>Tarkovsky dismissed color film as a "commercial gimmick"

>>84191039
>He claimed that in everyday life one does not consciously notice colors most of the time

fascinating perspective

>>84191039
It doesn't get any more patrician then this

colors really are stupid

>>84191039
>>84191070
he probably meant not consciously, nobody can be this stupid

isn't every flick he ever made in color?

colors are feminine

>>84191039
Panchromatic black and white is a lot more detailed and has a wider range than colour """"""film""""" you fucking pleb

>>84191135
A lot of them are half and half, It's because the USSR was so shit-tier they couldn't even provide their biggest director with enough color filmstock. Tarkovsky being a little bitch made up some philosophical gibberish about perception to brush it off

>>84191039
how the fuck do I know when it's a green light or a red light then dumbass

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>filmmaker talks about films
I hate when they do that

>>84191194
sentimentality

>>84191194
traffic lights are commercial gimmick

>>84191186
he did most of his kinos outside of russia, stupid mong

>>84191039
>color film
>commercial gimmick
Literally how? Keep in mind he said this in the 70s I doubt "In color" was much of an audience draw

Pure genius. Anyone who has one doubt about Tarko is subhuman

>>84191039
Before you get banned for being underage, you got to understand that at one point the world was black and white until some fag invented color, you're just too young and live in a post-color world

>>84191255
>first 8 films made in Russia
>Last 2 films made elsewhere
You're a retard

You don't consciously register every sound around you either, why aren't all his films silent?

>>84191305
>all the young teens love talking about 60s russian cinema
>>>>/x/

>>84191121
What?

>>84191194
Green light is at the bottom, red light is at the top.

>>84191349
TARKOVSKY BTFO

I'd say that if people don't consciously notice color that is more of a reason to utilize and take advantage of it. What a pretentious things to say, people don't notice it normally so I shouldn't push it and take advantage of it in my medium

>>84191268
bresson >ULTRAPOWERGAP> tarkovsky

>>84191380
like you don't go around saying this is blue that is red etc. you don't think about it
at least that's what I interpret he means when he says people don't notice colors

Here's the actual quote, btw:

>At the moment, I don't think colour film is anything more than a commercial gimmick. I don't know a single film that uses colour well. In any colour film the graphics impinge on one's perception of the events. In everyday life we seldom pay any special attention to colour. When we watch something going on we don't notice colour. A black-and-white film immediately creates the impression that your attention is concentrated on what is most important. On the screen colour imposes itself on you, whereas in real life that only happens at odd moments, so it's not right for the audience to be constantly aware of colour. Isolated details can be in colour if that is what corresponds to the state of the character on the screen. In real life the line that separates unawareness of colour from the moment when you start to notice it is quite imperceptible. Our unbroken, evenly paced flow of attention will suddenly be concentrated on some specific detail. A similar effect is achieved in a film when coloured shots are inserted into black-and-white.”

>>84191359
OP probably heard about Tarkovsky once he started browsing reddit. Also, There is no evidence that color existed until it was invented, just look at all the photographs from the 19th century

>>84191452
Reread the OP qote
>one does not consciously notice colors

From Sculpting in Time:

>The perception of colour is a physiological and psychological phenomenon to which, as a rule, nobody pays particular attention. The picturesque character of a shot, due often enough simply to the quality of the film, is one more artificial element loaded onto the image, and something has to be done to counteract it if you mind about being faithful to life. You have to try to neutralize colour, to modify its impact on the audience. If colour becomes the dominant dramatic element of the shot, it means that the director and camera-man are using a painter’s methods to affect the audience. That is why nowadays one very often finds that the average expertly made film will have the same sort of appeal as the luxuriously illustrated glossy magazine; the colour photography will be warring against the expressiveness of the image.

