Any films where people are arrested for crimes other people commit?

so are the fags who make stupid little bitch threads like these from 9 gag or reddit? i dont know exactly

she is so beautiful

>>84151133
The movie you're looking for is The Crucible (1996).
I mean it has everything you asked for including a literal witch hunt. Highly recommended.

>>84151133
What did Cara did this time?

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This was a very weird case to follow. Media seemed torn on whether to go hard with the coverage or not.

This is probably not what they had in mind by 'female empowerment'.

>>84151133
can somebody who defends this piece of shit please explain their rationale?

>>84151348
Op here wasn't expecting this it looks pretty gooed thanks.

The Hunt

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So called "cyber bullying" is retarded. "Cyber murder" is just laughable.

>>84151409
Betas deserve to DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>>84151409
He was going to kill himself anyway.

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>>84151409
She didn't kill anyone and therefore doesn't deserve 20 years for murder, your outrage and bitch boy feeling shouldn't even come into it.

The judge is clearly drunk, using a the George Bowen case from 1816 as a basis.

>>84151133
>that hairline

wtf

>>84151133
suicide is not a crime if we go by us law

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>>84151562
tfw no balding genocidal gf

>>84151409
1st Amendment.

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>>84151133

>>84151409
>After learning that he was planning to kill himself she repeatedly discouraged him from committing suicide in 2012 and 2014 and encouraged him to "get professional help".

>However, her attitude changed in July 2014, when she started thinking that it would be a "good thing to help him die" . According to psychiatrist Peter Breggin, she became delusional because of changing her antidepressant medication from Prozac which she took from the age of 14 to Celexa a few months prior.

>Roy was also taking Celexa and his mental health records had also been requested.

> In the United States, citalopram (celexa) carries a boxed warning stating it may increase suicidal thinking and behavior in those under age 24

>>84151536
so youre crying for some dumb whore?
20 years for murder is light
nigger with a pound of weed is going away for longer

>>84151133
>>84151536
I don't get it, why is /tv/ defending her? Is it because she looks like an ugly caveman like Cara and is therefore /our girl/?

If she looked like a typical Stacey you guys would be celebrating her getting BTFO.

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so what is the split on this in terms of public consensus? 50/50 on whether or not she should get time? personally, i think she's a cunt, but if you're mentally weak enough to get fucking COAXED into offing yourself i feel it still wouldn't be the other person's fault unless they pulled the trigger

>>84151657
It's because she was a beta's girlfriend. She gives us hope

>>84151133
The Lavender Hill Mob
>>84151179
Iirc some of them are from r/the_Donald at least.

>>84151652
>In the United States, citalopram (celexa) carries a boxed warning stating it may increase suicidal thinking and behavior in those under age 24

Literally all antidepressants come with a warning that they may do this.

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>>84151657
No I will always defend those against unjust laws.

>>84151652
her opt out was to extricate herself from the sitation at that point, not devote herself to convincing him to kill himself

>>84151348
Shit, I remember that. Winona Ryder and Daniel Day-Lewis, right? Underrated film, unconventional court room thriller.

>>84151588
It is a crime by US law actually. However she didn't commit suicide and as such did nothing illegal. If he killed himself in a public area she could get a fine though.

>>84151657
/tv/ is in an constant state of juggling its hate for women/queers/minorities/betas/sjws and a whole host of other strangely specific individuals.

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>>84151133
Yfw a drink driver who kills someone will get like 2 years but an underage girl on antidepressants gets 20 years for mean comments.

>>84151786
>>84151348
are you guys americans? we watched this in my high school lit class in california

>>84151657
It is pretty simple. Because she did no wrong at all.

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>>84151133
>>84151133
So if I see a robbery and don't report it can I get put in jail for robbery now?

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>>84151832
Was actually about to post this, but with this image instead.

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>all these whiteknight beta orbiters ITT

Holy shit, what the fuck happened to this place

>>84151863
My wife studied English and this was on the curriculum. Thoroughly enjoyable and well made.

>>84151917
>t. Roastie

Gtfo ya VD cesspool

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>>84151133
she deserves to be put behind bars

fukkin roastie cunt

>>84151657

because this is the kind of shit that happens in europe, not america. judge needs to be "removed" asap. he is not a tin pot dictator and america is not his banana republic. we are the greatest nation to have ever existed because for the most part we have stopped despots like him from playing god.

>>84151536
This, end of story. If she does actually do time, it won't be much.

>>84151133
Symetria, Polish movie, probably you can find it ez with english subs

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>>84151965
>>84152019
>>84151179
>>84151223
>>84151400


Why are you so desperately trying to turn this into a feminist thing?
I'm arguing on the basis or logic and reason.
Shooting someone with a gun and sending someone a text are now considered the same does that seem right to you?

>>84151409
Betas who commit suicide over or around their relationships are pathetic. A 17 year old girl is an emotional ball of overreaction, not a criminal

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>>84151794
im not a US Citizen but i think you are wrong in both case, suicide is a humans free choice, but she assisted and thats a crime

>>84151409
She's a piece of shit but she shouldn't be on the hook for his death. He was already suicidal before he met her and would have killed himself had he never met her. Encouraging someone to kill themselves is not a crime and all the action falls back to him. He was an adult and by legal definitions sane.

She looks good at this weight. Damn, jail made her look hot. Like a less annoying Cara Dervaignweald whatever

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>>84151133
Op here getting some good movie suggestions.
This became a good thread.

>>84152048
Bingo. I don't really care about the girl or the guy but fuck that judge. That conviction is insanity.

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>>84152165
It's the law that needs to change.
Look at old Uncle Sam forcing people to live their terrible lives.

>>84152165
Good thing this wasn't assisted suicide then because he was an able bodied person who did it himself.

>>84152130
She did more than fucking that and you know it. Do your research first before you try to white knight a fucking scumbag piece of shit.

