You think he'll ever make a movie or is he too afraid of

>>84364832
He'll gather an interesting cast and crew, post some very intriguing production design prepwork, maybe even make a short teaser or two and then dip the fuck out of project like he always does

>>84364832
What was MGS4 but a Direct to PS3 Movie?

Why are video games held to such a lower standard than film, music, literature, theatre. Etc? Has there truly been a video game that can stand with the likes of lynch, kurosawa, or even kubrick?

>>84364832
I want him as the batgrown ninja in the movie adaptation of neuromancer
Hideo as Hideo

>>84365267
No, not even close. The best of games is decent genre fiction at best so something like what Nolan does - sure

>>84365267
Bloodborne, and I'm not even talking about gameplay. Which is obviously a huge part of it.

>>84365267
planescape:torment
new vegas

>>84365267
MGS3
Every other answer is just retarded

>>84365267
Because in videogames the "artist" is the player who chooses how to experience the game, while in films/music/literature you get a fixed artistic expression that can’t be changed.

And face it, most people (players) are sub-intelligent brainlets.

>>84365443
MGS3 is literally worst in the series storywise.

MGS2 otherhand is totally unique in medium and there will never be a movie that can replicate it.

>>84365428
LMAO. Genre fiction tier. Planescape is barely deeper than Capeshit

>>84365415

got bored after 30 minutes whats the appeal?

>>84365472
By that you obviously mean found it too hard and didn't know how to progress. There is literally no other reason someone would play bloodborne for the first time and turn it off after 30 minutes.

>>84364832
He cant tell a coherent story without endless exposition. He's not good enough as a writer to even make a flick

>>84365267
Silent hill 2 is pure kino

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>>84365469
>MGS3 is literally worst in the series storywise
It's literally the only game other than 1 worth playing for story

>these are the people you share a board with

>>84364832
MGS4 was basically a movie.
also P.T. was utterly terrifying, it might be scarier than any horror movie

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>i'm sharing a board with /v/ posters

>>84365521
You're part right.
MGS 1 and 2 were very good in their own right. Later he went full Lucas and was worshipped by "yes-men". Most japanese storytellers go way overboard and have no subtlety. MGS1&2 were perfect mix.

>>84365670
>also P.T. was utterly terrifying, it might be scarier than any horror movie

Not a huge mgs fan but that was fucking brilliant. Certainly scarier than any film as an adult anyway.

>>84365681
You cant have /tv/ without /v/ my man

>>84365716
i'd rather just have /t/

>>84365636
Tell me what MGS2 and MGS3 story is about.

>>84365681
When the games being mentioned are mgs, bloodborne and silenthill, then there's nothing wrong with that.

>>84365521

Yes, he is perfect for modern cinema

>>84364832
>higher standards
>Wonder Woman

>>84365469
The Iroquois Pliskin plot hole killed it for me

>>84365775
I bet you like capeshit.

>>84365636
>posts meme emoji twitter shit
stop being underage

>>84365815
I fucking hate capeshit. The only one I've watched in my entire adult hood was the dark knight. Nobody is impressed that you don't like video games. I don't go to /v/ either.

>>84364832

I think he wants to blend in movie-like things with gameplay now that he has true creative freedom after leaving Konami.

Yeah we can joke about LOL MGS4 WAS ALREADY A GAME-MOVIE but seriously, there's no reason he can't make a half-movie with good story. Death Stranding already has well known actors in it, no reason why the story AND gameplay can't enchant you into going deeper into the world he created. I don't like that the liberal cuck Del Toro is involved but it should be minimal enough that it won't ruin the experience.

If anything he should direct a CGI movie, maybe even a prequel Death Stranding movie or something. If he wanted to just do movies he would have done so, but I think he really likes video games and wants to push the medium further.

>>84365911
I wish i was you tbhfam

>>84365756
MGS2 is about Raiden, completely irrelevant to the overall storyline.
MGS3 is about why Big Boss formed his own private army/nation after leaving the US army. This would lead to the creation of Zanzibar land and Outer Heaven, and the events of MG1/2, MGS1, Peace Walker and MGS5. Pretty significant.

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>>84364832
>higher standards of movies
>two hour toy commercials get 90%+ on RT regularly

Yeah, nah.