>Perhaps the effect of colour should be neutralized by alternating colour and monochromatic sequences, so that the impression made by the complete spectrum is spaced out, toned down. Why is it, when all that the camera is doing is recording real life on film, that a coloured shot should seem so unbelievably, monstrously false? The explanation must surely be that colour, reproduced mechanically, lacks the touch of the artist’s hand; in this area he loses his organizing function, and has no means of selecting what he wants. The film’s chromatic partitura, with its own developmental pattern, is absent, taken away from the director by the technological process. It also becomes impossible for him to select and reappraise the colour elements in the world around him. Strangely enough, even though the world is coloured, the black and white image comes closer to the psychological, naturalistic truth of art, based as it is on special properties of seeing as well as of hearing."

Can someone post that autistic rant where Tarkovsky claims he never uses symbolism in his films and then goes on to describe the meaning of the symbolism in solaris

>>84191519
I get drawing the viewers attention to a coloured object in an otherwise black and white film (even though if we're talking gimmicks that's about as cheesy as it gets) but real fucking life is in colour, it's not imposed on you if the entire film is in colour also, it's just colour onto more colour

>>84191519
>>84191577
The more you listen to him the more you realize what a hypocrite he is

>>84191577
Someone gets paid to not only believe this shit, but to teach it too.

>>84191305
>>84191555
we heard you the first time faggot

>>84191599
Is that true?
Also, was the really long road shot in Solaris made to bother plebs?

I want to know if this is a myth.

>>84191519
>>84191577
>this much damage control because you could barely afford color film

>>84191039
Actually except on the very center of your vision, you see in black and white, but your brain is good at filling blank.

>>84191599
I actually have an interview recopilation book where he talks about that.
He also rambles about how women are emotionally inferior to men
Shit's great

>>84191786
He got permission to film in Japan which was a big deal for USSR, he intended to film a world's fair for a futuristic look, but missed that, seeing as he was already there he just filmed everything he could and put it in his flick to make the journey worthwhile. It wasn't intended to be a plebfilter, to a Russian audience at the time Tokyo would have looked very impressive

>muh dads poems

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>the ending sequence to Andrei Rublev
P u r e k i n o

>>84191349
>You don't consciously register every sound around you either,
That's a case for movies to not have foley, just dialogue and music unless it serves an artistic or storytelling purpose. And I'd agree with that. Maybe movies should only have color when necessary to the story or aesthetic too.

More like Angry Tarkovsky

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>>84191070
He's right. Pic related.

Besides I'm sure in some way his dismissal of color hard partly to do with disdain for symbolism which many still to this day use colors as a means to achieve that.

>>84191907
Name pls, I need this.

I have one article about a filmmaker used in a Godard movie trashing him after watching the same movie.

>>84191386
What about night time?

There are certain films and periods where films are desaturated. Late nineties and early 00s scifi and action films were blue or green. Nolan and his copycats are grey. Yellows are used in films set in deserts.

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>>84191555
tarkovsky browses reddit ? why the fuck are we even talking about this fag

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The original /tv/ shitposter

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>>84192044
This book
The interview I'm talking about is with Irena Brezna in 1984 if you can find it online (have the book open right now)

>>84192125
Do you have reading comprehension? I said OP browses reddit and that's probably where he heard of Tarkovsky. Either way this is a shit thread

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>>84192166
>I saw a very bad film by Bunuel

>>84192166
He talks a big game for a man who only made one good film in his entire life.

>>84192178
Andrei pls

>>84192224
t. Vadim

>>84192224
Let me guess you think that one good film is Stalker. Fuck off.

>>84192258
No, it's The Mirror. Stalker is crap.

>>84192282
I agree with everything you said. Mirror stands above the rest but to say it's his only good film is foolishness. Nostalghia is a very close second as is Sacrifice.

>>84192224
That's what makes him so funny, he's just a grumpy russian with no self awareness

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>>84192166
>Did he actually die not knowing he was a hack?

>>84192166
>shitting on Vadim Yusov

With Vadim:
>Ivan's Childhood
>Andrei Rublev
>Solaris

Without Vadim:
>The Mirror
>Stalker
>Nostalghia
>The Sacrifice

>>84192166
>Did he actually die not knowing he was a hack?