>>84152320
>She did more than fucking that
No, she just sent texts.
And he's right, this has nothing to do with feminism so get off your bogeyman.

>>84152320
She did but what they're trying to convict her with is still overreaching.

>>84152320
>BUT MUH PHONECALL

Kill yourself you pathetic sjw there's a button to hang up at any point in fact I bet he was calling her.

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>>84151133
He was destined to be the next Elliot Rodgers she did the world a favour, who knows how many lives she saved.

Butterfly effect baby.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement

>>84152130
>Shooting someone with a gun and sending someone a text are now considered the same
No they're not. Both are only illegal in certain circumstances.

>>84152373
>white knight detected

She's a vindictive, manipulative, sociopath and got what she deserved. End of discussion. No matter how much you defend her, it doesn't change the fact she drove someone to suicide with mental abuse and didn't do her duty as an ethical human being and report the guys intentions to his family or authorities.

>>84152424
>there's a button to hang up
That doesn't matter. You seem to think she was bullying him. He actually trusted her and thought what she was telling him was in his best interest.

>>84152489
No one is arguing that she doesn't have some culpability here. The argument is that it's an extremely harsh conviction.

>>84152423
>>84152424

Keep orbiting fellas

>>84152313
well she assisted psychologically, you dont have to be non-ablebodied for assistance
>Assisted suicide is suicide committed with the aid of another person, sometimes a physician.[1] The term is often used interchangeably with physician-assisted suicide (PAS), which involves a doctor knowingly and intentionally >>providing a person with the knowledge or means or both required to commit suicide<< including counseling about lethal doses of drugs, prescribing such lethal doses or supplying the drugs.
she actively searched the internet and provide him infromation how he can do it, also her silence is also a way of assiting in his suicide

>>84152556
Just so there isn't any confusion, it's important to note that she's not serving any time yet. Her case is of course being appealed and in all likelihood she'll end up serving a very light sentence.

>some low test numale beta offs himself
>they charge some random stranger with murder

nice """"""""legal"""""""""""""" system amerifats

>>84152489
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement
suicide is not a crime

>>84152605
Christ almighty, /r9k/, we don't give a fuck about white knighting. It's an interesting case to discuss.

Both of the people involved seem like pieces of shit, desu famalamajama

>>84152639
>also her silence is also a way of assiting in his suicide
That's putting an excess amount of responsibility on her for his life. Nobody is arguing that she is guiltless, but her punishment was too harsh for the ambiguous crime she committed.

>>84152729
Indeed. That's why I'm interested to see where this goes. This is a potentially major precedent to set.

The ONLY reasons why anyone would defend her are:
-white knights
- girls dont want other girls to deal with consequences
- /tv/ and /pol/ identify with her b/c they do the same thing she did ((((kys)))) posted all the time - see no one wants to think theyre the bad guy so they will rationalize their actions

>>84152686
Read up on this case turns out they arrested some homeless people in 1999 for accidentally starting a fire that some firefighters later died in and they actually using this as a legal basis for this case Americans are crazy.

>>84152782
Speaking of precedent, I am curious as to how this happened considering that previous cases either never went anywhere or were about actual bullying so the bullies got in trouble for that rather than any manslaughter cases.

>>84152833
Can't wait for this guy to get arrested for something he says online later.

>>84152833
Retard. We're not defending her. The argument is whether or not the conviction is too harsh. I personally think it is.

Sticks and stones..

>>84152556
>didn't do her duty as an ethical human being and report the guys intentions to his family or authorities.


By that logic we should lock up the friends and family of all Muslim terrorists. I think this is a great idea

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>>84151653
>>84151657

if she's guilty for involuntary manslaughter for telling him to kill himself, the entire 4chan will be guilty if some faggot decides to an hero, and then the authorities pull up all the "KYS FAGGOT" posts on this site.

you retarded children need to realize that when somebody gets railroaded by the state, instead of cheering, you should stop and think that your ass might be next.

>>84152945
>we
anyways, i also think its too harsh but it also shouldnt be oh lets just give her 1 yr community service, good nuff

>>84151133
Dancer in the Dark

>>84152833
>>84152320
>>84151822
>>84151714
t. reddit

>>84153041
> the entire 4chan will be guilty if some faggot decides to an hero
Nope, that particular faggot has no reason to trust anonymous people on 4chan. In this case the guy knew the girl personally and he thought she had his best interests in mind.

>>84152729
Thats true and i dont defend the judge, 20 years is insane

>>84153097
reddit is better than 4chan for discussion and if you disagree youre an autistic child who engages in internet wars

>>84153142
>In this case the guy knew the girl personally and he thought she had his best interests in mind.
He wasn't a delusional child, he was a legally sane adult who had been suicidal before he met her.

I'm surprised she got such a harsh sentence considering this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Drew that actually featured adult(s) screwing with a child.

>>84153067
I'd say a year or two is reasonable.

>>84151133
I don't know what it is, but I really want to have sex with this girl before she gets locked up.

>>84152639
she didnt assist, she goaded him into it. those are very distinct

>>84153255
>reddit is better
t. oceania

>>84151459
>The Hunt
came 2 post this

>>84152888
context. she was his primary contact and in a position of trust and power over him as opposed to random internet bullies

>>84153142

where is the precedent that the victim needs to be personally familiar with the defendant for it to be involuntary manslaughter? So far, all I see is that if your words make the person kill themselves, you're guilty. Whether he should have listened or not, is not relevant - the fact the he did listen and believed it is enough.

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/ourgirl/

>>84152945
>We're not defending her
Some people seem to be actually defending her.

>>84153067
>>84153265
But yeah 20 years is definitely crazy. Maybe a few months jail and a shitload of community service would be more reasonable.

>>84153257
What that woman did was way worse than the girl in this case.

>>84152945
this fear is what the British get for never abolishing their monarchy. freedom of speech is a guiding american principal that we dont have to worry about

>>84153300
i dont even know what that meme means. hello 12 year old who engages in internet wars

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>>84153142
>he thought she had his best interests in mind.