>>84365969
justburself

>>84364832
How does vidya directing work? Why are there so few "autuers"? Someone pls explain.

>>84364832
>higher standards of movies

Have you seen a hollywood movie in the past 30 years?

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Hideo cannot be trusted to write anything

He doesn't understand the world the way us humans do

>>84364832
he can create story and characters for good movie help with the script and maybe give some ideas while filming but thats about it to be success the movie will need good director and writers he cant direct good movie alone

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>>84365521

>>84365706
Peacewalker was good because he had to go Lucas 1977 and be constrained by the tech

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He should direct porn

>>84365267
Bloodborne

>>84365994
MGS2 is not about Raiden at all. Its about (you). Its about information and war for information. The game predicted modern internet culture and societies within it. The themes in MGS2 are huge and the presentation is unique which can never be achieved through one-way storytelling what cinema is.

3 is about patrionism. Thats the main reason why Boss did what she did and why they had the last nugget of respect to eachother. Too bad Big Boss didnt really evolve as a characterer.

>>84365814
What's the plot hole?

>>84365383
Silent hill 2 is kino, much better than any of the films nolan made

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>>84366301

>>84366249
based kojimbo

>>84366301
We really need a remake of the orginal metal gear. So much of the outer heaven lore is missing.

>>84366116
thats pretty good for game even for a movie where market is overload with zombies this is pretty original idea

>>84366385
People tried, got the original designer and David Hayter on board before Konami shut them down

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>>84365681
>i'm sharing a board with /sp/ posters

>>84366249
That was for a good reason desu. Snake is supposed to be the ideal, surpassing Raiden in every way. He even has a bigger health bar at the end of the game.

Kojima can edit and direct a mean trailer.
Seriously, as terrible as MGSV ended up, those trailers were fantastic, and Death Stranding has that same quality.

>>84365469
While I do agree that MGS2 did use the medium of gaming unlike any other game, plenty of movies have used postmodern narrative.

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>>84366416
>bigger health bar

Yeah, that too

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>>84366415

>>84364832
who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXKkeFUvgTM

Was it kino?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pPXuFNGEr8

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>>84366322
>This nigga know whats up
Nolan is shit pleb tier who get anime ideas and present them as original movies..... also he copy pasta whole scenes and cinematography

Silent Hill 2 is pure ART

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>>84366573
>>84366604

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>>84365267
The Witcher 3/Snake Eater/(havent played bloudbourne but it looks dope)/Darkest Dungeon(imagery/atmosphere/narration)

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>>84366685
you alright nigga none of this cant even compete

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Stop all the Kornheiser spam.

>>84365267
>Has there truly been a video game that can stand with the likes of lynch, kurosawa, or even kubrick?
No. But the viewer doesn't have any agency in any other format, they're passive experiences, even when it really makes you think, you don't have to do anything besides sit there.
Vidya isn't an art, but it is an avenue for personal agency that by definition is impossible in other mediums.

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>>84365415
>>84365267
>>84365383
>>84365428
>>84365443
>>84365561
>>84366685
All wrong

And I can tell you've all only been playing vidya since the Ps2 era at the earliest

The only video game that could be considered "art" or on the same level as those movies you mentioned is Killer 7


There was like a 400 thread about this years ago when /v/ and /tv/ were good

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nuHEGhwiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6goa1pI_az8
so deep and mature!

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>>84366892

>Making his debut at his 50s

too late

>>84365469

>Being a contrarion for cool points on a metis arrow fletching board.

>>84366573
>>84366604
>>84366643
>>84366744
what's his name again? it's something with a K right

>>84365267
>Why are video games held to such a lower standard than film, music, literature, theatre. Etc?
Because it's a worthless medium for children.

>Has there truly been a video game that can stand with the likes of lynch, kurosawa, or even kubrick?
Of course not. Don't be a fucking moron.

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>>84365521
He can't tell a coherent story at all. The only reason he isn't a laughingstock is that he works in a medium held to lower standards than comic books.

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>>84365267
The closest is Ive played is Red Dead Redemption. I don't understand why is it so hard for developers to give their games a cohesive theme that explores and reinforces them. Even MGS games are just the characters outright stating what their characters represent, no subtly.

