Why hasn't RLM's subscriber base increased in so long?

I prefer that way
I miss 50k subs dunkey

>>84305599
How many subscribers do you have, OP?

>>84305721
bout tree fiddy

It is weird that they couldn't parlay the Plinkett prequel reviews into a healthy YouTube channel.

IIRC didn't they only host their videos on their own site for the first few years? By the time they realized people only watch shit on YouTube I guess no one cared anymore.

>>84305599
They're not mentally ill enough
If you want the big subscribers you need to be mentally ill like Spoony

>>84305806
I'd say that liking The Force Awakens is pretty much equivalent to having an extra chromosome.

>>84305599
>Is it because they are dead end losers with a small sycophantic fanbase?
Oh god, the salt.
Looks like someone is envy of these guys who make their substantial living talking about movies, don't have a boss and are successful youtubers.

You may now start posting all the dissing nonsense copypasta about them but it won't change a thing.

You can also make an assumption that I in fact one of them. Whatever floats your boat.

>>84305776
i think that was a bad decision on their part. used to drive me crazy going to those other fucking sites. Maybe they monetized better

>>84305846
>salt.
No one says this here.

>>84305846

It's more pathetic if you aren't one of them

>>84305776
500k subs is great dude
Most of the biggest cartoon related channels don't have 300k

>>84305879
What exactly is pathetic? Seeing things as they are and not hating on the guys?
Lmao. What a sad loser you are.

>>84305979
damn...

>>84307163

>>84305721
Why do people think this is a valid counter point?

>>84305599
Because their videos are long and tend to deal with obscure VHS tapes.

Most people who browse youtube are kids with low attention spans who get terrified whenever a video longer than 10 minutes is uploaded

>>84307852
they are stupid people

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>>84307903
This.

RLM has a high barrier to entry because of the subject matter and length of the videos. Wonder why their capeshit has higher views? Because normies understand it, while obscure vhs tapes aren't...

>>84309032
>RLM has a high barrier to entry
No?
Mike liked The Force Awakens. His brain is barely functioning.

>>84305599
>Is it because they are dead end losers with a small sycophantic fanbase?
Half-correct. Their monetization model works for them and there's no reason to try anything new besides snarkily making fun of other critics.

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>mfw keep thinking about Jay's tight boipucci

They got patreon so they don't give a fuck about pandering to new audiences.

>NOOOOOOOOO not muh precious Transformers REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>84305599
It's amazing how a company founded upon harassing and insulting other videos was caught DELETING NEGATIVE COMMENTS on their own!

How is that not hypocrisy at its highest?

>>84309411
>tfw you realise all the love for Bayformers on /tv/ right now is completely unironic because the majority of posters were children when the first 3 came out.

>>84305599
It's slowy but steady growing

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/redlettermedia

they started out on blip and with their patreon and stuff sale they don't give a fuck if they get 100k or a million views

>>84309961
black dick

>>84309156
The longer a video is, the less likely a normal person is going to watch is given shorter alternatives.

I.e most people will watch the IGN Review of Fallout 4 as opposed the the 3 hour review that picks it apart

>>84305979
SALTY XD

jesus christ you don't belong here. 2016 really did permanently destroy this site

>>84309235
>tight

I want to point something out: Chris Stuckmann, a former fan of theirs who they mocked, currently has twice as many subscribers and gets twice as many views as they do while being just one guy who makes videos much more often, and he was able to accomplish this despite being a much younger channel.

>>84310793
>RLM thinks they are superior to the more popular channels
>the PT is superior to the OT

poetry

>>84310831
>>84310793
seriously though, why are RLM so elitist?

>>84310630
this that shit is as open as rich's mouth in a buffett

>>84310913
well I meant from taking mike's cock both literally and figuratively every day for years

Because their content is garbage.

Best of the Worst: they give you the cliffnotes movies of some bad movies you'll never want to see. This is the best stuff they do.

Plinkett videos: Only videos of theirs that people like so of course they all but abandoned that shit, but honestly, it's for the best considering the no quality of the newer ones.