So he's a retard therefore she's guilty of murder?

>>84151133
Is thsi Kristen Stewart in the biopic of Cara Delavigne?

She looks like Bride of Chucky. Go damn, anal looking into that rotten mug would make me go off like a garden hose. Her telling me to kill myself the whole time with that rat salad hairdo. Bliss.

Our generation's OJ Simpson.

>>84153386
t. big brother

>>84153402
If someone tells a literal retard to do harm to themself and they do it then yes that person is responsible.

>>84153320
She was not in any position of power, they were both stupid kids. She may have been his primary contact for his suicide talk but we don't know much more than that.

The Meier suicide case also involved actual irl bullying that included an actual adult bullying a child. That is a lot worse than this.

>>84153353
LISTEN UP AMERICA!
HURTING SOMEONE'S FEELINGS IS NOW A CRIME!
FOLLOW THE LAW OR PAY THE PRICE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJRxkAOIv9E&t=1s

>>84152691
Pretty sure it actually is illegal in America

>>84153327
>where is the precedent
There doesn't need to be one.

>if your words make the person kill themselves, you're guilty
If they're impressionable and you know that then yes you know what you're doing and you're guilty.

>>84153491
Thank you for proving you don't know the details of the case. She didn't hurt his feelings, she persuaded him that suicide was the only escape for him.

>>84153041
Oh this is rich. So you're scared now because you're edgy personal on a Malaysian image board might actually carry repercussions to the way you act towards others.

Really gets the pecans nutting.

>>84151536
>She didn't kill anyone
Nor did Charles Manson...

>>84153513
Except that we're talk about a court case so yes, precedence matters.

And whether or not she knew he was impressionable is irrelevant. She encouraged him to get professional help and not to kill himself at some point and that clearly didn't help, guess he wasn't impressionable enough.

>>84153255
>>84153449
t. reddit

>>84153491
SAY IT WITH ME
LAND OF THE FREE

>>84153595
yeah no shit you fucking dummy i just said reddit is better obviously i use it

>>84151179
>he doesn't know about /tv/eddit

KEK'ing @ ur life rn

>>84153506
>>84152165

>>84153583
>Except that we're talk about a court case so yes, precedence matters.
Precedents have to start somewhere.

In America they can give you sentences exceeding your life expectancy tenfold. What the fuck is this shit.

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She was qter as a fatty.

Would let bully me/10

>>84153433
of whom? what the fuck are you talking about nigger

>>84153667
See the Megan Meier suicide case though. There were precedents before that didn't result in this type of conviction even with worse scenarios than this. Granted, she likely won't end up serving the real sentence but that shouldn't matter.

>>84153705
dude, look at her head, thats prime fetal alcohol syndrom

>>84153690
Crimes carry their own sentence. When you are convicted of multiple crimes then you get multiple sentences.

If i killed you and got 25 to life, then killed 3 other people and were also unanimously convicted of those murders as well I would get 25 to life X4. so 100 years to quad life sentence. Thats no chance of parole.

This is for all crimes, its up to a judges discretion what your sentence is.

are you getting it now?

>>84153785
>See the Megan Meier suicide case though.
Honestly that's way worse and the woman deserved way worse than whatever this girl gets. But letting a worse piece of shit off doesn't really justify letting off a lesser piece of shit.

>>84153491
Isn't this the one with the shotguns?

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What if she genuinely believed that killing himself was the best option for himself?

How does this square with euthanasia advocates?

>>84153454
how can you deny how inextricably linked they were during the process? its true he had tried to kill himself before and exhausted her with his obsession about suicide, and she was probably becoming numb to the speak. but when she spent days/weeks egging him on instead of severing ties, and then personally convinced him to kill himself as per the texts, she is culpable to some degree. im not sure if it warrants jail time, but the girl definitely didnt behave appropriately

>>84153513
>There doesn't need to be one.
res judicata motherfucker. Unless something has been specifically decided it is up for interpretation. So unless the judge in his decision said that the qualifying reason for her guilt was her close personal friendship with the victim, the next court might fight a stranger guilty of telling another stranger to go kill themselves.

>>84153513
>If they're impressionable and you know that then yes you know what you're doing and you're guilty.

so what, I now have to exercise my skills as an amrchair psychologist to determine how tender your sensitive ass is before I tell you to fuck off an kys? Ridiculous. Oh right, I guess I have the option to always be nice and polite, lest I get thrown in prison for 20 years. HOORAY FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION

>>84153905
>burning in hell is a good option

>>84151652
The medication jew strikes again

>>84153568
Fucking killyourself you edgy memeing faggot.

haha jk, please seek professional help

then kill yourself

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So /tv/ has become full on /pol/ now, the only difference is that OP puts "Any films about" and put whatever recent event.

mods pls

>>84153866
>But letting a worse piece of shit off doesn't really justify letting off a lesser piece of shit.
She shouldn't be let off, some punishment is necessary (and ideally she'd be put on some kind of offender list so she can't work or be around vulnerable people) but the charges she got were too harsh, legally speaking, for what she actually did.

>>84151133
>Girl manipulates guy into killing himself intentionally, clear pre-meditation and tells him to do it again after he pussies out
>MUH FREEDUMB OF SPEEK, HE DESERVED IT, GAY KEK
>Guy manipulates girl into killing herself intentionally, clear pre-meditation and tells her to do it again after she pussies out
>REEEE EVIL MISOGYNIST, SHE WAS MENTALLY ILL AND HE BASICALLY RAPED HER WITH TEXTS, REEEE PUT HIM IN THE ELECTRIC CHAIR

Stupid bitch should be shot, but the "misogynists" on r/4chan are too busy white knighting about her. I guarantee though, with the genders reversed, they'd call for the guy to be executed.