Holy shit.

>>84192333
You're not helping your case, Vadim.

>>84192166
This gotta be true, it's too good to be fake.

>>84192041
>84192041
implying black and white arent base colors

>>84192044
godard is a joke.
my alcoholic neioghbor could make better movies

>>84191039
What he's talking about is that qualia is an illusion and a pointless concept.

>>84192170
Thanks anon

>>84191039
Communists can't afford to see in color

>>84192442
>implying you're not a pedantic nigger

>>84192166
>autistically loved Star Wars
>saw The Terminator for the kino it was
truly /ourguy/

>>84191039
>He claimed that in everyday life one does not consciously notice colors most of the time
Good thing film is not everyday life.

>>84192166
I love Tarkovsky, but by God, what a miserable asshole!

>>84192604
well he was russian

>>84192451
The article is about how Godard couldn't do terrifying scenes because he always tried to do a beautiful photography and tried to do moralist bullshit with leftist propaganda. This coming from a leftist political filmmaker.

>>84192604
It was pre-internet, you had to shitpost inward, into your diary back then

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>>84192166
>doesn't recognize the genius of Fulci
>calls other people pleb

This is worse than autistic color theory.

>>84192538
>loved Star Wars
>implying he didn't lie to his beloved son who was a young kid when it came out so he didn't break his heart

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people who grew up with black and white tv and film reported to also dreaming in black and white

I imagine Tarks work involving dreams and memories might have had something to do with it

>>84192647
He was jealous that Fulci was Italian

>>84192538
I was aware that he liked Terminator, but where did he say he loved star wars?
It seems like exactly the kind of shit he would hate

>>84192667
he was a soviet dad in the 70s if he didn't want to tell the truth he would have just smacked him

>>84192720
I always asked him what kind of movies he was watching. I envied him for having seen Star Wars, for instance. I asked him how the film was and he would tell me the whole story, including every little detail. He basically allowed me to see the film in my imagination.

So Andrey Tarkovsky loved Star Wars?

Of course! He then showed me Akira Kurosawa’s The Hidden Fortress, which is, as we all know, the blueprint of Star Wars

>>84192749
You underestimate how much he loved his son. He was a doting father in every sense of the word.

Tarkovsky was a absolute sperg
t.russian

>>84192789
>tfw even tarkovsky switched his brain off for a flick

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>>84192834
Agreed

>>84193167
kek
>deleuzian
wat
where can I read more about this

I thought no one took Deleuze in a serious way. Maybe this was before Deleuze wrote that shit with Guattari.

>>84191039
Tarkovsky is an idiot, tbqh

>>84191039
>I don't like color film
>Goes on to make color films
>I don't like space fiction
>Goes on to make space fiction
Hmmmmmm

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>>84191039
I think it's safe to say that he changed his opinion on these things.

>>84191981
Sin City is a great example of a movie that only uses colours when needed
Wish more movies utilized that style

>>84191305
>>84191555
calvin and hobbes did it first

>>84192320
>>84192333
I must admit that I viscerally hated Tarkovsky's "Nostalgia" and completely hated the use of Beethoven in it. I've seen it only once, but none of the Tarkovsky films that I have seen did I think are really good.

>>84191039
It's true that we don't notice colors most of the time as long as things have the colors we expect them to have, but we certainly notice their absence!

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Anyone have that quote where Tarkovsky said he was shitty at making movies, but that he was still better than the vast majority of directors?

>>84194285
>and completely hated the use of Beethoven in it.
Why though? The insane guy using the music was trying to revolutionize everything. Ode to Joy is pretty much the anthem of revolutions.

i swear we already had this thread a few weeks ago

>>84194818
Time is a flat circle.

