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Anime cant be kin- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5 PzsN1Q7g

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Anime cant be kin-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5PzsN1Q7g
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season 2 was so fucking slow paced and boring

literally nothing fucking happened over 12 episodes and now we gotta wait a year or 2 to see if something actually happens
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>>84238531
>english
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Won't be long until a butthurt mod deletes this.
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You don't even understand true kinoplexity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E16eca7Yf3M
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>>84238571

>literally nothing happens over 12 episodes

Did you actually watch this season?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCUMoVH_Y4Q
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>>84238571
>literally nothing happened
Every time someone says literally nothing happened, something did happen.
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>english dub
>titan literally goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at a high pitch
https://youtu.be/rx5PzsN1Q7g?t=266

>japanese dub
>titan does a powerful low pitched roar
https://youtu.be/8aAZB-DOKio?t=265

no wonder people hate english dubs, that was fucking awful
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>AoT has no loli fap bait
>/a/ calls it over rated trash

really makes you think
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>>84238772
I'm reading the manga, and the anime is so much better than it.
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>>84238772
>if a female character is prepubescent, she must have been deviously engineered to "bait" people into masturbating to her
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someone give me a quick rundown on this show
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>>84238825
big naked people kill humans

humans build wall

special big naked people break down wall and kill everything

humans fight back

some humans turn into big giant naked people and then everything just becomes flesh mecha fighting
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>>84238825
the last of humanity is protected by giant walls against hungry giants (titans) who only eat humans and nothing else. this simple description will not do the show justice.

the characters are all trying to figure out the origins of these giants.
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>>84238531
Anime belongs on /t-
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>>84238531
wow could they not get someone with a deep aryan voice for reiner?
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>>84238825

Naruto meets Game of Thrones
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>reiner literally picks up a titan in his human form and throws it out a window

i don't get it
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>>84238942
>reiner gets bitten but doesn't change
was this addressed or did I remember things incorrectly?
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>>84238825
its shit
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>>84238861
but that's not true, humanity is alive and well across the world
the land within the walls are a prison
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>Guy who can't be beat.
>Guy who can't be beat 2: electric boogaloo.
>Guy who cant be beat 3: Seriously, we mean it.
>Guy who can't be beat 4: Walk the dinosaur.
>Guy who can't be beat 5: This time it's for real.
>Guy who can't be beat 6: Worse than all the other guys combined.
>Guy who can't be beat 7: The final battle.
>Guy who can't be beat 8: The Revenge
>Guy who can't be beat 9: Friend of the Guy who couldn't be beaten.
>Guy who can't be beat 10: Son of the Guy who couldn't be beaten.
>Guy who can't be beat 11: The Prerquel
>Guy who can't be beat 12: The Reboot.

Anime...
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>>84238988
don't spoil it for me, I'm leaving this thread now :(
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>>84238677
The moment he shouted Advence as his arm was taken off SnK became kino. I don't care what moeshits think about it, it's good.
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>>84238571
>have to wait god knows how fucking long to get to the kenny and military police special forces fight
this season was alright, but waiting this fucking long just to get to a couple cool fights with a cgi colossal titan was disappointing.
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It's not "kino" because it's not a film
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I don't like anime but attack on titan makes all the kiddies from /a/ triggered so I have no problem with this thread
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>english dub
kys
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hello paging anime experts

can the armored titan be killed
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4 years we waited and all we got was a slow paced 12 episode season of almost nothing. I've read the manga and I can't believe they only got to the fight in the field.
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>>84239112
beast titan fucking destroys his ass later and doesn't get a scratch on him
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>>84239112
yes
Madara Uchiha with his ETERNAL MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN and PERFECT SUSANOO can slice him up easily
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>>84239112
Probably didn't you see how mobility was it's weakness? Clearly they can lock him down and if he chooses to shed armor they can exploit that.
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>>84239095
>i don't like anime but i go on /a/ enough to know how they react to specific shows
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>>84238959
Titan shifting needs you to take damage, usually bleeding, to trigger the transformation. But you need to be willing to change. Just like how they can delay they're own healing.
And about Eren's transformation was just instinct though
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>>84238531
>that dubbing
holy shit, my sides

>>84238571
manga's pacing is trash so it's natural that the series suffers from it too
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>>84238860
>everything just becomes flesh mecha fighting
that's what I feared. should have just been survival horror with people trying their best to beat those giant cannibals. but nooooooooooooo... muh meat mecha
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>>84239163
lol no I don't. we have anime threads here all the time. It's hilarious watching idiots getting mad when someone mentions this specific show
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>>84239205
Any anime except maybe Dragonball gets idiots mad here.
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>>84238531
that was the best part of season 2, then it went downhill from there

even when I knew it was gonna happen, the ost made it even better.
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>anime
>protagonist is beta-self insert nu-male with superpowers
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Showing grappling and wresting moves in a fight was pretty cool animated. This show might have subpar writing but it's more entertaining than the generic shit /a/ lives on. Writing is for books anyway, animation should do really cool shit like what this show is about.
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>>84239200
Speak for yourself, I watch this for the mystery and horror aspect, which is all over. AT+CT+BT vs SL is kino
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this shit has the dumbest story ever, it started out interesting and something that may have genuine mystery, and then it devolves into straight anime trash LOL YOU WERE THE TITANS xD
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>>84238860
>>84239200
I don't know what your problem is, the fights are IMO the only interesting part. I'm following the manga and in between fights there are endless chapters of them talking.
>urh dur ADHD
if they had some actually interesting conversations I could live with that
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>>84239246
Any character who isn't a parody of an 80s action star gets called a "beta" nowadays, and almost any character is supposedly for "self-inserting" even though that makes no sense and self-insertion is an American rather than a Japanese thing.

>>84239274
That characters are able to titanshift does not somehow mean that the story no longer has any mystery to it.
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>>84238677
This animation is fucking awful
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so are armored/ colossal not aligned with beastman?

if no, do they have their own motives?
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>>84239322
How so?
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why does /tv/ seem to love entry level anime so much
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>>84239341
yes, they work together. down the line the series pulls a claymore off and it's revealed that titans are actually bioweapons used in a war between two counties, some ethnic war shit. the beast titan is eren's half brother, and the titan who ate eren's mother was actually the beast one's mother
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhLc27BXm9k
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>>84239375
do they just happen to be in the middle of it and are inconsequential?
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>>84239268
Its like watching new transformers for mystery and horror aspects.
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>>84239356
Overuse of speed lines and stills, with character movement looking extremely cheap.
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>>84239391
I'll be honest, the further it goes the more the plot becomes a clusterfuck, so I don't really remember the details. To add insult to injury the last two chapters have been a 4 (?) years timeskip, no idea if now this is the official timeline or we'll get back to the point.
I honestly don't really recommend to keep following AoT. Some moments are REALLY hype, but in between there so much boring shit it's almost not worth it.
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>>84238531
>dub
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>>84239268
>I watch it for the mystery
They're bioweapons. Yawn.
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>>84239416
The animation is inconsistent but that's typical for japanese animation. It's not like attack on titan is worse than everything else. It has better animation than most things airing last season.
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>>84238531
>dude everyone is a titan now: the season
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Are they planning to use the US TV format for the show releasing 12 episodes every year? They'll have about 5 years before they catch up to the story and they can make up the ending. It could work
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>>84238531
Is that sword clipping through Reiner's hand? What the
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>>84239366
there he is
pro-tip: all anime is entry level pleb shit.
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>>84239455
It was pretty obvious from the start of the first show that titans are transformed humans and those 2 titans were introduced in the very first episode of the first season. It's not really something to be upset about that their identities were revealed
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>>84239466
>implying season 3 won't be the last season
The politics arc is boring as fuck
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>>84239416
The use of stills doesn't mean the animated parts are bad, and stills are there by necessity. The animation's quality level is so high that there's no way to keep it up all the time.

