Why did the dragon care so much about owning gold? Its not like

He was a Jew.

>>84169349
Why do nerds care so much about owning porn? It's not like they could even watch it all.

>>84169349
Why do billionaires care so much about owning gold? Its not like they can even spend it.

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>>84169349
Gold is pretty.

Jordan Peterson

It's a metaphor

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>>84169379
You underestimate me, my friend.

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some birds like to collect shine stones and colorful objects.

some dragons like to collect shiny gold

>>84169349
Why do bird collect shiny objects?

>>84169349
>he doesn't know that dragons are libertarians

cmon OP keep up

>>84169478
Oh I'm not your friend

Gold is taxed differently in Middle Earth- you get taxed on your earnings and not your ownership. Because he already owned all the gold, BAM, no taxes.
Unlike all other property which is taxed according to earnings. This is why most of the trade in Middle Earth is done in non-durable goods such as produce: mushrooms, for example don't have a taxable value so the hobbits scramble to collect as many as possible

>>84169406
Jew here. I think silver looks better tbqh.

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>>84169523
Why are you so rude? Don't you want to be my friend?

>>84169406
>Gold is pretty.
this tbqh
that is similar to magpies who horde shiny stuff, it's pretty.
sometime gold looks edible to me

>>84169349
he wants to fuck everyone else over by not having access to any gold

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>And your other hoard

>>84169488
>>84169503

theres gotta be some biological reason tho

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>>84169349
It's a soft metal you fucking retards. Get it now? OR do I need to spell it out for you inept thinkers, completely incapable of working out problems for yourselves?

>Can't beat the thing
>Can't figure out the Jurassic Park riddle
>always asking what people mean
>can't even work out what the gold is for

>>84169529
Also the eagles stayed away from the fellowship due to insurance purposes. Carrying riders on your back as a flying bird is dangerous and requires high liability insurance.
Only when other valuable commodities were threatened did the eagles intervene, and that was just to protect their insurance premiums from going up. You can't imagine how expensive it is to insure your nest when Nazghul are allowed to pillage the free societies.

>>84169568
The nose knows.

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>>84169550
Silver is nice and clean but lacks the warmth of gold.

>>84169578
I hope you're ESL or drunk or something.

>>84169488
bowerbirds gather that shit to impress female visitors, and go so far as to steal from/sabotage other males
from what we saw i don't think the dragon was after dragon pussy, but who knows

>>84169592
Silver is actually more conductive than gold, so it feels colder to the touch too

>>84169578
Kek

Who says he couldn't spend it?

>>84169529
What about jewels? They had quite a lot of those in the Erebor.
And I am pretty sure once Smaug acquired it, his tax rate must have increased. After he died, a firece battle was fought about the inheritance since he had no relatives and the question whether or not the state should get his fortune.

>>84169568
Many female animals have sexual selection that is influenced by territory, and in some higher cognition animals, like birds and mammals, they can be discerning over resources as well. Therefore the evolutionary pressure for males to collect attractive objects, like those penguins that woo mates with pebbles and whatnot.

There's also the idea that curious animals are more likely to find unique ways to survive, and shiny objects attract curious animals like crows.

>>84169349
why do you care so much about girls if you'll never date one

>>84169761
WHY DO YOU X IF YOU'LL Y

>>84169681
Nixon.

>>84169578
are you saying his weight mashed all the gold together in a gigantic dragon bed?

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>>84169349
He just wanted to do the Scrooge McDuck dive

>>84169861
Fuck off retard

>>84169349
>aaking questions every child who read the book by 10 could tell you the answer to

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Dragon's have a long history of being metaphorical embodiments of greed in fantasy, but then again maybe he just needed it for tax purposes for his eagle taxi business

dragons absorb gold and jewels into their skin, providing them with a layer of impenetrable armor. the process takes centuries so they have to gather a mountain of gold and sleep in it.

>>84169975

Is that absorption tax exempt?

>>84169439
jej

>>84169464
>>84169439
kino

Gold is probably a more refined version of Iron Pyrite, and not that valuable really. It's a big scam, like almost everything else in this world.

>>84169744
Wow, so that bird is thinking about women by doing this. That is a bit too close for comfort.

>>84170010
Yes, as Erebor was a sovereign territory, Smaug could dictate his own tax rate.

>(((Smaug)))

>>84169523
glad to see we haven't yet figured out what a joke is, maybe you should get off your fucking high horse and not be so stubbornly bitter

>>84170010
it's prorated and factors in inflation

>>84170303
This kind of attitude is exactly why we can't be friends

>>84169349
why is he so smaug bros?