>>84194818
You should check the archives newboy.
its pasta

>>84193541
>Soviet Russia's shitty attempt at 2001: A Space Odyssey
>Can't even afford a rotating set
"uhhh j-just have him run around in circles, it's s-sculpting in time, e-every other director is shit except m-me"

>>84195070
>he doesn't know that budged for Solaris was slashed two times
>he doesn't know that he only saw 2001 on an invite from the American ambassador after the movie was in post production

>>84194653
You can tell he wanted to be a poet/painter, he was bizarrely bitter about being a filmmaker it wasn't like anyone was forcing him

>>84195111
>budget*

>>84195111
Thanks for the (you), nice trips

>>84195111
I'm sorry, but I don't see how you argued against any of his points?

Imagine being this fatalistic.

Imagine wanting the USA to be like this.

Based Tark ousting plebs.

>>84195111
Tarkovsky's knowledge of the film is irrelevant, it's obvious Solaris was the Russian government's answer to America's big space race propaganda flick

Plebs hate based Lynch, Tark, Cameron and Bay.

>>84195185
>Imagine being this fatalistic.
>Imagine wanting the USA to be like this.
DUDE GOD DOESNT EXIST BUUUUUUUURP LMAO
M-M-M-MORTY NOTHING YOU DO MATTERS ANYWAY JUST FUCK MEN AND SMOKE WEED AND IM A PICKLE RICK *BUUUUURP* LMAO

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>>84195111
>>84195222

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>>84191039
>Russians
>human

>>84195222
thats why they cut his budget because they wanted 2001 clone.
Please stop making these ridiculous claims.

>>84195272
F

>>84195303
>You are absolutely correct now stop telling the truth

>>84195328
>im literally making shit up and you can stop me
ok bud you win

>>84195328
not an argument

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>Yes Andrei, everything stinks

>>84195472
just like /tv/ hates everything, tarkovsky really is/ourguy/

>With the exception of City Lights, the list does not contain any films of the early silent era. The reason is that Tarkovsky saw film as an art as only a relatively recent phenomenon, with the early film-making forming only a prelude.
Was he on a mission to have the worst opinions when it comes to film?

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>>84192328
>melee

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>>84191039
What does this image remind me of...

>>84195668
>nothing personnel, pleb

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>>84195303
>They cut the budget, to make a 2001 clone

>>84191039
>>84191577
>>84192166
>>84192789
>>84195597
Was it autism?

>>84195668
kek

>>84195597
Most silent films were plagued by terrible adaptations book/play adaptations and therefore shit. They had no idea the true essence of cinema nor it's potential, still thinking and using it as if it were a stage play. Fucking pseuds man I swear to god.

1. Offret
2. Andrei Rublev
3. The Mirror
4. Solaris
5. Nostalghia
6. Stalker

I haven't seen Ivan's Childhood yet. Did I like it?

Lol what a dumbass. Everyone notices colour all the time

>>84191422
Explain

>>84191958
underrated

>>84192041
This is the most retarded image i've ever seen.
>look what happens when you remove color!
>look what happens when you remove value!
>look what happens when you remove both!
>whoa

>>84195813
>metropolis
>battleship potemkin
>greed
>the thief of bagdad
>haxan
>cabinet of dr.caligari
>intolerance
>napoleon
>the passion of joan of arc
Yeah man they had no clue what they were doing back then! fucking pseuds man le swear to god

>>84195918
nothing top ten worthy save for the passion of joan of arc

>>84195915
How is that retarded?

i dont see color

>>84195813
>Most silent films were plagued by terrible adaptations book/play adaptations and therefore shit
>Most films are plagued by terrible comic book adaptions and therefore shit

>>84192224
and you?

>>84195827
The Sacrifice > Stalker > Nostalghia = Andrei Rublev > The Mirror > Solaris > Ivan's Childhood

>>84195977
Yes, that's completely right.

>>84195977
This is true

>>84195949
Ironically you only know about these films from top ten lists, you should check them out sometime

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>>84196011
>>84196013
>hate film
>visit /tv/

>>84196059
This is a shitposting board, anon. This place hasn't been about film for YEARS.

>>84196026
I've seen a half of them and heard about the rest from The Story of Film: An Odyssey.