>>84239466
They aren't using any US format.

>>84239484
Entry level means something popular and accessible for newcomers. It's not possible for all anime to be entry level.
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>>84239449
I don't watch it, maybe you're right about the rest of the show. But that scene was garbage.
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>>84239519
>Entry level means something popular
And popular in the case of anime means good. Name ONE just ONE anime that isn't at least a cult hit that's not total weaboo trash.
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I will be real here: while reading and following threads i got bought into the idea that aot is actually shit, after all something so popular can't be good, right?

Turns out it can. It may as well be the best story in existence. It's a little bit off which keeps it fresh, it's so close to diving into complete shit that it's a fucking miracle how good it is.

I love lost but aot is basically good lost. Fuck everyone who thinks that it's shit because it doesn't follow one of their head cannons.

Just embrace it. Even if it's for plebs, even if armin a shit and micasa sucasa, it's okay, let it go and live through it.
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>>84239540
>he thinks this webm is well animated
Why are weeboo threads always full of plebs
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>>84239544
It's not possible for anime to be weeaboo.
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>>84239544
Sword Art Online
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>>84238531
How can u watch this and not cringe? I'm ashamed as I'm watching this clip.

God anime is so fucking embarassing. The stock anime music only added another layer of cringe.

So i assume kids just grow into evil giants, and everyone out there patroling is kids/young adults. Ofc they have little tooth pick swords in case a giant comes along.

Fucking hate anime.
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>>84239547
Dude, you're a reddit spacer, no one cares what you think. And only plebs care about avoiding things that are for plebs as declared by the retards on 4chan. Everyone should decide for themselves what they want to watch.
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>>84239567
The term weaboo trash was used to describe trash that weaboos like to consume, mr. autist.
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>>84239504
>heh.. it was obvious m'gentleman
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>>84239566
I'm sorry I offended you for saying that the poorly animated scene in Attack on Titan had bad animation, anon.
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>>84239375
Had a feeling it was something like this. In season two they showed ymir getting kicked off a wall and turning into a titan which is pretty obvious that there's another human civilization somewhere.

Meanwhile Erens dad disappears beyond the walls which means obviously he's not gonna just fucking die. He went somewhere.
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>>84239587
Well it is obvious. You have a character who transforms in a Titan, why wouldn't you assume that all Titans were transformed that way?
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>>84239544
>Name ONE just ONE anime that isn't at least a cult hit that's not total weaboo trash.
I'm not sure if you're asking for a popular one or for an obscure one, but for the latter Shigurui is pretty dope, too bad the series is incomplete. I should look for the manga.
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>>84239566
It is well animated.

>>84239573
>So i assume kids just grow into evil giants, and everyone out there patroling is kids/young adults. Ofc they have little tooth pick swords in case a giant comes along.
No.

>Fucking hate anime.
Based on what? You clearly don't know anything about it.

>>84239580
Weeaboos don't exist anymore, and even if they did it is not a valid argument to say that something must be weeaboo trash because somewhere a weeaboo is watching it.
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>>84239608
Do you even know what animation is? There's barely any animation in this scene you posted. The picture just vibrates a bit.
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>>84239631
Here's your (You)
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>>84239621
>Weeaboos don't exist anymore
Yes the do. Weeaboos are people who are new to anime and they still don't understand that all anime is cliched shit, so that praise that shit as if it's golden. The weeaboo is always confused when everyone ignores his favorite cliched romcom and prefers to watch a show like aot that doesn't have as many anime cliches.
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>>84239631
>The picture just vibrates a bit.
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>comparing a high budget movie to a television series to some meme thing a person did for the internet
you're both niggers.
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>>84239612
>Meanwhile Erens dad disappears beyond the walls which means obviously he's not gonna just fucking die. He went somewhere.
he dead, man, eren eat it. that's how they pass the weird powers. basically to become a titan you get an injection, and when you turn into one, if you eat another titan user you absorb its powers. titan users usually sacrifice themselves like these to pass on the powers on a person of their choosing,
tl;dr: eren's dad tuned him into a titan and let himself get eaten to pass the power to controll retard titans to his son


>>84239608
Ghost is GOAT, but it's a movie, I think it's an unfair comparison.
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>>84239666
The "weeaboos" that people talk about nowadays are just anyone who likes anything Japanese, which isn't what weeaboo means.
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>>84239697
Also, if all anime is cliched shit then it means everything is cliched shit. You can't have it both ways. Cliche also doesn't mean bad.
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>>84239615
>why wouldn't you assume that all Titans were transformed that way?

that's not the problem. The problem is that it feels retconned to have so many titan infiltrators, and disminishes the impact of the first seasons twist.
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>>84239059
FINDS
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>>84239059

Already a thing.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keit-ai-finds-a-way/
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/KeitAi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825
https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/Keit-AI-Tomoyuki-x-Seiko-Keit%E6%84%9B-%E5%A5%89%E6%96%87-x-%E8%81%96%E5%AD%90
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>>84239765
I've seen a lot of forced memes and I think this one is the worst.
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>>84239059
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>>84239059
>>84239059
Threadly reminder that Keit-ai is now the highest grossing anime film of all time.

>$353.3 million

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Kimi-no-na-wa-(Japan)#tab=summary
http://supremecarlos.net/post/155932824647/your-name-kimi-no-na-wa-just-became-the
http://aramajapan.com/news/tvmovie/your-name-kimi-no-na-wa-surpasses-spirted-away-as-highest-grossing-film-in-japan/69666/
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-17/shinkai-your-name-tops-spirited-away-as-highest-grossing-anime-film-worldwide/.111141
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/169311-Your-Name-Beats-Spirited-Away-in-Gross
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/your-name-spirited-away-highest-grossing-anime-of-all-time-a7530876.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_anime_films
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Re:Creators is the superior pleb filter.
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What's with these f/a/ggots invading our sacred board?
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>>84239982
If you are so allergic to anime then maybe coming to an anime site was the wrong move to make.
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>>84238531
Can't believe people like this crap
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>>84238531
Watching it now. I'm on season 2 episode 9. It's bretty good.
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>>84239996
>he still thinks that 4chan is an anime website

Maybe try stop living in 2006?
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>>84240056
There's an extremely disproportionate number of boards dedicated to Japanese/otaku topics. Nearly every banner is related to them. The site mascot is from a manga. People post anime images to a degree that would never happen on a non-anime site.