>>84153907
Please point out where I said her actions weren't linked to his. I also never said she was innocent or a good person in any way, but she was not in a position of power over him.

What I am saying is that I don't think she is fully responsible for his death and that manslaughter is too severe for her actual "crime" (which is, in itself, legally ambiguous).

>>84153905
She did help him find one of the better suicide methods, I'll give her that.

Most euthanasia is relating to people with incurable disease though. It could be argued that she encouraged him to get help and since it didn't help then suicide was his only option (related, I think someone in the Netherlands or something was able to request euthanasia based on mental illness). I doubt any euthanasia advocates wanted to touch this case though.

>>84153579
White knight migrants from r/feminism will ignore this.

>>84154116
If they are misogynists, then why are they defending her?

>>84154193
They're not, that's my point. The outside consensus is that 4chan is "misogynist," but this thread is proof that the fags on here are just as gynocentric and pro-women as everyone else. I was just pointing that out.

>>84154005
Yeah but have you ever tried to actually discuss this kind of stuff on /pol/? That board is filled with dummies.

>>84153915
>now have to exercise my skills as an amrchair psychologist to determine how tender your sensitive ass is before I tell you to fuck off an kys?
Of course not. But if someone you know tells you they are filling their car with carbon monoxide to suffocate himself and you persuade him it's a good idea then yes you are culpable. A flippant "kys" isn't even comparable.

>freedom of speech and expression
Not really relevant. That's got more to do with expressing your political opinions without the party in power throwing you in jail.

>>84154116
>implying I care if roasties die

>>84154264
>A flippant "kys" isn't even comparable.

that's your opinion, not the court's.

>>84154264
>That's got more to do with expressing your political opinions without the party in power throwing you in jail.

again, that's your opinion

you're literally making shit up as you go along without paying any deference to the way US legal system works

>>84154177
Read the thread, retard. No one is defending her and saying she's completely innocent.

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I have literally no idea who this is.

>>84154461
Thanks for coming into the thread to let us know. Quality contribution, anon. Glad you're here.

>>84153705
WHAT THE FUCK is up with that hairline, jesus christ.

>>84154374
>that's your opinion, not the court's.
>again, that's your opinion
No shit it's my opinion, whose opinion did you think I was giving?

My point was that this was his girlfriend giving arguments in favor of suicide, not some stranger or someone he barely knows.

Also, saying something that causes direct physical harm or danger doesn't count as freedom of speech.

Everyone in this thread should kill themselves.

>>84151133
She looks like that ugly eyebrow cavewoman Cara, so I'm glad she's going to jail just for that alone.

>>84154595
Enjoy your manslaughter charges.

>>84154595
Nice try, Anon, but I backtraced it. You'll be hearing from my lawyers pretty soon. ;)

>Any films where people are arrested for crimes other people commit?
The Prestige
Oh wait i just spoiled the movie for you.

>>84154491
You mad, bro?

>>84154580
>Also, saying something that causes direct physical harm or danger doesn't count as freedom of speech.

But it was his choice

She didn't trick him into drinking bleach by telling him it was water, she didn't threaten to kill his family if he didn't kill himself. She just repeatedly encouraged him to kill himself in good faith, he was the only one that could've made the final call.

She's a dumb and probably evil bitch but what she did shouldn't be a crime.

>>84154260
>/pol/ shits up their own board by letting in Redditfugees by the boatload
"oh no our board sucks now we can't discuss anything"
>/pol/ proceeds to shit up other boards with their /r/the_donlel faggots in tow
FINDS
A
WAY

>>84154623
aw man how was that jessie slaughter thing back when it was happening on this site? way before my time here. mustve been fukn hilarious

>>84154580
>No shit it's my opinion, whose opinion did you think I was giving?

I thought we were interpreting the case and talking about its legal repercussions. My bad. Please continue with your baseless opinions.

>>84151133
>defending some ugly sociopath guilty of manslaughter on a chinese cartoon forum in the hopes that she'll fuck you one day
pathetic

>>84154697
>She's a dumb and probably evil bitch but what she did shouldn't be a crime.
This is a good summary for the people who keep claiming everyone ITT is "defending" her.

And for a related movie recommendation: 10 Rillington Place

>>84154697
>convincing a mentally ill person to commit suicide shouldn't be a crime
kill yourself

>>84154697
>Know someone's schizophrenic
>Tell them if they kill someone, themself or others, the voices will go away
>They do it
>"hurrrrrr i dindu nuffin im a good boy :)"

Yeah okay.

Goddamn, shes an ugly little cunt face

>>84154818

The difference is that killing others is a crime, killing yourself isn't

And there's no indication he had diminished capacity

>>84154818
>>84154813
Being depressed is not the same as being legally mentally ill or schizophrenic or anything else you're trying to use as an example. He was a legally sane adult when he killed himself.

>>84154890
>having second thoughts
>the person you trust most convinces you to go through with it
>that person should have no legal repercussions
i bet you're the type of person to get off on your wife being fucked by some black guy, huh

>>84154740
I honestly got real scared. Told my mom that we should change our ISP. She asked why and I started mumbling some bullshit reasons so she asked me straight up if I did anything wrong, and I pretended to get mad about internet speed being too slow for my WoW. Anyway, we didn't change the provider, and I was worried for about a week. Now I do everything behind 7 proxies

>>84151409
she didn't violate anyone's rights

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>>84151133
I hope this roastie gets the book thrown at her. RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>84154116
nah its bascially 2 camps of people.

1. people who can relate to the victim and are horrified by what the girl did

2. people who identify with the victim and hate themselves so they lash out at him calling him a "beta" because they're trying to suppress their own weaknesses by being callous.

Don't act like you haven't been depressed if you're posting of 4chan ffs.

>>84155022
you wouldn't violate anyone's rights by doing drugs but you would still be punished by the law, moron

>>84155062
I hope not
she seems like a sweet girl with her own issues and got caught up with a mental case.