I feel like Kojima could make a great movie, but he would need guidance. He always gets too blinded by celebrities or distracted by trends/details.
What I like about the man is that he likes everything, though. Nothing is too away from enjoyment for him.

>>84366972
>phoneposter promotes goichi's pretentious le good versus le evil cel shaded short-ass, monotonous and linear game as a masterpiece
You tried, I bet you think MGS2 is about epic memes and not the information age. Just because your game is less famous and a cakewalk doesn't mean it's better. We may be plebs, but you're a poser.

>>84367242
>implying RDR isn't just a bunch of (better) western movies mashed together for an audience that can't tell the difference because they've never seen any westerens because they "don't like old movies"

>>84367136
Kornheiser

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>>84364832
holy shit all these ebert wannabes ITT

pls remove your head from your anus, you're unironically comparing apples and oranges for the sake of looking superior on an image board where the most attention your belief will get is a possible agree/disagree from another nobody if you're going to try to discuss the topic legitimately, at least pretend to know what you're talking about, film, video games, or otherwise, because the majority of the posts in here indicate most of you have little to no familiarity with one or the other, when in order to really make your baseless comparisons, you require extensive understanding of both, otherwise you're just being tagged in a circlejerk you willfully engaged in to feel better about your own preferences, which are probably garbage anyway

>>84366770
I find the art of Darkest Dungeon to be as memorable as something like Howls castle. But that might be because I have no nostalgia towards these films unlike the dweebs that say his films are the end all be all of animation

>>84365267
Silent Hill 2 made the best use of the medium. But at the end of the day it's still the lowest form of entertainment, made to keep losers busy.

>>84367282
No, I actually agree with MGS2 being up there too

Not MGS3

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>>84367596
people that shit on gaming but praise silent hill 2 are certain to have two qualities
>they've never actually played silent hill 2, and are parroting to sound relevant to the discussion, probably watched a let's play or read the plot on wikipedia
>they've never played anything that wasn't AAA tripe, and so conclude that silent hill 2 must be the end all be all of video game entertainment as a medium
plebs who stick out like a sore thumb desu

>>84367304
It really isn't, like it hops from from being a classic western to a zappata western but its never simply a blatant mashup. Its a silly criticism anyhow as the western genre is very incestuous and some of the best heavily build upon the previous ones. A film equivalent would be something like Indiana Jones or Star Wars, good films that were heavily inspired by serial that most people haven't watched. And there is nothing wrong with that.

>>84367503
>everyone here is dumb but me

You are welcome to join the discussion and actually give us your well researched thoughts

>>84367868
..but that's exactly what i did though

>>84366320
Snake died on the tanker accident 2 years ago

>>84365019
Either that or it'll happen, but it turns out it's just Metal Gear Solid again

>>84367897
your thoughts are dumb.

you can still compare a book and a movie despite being different mediums.

>>84365469
this post is literally the worst in the thread

>>84365267
Absolutely not but some games like Shadow of the Colossus and even Portal 1 can really take advantage of the medium the way movies never could. There's a reason video game films always fail and it's not just incompetence

In terms of a genuinely good story, Red Dead Redemption is probably the best I've played. Some of the Ratchet and Clank titles are Pixar tier too

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>>84368049
yes you can, but you're not going to happen upon some massive revelation in doing so, especially if you've only ever scratched the surface of one or the other; like i said, it's just a willful circlejerk of personal validation, not some incredibly intellectual deconstruction of the mediums

visit any
>U GUYZ WHO WULD U CAST IN BLOOD MERIDIAN
thread and you'll see much of the same attitude, only the prejudice will substitute literature for games, music, anime, so on and so forth

literal grade school-tier arguments masquerading as some sort of pseudo intellectual criticism toward something a large portion of the people posting said arguments would openly admit they have what is the equivalent of a drop in a buckets worth of experience with

tl;dr - this shit is stupid, so are you, and so am i for spoonfeeding

>>84365267
They're not necessarily held to "lower" standards, just different standards -- since they are different mediums and shouldn't be judged by the same metrics.