You can't come here and expect this to be some safe space where you won't have to see any anime.
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>>84238531

Episode 11 was one of the best 20 minutes of television I have watched this year.
I don't care what you autists think it was legitimately great
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>>84240104
Non-anime boards have more posts than anime boards.
Face it, you're the shitty boards no one cares about anymore.
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>>84239059
>>84239765
>this is /a/'s idea of a meme.
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>>84240147
Get these hotheads out of here!
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>>84239982
>What's with these f/a/ggots invading our sacred board?
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>>84240140
The more generic the topic, the more people there are talking about it. That's why general discussion subforums on forums are usually the most active or among the most active, regardless of what the forum is dedicated to.

If anime triggers you so badly then just don't come here. Problem solved.
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other than the spoonfeeding(although people were somehow confused when historia said she didn't know ymir was a shifter, when it was obvious that she was Iying), SnK>>>GoT as it has its own concepts and designs. Whereas GoT is a genre show and not very interesting outside of the edginess(much like Rezer0).

>>84238772
You have entry level taste, have you even seen azumanga?
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>>84240104
So? /pol/ is the biggest board these days and it has nothing to do with your shitty Japanese cartoon.
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>>84238571
season 2 was the ultimate pleb filter
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>>84240219
Whatever. If anime triggers you so badly then just don't come here.
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>>84240147
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>>84239322
>muh animation
t. WoW pleb
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>>84238571
Only thing I didn't like was that Levi was out of commission for the duration of it.

He's so absurdly OP against Titans that even the series has to limit him.

Also why didn't the guy ever change into the Colossal Titan again? Does he need a much longer break between transformations?
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>>84239059
Purest kino. A meme turned real.
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>>84239779
>forced meme
>it has a know your meme entry and a tv tropes entry among many other iterations

It's not that forced if it's getting memetic traction.
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>>84240277
>why didn't the guy ever change into the Colossal Titan again?
I think because it moves too slow and they were in a hurry
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>>84240310
It was and is completely forced.
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>>84238653
Is season two better? First season was all over the place and boring.
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>>84238531
Oh god, those facial expression and over dramatization... how can anyone take this crap seriously?
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>>84238571
Season one had more episodes and more filler. This was more condensed into less episodes. It still was boring and felt like filler. The manga and series seem to be dog shit. Who even cares about the characters? Eren is some whiny bitch that gets beat up all the time and never grows. Only interesting characters are side characters with little airtime or a couple side stories for filler.
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>>84240357
Keit-Ai has been made into:

>a wiki
>a fanfic
>a fictionpress story
>a manga
>a meme
>a series recognized by TV Tropes
>an anime preview
>an anime episode
>an anime series
>an honest-to-goodness anime movie
>Oscar considered
>a critically acclaimed box office success in Japan
>a worldwide hit
>the no. 1 highest grossing anime film of all time
>a certified fresh movie on Rotten Tomatoes

Keep crying bitch nigga.
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>>84239573
Its laughable how off the mark you are
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>>84240056
Sorry but if ur on 4chan ur basically a secondhand anime watcher. Ur a filthy weeb fuck, deal with it.
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>>84240357
t. mod
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>>84238571
At least it wasn't as bad as the first season, right?
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>>84240448
I've heard all this shit before more times than I can count because you people keep desperately forcing this comedy black hole everywhere.

>>84240475
The fact that you people always get so defensive also shows how forced it is.
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>>84239200
Meh, it would still ended up the same even without the meat mecha.
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>Ani-kino thread
>no mention of Ping Pong: The Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VIAU6FqpP0
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>>84240509
>he has heard this shit before
>he still thinks that Keit-ai hasn't and won't find a way
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>>84240539
This will not be funny no matter how many times you force it.
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>>84240509
Get this hothead out of here!
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>>84240550
You are just proving my point.
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>>84240543
It's so unfunny it makes me cringe every time I see it. It's like they're making fun of how generic and predicable the medium that they dedicate so much time to is. Don't worry weebs, you don't need to remind me how shallow and retarded japanese writing is.
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>>84240604
Anime is not generic or predictable or shallow or retarded. That doesn't even make any sense.
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>>84240538
that ost
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>>84240650
oh really? is your name a light hearted romance about high schoolers who use their cell phones to do some mystical shit that in the end helps them learn to become adults
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>>84240713
I haven't seen it yet but based on what I've heard it doesn't match your description. What's your point?
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>>84240746
I predicted it and protip I've seen it and it matches my description. anime = predictable, I am right you are wrong
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>>84240459
>this is what f/a/ggots actually believe
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>>84240771
If you're so militantly opposed to anime then there's no way you would have bothered seeing it, and "phone" doesn't even turn up in Wikipedia's plot summary nor have I heard anyone mention that phones have any importance in the story.

Even if something is predictable, it does not mean anime is predictable. There are predictable stories in every medium and country.
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>>84240812
are you that hunter x hunter freak? I think you have brain problems
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>>84240898
Never even seen it.
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>>84240255
>>84240189
Sounds like you're the one triggered because people don't like your weebtrash.
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>>84238531

I can't believe how bad anime is even from a visual point of view, all the same art style and the animation is so lazy with completely static shots where only the characters mouth moves and then when the characters have to move they just slide around the frame completely static otherwise as if a little kid made it in photoshop
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>>84240996
It is not possible for anime to be weeaboo, and again if you can't stand anime then just don't come here. You will not prevent people making anime threads and posting anime images and about anime no matter how much you complain about it.

>>84241016
There is no singular anime art style, there is nothing lazy about the animation (which is the best in the world), static shots are completely misunderstood and blown out of proportion, and I don't even know what you mean by sliding around.
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>>84241016
there is no single style and trends change every so often
the quality of animation for TV anime is generally pretty average too
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>>84241047
assume he means it's literally slides over a camera perspective which is more fluid. Essentially you get a static perspective and stuff happens with them, there's no panning or depth.
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>>84241092
He was talking about characters moving by sliding around.
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>>84239193
>manga's pacing is trash so it's natural that the series suffers from it too

Its not trash.
The problem is the release schedule.
All big manga suffers from the weekly/biweekly/monthly/ publishing system.
This one comes out once per month, so 7 years in we are barely at 100 chapters.
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Is there anything more pathetic and permavirgin than watching fucking gook cartoons for kids?

When someone tells you they're into anime you just know they are ugly (both on the inside and the outside) with very low social status/skills, often bullied or at least involuntary outsiders.
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>dub
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>>84241225
Anime isn't Korean, it's separate from cartoons, and most of it isn't made for children.

>When someone tells you they're into anime you just know they are ugly (both on the inside and the outside) with very low social status/skills, often bullied or at least involuntary outsiders.
This is projection.
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>>84241016
It's not bad and lazy when you will accept this is just how it is. It takes the point across, services the story and makes emotional impact. It also serves as great contrast for occasional good animation, making it seem great.
>>84241225
>Is there anything more pathetic and permavirgin than watching fucking gook cartoons for kids?