>>84196094
>currently in a thread shitposting about a revered director
It can be both

>>84196125
>Shitposts can't be hurling truth

Tarkovksy has shit taste and shit opinions but he's still a very good director desu

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>>84196059
It's the /tv/ way

Can anyone recommend me good Tarkovsky? I thought Stalker was the best Xanax I've ever had.

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Reminder

>>84196253
Everything about this is right besides the Tarkovsky part. Maybe if Kubrick was there instead then it'd make more sense.

>>84196296
Kubrick is too well known. A true Pseud picks a non-household in order to see more cultured.

>>84192166
lol who wrote this

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Intolerance > Mirror

inb4 but Intolerance wasn't autobiographical. Griffith made plenty of autobiographical films, and some people say instead of mixing epic, he should have mixed disparate smaller stories, but that would eliminate what makes Intolerance so outstanding. It combines everything and is not a small tale. It is the collective story of mankind and an entire medium.

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>>84196237
Just watch all his films starting with Ivan's Childhood.

Save The Mirror for last though.

really dumb thing to say but mostly funny

>>84196253
i don't fucking get it

>>84196377
Well, I guess it's just that everyone I know who has acted like a film buff has been a huge fan of Kubrick's. Maybe I haven't met a "true pseud" yet.

>>84195813
>Most silent films were plagued by terrible adaptations book/play adaptations and therefore shit
Griffith didn't even use scripts pseud

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>>84196104
>getting your history from a literal faggot. You don't belong here

>>84196253
I tried MPC HC and it fucking sucked, everything was so grainy. I will continue to unironically use superior VLC

>>84196479
Kubrick isn't 2deep4you, so you can't be a pseud and call him your favorite director. Pseuds will use tarkovsky or jodorowsky for that honor.

He's not wrong

>Marvel_Airport_fight.webm

jeez this thread reminds me summers here ...

>>84196529
>And when I go Don't you follow Leave alone Leave alone, cos you know you don't belong

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>listening to a manlet

>>84191039
>gimmick
>one does not notice

The whole idea of a gimmick is that it's something that is easily noticed but cheap as a result.

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>>84192041

How can colour not have an intensity value? Here's a black and white image with no contrast in value.

>>84196878
he meant that people only notice on the screen when the colors are in their face, but not in real life

>>84191519
>artists have painted in and written about color for thousands of years
>nobody actually notices it

What the fuck was his problem.

>>84196841
Fuck, I just realized I'm as short as him...

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>>84197209
Murnau > Tarkovshit

>>84191039
source?

>>84191039

Reminder that Tarkovsky was a literal faggot as clearly stated in his diary.
If he didn't die of cancer he probably would've died of AIDS.

>>84197636
>homophobia in 2017
hi summer

>>84197636
and yet he had two wives and three sons while you're still a virgin who jerks off to cartoons

>>84196253

Well, to be fair, for a 16 year old that is impressive actually.

They can be vocal about their "superior taste" on the internet especially but they'll grow out of that phase in their early 20's and start watching shitty animes instead.

>>84196421
Tarkovsky, it's not fake

Commies really are brain damaged cultists.

>>84198016
>projecting this much

HAHA lmao@you manchild. I lost my virginity at 16.

>>84197695
uhh there's nothing homophobic about that sweetie

>>84196691
But Marvel films are in black and white

>>84197347
what the fuck

>>84197621
Your stupid cunt of a mother, now read the thread

>>84198064
>>84198065
>If I make a post on my phone at the exact same time no one will know I'm samefagging

>>84196693
>discussing the filmography and life of Andrei Tarkovsky
Yeah it really reeks of new faggots around here am I right my fellow 4chanian? :)

>>84196176
/thread

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>>84198169
ok

>>84197347
>lanklet
>hack director
God showed no mercy on this poor fool

>>84198291
>Being this stupid
Wow

Friendly reminder no one has elevated cinema as an art form as much as Tarkovsky did.