>>84366427
MGSV would have been a lot better if they didn't cut as much dialogue as they did, especially Snake's dialogue, which is especially confusing to me because I don't imagine it was cheap to get Kiefer Sutherland to record all those lines that they just ended up not using, and maybe if it ddidn't have the exact plot twist it did so it could function as a relevant part of the broader narrative and actually give character to Big Boss instead of some fuckin random brainwashed helicopter medic with plastic surgery.

>>84367304
Especifically, what Westerns does RDR mash together? Is there a list? My taste in western movies is pretty entry level

>>84365267
Spec Ops: The Line

Its critique of the desensitization, blood lust and lack of critical thinking of its players would have never worked anywhere near as well as a movie. Some directors have tried (like in Funny Games US or some war films) and never reached such heights.

>>84368470
Not him but Unforgiven, True Grit and The Searchers are the most similar that I've seen

>>84368272
>but you're not going to happen upon some massive revelation in doing so, especially if you've only ever scratched the surface of one or the other; like i said, it's just a willful circlejerk of personal validation, not some incredibly intellectual deconstruction of the mediums

literally what are you even going on about you atuist. You seem to be projecting a lot of things to a simple movie/game discussion. The irony is that the most pretentious person in this thread is you.

>>84365267
Mario Bros is actually pretty cool.

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>>84368588
>can't understand a basic statement
>resorts to ignoring the basis of the post in favor of making insults to save face on an anonymous image board
you're a living example of exactly what i was referring to

don't reply to me again, i already fucked up when i treated you like a person capable of rational thought, my sincerest apologies

>>84367503
>>84368272
>>84368743
no one gives a fuck

stop shitting up the thread

>>84368743

You are a caricature of the 4channer who views himself as superior to his peers without realizing that he is equally as dumb despite his mastery of funny image macros and witty green text.

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>>84368933
>doesn't give a fuck
>references every post i've made in order to show me what little fucks anyone gives
your actions betray your sentiments, anon

you missed one, too
>>84368953
>literally "i know you are but what am i" the post
based anon making my grade school analogy on point, thanks for that!

>>84365797
the shittiest b movie still has better production, story and photography than 90% of games

>>84369029
See: >>84368933

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>>84369066
see:>>84369029

>>84368743
lol

He meanders too much too effectively create a narrative in a smaller medium such as film. TV maybe, but other than that, the style he created is best suited for video games.

>>84369029
o-okay anon, we I child intellect and we dumb

>>84368470
West Dickens characters is basically the oil salesman from Josey Wales

>>84369253
>we
no, just you and i was aware of your mental incapacity long before you admitted to it :D

>>84368491
the closest thing would actually be starship troopers or ender's game

>>84368491
also black mirror does an episode like that too

none of it pull off the twist as well though

>>84364832
He's made several movies.

>>84369393
This is actually a good analogy but they're more american war culture satires than really judging the audience imo (at least ST I haven't seen Enders Game), like how glorifying our soldiers and good vs evil is a bad thing. The inherent sadism of watching them fight at all isn't really explored

>>84369431
You mean the White Bear one? That one's close, only in that case the victim was an actually bad person. Either way it was a bit too silly to have the same impact.

He's in the process of making vidyakino.
He's the Grant Morrison of video games, only he just started with the supermetatextual philosophical works. Death Stranding looks like it'll be his Flex Mentallo or his Multiversity.

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>>84365267

SotC was KINO

>>84368491
MGS2 did what Spec Ops: The Line attempted to do better and 10 years earlier

on a technical level his games are superior/more complicated than most movies. as far as plot goes he should just have someone else write it, like del toro or one of his other buddies

>>84370271
MGS2 was about the information age and fighting for the higher ups pulling the strings, their only thematic overlap was the whole "you don't know what you're fighting for" angle which was cryptic in MGS2 rather than confrontational, the whole "stop playing" stuff was meant to freak you out, it didn't really mean much storywise

>>84370271
I kinda liked that Spec Ops didn't have long dumb stories about a guy and his family issues with his step mom/sister and boring gf arguments.

Kojima is awful at writing romantic relationships

>>84370522
This, MGS2's thematic depth was buried in utter nonsense and a confusing mess of ideas

>>84365267
Mother 3

>>84370663
This.

>Shadow of the colossus.

/Thread

>>84364832
He's a hack

>>84366116
>inb4 this is what dead stranding is

>>84365267
Ori