>>84169523
I'm not your buddy, guy

>>84169349
When one thinks of a dragon piling up treasure and using it
as a bed, it’s easy to accuse the creature of greed. After all,
what good is all that wealth doing anyone?
Some sages equate a dragon’s desire to amass treasure
with the behavior of jackdaws, pack rats, and other creatures
that instinctively hoard bright, shiny objects. This observa-
tion is not without merit, because no dragon seems entirely
able to explain why it wants to hoard treasure. Unlike a jack-
daw or a pack rat, however, a dragon craves items of mone-
tary value, not just shiny objects. Dragons are well aware of
the value of their possessions. When faced with a selection
of treasure, even the most virtuous dragon would like to
take it all. If it has to choose, the dragon tends to favor the
most valuable items. Dragons show a preference for items
with intrinsic monetary value over items that are valuable
because of their magic.
The sheer, primal joy a dragon derives from its hoard is
nearly indescribable. In unguarded moments, a dragon will
roll in a pile of treasure like a pig wallowing in the mud on
a hot day, and the dragon seems to derive a similar degree of
physical pleasure from the action.

>>84170381
A dragon also derives immense intellectual satisfaction from
its hoard. It keeps an accurate mental inventory of the items in
it, and a running total of the hoard’s total monetary value.
The draconic preoccupation with treasure doubtless has an
instinctive element that may never be fully explained, but
treasure hoarding among dragons has some practical benefits.
First, having a valuable treasure at hand gives the dragon
some control over the circumstances of its own death (see Avoiding the Twilight, page 15). Dragons that lose their hoards often suffer so much emotional trauma that their
spirits become restless even after death (see Ghostly Dragon,
page 161).
Second, and more important, dragons derive status
among their own kind from the richness of their hoards.
Though the primary measure of status among dragons is
age, the value of a dragon’s hoard is what determines the rel-
ative status of dragons of the same age (when comparing
hoard values, dragons consider magic items to be worth
one-half their market value). A particularly large hoard can
place a younger dragon on equal terms with an older dragon;
a small one can demote it to an even lower status than its age
alone would indicate.

>>84170403
Dragons with higher status have better access to mates.
They have more influence among other dragons, and are
more likely to be asked to render assistance or advice. This
in turn increases their status even more.
Dragons tend to boast about the value of their hoards
among their own kind, which is understandable, since a
dragon cannot derive any status from its hoard unless other
dragons know about it. Such boasting is not without peril,
however, particularly among chromatic dragons, since evil
dragons are not above stealing treasure from each other.
Among older dragons, treasure hoarding has an addi-
tional practical dimension. As a dragon ages, its magical
aptitude gets greater, and the dragon becomes better able to
employ the magic items in its hoard to its advantage.

>>84170381
Are dragons aurophiles?

>>84169894
youtube.com/watch?v=viDL2W0HcJw

>>84169961
Basically this. In Old English literature dragons have a weird innate obsession with material wealth. They're basically just big, angry metaphors.

>>84170430
I wonder if there's a way to make that work. Maybe some sort of indoor skydiving set up?

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>>84170381
>>84170403
>>84170423
this is the sort of autism that can only come from dnd 3.5

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>>84170498
Draconomicon you fag frog poster

>>84170498
He didn't even get to the part where they turn into things like hills and glades based on their net worth. The thing that bothered me the most about books like that was that there's someone who would find the information in that book worthwhile and inflict it on their group

>>84170616
Pretty sure that's a book title that's been used in at least a few editions, but there was definitely a 3.5 (or at least 3.0) one

>>84169349
>dragon
It's a wyvern, retards. Dragons have six limbs, Wyverns have four.

>>84169349
Why didn't (((Sauroman))) ever audit Smaug's hoard?

>>84170728
That's pretty fucked up to make fun of his birth defect like that you filthy ableist

>>84170366
I'm not your guy, friend.

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>>84169379
try me

Dragons don't actually care about gold.
But women do.
So they acquire gold to get mad pussy.

He didn't seem to give much of a fuck about the treasure either. He didn't even know where the Arkenstone was.

>>84170423
>Dragons with higher status have better access to mates. They have more influence among other dragons, and are more likely to be asked to render assistance or advice.
wtf dragons can talk?

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i know in some literary universes the more gold a dragon hoards the stronger it becomes in a physical, literal sense and it isn't just an emotional or pride thing, could be the case for LOTR dragons

>>84172157

Laying in the gold and gems caused them to lodge in his (normally) tender under-belly, effectively armoring his weak point. So, yeah, he did get more powerful by having all that dosh.