Half in the Bag: shitty non-reviews where they ramble on about a recent movie to cash in on people searching whatever new movie is out on Youtube, where they often flat out get basic shit wrong.

re:View: Like Half in the Bag but older movies (often related to a recent release to again cash in).

Any of their joke videos: they take a weak joke and stretch it out as thin as they can.

Video game shit: These are just about their worst videos.

The guys made a couple good videos like five years ago plus and they've been on cruise control ever since. The real question is: why do they still have subs? Answer: because fanboys are dumb.

>>84310910
Because Mike thinks that film school taught him more than it did.

>>84310966
>film """""""""school"""""""""

Because space cop was the worst thing ever

>>84310987
Mike makes over $200,000.00 a year making low effort YouTube films. I'd say his small tuition at film school paid off.

>>84310962
Their Star Trek and Star Wars reviews are really bad though.

Small example- he acts like Picard being bald in his academy days in Nemesis shows contempt for the audience, but Wrath of Kahn does the exact same type of thing when they have Checkov freak out over the SS Botany Bay like you're supposed to forget that he wasn't in Season 1.

>>84310910
It's an ego-saving mechanism. Their stuff isn't popular because it's just not very good, so their built-in excuse is "heh let the drooling masses enjoy those 'popular' videos, we'll continue making the 'unappreciated good' videos for true intellectuals like ourselves *tips fedora*."

Because he bashed R1 for having ties, xwings and ATATs while he didn't do the same with TFA even though TFA was set 30 years after ROTJ and R1 a week before ANH

>>84311036
this
Absolutely no defense for this.

>>84311014
They're entertaining, and they do raise a lot of good points, but yes, they get a lot of things just flat out wrong and there's a lot of total bullshit (like the "describe the character" bit which totally wasn't scripted and rehearsed).

>>84305599
RLM is /tv/ incarnate, accept it or fuck off

>>84305806
Or Chris Stuckmann level autist

>>84311069
>and they do raise a lot of good points
eh
I went through a Plinkett phase, but I watched them again one time and just realized it was mostly Mike being an ideologue and not really an objective analysis.

>>84305838
I stop watching them right there

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>>84305599
Maybe one day /tv/ will be mature enough to accept that Jack is the only cool guy over at RLM. He has a nice family, is nice himself, and isn't an elitist prick

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>>84305599
>prequel fanbois still this bootyblasted

the most important question is
why didn't shitcase cinema lift off?
it's a funny chanel

>>84310966
mike is on record saying that film school was mostly a waste of time.

>>84311219
What opinions does Mike have that you disagree with?

>Rogue One faggots still this blown the fuck out

>>84311176
Absolutely.

>>84311199
This is correct also Wizard is the worst FACT.

>>84311199
It took a while for me, but I've finally come to the same conclusion. Jack really is the best member of RedLetterMedia. Truly, he is the best of the worst.

>>84311275
TFA was shit and so is star trek in general. the first of the new star treks was also shit. marvel is entirely shit except for the first iron man. wonder woman was also shit (i didn't see it).

>>84311199
He and Jay are top tier, then Mike, then Rich who is an asshole who doesn't have the ability to admit he's wrong yet acts like knowitall even though he doesn't know dick about pretty much anything, and Wizard is just fucking awful in every goddamn way.

>>84311275
Not him but I thought ST 2009 was pretty shit and he loved it for some reason. I'm not a Trekkie. Well, generally I think Mike likes some blockbusters a bit too much. He really likes a well-made, safe movie with good arc. That's okay, but I don't always agree.

Also he said Escape from NY was kind of boring which is fucking dumb.

Prequels still mostly suck though.

Jay is best RLM.

I thought you all unsubscribed already when they liked TFA and you couldn't stop crying about it?

was that just a bluff, but now that they made a coulple pisstake videos about transformers, that's a step too far, you're really going to stop watching this time?

These latest two videos are fucking incredible.
>What are you talking about? They used you to get a free check. They wanted some money and their "fans" would applaud that they got tricked and make excuses for them. "I'm a lazy fuck and I'm gonna get us some ad revenue by tricking our fans. They are so retarded they would think it was EPIC". The worst part about this video is the comment section, filled with idiots like you who think it's some kind of epic troll when it's Mike using you retards for a little bit of extra cash after he spent all the Marvel pay-offs.
I am convinced the point of these are to have angry youtube commenters describe Michael Bay and Transformers for them so they don't have to.