>>84155062
I hope she could get the death penalty

>>84154697
>But it was his choice
But she convinced him to make that choice.

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>>84155093
are you fucking dumb? the question was why do we defend her. it's entirely possible to defend people who have broken the law, because the law is not an objective moral or philosophical compass.

>>84155181
Too bad the law doesn't work around your personal moral code you dumb little faggot. Oh wait, not too bad, because your moral code is obviously shit

>>84151133
Don't think it's what you want but all I can think of is Gone Girl

>>84155180
I guess McDonalds is guilty for getting people fat after all

>>84154888
The indication that he had a diminished capacity is that he was suicidal.

>>84154890
Being depressed can be mental illness, and in his case, likely was. If you think anything else about it, you yourself may be suffering from severe mental retardation. Sorry you had to find out like this.

I'm pretty convinced the only people defending this cunt are edgelords and faggots who want to troll roasties who rejected them on Facebook. This wasn't a one off thing where she said "lol kill yourself." It was a continuous campaign to get him to commit suicide by being manipulative.

>>84155129
>sweet girl
You fucking what? She tormented him day and night urging him to off himself. It isn't murder but she is criminally responsible for his death.

>>84155260
>The indication that he had a diminished capacity is that he was suicidal.

So I guess anyone who claims they were "suicidal" is no longer responsible for any crimes they commit

>>84155241
>taking advantage of people's weaknesses for personal profit even though it harms them
In a way, but McDonalds isn't in a personal relationship with its customers.

>>84151409
if someone tells you kys do you do it?

kys

>>84155216
Which is completely irrelevant because we aren't discussing the law you dullard.

>>84155319
>he actually thinks McDonalds bears responsibility for their customers choosing to eat there too much

You the kind of nigga that wanted to ban GTA in the 90s because muh chilluns

>taking anti-depressants under any circumstance

It didn't have to be this way, America.

>>84155260
>by being manipulative.

Manipulation is not coercion. People are manipulative all the times, people are often manipulative to people to get them to do things that they think would be good for the person

>>84151652
>According to psychiatrist Peter Breggin, she became delusional because of changing her antidepressant medication from Prozac which she took from the age of 14 to Celexa a few months prior.

>14 years old
>on Prozac

How is this allowed

>>84155366
No because video games don't cause violence or whatever you're trying to say.

Although a better example would be cigarette companies since they knew they were dangerous and people trusted them enough to not sell them something addicting/dangerous.

>>84151133
Just find a documentary about Manson
The precedent is there, she is fucked

>>84155319
and what do you qualify as a personal relationship? What if I'm dating a McDonald's manager, and then I get diabitus, should I be entitled to a million shekels according to respondeat superior? What if me and the manager weren't actually fucking but shared tender moments like watching Chronicles of Shannara together in a dimly lit room while holding hands? Does that count?

>>84155522
No that does not count.

>>84155305
Being drunk means you have a diminished capacity as well, but it doesn't absolve you of your crimes. It's not a "get out of jail free" card, you mong.

>>84155415
So if you manipulate someone out of all of their money, you're a-okay, right? Or if you convince them to commit self harm, knowing fully well they are predisposed to it or otherwise vulnerable.

I like all the dumbasses in the thread talking about how sane this kid was too, despite the fact that he clearly wasn't, because he FUCKING KILLED HIMSELF.

>>84155448
Big Pharma with legal kickbacks to doctors and cramming advertisements into peoples media.
Doctors are more than willing to prescribe it because people walk into the door already convinced they want it.

The opioid epidemic is even worse...

>>84155260
You don't understand how "mental illness" works legally.

>>84155448
Because parents and teachers don't want to deal with kids problems, because pharmaceutical companies like making billions selling pills for every anal itch, and because law makers like to get re-elected.

This case has caused me to stop talking to and hanging around betas and the feeble minded.

You never know when they could snap and do harm, and now the government is out to get anyone within the vicinity

>>84155563
why not?

>>84155264
She spent two years telling him not to kill himself and then started taking the same suicidal thought causing medication he was and was like "maybe it wouldn't be so bad."

>>84155454
>No because video games don't cause violence or whatever you're trying to say.

Yes they do: http://education-curriculum-reform-government-schools.org/w/2012/12/violent-video-games-promote-violence/

>>84151133
>defending a psychopath

Pathetic.

>>84155952
If you had actually read the thread, very few people here are defending her innocence. I personally believe the conviction/sentence they're trying to administer is far too harsh. I believe she does deserve some punishment.

>>84151409
She literally talked him back into it when he was drugged up and backing out. This is more extreme than telling someone on /v/ to kill themselves, she actually delighted in listening to him die.

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>>84156830
she was teaching him not to be a quitter, faggot. if he backed out, he would be a bigger pussy than just doing it

>>84156172
>I personally believe the conviction/sentence they're trying to administer is far too harsh.

They always do this, so that she can plea bargain and get an adequate sentence. Dont sell yourself short, let them bargain down

>>84151409
If everyone I told to kys did 4chan would be empty

This thread is edgy as fuck.

If someone is in a place that they're serious about suicide and, knowing this, you persist in talking them into it, then you're effectively manipulating someone with a diminished capacity.

Pretty sure convincing a retard or a child to kill themselves would result in a prison sentence.

ITT: Faggots that should unironically commit suicide lel

>>84151223
Why does George Springer keep getting posted on /tv/?

>>84151133

They were both depressed and she was trying to help him in a benevolent way. There is no two ways about it. She doesn't deserve ANY kind of sentencing.

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hey guys which tv show or film are you all talking about here, never heard of it sorry for being ignorant

>>84157353
>edgy
The tourist's favorite buzzword. see
>>84157360

>>84151822
>heh, I'm gonna use this as a chance to virtue signal

fuck off loser

>>84157353
As a person that has twice been hospitalized as a result of antidepressant medication making me want to kill myself, it's a fucked situation. They where both being poisoned by fucking SSRIs and he been an annoying faggot about for years. She gets put on the meds that where making him suicidal and suddenly she thinks it's for the best if it's really what he wants.