>>84172238
That's the explanation I've read too, can't remmeber from where though.

>>84169975
Then hackson came and fucked this idea

>>84170073
What you mean scam? Its the people desire that gives it the value

>>84169523
Don't worry, no charge for me

>>84172238
Not acording to Hackson
No jewel on that belly, just his lwn skin

>>84169349

SHINY

Why do the jews care so much about owning gold that they will never spend in their lifetime?

Dragons are Jews israel that bombs the Muslim dwarves refugees who ruin the shire with their rude behavior

>>84172579
Because they are tribal and care about the success of their bloodline and great grandchildren. And not just their blood, but their race. They are literally nazis without a nationality.

>>84170430
>>84170468
Could it be done with dollar bills?

Newly-printed ones, mind you. I don't want 50 kinds of diseases from playing around in something with that much bacteria.

>>84169349
Dragons grow larger along with their hoard, need an example? Just look how fucking big Smaug is.

>>84169578
>>>84169349 (OP)
>It's a soft metal you fucking retards. Get it now? OR do I need to spell it out for you inept thinkers, completely incapable of working out problems for yourselves?
>>Can't beat the thing
>>Can't figure out the Jurassic Park riddle
>>always asking what people mean
>>can't even work out what the gold is for
What

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>>84169578
The dragons are greedy by nature you retard. Stop acting like it's some cosmic mystery that only some smug faggot with a hoard of anime reaction pics can solve.

Why did the anon care so much about movies? It's not like he could watch them all

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Dragons eat the gold, obviously.

>>84169349
Tolkien explained that dragons have in the Hobbit, you would know this if you would have taken the time to read it (really good book)

> Dragons steal gold and jewels, you know, from men and elves and dwarves, wherever they can find them; and they guard their plunder as long as they live (which is practically forever, unless they are killed), and never enjoy a brass ring of it. Indeed they hardly know a good bit of work from a bag, though they usually have a good notion of the current market value; and they can't make a thing for themselves, not even mend a little loose scale of their armour. ... There was a most specially greedy, strong and wicked worm called Smaug."

>>84176834
>>84169349
Also, and this shows Bilbo's extremely well education; there is a good explanation on why Bilbo talked to Smaug the way he did:

> This of course is the way to talk to dragons, if you don't want to reveal your proper name (which is wise), and don't want to infuriate them by a flat refusal (which is also very wise). No dragon can resist the fascination of riddling talk and of wasting time to trying to understand it.

>>84169349
it's just a stupid movie for kids.

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They need lots of gold to swim through so they can feel each piece rub against their scales. The rubbing sensation feels like nuzzling with a female dragon. Since dragons are so rare and females are killed by humans more than males, the leftover males find themselves living long lives without a partner and they have to simulate companionship like a lonely beta hugging themselves. That's why Smaug called it the Lonely Mountain.

>>84176924
How can an epic finance story be for kids?

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post cozy dragons

>>84170081
He isn't thinking about why he does what he does. He likes what he does because that is what he was programmed to do, and he was programmed to do that because it's ancestors survived and reproduced by doing just that. But the bird has no idea. He just happens to like shiny things. And shiny things just happen to attract females. And he just happens to like females, too. And stuff just happens to work out in the end, even though most livings things don't have any plan or any understanding of gene theory or natural selection.

It's beautiful in it's own way.

>>84169529
wow, I never realized so much of the tropes and lore of medieval fantasy was based on actual material conditions of the middle ages and its affect on history

of course a feudal lord wants to procure taxes, but the peasants can exchange things in secret and do things under the table, so much of medieval society and their shenanigans revolved around tax policy

>>84177711
>It's beautiful in it's own way.

Like that full house of lucky numerals. Congratulations.

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>>84177684
Glaurung's cozy, wouldn't you agree? Time for a really stupid and ill-conceived picture of him. With a stache.

>>84170728
Literally fuck yourself.

>>84172270
The Hobbit.

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>>84177684

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>>84177892
hmmmm

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>>84170381
>When one thinks of a dragon piling up treasure and using it as a bed, it’s easy to accuse the creature of greed

He's certainly no worse than dwarves. Grasping little shits.

>>84178162
Shenlong, Bronze, Worship, Sagacity

I'll just fly my worshipers around the earth like a taxi and earn their respect

OR

Behemoth, Skeletal, Maidens, Terror

In a few legends, the dragons eat the gold, smelt it internally, and use it to armor themselves.