>>84311384
>Escape from NY was kind of boring which is fucking dumb.
no it really is
an action movie has to have an iconic villain

>>84311036
You misunderstand. He did not bash it for having that. He bashed it for ONLY having that

>>84311199
He's a textbook, almost ridiculously stereotypical hipster who takes the contrarian position in order to appear different from the rest. Just look at the dinosaur BotW episode, Rich calls him out on it (jokingly, but its still true).

>>84311416
Duke of NY was okay. Anyway, Escape is more atmospheric/dystopian than pure action.

>>84305599
Did the Transformers videos really make you this assblasted?

>>84311398
we are unsubscribed but you guy always post on here the same day you release a new one so we always know

>>84309437
Proof?

>>84311418
But that's wrong on so many levels, we had lots of things that TFA didn't have

>We had a space battle with capital ships
>A great land battle
>A planet full of people that makes the galaxy feel big and alive unlike
>A gray character
>A non mary sue protagonist
>Villains that don't make you laugh
>A better OST
>More original designed ships


>>84311444
tell me just one quote of him

>>84311536
>A non mary sue protagonist
What?
>Villains that don't make you laugh
I dunno, Vader's puns were funny as a shit, best part of the movie.
>tell me just one quote of him
Honestly I only watched the movie once and I don't remember. I just remember that he was okay as a centerpiece of that angry mob and that the President shot him. Honestly most stuff I remember is visual because, well, it's a movie focusing on atmosphere building. Dirty streets, landing sequence, Snake just sitting there in the store trying to make sense of things.

>>84311384
Look at it from a different perspective: they tried to make action summer blockbusters with The Next Generation. It didn't work. It didn't work because The Next Generation was never really action-packed, so the movies never really fit the tone of that series. Plus, the actors were old by that point. It's just silly seeing Picard swing around on a rope and get into fist fights. What you wound up with was a bunch of movies that didn't please anyone. Star Trek fans didn't like them because they were "too dumb blockbuster," and general audiences didn't like them because they were "too Star Trekkie."

With Star Trek 2009, they made a competent action summer blockbuster that was able to please general audiences (plus some Star Trek fans). At least someone liked it, which is more than you can say for the TNG movies (except maybe Nemesis).

>>84310793
you're forgetting the nearly 19k per month they got from patreon, i'm sure they're doing fine financially

>>84311607
The thing is, I just didn't like it as an action blockbuster. Kirk was an annoying brat, Spock was annoying brat too for some reason, the plot hinges on a bunch of coincidences, villain travels back in time to avenge the destruction of his planet instead of preventing it, the action is too flashy and I lost the sense of thrill and danger because of it...

I liked the last one well enough, 2009 just didn't work for me. Hell, I liked Kirk in the last one!

>>84305599
They only appeal to other "cynical burnouts" like themselves

>>84311219


When future generations sift through the smoldering rubble of postmodern America, they would do well to locate a hard drive with RedLetterMedia content on it. They could study Mike and Jay and, with that thin slice of information, fully understand what it is that killed western civilization.
Those two are bitter, cynical nihilists. They have devoted their lives, the prime years of productivity, to pithily lampooning cultural ephemera and implying "we could do better than these idiot filmmakers, but we're too cool to actually try."
They are every strain of societal AIDS melded together into a super AIDS of cultural death...
Well into middle age, they're still obsessively analyzing adventure stories for children. They're childless, unmarried, stubbornly avoiding an actual profession, opting instead to beg for Patreon donations. They are subsisting on the patronage of even more embittered, more lonely, more cynical losers who need virtual friends to swim in their vast Petri dish of misery with them.
Look in their fucking eyes, man. It's a joyless, pointless existence they're living.
They are so afraid of sincerity or honest artistic effort that they'll leave behind hours of footage of them chuckling about Tommy Wiseau. They are artistic cowards and abject failures in every respect.
Each time you catch a glimpse of them, you're reminded that we peaked as a civilization a long time ago. We're done creating. We're done feeling real emotions. All we can do now is analyze, criticize, and ironically pick through the dessicated corpse of our once great nation.