It's terrifying thinking back on the haze of time when I was on SSRIs. They change how your internal logic works. They change how you think in a way that you're incapable of self-awareness that things are changing. Next thing you know you bought rope and you're driving to a national park, having spent all your money on an expensive bottle of scotch.

>>84151512
Have you read the chat logs? He very clearly wasn't.

>>84157353
/tv/ is a fucking joke of a board, so don't take it seriously.

>>84152048
>because this is the kind of shit that happens in europe, not america.

what?
>be american
>get caught with a joint
>get 50 consecutive life sentences

>>84157639
People really aren't bringing up the drug angle enough, they both had their heads fucked with.

I don't know much about the American legal system, but why is it the judge's fault? Aren't you tried by a jury? I know the judge does the actual sentencing, but shouldn't it be on the jury to not find her guilty in the first place?

i think it's dumb she was prosecuted

he was being a bitch boy crying constantly about how he was gonna end it all when he obviously wasnt

she got fed up with and eventually switched to "fine, fucking do it" mode

I wish you guys argue this passionately about actual films, not just about whatever is the current popular event.

>>84157556

If you get a sense of validation from not using a certain website, you should take your own advice.

>>84151657
I am actually celebrating her getting BTFO. It's just that /tv/ is full of whiteknighting betas. The cunt deserves her 20.

>>84158624
Counterpoint: how many times on 4chan have you told beta faggots like the guy in this case to kill themselves?

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>>84151133
>she will never tell you to kill yourself
Why even live guys?

She's going to get 18 months in a low security women's prison and will be paroled after 9 months.

Can't wait to see how mad it makes all the betas.

Fuck that is one ugly cunt. Nevermind the fivehead, her facial features are two times too small for the size of her giant fucking head. Not to mention she's fucking BALDING.

Defintely /ourgirl/.

>>84158624
See >>84158332. Despite the subject matter, this isn't an /r9k/ thread.

>>84151133
Spoken like a true beta orbiter.

>>84151133
is she a rich man's cara devangeline?

>>84151409
People who commit suicide often have irrational reasons for doing so. We shouldn't hold others responsible for some people's irrational decisions.

>>84159156
>enraging betas is more important than justice

>>84159273
I just wanted to clarify something that I don't think has been mentioned yet. News reports are characterizing them as boyfriend/girlfriend but they were in a long distance relationship at best. I'm not even sure they lived in the same state.

>>84159298
surprisingly yes.

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>>84159340

For someone on the other side of the world it is.

>>84159423
Adding to this, I think she does deserve some blame here but the guy seems like a massive attention whoring pussy that constantly bombarded her with his woe is me bullshit instead of seeking real help.

>>84157382
I'm trying to figure this out as well. I think its one really dedicated samefag.

>>84159688
I saw him on one of the party rock anthem memes. Maybe that's his walk up music for an at-bat.

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>>84151133
The Amanda Knox documentary

Except she most likely did do Meredith Kercher herself, or at least assisted in some way.

>>84157639
>Next thing you know you bought rope and you're driving to a national park, having spent all your money on an expensive bottle of scotch.

If it wasn't for Catholicism, that's what would have happened to Mel Gibson 10+ years ago

>>84159667
It should be noted she did spend a long time trying to get him help.

>>84151133
>Amanda Knox

>>84159977
That too. Eventually she either gave up thinking he wouldn't actually go through with it or maybe thought it was what he really wanted.

>>84159758
John Douglas (FBI profiler) did a few chapters on her case in a book I read. I really think she was completely innocent, which is tragic because the incident pretty much ruined her life.

The killer was just some nog who fit the profile for this kind of murder in every way. Meanwhile, it would be completely out of character for her (or anyone of her background) to be involved in something like this.

>>84151274
sexy and dangerous, she would kill you with a smartphone

>>84151652
>antidepressant
>may increase suicidal thinking and behavior in those under age 24
I am confused.

>>84160124
Presumably because people under the age of 24 are still going through a lot of chemical/hormonal changes. That's my guess anyway.

>>84160073
Conveniently for her, Italians hate niggers. So it took one nigger to take the blame. Still, she might be innocent; might not be innocent. We'll never know for sure.

>>84151536
>George Bowen case from 1816
manson case would work just as easily

>>84159340
>the mentally ill need justice, not treatment
dipshit thinking like this is what caused the faggot to get bamboozled into an hero in the first place.

>>84151459
if you watch this prepare to be pissed the fuck off, Mads is excellent but it made me so sad/mad i had to stop watching it.

>psychopathic attention whore sloot gets BTFO

kek

>beta offs himself
>worthy of a trial
lmao

>>84160468
Manson place did not involve a suicide... and took place in California, you baka desu

>>84160468
It would be interesting to see someone try to argue that but I seriously doubt it would hold much water.

>>84160468
HAHHA

Reminder that bruce jenner outright killed someone, now where is his 20 years jailtime?

>>84162529
Bruce Jenner killed someone, Caitlyn Jenner didn't kill anyone.

>>84162529
>now where is his 20 years jailtime?
*her lol

>>84157136
Is Pepe the new trollface?

>all these betas defending this dumb cunt because they want to sex her
If she was fat no one would. She's fucking ugly though.

>>84158332
>he was being a bitch boy crying constantly about how he was gonna end it all when he obviously wasnt
So you're admitting that she caused him to commit suicide?

>>84158912
Countercounterpoint: How many of those beta faggots knew that Anon personally and thought they could trust him?

>>84151409
Even the ACLU thinks it's bullshit:

There is no law in Massachusetts making it a crime to encourage someone, or even to persuade someone, to commit suicide. Yet Ms. Carter has now been convicted of manslaughter, based on the prosecution’s theory that, as a 17-year-old girl, she literally killed Mr. Roy with her words. This conviction exceeds the limits of our criminal laws and violates free speech protections guaranteed by the Massachusetts and U.S. Constitutions.