>>84178162
Red Dragon - most A E S T H E T I C
Worship + Sagacity = GOAT combo

Gold is the comfiest thing a dragon can sleep on.

>>84178162
Black drake
The most tactical dragon

>>84169349
He had the same affliction for gold that everyone else had for the ring
How can you not see that

>>84178162
Wyrm, Black, Maiden, Terror.

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>>84178162
>white is ice

>>84169349

Supposedly Dragons are supposed to be ebodiment of some sins like gluttony, lust, muderous rage, and in this case greed.

>>84179202
gold is also an easy plot device for a happy ending

>>84178162
Dragon, white, maidens, sagacity.

I'll just hang out near the poles and up in high mountain ranges.

>>84179031
I don't understand these choices at all. No breathe and no flight?

>>84169349
That's just what dragons do, man. Why do humans hoard gold and never spend it? Smaug is a sentient being, too. Not really anymore far-fetched than the existence of a skyscraper-sized sentient flying lizard to begin with.

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>>84169373
>Greedy
>Manipulative
>Smug
>Illegal occupation of once foreign land while deporting its original occupants
>Firebombs innocent civilians

What did he mean by this?

Dragons are essentially giant chickens, right? Will chickens like swallowing stones to help digest their food and to give their eggs more roughage.

Alternatively they could be more like bowerbirds in their obsession with all things blue. Fuck bitches, make money.

>>84179138
Is White Fatalis the greatest Western-shaped Elder Dragon in the entire Monster Hunter franchise?

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>>84179783
all the fatalis are good

rust daora is also bretty gud

What would be the benefit of being a wyrm over a dragon that could fly? Is it just their sturdiness?

Are they typically depicted with front "arms" but no legs, as well as small vestigial wings? This thread has got me interested in them.

>>84178162
Black, behemoth, maidens, terror

>>84172238
Tender underbelly is the most retarded part of dragons. A dragons physique, mainly the fact that its a flying creature and that their enemies would most likely be below or in front of them, means a soft underbelly is a massive evolutionary disadvantage.

>>84180070
They normally arent depicted with wings at all. Most mythical beast lores seem to regard them as a species related to dragons, but underground dwelling diggers instead of flying creatures.

How did he learn English? Did he go to dragon school?

All f the most powerful magical artifacts in Middle Earth were made of precious metals and gemstones. Morgoth nstilled them with greed as a way to make them dual-purpose: engines of destruction and natural artifact collectors.

>>84179031
white maiden purity belongs to black wyrms

>>84169349
https://youtu.be/93lrosBEW-Q

>>84180070
Not needing to fly would allow the wyrm to be larger, and presumably stronger than any competing apex predator within its territory. If a dragon was stealing his lunch by getting to it first he could set up an ambush or track down its nest - eat that dragon instead.

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>>84180070
Think about the sturdiness of flightless birds compared to flying ones. They are much more muscular and heavy pound-for-pound.

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>>84178162
>Brainlets picking anything but terror
You know fear is the strongest way to control people right? Machiavel and Hobbes talked about this all the time and you cucks wish to be respected bh your sagacity or whatever instead of picking the confiest and safest route

>>84181148
Or you could be the best of both worlds and choose a behemoth as your true form, but also be wise. So you are a great wise man in your human form but can also chimp out and destroy an entire city as a dragon if people dare challenge your rule.

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>>84169349
>ctrl + f fafnir
>0 results

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>>84176492
>>84176588
Work it out. I'm greedy but that doesn't mean I collect rocks your retards, those are useless.

>>84181046
THICC

>>84178162
black behemoth worship majesty. anyone in my way is getting BLACKED

>>84179031
You just fucking had to cuckpost, didn't you?

>>84170798
Is that supposed to be a lot?

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Better dragon

>>84169529
don't you have a book to finish, Martin?

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best draogn

>>84182503
Jej

>>84170381
>>84170423
Too poorly written to be Tolkien. Where is this from?

>>84170468
Its made clear in the comics that its a special ability only Scrooge has.

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>>84182534
>you will never be best bros with a dragon that turns into a flying mini Godzilla when you're threatened

He was going to start a bank

>>84169398
To create dynasties. It gives your heirs protection and power. It's the thinking mans ambition.

>>84170798
how much of that is BLACKED?

>>84183501
>It's the Jewish mans ambition
FTFY

>>84172552

Don't you remember a scene from the second movie where Smaug flies over d0rfs and a coin drops off him?

he was saving up for a dragon fleshlight

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>>84177684