh''.

visual novels are more closely related to light novels than the latter is to manga.

>>84477775
>Oh so are you saying books with illustrations every few pages for the kids are comic books then? That's what you are saying by disagreeing with that post you know.

That is what you think you are saying, but you are either a really clever troll or stupid. Probably both.
>What point am I ignoring? You're the one that keeps ignoring the fact that my argument is the fact that a light novel isn't a manga, all you're doing is saying ''nuh uh''.

You are ignoring the fact that most light novels use manga in their story telling.

>>84474713
All you need is kill managed to get a decent adaptation with Edge of Tomorrow, why does trash like GiTS need to be the standard?

>>84475397
He's under the impression that more frames per second = objectively better.

>>84474094
Step 1: don't mention the word anime in your promo material

>>84474094
0/4 good job OP

>>84475772
Damn I didn't know this, I specifically avoided saying battle royale for that exact reason, too.

>>84474537
anime characters have white facial features because nips know that white is more attractive and therefore sells best. they can admit it because they dont have a chip on their shoulders like you niggers do

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>>84474894
For people who don't understand the art of cartooning and animation.

>>84481000
>anime characters have white facial features
They don't.

>>84481066
This isn't applicable to anime. It's not trying to make you think you are the characters. That's just American narcissism.

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>>84481121
Yes it is. It is the nature of drawing cartoons. The simplified faces of many anime / animation and manga / comics is designed to be universal to the viewer and help them identify with the characters.

>>84481221
It's the American nature of cartoons. Just because something is true in America doesn't mean it's true everywhere.

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>>84481221
Wait no. I am mistaken. Anime and manga are a higher art form than animation and comics. Anime is cartoons free of American narcissism.

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>>84481293
>Just because something is true in America doesn't mean it's true everywhere.
That's where you're so wrong, bro.
No surprise you're wrong. You don't live... in America

>>84481315
Anime and manga are animation and comics.

America is an extremely narcissistic society, while Japan is not particularly so.

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>>84481405
True. They do have some general stylistic differences.

Though I still say the universality of cartoons and seeing yourself as the character is in manga/anime as much as it is in comics/animation.

Though maybe Japan uses that aspect of cartoons in a more communal less American narcissistic way. It is a society focused more on conformity and fitting in with society.

Though maybe there are some more rebellious mangaka who do embrace more individualistic characters for the reader.

Of course maybe some use individualism of a character as a warning to embrace traditional Japanese societal views.

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>>84475565

>Julia will be a transgender woman

>>84481607
It's common for male otaku to be into shows where all the characters are female. The reverse is true for female otaku. They become attracted to the characters in a similar way as they would to real people. The characters are not an extension of themselves, they are separate entities.

>Though maybe there are some more rebellious mangaka who do embrace more individualistic characters for the reader.
>Of course maybe some use individualism of a character as a warning to embrace traditional Japanese societal views.
Individualistic characters are a dime a dozen in manga, anime and games, and Japanese people aren't some kind of worker ant robots. You've been listening to too many hackneyed stereotypes about Japan.

>>84474094
They try to adapt shit that is too tough to translate into the real world. That and anime fans are too fucking autistic to give even good adaptions a shot.

I mean why adapt something like Dragonball when you have properties like Claymore and Black Lagoon running around? It's nonsensical.

A Gundam movie could work

>>84481883
Claymore was basically dbz mixed with berserk.
Anime and manga don't try to make their characters look white, it's a drawing they go for style based on the character.

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>>84481734
>implying male otaku don't wish to be the little girl

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>>84481734
I still maintain that the human mind universally interprets cartoons as a projection of one's self not matter how communal a society is.

The themes and morals those stories teach is what differs.

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>>84482524
also, btw, this is not a shitpost

>>84482524
You are projecting.

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>>84475398
He sorta has soft features for Josuke but overall I like the casting.

Jotaro looks great except he should be built like Stallone in Rambo and about a foot taller. But I mean that's just being picky because where the fuck are you gonna find a half-White half-Jap 6'4" man?

The Stands are actually surprisingly well done thanks to the decision to had the budget CGI by making them purposely transparent.

cranston should be jet

ed is going to have to be someone really young. to be in character and to be sexually androgynous.

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>>84476043
>JoJo
>calling any Part bad, let alone downright trash
>calling Part 4, the second-best part of all parts, bad

Kys

>>84483165
A younger Ruby Rose could've done it.

>>84474439
>People actually dig this autism
How? Those 3 panels feels more plastic than entire holywood and California combined, there isn't people who act or even look like that IRL

The point of a live action is to bring something closer to what it would look like in our world and not do some cosplayer indie-film type of shit

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>>84483107
I just saw the trailer and the stands actually look pretty decent, hopefully the movie will be good.