I'm about to start watching DS9. I saw a few episodes as

Use this guide here, its pretty damn reliable.

http://imgur.com/dgtwjyp

And enjoy the trip. DS9 is Trek Kino.

>>84124863

Nice. Thanks, anon.

>>84124555
Forget the guides, just start watching, and then start skip watching ones you don't want to, e.g. after one vedek bariel episode you may decide you never want to watch another one with him in it, and thats a good choice

>>84124555
All ferengi episodes are golden

All keiko episodes are shit, skip em

>>84125629
keiko is the worst character out of ALL star trek characters and thats even including the new movies

>it's a mirror universe episode

Am I the only one that hates this shit?

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NO SKIP!

>>84125684
Nah man.
Wesley got far more screentime and we've had to put up with Wil Wheaton ever since.

>>84124863
yep
>>84125629
yep

ds9 takes a while to get going until all the tng writers got over there but it's a great ride! come to think of it i will probably rewatch this very soon

>>84124863

I just watched The Visitor last night, fuckin kino episode. Candyman playing older Jake Sisko is based.

Fuck that watch all of it. Even bad episodes can be very entertaining, and everyone likes different things.

DS9 is the best Star Trek show, enjoy anon!

>>84125517
You're a faggot. Even if you don't like Bareil, the episodes with him in them are essential to understanding the overall plot. DS9 is not like TNG where every episode is disconnected to the rest and nothing means anything for the future. It's an ongoing and changing story.

>>84127227
no shit, thats why you skip watch the majority of his eps, doesn't mean you don't watch it at all, faggot

>>84127324
not him but wtf is "skip watch"?! you fucking nimrod

>>84125698
What, all of them?

The final two were garbage, but the first one was golden and the next two were decent.

>>84127390
Calm down bareil you seem upset, when you've seen some shows as many times as I have you can watch scenes and skip others, I guess this doesn't work for a first time though

>>84127390
I assume it's where you watch the parts of an episode that are relevant to the seasonal arc while skipping the rest. A good option for people who want a condensed story without all the padding that stretches the story out into a seven year long tv show.

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>>84125698
>>84127415

The only one I've enjoyed so far was the TOS episode "Mirror Mirror"...every other one seemed to be trying too hard.

>although I kind of liked pic related just for alt-riker's manic line delivery and hipster/homeless look

Funnily enough, the Voyager episode with the clone crew that started dissolving (can't recall the name), and had to cope with the fact that they were nothing more than a weird copy made by an anomaly and were inevitably dying, was more interesting to me than "oh look it's a parallel universe where the main characters are slightly different and/or evil due to different historical events"

Most of Voyager is still hot garbage, though.

>>84127489
yes sir, that's kinda what i was getting at. not at all did i express that tho

>>84127324
>>84127390
>>84127489
>>84127497

I plan to basically skip most of the "okay" episodes on the chart posted by >>84124863, but if any anons have recommendations of "okay" episodes I should 'skip watch', I'm all eyes.

>>84124555
Dont skip

You cant discuss the /tv/ memes unless you know the shit episodes

If you dont know what MOVE ALOONGG HOOMEEE and the Rumpelstiltskin episodes are like then you can fuck off to Reddit

>>84127564
>>84124863

>"Dax" is bad
>"Invasive Procedures" is bad
>All these 'not important' episodes

I hate these guides so much. It's all opinions.

>>84127564
upon quick review of the list i would skip the only the okay episodes with "none" plot points. but overall >>84127610 is correct

>>84127564
thats a terrible plan, ignore my skipwatching shit, just watch everything, if you really have trouble with an ep fine, but don't go in planning on skipping half the episodes before even giving them a go, if nothing else you'll miss out on the random station life banter that usually starts every ep before the plot kicks in

>>84127610

After being told not to skip and TOS episodes, and attempting to watch the unholy cringefest that is "Shore Leave", I have a hard time convincing myself that it's worth it to watch famously bad episodes of Trek.

Granted, every series is different in terms of its episodic progression...I do plan to grab the complete series anyways, so I'll probably watch everything eventually.

>O'Brian: "Biological Data viruses are part and parcel of living on Deep Space Nice"

>>84127652
Quality is subjective but importance is pretty objective, no? What are some "not important" episodes you disagree with?

>>84127690

That's exactly what I'm going to do, at least for a first viewing of the series. If anything has even "minor" importance, I'm watching it.

>>84127564
Some of the "okay" episodes are among my favourites, specifically Prophet Motive and Our Man Bashir.