Oh, a new half in the bag episode
*removes noose from neck*

Half in the baaaaaag! Get out of my car and into my dreams!!! Oh my gaaaawd! What's wrong with your faaaace?I Hack frauds IT BROKE NEW GROWND!!! Is this replacing Susan?! Email me if you want a pizza-roll! AAAAAIIIIIIDDDSSS! IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO MAKE! Well me personally, I really liked this movie it was so dense every frame had so much going on, it's like poetry, it rhymes, it's gonna be great... What is it with Ricks? That's right Jay! FUCK MOVIES! Fuck you it's january! Fuck you it's year! Fuck you it's FOREVER!!! I FUCKING LOVE STAR WARS! Speaking of reference, have you seen movie?! part time Thaaat's right Mike! AT-ST's AT-ST's I'm gonna cum! ENDLESS TRASH! Paul Blart Mall Plart part 2, he's a funnier character than we've ever had before, if we can get him working... THESE MEN ARE PAWNS I have put a price of twenty-thousand dirham on their heads! Next they will be hailed as the true messenger of GOD! Ahhhhhh They were just a couple of song writers who came to Ishtar to break into show business. Easy boy, easy, boy, easy boy, easy boy! What the hell's the matter with him? Is he blind?!? Well yeah he is, bu-but he's in perfect condition. So how did they end up on everybody's hit list? Your life is in danger. Behave normally, we have guns pointed at your backs. No, don't put your hands up you idiot. Oh little Darlin'. My little Darlin'.Oh where, a-are you? Do it. Ayyiyiyiyiyiyiyi schmechahii buttahotsfayaaah! I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere I feel like RLM needs a new fanbase, I got fahckin' Jokes-Redundancy-Stress-Disorder ovah here! I guess I have to... FUCK THE PAIN AWAY! Mmmmmm... I like to fuck my cat... What were these guys smoking? CIGARETTES? And I thought it was a really odd note to just end the movie on 10 minutes of news photage of 9/11. You might not have noticed it, but your brain did... You read this comment. What are next? And Kevin Bacon

>>84311219
It's simple.

Mike Stoklasa has become the very thing he once ridiculed. Look at the Avatar review for instance; he spends 90 minutes going on about Cameron's blatant pandering to the lowest common denominator, marveling (no pun intended) at Cameron's proficiency for manipulating the audience to make them feel how he wants them to feel, how he wants them to think.

Fast forward a couple of years later. Jurassic World is released -- its heavily established to be a soft reboot operating on the hype of faux-nostalgia and Pratt's recent Guardians of the Galaxy success.

Mike loves it. Hits all the right buttons. Really gets his inner manchild going. He basically reveres the film to Jay Bauman's utter disgust.

This is the first sign of Stoklasa's downfall, his immediate descent into the anti-thesis of Mr. Plinkett. He's become lazy, brainwashed, unwittingly indoctrinated into the modern Hollywood machine sculpted by the likes of Disney executives.

It's October 2015. Disney gets in touch with Red Letter Media. They offer him a deal he simply can't refuse; he's instructed to praise Disney's numbered Star Wars episodes while taking critical albeit nonsensical liberties with the standalone films, all the while consistently spewing a casual commitment to every Marvel film that is released. Mike and his goons are heavily compensated for this, successfully turning the likes of the internet's pseuds into DDs (Disney Dudes).

The real enemy isn't Collider, or Loot Crate boxes.

It's Mike Stoklasa.

>>84307852
What kind of counter points do you have?

There's a lot of exicitement, there's a lot of buzz and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me because I have no interest in intentionally shitty movies. The best bad movies are the ones where the people making it didn't realize they were making a bad movie.

- Jay Bauman, director / star of Space Cop

Why wasn't space cop funny?