Yeah, sports and soaps.
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>>84241225
>Is there anything more pathetic and permavirgin than watching fucking gook cartoons for kids?
People who watch Kim Kardashian, The View, The Tree of Life and Sports.
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>>84238571
>so fucking slow paced and boring
This is the #1 problem with broadcast animu (and many of its movies). It's still a business and condensing garbage manga (itself already condensed to sell more trade paperbacks; compare Attack on Didan's first few chapters to the rest of the chapters after it became a huge success) so you only cover a certain amount of material per episode makes for a bad experience, and that's not even counting the filler.
The only anime without terrible pacing are those that are original works.
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>>84239112
armored titan is literally the 2nd weakest titan
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>>84241455
Broadcast anime means more than 100+ episode shounen shows, which make up a teeny tiny minority.
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>>84238531
holy fuck this shit is lame
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>>84241532
>Broadcast anime means more than 100+ episode shounen shows
Shonenshit doesn't account for timeslots being sold in cours.
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>>84241917
What does that have to do with anything?
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>tfw /tv/ is basically reddit now
attack on titan is shit
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>>84241988
Why are you evaluating something based on how much reddit likes it?
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>>84241981
You're the one talking about 100+ episode shows.
Cours tie pretty heavily into the business aspect, but maybe that's more a nipponese telebision issue. Still, I feel the production committee model has done more harm to animu in the long run.
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>>84238531

lmao that was fuckin gay

>weebshit
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>>84241988
attack on titan is naruto-tier
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>>84242028
because that's how you tell if it's normie pleb shit

>Rick and Morty
>attack on titan
>Game of thrones
>Star Wars
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>>84242034
>You're the one talking about 100+ episode shows.
That was you, by all reason. Since I have no idea how else you could have come up with this idea.

>>84242062
Being so neurotically concerned about other people's opinions is normie pleb shit.
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Leave animekino to me.
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how can a website that relentlessly uses "edgy" as an insult non-ironically enjoy Attack on Titan, the edgiest, most melodramatic nonsense since Linkin Park made Crawling?
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>>84241988
No, it's good.
>>84242057
No it's not.

There, we had an argument. Isn't it nice having arguments without actually using any arguments.
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>>84242073
I was saying that even conventional non-shonenshit shows, except some original shit that's planned properly during the conception phase, are wracked with pacing issues. Now fuck off.
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>>84242142
How is it edgy though
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I have a feeling nu-a would've hated Berserk because LUL SO EDGY and LUL EVERYONE LIKES IT REDDIT NORMIE PLEB TIER
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>>84239059
This was actually quite a shit. I don´t understand why everyone praises it. Whose fucking idea was it to put the fucking song thrice in the movie ?
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>>84242161
You talked about shows being slow paced and having filler, which points to 100+ episode shounen shows. Now you're talking about vague "pacing issues" which can mean a number of things.
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There's a lot of anime kino, not my fault if you younglings can't look past mainstream shit and current season bullshit from /a/
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>>84242164
Are you kidding?

I just type Attack on Titan into youtube and literally the first thing that pops up is: *teleports behind you* Pssh, nothing personal, kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZs0OIkvreI
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Okay, /a/, name ONE just ONE better show this year. Go on then
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>>84238531
>dubbed

fucking kill yourself, buddy
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>>84242219
So anime should not have any violence or dark tones?
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>>84242219
>I just type Attack on Titan into youtube
So you haven't actually seen it huh. Okay kiddo. It's not any more edgy say Gantz or Berserk or any show where people get killed
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>>84242227
Berserk
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The only viable animu kino. The rest of the garbage here is just waifu bait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8m9HAEE5-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ttau76_Y
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>>84242261
There's no such thing as waifu bait.
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>>84242192
>shows being slow paced and having filler, which points to 100+ episode shounen shows
I, an intellectual who has watched over a hundred and fifty animu shows in the last 15 years, said it was the #1 problem.
(You), a paeon who watches Crunchyroll, thought I was talking about One Piece or something.

The pacing issues that come with indefinitely adapting a long-running manga are a different monster for those involved in fitting a story into 25 or 50 chunks. Timeslots must be booked. Production must be planned meticulously. Narratives cannot just drop off at whatever point in the story a coherent pace would allow for.
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>>84242272
Lol. Don´t force me to open up /a/.
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>>84238531
Holy shit the dubs voices just why. How is Armin going to go trap mode? Also Reiner's VA is awful
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>>84242272
Yes there is. Older weeaboos such as myself know the exact date when anime went to shit: it was April 2 2006 when Haruhi started airing. This was the dawn of moeshit and moeshit still reigns supreme. I pity modern weeaboos who don't know what the world was like before moe.
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>Every body praises Attack on Titian
>It's just another anime where a kid is the "special chosen one."
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>>84242299
I've completed 425 shows not including second seasons etc., and I've never had a Crunchyroll subscription.

>The pacing issues that come with indefinitely adapting a long-running manga are a different monster for those involved in fitting a story into 25 or 50 chunks. Timeslots must be booked. Production must be planned meticulously. Narratives cannot just drop off at whatever point in the story a coherent pace would allow for.
Again:
>You talked about shows being slow paced and having filler, which points to 100+ episode shounen shows. Now you're talking about vague "pacing issues" which can mean a number of things.

>>84242312
Go ahead. It will do absolutely nothing to prove it exists.

>>84242326
There is no such thing, just like there is no such thing as moeshit.
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>>84242326
And then Kon sealed the deal.
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>>84242338
>Every body praises Star War
>It's just another film where a kid is the "special chosen one."
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>>84242338
A story where the main character is in some sense a "chosen one" can be almost anything.
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>>84242344
First 5 threads about "who is the best girl". Why do i even try.
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When are they gonna finish dubbing season 2?
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>>84242344
>no such thing as moeshit
Just like capeshit, moeshit always existed. And just like capeshit it never was a problem until it took over the industry and changed every single genre in it. Moeshit is the cancer and Haruhi was it's first growth. When K-On came out, the cancer became inoperable
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>>84238717
Yeah I hate to be a subfag but wtf why would they even do that?
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>>84242338
>wahhhh the mc is important to the plot
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>>84242369
How does that prove waifu bait exists?

>>84242386
Moeshit doesn't exist.
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>>84242260
nope
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>>84239440
But there spawns of the devil
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>>84242397
It's not the MC is important to the plot. It's 90% follow the same plot line.
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>>84242402
>>84242344
>>84242272
>I believe that she will win
>I believe that she will win
>I believe that she will win
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>>84242402
Because there is nothing else to talk about with those animes.
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is it true that it takes place in the modern day world and all the titans and the wall are in madagascar?
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>>84242057
Good thing /a/ has unironic Naruto and Dragonball s threads now though. Real bastion of quality that board is.
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>>84242419
"The chosen one" can be used to tell any number of stories.

>>84242423
?

>>84242432
There is, and even if there wasn't it would not prove that waifu bait exists.