>>84198291
>being this new

>>84198331
Tarantino literally revived cinema as an artform in the 90s

>>84198370
*hollywood cinema
Surely you must realize the futility in polishing a piece of shit.

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>>84198437
Hollywood is more kino than foreignshit

>>84191186
Tarkovsky was never one of the biggest directors, most of Russians didn't even know about him, in CCCP people watched either stupid comedies or WW 2 films

>>84191387

You fucking retard, he was very careful with the sound that's why he did not agree with Eisenstein

>>84198686
Interesting use of punctuation.

Is Tarkovsky the most boring "great" director?

tarko/v/sky = the very definition of a hack

>>84198291
okay I laughed

>>84198559
>Source: Your Ass

>"I am only interested in the views of two people: one is called Bresson and one called Bergman."
>PLS GOD NOTICE ME SENPAI

>>84198884
I am Russian, you cyкa блядь

>>84198965
And I suppose you were alive for when Solaris was in theaters, right comrade?

>>84199022
>I suppose you were alive in 2002?
That's a tall order

>>84199022
No, but I know what Soviet films they still show every month on TV and none of them were filmed by him

>>84199110
That isn't a good metric at all, russian tv probably just rotates a bunch of public domain flicks

>>84199449
I think all Soviet films are public domain, for example creator of Tetris didn't earn any money because all brands were owned by state

>>84199535
When can we stop this communism meme?

>>84199671
We already did, Anon

i liked Stalker a lot but found Solaris pretty difficult to get through. stopped me from going further. what order would his films go from most to least accessible?

>>84199535
neither did the inventor of the ak-47

>>84199735
Don't bother, his films are legit worthless

>>84191070
People used to dream in black and white before the prevalence of colour tv

>>84191305

This guy knows what's up. Look into it.

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Who would win in a fight, Tarkovsky or Tartakovsky?

>>84191349
Pleb. He enhances prominent sounds that you would most likely remember and removes all other distracting sounds.

>>84191519
Soviet color film was cold dogshit. It was always grainy, and cheap looking.

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>>84198950
They did actually notice him though.

>>84199735
I thought Solaris was his worst so you should definitely give the others a shot. I think Andrei Rublev is probably the most accessible, but it's really long. Nostalghia or Ivan's Childhood would also be some of the more accessible of his films.

>>84198559
No. Solaris and Stalker aired every other week on Soviet TV.

to be completely 100% honest senpaitachi

while stalker is a technically impressive film and reasonable enough as a story it is only a shit version of the book

Spot the fake movie lovers in this thread. Hint, it's everyone who likes this fucking Russian pos. Michael bay makes better movies than this hack

>>84195272

Is that actually him?

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>>84202137
>Stalker is technically impressive

so many salty /pol/arpers in here

>>84202260
Classic bait post bump

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>>84191039
>Tarkovsky's face when symbols

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>>84191039
Color film is for plebs and globalist shills

The human eye cannot detect more than 30 FPS

I know some people who can't watch black and white movies and I just don't get it. I think people associate black and white and old movies in general with bad picture quality from VHS and poor quality DVDs but bluray versions of these same movies can look crisp as hell. I think black and white looks better than color in some ways (I don't think it's better overall but aspects of it do appeal to me a lot) and it definitely has value and deserves to still be used occasionally. But it only really works with film. Black and white digital looks weird as fuck.

>>84203676
Stop pretending you can tell the difference between film and digital.

>>84203792
I generally don't pay much attention to digital vs film and it doesn't bother me as much as others seeing movies digitally shot but every digitally shot b&w movie I've seen looks weird.

>>84203792
Are you kidding?

>>84193751
>Wish more movies utilized that style
No you don't. It would cheapen it.

>>84195597

Wasn't Metropolis a silent movie? That's pure kino!

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>>84196841

>>84203676
A lot of people can't watch black and white movies.

It's sort of the idea that technology has made old artforms useless. The same people don't read usually. Plebs will be plebs.

>>84191039
Anti-60 fps fags, this is your mindset.