The implications of this conviction go far beyond the tragic circumstances of Mr. Roy’s death. If allowed to stand, Ms. Carter’s conviction could chill important and worthwhile end-of-life discussions between loved ones across the Commonwealth.

>>84162857
I understand the circumstances but see my posts here >>84159423
and here >>84159667

>>84163007
He still knew her personally. Also instead of walking him through committing suicide she could have just not replied.

>>84163070
Right. Like I said, she deserves some blame and punishment but trying to give her 20 years is ridiculous.

>>84151133
>falling for the poor wittle white girl act again

Anyone who defends her (aside from the edgy 14 yr Olds from Pol) has not read the texts she sent him and don't know she did it so she can get attention after his death

>>84151179
/pol/, /r9k/ /v/, /sp/, and r/the_donald

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On one hand the guys probably deserved to die, on the other the girl probably deserves to be in a jail cell
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>84163296
Can you tell us exactly what she did that was illegal? Because suicide isn't illegal in Mass., and neither is encouraging or persuading someone to commit suicide. The judge is claiming she LITERALLY murdered him when she texted "get back in", which is horseshit.

>>84151133
I'm glad she got convicted hopefully this will make you edgelords realize telling someone to commit suicide is not funny nor cool but FRICKEN ILLEGAL!

>>84162970
>b-b-but words are intangible! th-that means they can't kill people!

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>>84163161
seriously why do you guys never learn

>>84163296
Still doesn't mean she should receive such a harsh sentence. Like others have said though, it's going to be appealed and she'll end up serving like nine months.

>>84163141
Oh, well I mean she's not going to get 20 years, sure, maximum sentences are usually pretty crazy.

>>84163350
win-win?

>>84163433
There's no precedent for this ruling, and it will likely be overturned on appeal, but you have certainly owned me by green-texting something I didn't say and ignoring the first amendment.

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>>84163460
>>84163442
She's not gonna do 20 years that's absurd but that guilty verdict by the judge when the lawyer specifically asked to forgo a trail by jury because they said it could lead to emotion sentencing... and the judge still found her guilty gave me the biggest boner. I hope she owns up to the things she said and give an apology or some shit, it's the only way society would probably forgive her with this widespread news coverage.

Wow. She would have been fuck off if she told his beta cuck to fuck off and cut off all communication with him knowing that he was suicidal.

>>84163744
*She would have been BETTER off...

>>84163363
Because the dude was not in full control of his actions because of his depression and shit and so you could say he was mentally handicapped and she was the person he trusted and she made him do it saying how she'll take care of his family and sisters etc..

And she did all that just so she can get attention from other kids in high school.. That's her thought process.. Would you want a person who thinks like this out in public?

I might be biased because I've known people who went through the shit the poor guy went through and it sickens me how she could do that to someone who loved her and trusted her

>>84163773
Reminder that she was on the exact same anti-depressants as he was

>>84155264
not really he was going to do it no matter what and craved attention. if it was a broad we'd all have forgotten this trial.

>>84153041
>if she's guilty for involuntary manslaughter for telling him to kill himself, the entire 4chan will be guilty if some faggot decides to an hero

Yes, a bunch of randos in the internet telling you to kill yourself and your girlfriend telling you to kill yourself, same thing.

>>84163296
You people are unbelievable.

It doesn't matter how upset her texts make you. Your emotions, and everyone else's, are irrelevant to her legal liability. Coaxing someone into suicide is literally not illegal. There's no criminal law that her conduct violated.

It doesn't matter how reprehensible or awful she is--if her conduct didn't violate a law, then she's not guilty of breaking a law. You people don't have the most basic, fundamental understanding of the legal system.

Legal experts all over the country comment about this, but little betas get upset, therefore, she's guilty. Fucking morons.

And why are you people even on 4chan if you imagine that it should be a crime to be mean to some idiot? This site is 80% being mean to people, many of whom are idiots.

>>84163773

Actual exchange between Carter and the victim:

CONRAD ROY: How was your day?
MICHELLE CARTER: When are you doing it?
CONRAD: Since you don’t get your snapchat anymore, I sent them to you.
CARTER: (Smiley face) My day was okay. How was yours?
CONRAD: Good.
CARTER: Really?
CONRAD: Yes.
CARTER: That’s great. What did you do?
CONRAD: Ended up going to work for a little bit and then just looked stuff up.
CARTER: When are you gonna do it? Stop ignoring the question

Sounds like typical vengeance bullshit.

Guy killed himself, people are sad and feel someone has to be blamed for it.

>>84163903

CARTER: You’re so hesitant because you keeping over thinking it and keep pushing it off. You just need to do it, Conrad. The more you push it off, the more it will eat at you. You’re ready and prepared. All you have to do is tum the generator on and you will be free and happy. No more pushing it off. No more waiting.
CONRAD: You’re right.
CARTER: If you want it as bad as you say you do it’s time to do it today.
CONRAD: Yup. No more waiting.
CARTER: Okay. I’m serious. Like you can’t even wait ’till tonight. You have to do it when you get back from your walk.
CONRAD: Thank you.
CARTER: For what?
CONRAD: Still being here.
CARTER: I would never leave you. You’re the love of my life, my boyfriend. You are my heart. I’d never leave you.
CONRAD: Aw.
CARTER: I love you.
CONRAD: Love you, too.
CARTER: When will you be back from your walk?
CONRAD: Like, five minutes.
CARTER: Okay. So you gonna do it?

>>84153705
>that hairline
If I was dating her, I would've killed myself too.