At least try to think this through before posting.
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>>84242453
Nice proof you got there, faggot.
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>>84242440
Not really modern, it was around WW1 I guess?
But yeah, the wall is in madagascar.
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>>84242440
The area where the walls are, is madagascar

It's not modern world, more like world war 2 technology

The main place is like Nazi Germany
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>>84242453
>?
You're repeating mantras without actually arguing. Can't argue with a man who just repeats his mantra. Why are you here if you don't want to discuss things?
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>>84242481
Proof of what?

>>84242486
What are you talking about?
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>>84242219
AoT is actually an anti edge: the MC, who is a teen angst personified, is constantly ridiculed, looked down upon and in the latest chapter put in the same situation the people who he hated upon found themselves in. It's one of the cases where violence is justified as show is a lot about traumas and you can sympathize with characters more when you were through trauma of sorts by watching characters die a horrible death.

>>84242338
It's because it feels good to have an mc that does stuff. The best possible thing is not to disregard this source of satisfaction completely but to introduce and then to numerously probe and question in which aot does plenty.
>>84242440

Yeah and it's great because now it will be parkour boys vs ~ww2 technology
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>>84242498
You literally just say "there is no moebait" and that´s it. You are worth of shit.
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>>84242522
It's up to you to prove it exists. You're welcome to try (as hundreds of others have) but you won't succeed, because it doesn't exist.
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>>84242453
The point is that so many anime lean on one person (A kid) having weird magical powers who by pure coincidence is also the best at using said power in a way nobody can.
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>>84238861
>this simple description will not do the show justice.

Show is as basic as its premise. Just slap on the "oh, and there's occasional politics and every mystery reveal has 5 more mysteries around it" tag and you got everything covered.
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>>84238988
A prison because of another nation sending the titans around them because the king took the founding titan to the island that the walls is located and the other nation that was slowly conquering the rest of the region by capturing the 10 titans that the founding titans created but they only have 7 and the founding one is the one they need to be able to have complete control so they send the beast titan and reiner annie and berdholdt to retrieve the founding titan but arins dad confronts the founding titan first and is able to take her powers he then gives arin a shot of the serum that turns a special race of humans that are descendants of the original titans when injected into their spinal column he then has arin eat him because this is how titans transfer powers to another host because they can only use their powers for 11 years because that's how long the orginal was able to use hers before she died anyways the founding titan has the power to control all titans so that's why they want it
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>>84242550
I already did. I don´t have to prove anything anymore.
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>>84242555
Many Western stories use the "chosen one" concept too, but as always it's ok when the West does it.

>>84242562
You could dismiss any show in this fashion.
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>>84242586
Not every western story is based on it.
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attack on titan bored me to tears. so many episodes are just character backstory flashbacks.
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>>84242583
Where did you prove it?

>>84242610
Not every Japanese story is based on it either, so what's your point?
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>>84238959
Reiner can control his power. For example he can shutdown his regen or turn it on when he wants. He also has the ability to transfer the functions of his brain to another part of his body if he loses his head.
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I thought the show was interesting for the first few episodes however it went to shit so badly
>DUDE PEOPLE CAN TURN INTO TITANS LMAO
>EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER IS A TITAN
Fucking shit show
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>>84242555
Sometimes i ask myself if this is based on Japan being bitchslapped in WW2 while believing before that to be a chosen race.

And the other two things i hate about almost every damn anime are these tropes:

>old , wise Leader thinks about Strategy, tactic whatever
>whole time with closed eyes and crossed arms

>Evil scientist/Bad guy
>reflecting glasses while mostly looking down
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>>84242586
>You could dismiss any show in this fashion.

No you can't. Attack on Titan is probably the only anime out there that has a writer who doesn't want to reveal anything for the sake of muh mystery. Its just poor writing and stretches things far too long.
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>>84242643
it felt like teenage fan fiction which is worrying because now i wonder how bad the actual fan fiction is
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>>84242643
Why do so many people try to make it seem like the story was never supposed to be about humans transforming into titans, and that having the story be about that is somehow intrinsically bad?

>>84242657
>No you can't.
Yes you can.
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>>84242628
90% of anime is though that is my point.
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>>84240538
man this was a great little series I really like the rotoscope
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>>84242628
Look it up. A shit proof it may be but it´s still worth more than your "there is no moe bait".
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>>84242586
But jap animes go always full Mary Sue when it comes to their main character.

>main character
>special one besides that
>special powers
>always the one power that is the best
>maybe needs to learn it first but still the best
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>>84242676
Then name an example
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how about ova kino?
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>>84242677
It isn't, and of course the number you arrived at is 90%, because it's always either 90% or 99%. Every time someone makes some generalization of anime it's 90% or 99%.

>>84242691
I don't think they used rotoscoping outside of the OP and ED.

>>84242721
So you didn't prove it anywhere and are unable to prove it.

>>84242723
>But jap animes go always full Mary Sue when it comes to their main character.
No they don't.

>>84242724
"Lord of the Rings is about a guy who goes around adventuring."
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>>84242676
Its the damn pacing. Its starts with the mystery of the Titans and ends with the typical cliche that besides the main character almost everyone important around him is part of the " special group ".
Ten Titan powers and already over half of them to people being close. Come on.
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Jalapenos of the Iron Fortres was better, because it was the same shit, but condensed to 12 episodes with the train from Goldeneye.
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>>84242759
>It isn't, and of course the number you arrived at is 90%, because it's always either 90% or 99%. Every time someone makes some generalization of anime it's 90% or 99%.

see
>>84242723
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>>84242745
Only flaw is/was that the author had no clue about military tactics. The Battle " Strategies " from both sides were almost always the weakest part.
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>>84242643
>>84242669

>DUDE SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND. THE GUN IS THE DICK, GET IT? LMAO
>DUDE THE DINOSAURS HAD COMPASSION LMAO
>DUDE EVERYTHING IS A COMPUTER PROGRAM LMAO

Guys, what is your endgame. I will project here but did you get ridiculed as teens so now you can't enjoy stuff? aot has pretty serviceable reasons for most of the stuff that happens, what the fuck isnt
>LMAO
>fanfiction
at this point?
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>>84242777
So now it's suddenly about the pacing, even though your first complaint had nothing at all to do with that? You're just randomly coming up with this stuff.

>>84242797
>see >>84242723
As I already said: no they don't.
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>>84242796
it was good for only the first two episodes
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>>84242759
Name me an anime close to the storyarc/theme of attack on titans that isnt going this way ?
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>>84242817
Just like SnK then.
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>>84242811
>>DUDE SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND. THE GUN IS THE DICK, GET IT? LMAO
>>DUDE THE DINOSAURS HAD COMPASSION LMAO
>>DUDE EVERYTHING IS A COMPUTER PROGRAM LMAO
what the fuck? what's with this autist?
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>>84242822
What are you talking about?
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Remember
We're supposed to believe that /pol/ is the problem on /tv/ especially when ban evading shitposting liberals like op spam
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Anime%20can%27t%20be%20kin/type/op/
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>>84242842
you sound mentally challenged
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Season 1 was so fucking painful to watch. Maybe it's culture clash, but it's so cringey. The way character burst out screaming and act so over the top is unbearable. And on top of that they dragged the plot out to an absurd degree. Season 1 could have been cut down to a fraction of it's length. I watched season 1 because the concept seemed interesting, but I have no interest in watching season 2.
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>>84242815
I think you talk to two different people beliveing they are one and the same.