>>84204297
>shorter than a Jap

wew lad

>>84204297
>literally smaller than a nip
wtf i hate tarkovsky now

>>84197636
>implying he could catch AIDS when he lived before Ronald Reagan had the CIA invent it

What kino do I watch of him, I want to stop being a pleb

ok so i have watched stalker, solaris, sacrifice.
what do i watch next if i liked them
solaris>sacrifice>stalker

>>84196841
>Soviet union maltrition prevents people from growing to their proper height
>Laugh and call them a manlet

Feel bad, anon,

>>84193541

What are all those bags of pink fluid littering the hallway?

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>>84196841
>the world's greatest men are always manlets
Really makes you think...

>>84199965
And, what did people not dream at all before TV existed? Only a small percentage of people dream in black and white but it's not because of TV

>>84191519
I can see what he's getting at but a good director/DP can absolutely direct the eye in spite of an abundance of color

>>84191039
is this the guy who made the Stalkers movie where nothing happens for 1 hour and they talk in Polish??*, Russian or some other foreign language about 2deep4u topics? cause if it's him, that's not a person who you should listen to about movies LOL

>>84191571

Dude, subconsciously means it's not noticeable.

You are aware of color. Some loud queen color blocking orange and white comes along and you won't be subconsciously reeling from the faggotry.

>>84191519

>colour is distracting
>irl no one notices colour

This is like proto-tweeting in its inane pretentiousness.

>>84191039
I go outside and I notice at least 10 shades of green from various plants/trees, what the fuck is this guy talking about? did van gogh see everything in black and white? Tarkovsky needed a fat dose of LSD instead on vodka.

What was tarkovsky's deal with symbolism? I mean we humans see in symbols and have used symbolism in our stories for thousands of years. What the fuck made him think that it wasn't relevant? And he still uses symbolism in his films too.

>>84202012
>MWWAAaaaah

>>84207473
Yeah, it's literally impossible not to have symbolism in a film because we communicate in symbols, I think Tarkovsky wanted to downplay that whole aspect because he didn't want to be seen as a director say like Jodorowsky, who puts so much symbolism into his films that it makes them null and meaningless

>>84207639
>Jodorowsky, who puts so much symbolism into his films that it makes them null and meaningless

that is why i like jodorowsky. It's just fucking bullshit. Some people treat him super seriously or hate him because of this but i just find it funny and like watching his films for the creativity of it all.

>>84191349
He said perfect film would have no music

>>84207712
Oh don't get me wrong I like him as well, mainly because he blatantly lies all the time and has no filter, his dvd commentaries are 10/10 it's just 2 hours of him listing all the innovations and inventions he's "created"

>>84192166
>Did he actually die not knowing he was a hack?
This has to be one of the most ruthless statements ever written

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>>84204297
can white directors even compete?

>>84208186
white directors can use toilet paper at least

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>>84208252
>not using water to properly cleanse your bunghole
*shits on you*

>>84198884
it is true - his movies were never popular with the public, but its the creators (writers, artists, other movie makers) noticed his genius.

There's a story when literally half the audience has left the cinema during Stalker premiere due to how boring it was.

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>>84208252
>using toilet paper instead of a pussy phone and a towel

>>84208344
>tickling your asshole multiple times a day

No wonder Europe is so manly and masculine.

>>84207473
It's a fucking retarded statement. Our entire being is made of symbols we use to communicate.

>>84207741
what a fag

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>>84192170
>This cat is DEA

>The Red Desert is the worst of his films after The Cry [Il Grido]. The color ispretentious, quite unlike Antonioni usually, and the editing is subservient tothe idea of color. It could have been a superb film, if only it had been inblack-and-white. If The Red Desert had been in black-and-white, Antonioniwouldn't have got high on pictorial aesthetics, he wouldn't have been soconcerned with the pictorial side of the film, he wouldn't have shot thosebeautiful landscapes, or Monica Vitti's red hair against the mists. He wouldhave been concentrating on the action instead of making pretty pictures. In myview the color has killed the feeling of truth. If you compare The Red Desertto The Night [La Notte] or The Eclipse [L'Eclisse] it's obvious how much lessgood it is. (Tarkovsky 357)

>everyone should conform to my incredibly narrow and ever changing definition of what makes a good film
What did Hackovsky mean by this?