>>84127701

kek

>>84127699
One good thing about DS9 is that all the worst episodes are in season 1 , so if you can get through that without skipping you are set

>>84127699
shore leave is great fuck you

>>84127731
Depends what you mean by important. To me, stories that tell us a lot of information about characters ARE important episodes. For example "Dax" gives a lot of information about Dax and Trills, as well the nature of the Curzo/Sisko and the new Jadzia/Sisko relationships.

Likewise, "The Armageddon Game" to me is very important for the Bashir/O'Brien relationship.

The list would go on.

>>84127807
I'd have to disagree with that, I'm only halfway through season 5 but for me neither of the two episodes that stick in my mind as the worst are in the first season. The one where Dax falls in love with the man whose planet phases into another dimension and the one where Jake is molested by an alien vampire are both fucking awful.

I think the only acceptable ones to skip are the Lwaxana Troi episodes

Every time I rewatch DS9 I can get through Move Along Home and the other really bad episodes

but the Troi ones are such dogshit they make me want to die

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So /trek/, which actor produced the best music after Star Trek? Spiner or Brooks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPZ5j5Ia48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUbxVlOcujw

I think the answer is obvious.
Sisko

>>84127880
Jake became so annoying later on while Nog remained great.

>>84127900
There is only one

>>84127903
of course shatner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul-Y8vSr0I

>>84127926
There are three

and one of them is the episode >>84127880
mentioned where the B plot is jake being molested "The Muse" is probably the worst episode in the series

>>84127900
I try cause shes majel but its been years since I could make it through a whole lwaxana episode without skipping at least a bit, she was better in ds9 then tng tho imo

>>84127938
Is he drunk?

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>>84127926
There's one where Odo becomes a puddle in her skirt, there's another one where she marries Odo because some guy wants to steal her child and there's one where she makes everyone in the station horny.

>>84127880
Jake got real annoying really fast after the episode where Sisko got trapped in another dimension.

>>84127982
Hmm I only remember one and I've seen the show 3 times, but I could be retarded.

The only truly bad episode of DS9 I can remember offhand is the one where they get stuck inside a board game

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>Captain, shields at zero. They've punched through the hull on decks eight, nine and twelve. Core breach imminent and they're charging their weapons up for another shot. They've also abducted several of the crew and have replaced Lieutenant Paris's liver with Neelix's severed head. They are not responding to our hails but have "KILL ALL FEDERATION" auto transmitting on a loop. Recommend return fire.

>Now now Mr. Tuvok... we're guests in the Delta Quadrant. We must make an attempt to understand all alien species we encounter. Beam over a bouquet of lillies and a box of chocolate.

>>84128033
No one is going to give you shit for deleting Lwaxana Troi episodes from your mind.

>>84128048
That felt like a TNG episode. I'm on the Vic Fontaine episode right now and i know the DBZ episode and Ferengi Women episode is next.

>>84128032
>here Odo come rest inside of my womb I will keep you safe

>>84128025
probably, ask Bill he's around here somewhere

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>Very next episode

>"Captain, the Kazon ship has been disabled and is retreating, the logical course of action would be to cease combat and resume course for Earth"

>"They can leave when I say they can Tuvok, fuck the Prime Directive, beam that space nigger crew directly into the vacuum of space then collect their corpses. I want them as dead as Tuvix. We can recycle their matter and replicate some coffee"

>>84128096
>>84128066
In other words a 100% realistic depiction of a female captain. Based Voyager.

>>84127153
The writer girl in that episode is Garak's IRL daughter.

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>>84128066
>>84128096
Goddammit, i lost my shit.

100% accurate, read it in her voice.

>>84128048
i dunno hearing Quark beg kinda made it worth it

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>>84128066
>>84128096

>>84124555
Quark x Odo best ship

>>84127838
I can agree with your argument about Armageddon Game, but I think you're wrong about the rest. Importance is about the story, and how much an episode changes the story going forwards, not backwards.

>>84128349
My point wasn't that I'm right and people who disagree are wrong, only that the guide should not be used because different things will be important to different people and everyone will like different episodes.

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What is your favorite Punished O'Brien episode, and why is it Hard Time?

is ds9 less cheesy than tng because i'm trying to get into star trek and i'm not liking tng at all

>>84128452
Tribunal

>>84128465
Far less campy.

>>84128465
The reason TNG is so revered is because Patrick Stewart is great and it was the show that everyone grew up watching. If you're being completely objective it's hard to argue that TNG is as good as DS9 overall.

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>>84128452
Nah, its just him being punished and he knows his family is fine.