And it still stands. They are like one million people living inside the walls with ten titan powers and in a short amount of time we get almost all of them close together.
And of course they are either friends or relatives.
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>>84240539
>that pic
whos the artist? checked if its funi lab, but its not him.
got a sauce?
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>>84242892
The story explains why they are close to each other, and because this is fiction and not real life things don't just happen randomly.
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>>84242815
>My Hero Academia
>Naruto
>BORUTO
>Bleach
>Fairy Tail
>Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
>Re:ZERO
>Soul Eater
>Yu-Gi-Oh!
>Blue Exorcist
>Kill la Kill
>Every Mobile Suit Gundam

I can go on.

How many anime start with black was an ordinary high school student?
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>>84242936
fullmetal alchemist doesn't belong there
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>>84242745
I swear the new anime better not be shit. I'm honestly hoping it's good enough to generate interest in decent sci-fi in Japan again, maybe then my dream of more Crest of the Stars wouldn't be just a dream.
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>>84242759
>"Lord of the Rings is about a guy who goes around adventuring."
This is why I despise SNKfags, I was talking about big mysteries that are purposefully kept hidden for a ridiculous period before more mysteries open up and try to pull the reader in.

The fact is, Isayama has nothing else to pull people in other than le shock moments for the normalfags like the scene OP posted, dumb shipbait for the idiots who like to discuss best girls and mysteryfags who think basic politics is 'deep'.

Attack on Titan is shit, it'll always be shit because the characters, like most anime, fall under the same old archetypes that are shit. Mikasa is the emotionless female lead with the crush on MC, Eren is the dumb MC with loads of determination, Levi is the overpowered edgelord.
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>>84242891
I watched some animes when i was younger but once you see the same boring cliches over and over, you cant enjoy it any longer.

>intensive, life threatening fight/battle
>death right and left
>character stands still for minutes to think about every fucking Life decision or encounter he had in the last century
>still nobody attacks him during this
>gets out of his trance and immediatly starts screams like a Retard running into Battle while having now almost super powers.
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Kinœ
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>>84242991
it's the same retarded 'mystery box' jj abrams and damon lindelof used with lost. except unlike lost is lacks any semblance of meaningful character development. it's a shit show and the mystery key thing is the carrot on a stick for snkfags
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>>84242991
>Mikasa is the emotionless female lead with the crush on MC, Eren is the dumb MC with loads of determination, Levi is the overpowered edgelord.

This. They have and never will any kind of character developement
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>>84242996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrb3EqGEI_E
this was one of the first times i watched anime and the ending was pure kino
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>>84243047
I was like 10 when I first saw this and it made me cry
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>>84242936
You don't understand what a Mary Sue is, and you seem to be under the impression that anime consists of just shounen action, which is not at all the case.

>>84242991
>I was talking about big mysteries that are purposefully kept hidden for a ridiculous period before more mysteries open up and try to pull the reader in.
And I was talking about your way of dismissing a show by strawmanning it with some oversimplification.

>Attack on Titan is shit, it'll always be shit because the characters, like most anime, fall under the same old archetypes that are shit.
You people always go out of your way to shove characters into boxes, write "shit" on the boxes, and then complain that the characters are all shit. Doesn't matter what the characters are actually like.

>>84242992
Different genres have different cliches, not all shows have cliches or the same cliches or the same cliches executed in the same ways, and this is the pot calling the kettle black since Western media is full of cliches too.

And like so many other people you think Naruto/Dragon Ball etc. represents the entirety of anime. Where's your life threatening battles in Azumanga Daioh or Shirobako?
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>>84238677
literally the best scene in television this year
based Erwin is the new Stannis and he will die like a bitch too
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>>84239430
My guess here is, besides the time taken for creating the animation fx, the anime is going at a slower pace on purpose so it can keep up with the manga and either give it time to get more sales before the anime catches up, or by giving the plot enough time to develop and just recreate it more faithfully. A lot of animes went shit when the manga was being developed and couldn't catch up with the show's demand, leading to a different and sometimes shittier conclusion.
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>>84242992
>it's all the same shit because I watched a few battle anime
It's like watching Transformers and saying all science fiction is shit.
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>watching cartoons for little children
At last watch good shit like Krtek
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>>84243083
>Where's your life threatening battles in Azumanga Daioh or Shirobako?

Are we now throwing everything into this ?

Of course its about cliches in the same scenarios. Anime about the daily Life of modern day japanese pupils has for sure no Life and death battles.

Its noz about 100% or zero but a majority of the released products. And for the majority you can say: had you seen one, you had seen all.

Without big surprises unlike many western stories these days which turn this around and allow their characters to develop.
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>>84243110
>that part in season 1 when Erwin is held at gunpoint
>'sure, you can kill me, as long as you take over the mission.'

Best character.
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>>84238531
I couldn't stand the main 3 main characters, does season 2 do them any better? Are they in it at all? I'd probably watch it if that were the case.
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>>84243173
Science fiction is shit though. It's even worse than horror and action you dumb entry level reddit movie buff
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>>84243173
You seem to lack basic reading comprehension.
I was talking about the same cliches ( and yes that happen way to often ) and not every battle anime in existence.
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>>84243218
They're in it for the last half.
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>>84243110
>literally the best scene in television this year
uhh..
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>>84243223
>shits on science fiction
>is a genre fag himself
lol
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>>84243194
>Are we now throwing everything into this ?
Yes? Anime is not just shounen action shows.

>And for the majority you can say: had you seen one, you had seen all.
The couple of shounen action shows you watched do not constitute the majority, they are a very, very small minority of anime. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>84243110
Not really

They won because of their sacrifice
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>>84238825
Bunch of kids with goofy names have to fight Giants that want to eat them.
Looks like it will be a "humans were the real monsters all along" type deal.
Manga is probably better.
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>>84243204
Muh basement
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>>84238531
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>when the anime you're watching has an intro by asian kungfu generation
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>>84243265
Japan will never got over the fact that they lost WW 2 besides doing useless Kamikaze missions.
Thats their childish way to compensate.
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>>84243274
>manga is probably better
It's literally the same shit.
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>>84243110
>watching Attack on titan and game of thrones
wew lad. I feel bad for you
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>>84243239
Fucking entry level reddit scum. I can already tell you think event horizon is good too
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>>84239540

Damn, that's great. Source pls?
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>>84243322
Attack on Titan is the Walking Dead of anime, so it's not so surprising that people who watch it also watch GoT.
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>>84243295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkH8ti1gakE
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>>84239540
This webm is pure reddit
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>>84239059
It's unironically kino.
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How can anime even compete?
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>>84243428
Eva is hot garbage
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>>84242991
>big mysteries that are purposefully kept hidden for a ridiculous period before more mysteries open up and try to pull the reader in.

How is that bad? they had reasons for not knowing stuff, and good ones: from genetic meddling to police cleaning and other stuff.