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>>84305599
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL

MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

>>84312014
Because the relationship between the main duo was all wrong in a key aspect; they were both "fish out of water" characters. Mike should have played a normal cop while Rich is the wacky one, and there relationship works with Rich saying dumb and wacky things and Mike reacts like a normal person would. Instead Mike plays wacky cop from the past, so there is no straight man for the audience to relate to and the whole film feels like a chore to watch because its a farse, like an intro to Half in the Bag. Even in a dumb comedy, the film needs to be grounded in some kind of reality, even in the form of a straight man character for the comedic duo to work. Otherwise it falls flat, like Space Cop did.

>>84312088
Channel Awesome invited RLM to work with them back in the day and RLM refused.

>>84311536
You know what it didn't have? Good characters or an engaging story

>>84312236
this

>>84307852
People are cretins - welcome to 4chan

>>84312227
source: your ass.

rlm shat on nostalgia critic but that's it

>>84312236
it didn't had an engaging history cause you already knew how it ended

>>84312227
>Channel Awesome
I don't know what that is but I hate it already

>>84309437
Are you the same faggot that keeps saying this in their comment section to try and get people to believe it?

>>84312447
>a story can't be engaging if you know the ending
Retard

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>>84312412
Confirmed btw

>>84309437
It's amazing anyone cares about these guys

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>>84305599

Because only 2 members out of a cast of 5 regulars are funny or interesting

>>84312545
whats the video?

>>84305599
Because they don't pander to their audience like every other youtube faggot. Considering how they don't give a fuck, it's actually pretty impressive they have as many subs as they do.

Also, they have a much higher subs-to-view count than just about about any other youtube channel I can think of.

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>>84310630
>implying

>>84305776
Their channel continues to gain hundreds of subs every day, their viewer retention is high, they often get more views per video than they have subs, and their Patreon continues to grow every month. They are literally the definition of a healthy youtube channel, and they've done it all without coddling their pathetic fanbase.

>>84312545
if you would watch the video you would know they don't mention rlm at all

like I said, you have no proof.

>>84312545
But this screenshot doesn't prove anything you're trying to say.

They never again reached the level of the bashing of star wars prequels. That was really good analysis of why they sucked. Plus his review of TFA was obviously bought. That movie was shit and not in the way the prequels was interestingly shitty. Sure TFA was far better, but still one of the worst movies ever.

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>>84305599
RLM is in a interesting spot

objectively compared to other youtube stars they aren't that big

they have high viewer retention

almost all the subs watch all their shit

sources : jay's troll joke videos of like 20 mins of blackness get an insane amount of views for what it is

>>84313439
To be fair it's pretty hard to top the Plinkett reviews. I wish they would do more of the re:view series where they actually like movies. Or show so more good lesser known movies. There's a ton even in the 90s.

>TFA
?

>>84305599
RedditLetterMedia is a FriendSim for perpetually friendless redditors. Look at the fervor with which they shill for these mordibly obese 50yo nobody losers that they've never met and never will. Even if they did RLM would hate them as much as they hate themselves.

>>84311254

Mike should have just gone to films instead.

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Jesus Christ, the amount of delusion in this thread.

>>84314893

Welcome to 4chan.

>>84305599
Probably because they keep making shitty videos as of late

>>84305599
They need to go full liberal to get over 1m

>>84305599

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/redlettermedia

Their subscriber base is rising in a steady pace. It's actually much better than what I would've expected for a channel that puts out videos so infrequently.

>>84305721
How much money did Space Cop make? RLM are officially not allowed to criticise any movie which made more money than Space Cop.

>>84311199
>He has a nice family, is nice himself, and isn't an elitist prick

And this after he settled down. Before that, the guy did pretty much every drug available, played in many bands, has travelled the world filming stuff for various companies, has filmed comedy bits with celebrities, has talked his way into exclusive events, plus was an actual clown. Then he went home and became a family man.

>>84305858
it was only recently that youtube allowed hour plus long videos, and that's only on a clean channel with no copyright or community strikes. Also only large channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers are able to skirt around the use of copyrighted content where smaller channels would get deleted.

>>84312412
There's no proof, just three years plus old rumors based on the Nostalgia Critic prequel defense video (despite having said, in the past, that he'd never do a video on the prequels as NC since RLM had pretty much nailed them).

>>84316309
>Their subscriber base is rising in a steady pace.
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/chrisstuckmann