On July 4, 2014, a week before Conrad Roy's death, Michelle Carter sent him a series of angry texts after a failed suicide attempt the previous night:
Conrad Roy: hey sorry I just took sleeping pills and fell asleep
Michelle Carter: So it didn't work
Michelle Carter: That's such a lie
Michelle Carter: You said you wanted this bad. I knew you weren't gonna try hard
Michelle Carter: I feel like such an idiot
Conrad Roy: Why
Michelle Carter: Because you didn't even do anything! You lied about this whole thing! You said you were gonna go to the woods and do it and you said things that made me feel like maybe you were actually serious, and I poured my heart out to you thinking this was gonna be the last time I talked to you. And then you tell me you took sleeping pills? Whixh [sic] first of all I know that's a lie because you already said you wouldn't get enough and idk how you would of [sic] got them. I'm just so confused. I thought you really wanted to die but apparently you don't, I feel played and just stupid
Conrad Roy: Don't I found out a new plan. and I'm gonna fo [sic] it tonight
Michelle Carter: I don't believe you
Michelle Carter: You're gonna have to prove me wrong because I just don't think you really want this. You just keeps [sic] pushing it off to another night and say you'll do it but you never do
Conrad Roy: okay
Michelle Carter: Okay what?
Conrad Roy: I'll prove you wrong
Michelle Carter: What are you planning on doing?
Michelle Carter: Poision [sic] would work
Conrad Roy: Carbon monoxide or helium gas. I want to deprive myself of oxygen
Conrad Roy: don't feel like an idiot it's gonna happen
Michelle Carter: Tonight?
Conrad Roy: Eventually
Michelle Carter: Cute J haha I love you
Michelle Carter: SEE THATS WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you're saying eventually….

>>84163296
Anyone who believes it's a crime to be mean to a stupid loser is an emotionally crippled weakling.

You're probably the same people who think it's not terrible to invite poor, uneducated muslims to live in nice countries. It takes the same mindless emotionalism to come to both of these conclusions.

>>84164220

there's a chasm sized gulf between being mean and talking a headcase into killing himself. be fucking reasonable.

The faggot who killed himself was an attention whoring faggot who deserves to be dead for listening to a woman, but I'm always glad to see the pussy pass fail, hope this cunt enjoys her 2 years

>>84163892
>literally "DO IT FAGGOT"

is she, dare I say, /ourgirl/?

this bitch is crazy

>defending the concept of people getting jailed for saying meanie stuff over the internet
Bunch of kikes

>>84164609
Read the texts dumbass

>>84163889
Most people reacting against this are really acting on emotion with little to no knowledge of the law. What's surprising is how the judge acted.

>>84163889
>Coaxing someone into suicide is literally not illegal.

Yes it is - according to this case it's not manslaughter in the 4th degree.

>tfw you literally have to kill yourself just to get your gf to lose weight and be attractive

>>84151133
>white """""people"""""

>>84151133

Did Cara kill somebody??

>>84164266
Nope. It's a subjective interpretation.
>headcase
Just how fucked up is the guy? If his IQ is above 90, and he hasn't shown some sort of extreme mental illnesses requiring inpatient treatment and mind-altering medication, then this is just being mean to a loser, which is in no way remotely illegal.

Being simply depressed doesn't cut it.

>>84164660
>oh they were extra mean and naughty, what a poor helpless boy!
Just go back to your safe space website.

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>>84158203
desu I'd rather let some pothead get 50 life sentences than one person get probation for speaking their mind

>>84165064
But there's no law, no statute or judicial precedent, that agrees. That's the problem. This is a rogue judge making an emotional decision.

The judge DRASTICALLY expanded the legal definition of "manslaughter" by concluding that coaxing someone into suicide fits the definition. It's a poor legal decision and stands a great chance to get overturned, as it should.

It's literally just "This girl hurst our wittle feelings, lets makes 'manslaughter' mean a lot more than it has for the past 300 years XD!"

>>84162970
>There is no law in Massachusetts making it a crime to encourage someone, or even to persuade someone, to commit suicide.

There are plenty of laws. One not reporting a life endangered that you know about is a crime. Two encouraging a death is a crime. Three it is well established constitutional law that not all speech is protected, like yelling fire in a movie theater.

>>84152561
My fiancee is highly suicidal and I tell her to kill herself all the time when she's acting like a whiny bitch. Her Dad does the same thing. 9/10 times she stops crying immediately and then 5 mins later is laughing at how illogical she was being. The 1/10 time she cries harder and eventually shuts up and comes around 5 mins after laughing as usual.

If you kill yourself its suicide. Your own volition. No one has any reason to stop you and if you're looking for a way to back out you'll find one yourself. Kys.

>>84153804
>>84154539
>>84164026
samefag much?

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>>84155022
But did she violate the NAP?

>>84165839
and people laughed at me when I said anarchist pacifist could use psychological methods to defend themselves

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>>84163492
From another perspective the drug companies and parents should be hung legally at least if not literally.

>>84153967
>believing in fairy tales past the age of 5 is a good option

>>84165666
>It's literally just "This girl hurst our wittle feelings, lets makes 'manslaughter' mean a lot more than it has for the past 300 years XD!"

That's clearly exaggerating the decision.

Her interactions with him were more in the vein of a cult leader grooming a person into drinking the koolaid. She wanted him to kill himself so she could be the victim and start an instagram career - it wasn't just 4chan bantz like you autists think it was.

>>84152130
You have a very limited understanding of the law if you can't understand why pushing someone to commit suicide is illegal and you're probably retarded if you believe that people like her should be walking the streets.

>>84151133
>Suicide is a crime
Lol

His family was said to be abusive, why aren't they on the hook for his depression and eventual suicide? Considering he was suicidal before this girl encouraged it and even a history of suicide attempts they should be on the hook too.

>>84163889
>if you imagine that it should be a crime to be mean to some idiot
You keep insisting that she was being mean to him. She wasn't.

>>84164157
>Because you didn't even do anything! You lied about this whole thing!
She sounds pretty disappointed about it. Like maybe she was personally eager for him to commit suicide.