>Mikasa is the emotionless
? I mean she isn't that interesting but how is she emotionless?
>Eren is the dumb MC
Yeah and he sees himself like that and he constantly growth through it and the current arc will basically be a cruel joke on his past self.

>Levi is the overpowered edgelord

He cares about his subbordinates deeply and it's shown time and time again. He is an edgelord partly to his upbringing and partly because people around him died time and time again and he is hurt deeply by that.

> mysteryfags who think basic politics is 'deep'.

Mystery is only partly connected to politics, overall it works on many levels and has good execution and yeah is pretty deep
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>>84243458
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Guess I'll ask here

I'm looking to get into a good anime to scratch my DBZ itch (I refuse to watch super)

It's between My hero acadamia and One punch man

Which does /tv/ recommend?
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>>84243083
>You people always go out of your way to shove characters into boxes, write "shit" on the boxes, and then complain that the characters are all shit. Doesn't matter what the characters are actually like.

I actually care for characters being well-written. The simple fact is AOT is no different from your typical slice of life anime. Same boring archetypal characters that never go through any meaningful character development at all. 99% of Japanese writers across all mediums do not understand the concept of character development, that's just how it is.
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>>84242996
This looks amazing but I'm usually not found of mecha. How good is it?
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https://youtu.be/XxYjzfMMp0s
https://youtu.be/Pqsx8OohVKY
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>>84243560
Both are for kids. Watch Cowboy Bebop instead.
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>>84243560
mob psycho 100
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>>84243560
Hero Academia is garbage, definitely watch OPM and the OVA's.
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>>84243586
Cowboy Bebop is shit. Literally no plot
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>>84243563
>I actually care for characters being well-written.
You just plainly demonstrated that you don't. You see a character and you immediately dump them into whatever box seems to fit them the most.

>The simple fact is AOT is no different from your typical slice of life anime. Same boring archetypal characters that never go through any meaningful character development at all.
Except AOT does have character development and so do many SoL anime. However, character development is not a necessary part of a story. It's just fetishized by people who think absolutely every story has to be like some award winning American drama.

>99% of Japanese writers across all mediums do not understand the concept of character development, that's just how it is.
You don't know anything about character development or writing in general.
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>>84243559
Damn Asuka looks like THAT?
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>>84243630
not enough pedobait lolis and panty shots for you?
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>>84243586
OPM at least is not for children, and something isn't bad just because it's for children.

>>84243630
Something lacking or supposedly lacking a plot does not make it shit.

>>84243658
Pedobait doesn't exist.
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>>84243559
>''''''''''''''''people'''''''''''''''''''' watch this
wew
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>>84243560
none
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>>84243563
That is plain wrong: anime embrace character development fully unlike muh realistic nothing ever changes of tv shows.
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>>84243689
What's the problem with people watching that?
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>>84243658
>>84243674
Anime is garbage in general. Everything live action is 10x better than weeb shit
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>>84238531
BERTORTO
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>>84243560
One punch if you really want to get that DBZ itch gone in like the first episode my hero is a little slower and about a kid becoming the greatest hero ever really slowly and pretty much only starting to delve into his powers in the second season I would also recommend Saga of Tanya the Evil
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>>84243560
Neither. They're all shit.
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>>84243720
It's literally cute girls doing cute things therefore it's shit
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>>84243730
Anime cannot be weeaboo, and if anime is generally garbage then so is everything else.

>>84243751
Cute girls doing cute things doesn't exist.
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This thread justifies every single /pol/ news thread that is going to be made this week because of the dems attempt at covering up lynch
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>>84243466
>? I mean she isn't that interesting but how is she emotionless?
Her expressions are very limited. Its either completely emotionless or angry as fuck
>Yeah and he sees himself like that and he constantly growth through it and the current arc will basically be a cruel joke on his past self.
The fact that the current arc finally has him growing somewhat just proves my point. Characters should start growing and changing early on, not this shit.
>He cares about his subbordinates deeply
And still most normal people don't care because he has no weaknesses brought to the forefront. Any fight involving Levi is devoid of any sense of fear for his life.


>Mystery is only partly connected to politics, overall it works on many levels and has good execution and yeah is pretty deep
Its bang average, not deep.
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>>84243110
>comparing erwin to stannis

SNKfags everyone
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>>84242900
Tamagoro I think
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>>84243900
>Her expressions are very limited. Its either completely emotionless or angry as fuck
Limited expressions don't mean a lack of emotions.

>Characters should start growing and changing early on, not this shit.
Based on what?

>And still most normal people don't care because he has no weaknesses brought to the forefront.
Characters don't necessarily need to have weaknesses.

The problem with you people is that you think there's this one single formula for writing fiction that every story has to follow to the fucking letter.
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>>84243560
>It's between My hero acadamia and One punch man

Neither, the former is an above average shonen and the latter is a parody of shonen that quickly becomes a parody of itself.

Watch HxH
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>>84243951
>The problem with you people is that you think there's this one single formula for writing fiction that every story has to follow to the fucking letter.

Not that guy but no the " problem " is that japanese authors are doing always the opposite and going for the same formula over and over. Maybe because the majority of viewers would throw a tantrum if they make something out of the box.
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>>84244062
>going for the same formula over and over
No they don't.

>Maybe because the majority of viewers would throw a tantrum if they make something out of the box.
Yeah, people sure hated Kemono Friends for being too different.

And the problem IS that people are approaching anime with completely false expectations based on the perfect drama formula that they think has to apply to anything and everything. It's a more oppressive formula than anything the anime industry could ever come up with.
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>>84243719
>anime embrace character development fully
No they don't.
>>84243951
>Limited expressions don't mean a lack of emotions.
Might as well be considering how she does practically nothing
>Based on what?
Maybe I expect good storytelling from Japan
>Characters don't necessarily need to have weaknesses.
You do understand 99% of humans have a weakness. You're living in a fantasy world if you think weaknesses don't exist.
>The problem with you people is that you think there's this one single formula for writing fiction that every story has to follow to the fucking letter.
What the hell is the appeal then with AOT? The plotwists are dumb, the worldbuilding is generic as fuck, and the action is the same repetitive shit. Ironically, its the Japanese writers who follow the worst formula, the same archetypes the same worldbuilding (or lack of) and the same dumb plotwists.
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>>84243960
>Watch HxH
>ends without conclusion of most of the plot lines
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>>84244134
>leaves plot threads open for further use whilst naturally continuing the main storyline
>on hiatus, but its standalone arcs still shit on most anime
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>>84244123
>No they don't.
Yes they do.

>Might as well be considering how she does practically nothing
So you've either not seen the show or you're lying. And when did this become about what she does?

>Maybe I expect good storytelling from Japan
And why does that require characters to start immediately developing?

>You do understand 99% of humans have a weakness. You're living in a fantasy world if you think weaknesses don't exist.
We are talking about fiction, not real life. You're living in a fantasy world if you can't tell the difference.

>The plotwists are dumb
In your opinion.

>the worldbuilding is generic as fuck
So you are claiming it's very common to have a late medieval setting where humans are barricaded behind high walls and use wires to fly around and fight the man-eating giants outside? Or are you using generic as the generic shorthand for "I don't like this"?