>>84210608
>I have autism and can't understand that film is a visual medium, which is why my movies are literal word for word transcripts of philosophy text.
What did he mean by this?

>>84208186
fuck off twat

>>84204471
>>84204479
to be fair, Kurosawa was very tall compared to most Japs

>>84204788
Start with Stalker
>>84204797
Nostalghia or Andrei Rublev

>>84211944
>helping the plebians

>>84211983
>not misguiding the plens for fun

Inshallah, Brother.

>>84203676
You need to remember that normies don't think of films as human works of art, but rather as entertaining simulation experiences. Most people don't understand the benefits of b&w (the highlighting of contrasts in lighting and form and such) and only see it as a restriction from the way they percieve in the real world. Not to mention how bleak and somber the world really looks without color.

>>84211983
It's the only way to save this board.

>>84212660
It's far too late for that, we need to break this board into /film/, /celeb/ & /tv/ maybe have a /disney/ board for all the capeshit enthusiasts

>>84191039
Been told by older folks and have read that years ago people knew it was a dream since it was black and white.

>>84191519
To be fair, while Eastern europeans had good camera's (there was QC issues) and great Black and white film, their color film was not remotely close to Kodak or Fuji quality. Or even Agfa quality.

>>84212714
What does that urban legend have to do with this thread at all?

>>84212784
What was Stalker filmed on, It looks like it was filmed yesterday

>>84212837
Kodak 5247

>>84212805
Not a urban legend mate

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/3353504/Black-and-white-TV-generation-have-monochrome-dreams.html

>>84191070
He is right, tell me the color of google letters that you see everyday. protip:you can't and you will look

Then how the fuck did he make samurai jack dumbass

>>84214919
Humans don't consciously perceive bumps
>>84215156
>memory=perception

>>84210608
>concentrating on making pretty pictures instead of the action

Isn't this what Tarkovsky himself did?

>>84215536
I think what we learned from this thread is that he was a shit talking hypocrite

>>84214973
>online british tabloid newspaper states a small percentage of elderly people occasionally dream in black and white
ok

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>>84192166
Fucking Hell...

>>84214973
And I dream in 8bit colours pr channel because I grew up with JPG. Kids today dream in 16bit pr channel. Fucking PNG

>>84192166
Brilliant

>>84191039
And this is why russkies, their dissidents and their followers can't have nice things
>I'm talking to you Ayn Rand faggots

>>84216445
I couldn't read this capitalist filth because I can't perceive the colors

>>84191519
so this is where Jaden Smith gets his philosophy from

>>84215742
Go back a half-century, and television’s impact on our closed-eye experiences becomes even clearer. In the 1940s, studies showed that three-quarters of Americans, including college students, reported “rarely” or “never” seeing any color in their dreams. Now, those numbers are reversed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/02/health/02real.html

>>84216516
again, what does this have to do with the thread at all?
>>>>/x/

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>>84216608
well follow the damn fucking thread. It about black and white and it was pointed out that a lot of his generation dreamed in B&W, and someone said that was bullshit.

>>84192328
What was armada laughing at bros?

>>84216717
No, the thread is about Tarkovsky's views and use of colour in film, that's what the thread is about. Then some /x/phile (you) showed up and started talking about his schizo dreams

>>84216865
Nope

First post was
>>84192675
Which is directly to the conversation (and not me)
and >>84199965 (once again, not me)

So please kindly fuck off if you not read the thread and can't make the concept that a director like fucking Tarkovsky and his dreams didn't impact his work.

God I hate summerfags

>>84193280
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_1:_The_Movement_Image

>>84217073
>First post was
>>>84192675
that's a lie you dum dum

>>84218420
First post about dreams anon. and no, it wasn't me. So fuck off.