>the action is the same repetitive shit
No it isn't.

>Ironically, its the Japanese writers who follow the worst formula, the same archetypes the same worldbuilding (or lack of) and the same dumb plotwists.
There is no such formula, but you on the other hand are trying to force a universal formula upon all anime.
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>>84244113
>And the problem IS that people are approaching anime with completely false expectations based on the perfect drama

I cant and wont talk about the expactations of ours but tell you about one of mines recently.

I found out about Gate and thought i see a series about questions like how do deal with colonialism, japan struggling between keeping to the Laws after WW2 about their military and the opportunities of getting new ressources/land on the other side.
Same with the other nations, possibly by finding other gates.

What i got was typical fan service after like 3-4 episodes with pantyshots and a loli death goddes who gets orgasms when people are dying.
Of course one could it was completyl my fault not looking deeper at the genre or whatsoever.
But for something i intended to watch without knowing more than the general starting plot, it became another disappointment due to typical anime cliches.
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>>84244374
others not ours i meant
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>>84244374
It's not the fault of Gate that you went in with made up expectations and got offended by "typical anime cliches."

I'm also sick of the way people talk about anime cliches like cliches were something that don't exist outside anime. Like there's no cliches in Western media at all, or even if there are they are the good kind of cliches that every right-thinking person is into.
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>>84243900
Yes micasa is a "restrained" character, nothing particularly wrong with that. Would have been boring if she was the center of the universe but she isn't.

>The fact that the current arc finally has him growing somewhat just proves my point. Characters should start growing and changing early on, not this shit.

He changed early on though, he was just a simple kid who went for his sense of what is right and changed into edgelord with messiah complex. Then he went through the phase of feeling completely worthless and wanting to die and before timeskip he seemingly accepted himself. Over the course of the series he constantly expanded and changed but because it's a manga it took a shitton of time to do so.

>Its bang average

I would love to live in the world where snk's mystery is average. Well i guess the wikipedia page on it isn't that impressive but the way it's revealed is great.
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>>84244217
>on hiatus
NOT ANYMORE
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>>84244260
>And why does that require characters to start immediately developing?
Makes shit make sense more down the line. Look at Bertholdt's dumb reveal, apart from a couple vague hints, we got nothing for his mentality or his motives. It just happened and slap on great music and it suddenly becomes an epic moment to you people.

If you don't plant the seeds for character growth, it becomes sudden and very unwarranted. There's less ephasis on character growth and more on dumb coincidences. When 90% of the graduates are titans/royalty its shit.

>>84244511
>He changed early on though
Yeah, a change which showed he will have to watch some of his friends die before he ever gets revenge. Then he gets angrier and sadder and it becomes even more boring. The fact is, he's doing this out of sheer curiosity for the outside world, nothing more.
>Well i guess the wikipedia page on it isn't that impressive but the way it's revealed is great.
lol nazis and shit is basically how i can sum it up
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>>84244699
http://www.anime-now.com/entry/2017/05/12/230014
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>>84244472
what you seem to be doing is thinking that when people are being anti-cliche they are being anti-japan

kind of defensive don't you think you dirty little weeb?
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>>84244699
>lol nazis and shit is basically how i can sum it up
Every mystery can be summed up in a meme phrase, it's the execution that matters and it was great in aot
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>>84244815
It is anti-Japan when it's a double standard.

>defensive
Every time someone defends anime, they're supposedly being defensive. Defending anime is not allowed. It's wrong. It's "defensive." They are just supposed to quietly accept all the criticism and accusations and lies.

>weeb
I'm not a weeb and you don't know what the word means.
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>>84244954
you aren't defending anime, you're defending lazy clichés that just so happen to be overepresented in anime
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>>84244999
You say this like me defending cliches in anime is automatically bad and something I should not be doing.

There's nowadays the default assumption that you just can't defend anime. It's indefensible and inexcusable. It's wrong to defend it. Anime is bad, everything about it is bad, you can't defend it, you aren't allowed to defend it. If you do you're a weeb and autistic and baiting.
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>>84245085
if you're gonna defend anime at least defend the parts that are good and not the shitty cliches
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>>84245198
I am arguing (or rather stating as a fact) that there are cliches everywhere, not just in anime. Western media has cliches too, but people deny it because then it's harder to attack anime. Cliches are also not automatically bad or good.
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>>84239540

Source plssssss
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>>84244472
I wasnt " offended ", why should i, i am not some hypocrite muslim ?!
It was just boring seeing this shit again there too.

And yes cliches exist but mostly sudden cliches stay inside their specific genres.
Action heroes who always make some joke while being inside battle ? I get it.

But Gate where you see " Wargore " at one moment and questions if the USA or China will occupy the Gate at one moment and annyoing Loli pantyshots at the next.
Come on..
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>>84238772
>/tv/ the pedophile board has a problem with /a/ and lolis
you just can't make this shit up!
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>>84245640
>But Gate where you see " Wargore " at one moment and questions if the USA or China will occupy the Gate at one moment and annyoing Loli pantyshots at the next.
Is mixing different levels of seriousness now an unacceptable cliche too?

Everything has to be a perfect straight-laced drama.
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>>84245674
>different levels of seriousness

There is no seriousness when out of nowhere a Loli gets an orgasm because around her is a fucking slaughter fest while we see superior machines mowing down 5th century tech soldiers.

They can do that sure, but its still retarded. And fucked something that could have a good story otherwise.
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>>84245747
I said "different levels of seriousness." I didn't say there is no seriousness.
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>>84245239
Its not just that cliches exist, no matter being it in western or japanese productions.
But the sheer amount of them ( and alway the few same ) is just annoying and you something you get bored of when you reached a certain age and watched enough of it.
No matter if its genres for adults or adolescents.
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>>84245803
You just don't notice the cliches in Western media because you're so used to them. And once again cliches are not intrinsically good or bad.
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>>84245852
>You just don't notice the cliches in Western media because you're so used to them

So now you are a telepath too?
And cliches are bad if you throw extreme different ones into one creation like a fucking Pollock painting.
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>>84245932
You people always complain about cliches in anime like they didn't exist anywhere else. And I can't remember the last time I saw anyone talk about tropes (which are regarded as intrinsically bad, even though they're not) in any context other than anime.
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Season 2 was good but not amazing like season 1. S2 suffers from typical anime bullshit where the crazy becomes ordinary, the world becomes small. Every moment felt heavy in S1, like when Annie kills Levi squad you could feel Eren's pain at making the wrong choice, the music was well placed and the structure of every scene was near perfect. S2 felt like a spinoff series of S1. There was just a lot of chatting between these characters we already know. Every episode was a lot of talking filling the space between a minute of action, almost always followed by "To be continued...". And of course the worst part about all of this is that the season was half the length. I hate to be snobbish, but the end result for S2 was half the product made with a quarter of the effort, in comparison to S1.
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>>84246002
> I hate to be snobbish, but the end result for S2 was half the product made with a quarter of the effort, in comparison to S1.
S2 was a really high quality production, but in typical fashion people just keep claiming the exact opposite.
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>>84246002
But Season 1 was awful
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