Times Orphan is much worse for him, knowing he has lost his daughter forever to being a savage and having to raise the autistic husk of a child he lost through his own carelessness as it destroys his family

>>84128435
>everyone will like different episodes
That's why quality and importance are separate in the first place.
>different things will be important to different people
In general though, I think _most_ people understand that, say, Rules of Acquisition has minor importance because The Dominion are mentioned for the first time, or The Begotten has major importance because Odo gets his groove back, or that Trials and Tribble-Ations has no importance because, even though it's a great episode, it has no consequences and is never referred to ever again (Enterprise notwithstanding).

>>84128465
DS9 is less cheesy, but also you should know that TNG improves massively once you reach season 3.

>>84127838
>>84127767

Noted, I'll check out these episodes.

>>84128587
but its still not accurate, the explorers has no importance but its the episode that introduces leeta

>>84128823
Yo they were merely examples that came to mind. My advice would be to watch every episode.

>>84128866
Good point. Hopefully it'll be fixed in the next version.

>>84128066

>European politics in a nutshell

>>84128866
Leeta got like 15 combined minutes of screentime in the entire run of the series

>>84128452

Looks like Karl Marx

>>84128928
30 if you count both breasts

>>84128928
so? if they got on the baseball team their important

>>84128465

TNG is hard to get through at first, but like >>84128621 said, if you can make it to season 3 things get much better. It's season 3 onward where TNG shines.

>>84128556
this is also the episode you almost feel a tiny bit of something for keiko, almost

>>84129093
In the Hands of the Prophets tho.

>>84129170
>In the Hands of the Prophets
I'd say you feel for o'brien when he thinks shes dead, I still felt nothing but a mild hate for keiko, iirc its been about a year since I've watched it

>>84129170
Keiko was badass in that one

>>84124555
Star trek is unbingeable.

Just watch all the episodes. Seriously.

DS9 is a 7 year arc. Even bad episodes have important bits of character development. And even if the plot is bad, the characters are good enough to make it enjoyable enough.

Let He Who Is Without Sin...is the best example of this. The story is dogshit but seeing Worf be all uppity right winger and shit is hilarious.

>>84129324
Thank you. This man understands.

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>>84128066
>these dudes want to take 7of9 with them
>"we could just ignore them, but you know what? let's plot against them and ruin their shit just because"
George will never be safe from being fucked, not even in the Delta Quadrant.

>>84130538

>"she had 'man hands'"
>"he had a 'vagina face'"

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>it's a baseball episode

>>84124555
Just skip everything until the Dominion War.

>>84130746
I love this episode. And I don't know anything about baseball.

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>it's a DBZ episode

>>84130888
>I see your Schwartz is a big as mine!

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>>84130767

>>84124555
Watching everything.
Skip nothing.
If you skip anything you are a massive casual faggot and should off yourself.

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>>84130718

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>it's an ambojitsu episode

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24 year old lifetime Star Wars and LOTR fan who never really got in to trek but enjoyed the 3 new movies and thus decided to try out TNG and later TOS.

Have to say i've been using some guys guide to best episodes of TNG and so far they have been pretty good. Just watched A Matter of Honor and Making of a Man ad both were super good.

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>>84131257
>ambojitsu
It's anbo-jyutsu REEEEEEEEEE

>>84130746
>read that as Niggers
I've been on /pol/ too long.

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>>84131527
>aroshgu omegashimas
What did they mean by that?

>>84131281
>24 year old lifetime Star Wars and LOTR fan who never really got in to trek but enjoyed the 3 new movies and thus decided to try out TNG and later TOS.
in other words, reddit

Im proud to say I got my gf into trek and she has now seen all of TNG and DS9

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>>84127191
>>84127610
>>84127691
>>84129324
>>84130940

Just curious...if I were, say, about to watch another Trek series, would you folks say the same thing if I said I intended to skip episodes?

Many people skip MOST of Voyager (if not all), same thing with the worst episodes of TNG Seasons 1 & 2. Not even going to mention Enterprise...

Is DS9 truly unique because its seasons are tied together by a central narrative/story that unfolds over all seven seasons? If so, then what's wrong with skipping episodes that have little to no important character development moments in addition to having little (or nothing) to do with the central plot that makes DS9 unique?

After reading a lot of the remarks in this thread, I might just go for it and watch everything...at least at some point if not during my first viewing of the series...I'm just curious about the relationship between "watch it all" and then "story arc" of DS9 that sets it apart from other Trek series that have 'looser' stories that get picked up and dropped more frequently compared to DS9 (apparently)

>>84131747
It's not quite like a show like Game of Thrones or The Wire where EVERYTHING is continuous (except the last season), but it is half way there. So yes out of the Star Trek series it is an exception, not only because the story is much more continuous but also there aren't as many bad episodes. Even some of the supposed "terrible" episodes like Move Along Home are actually not bad.

>>84131747
DS9 is just that good that no episode is so awful you have to skip it

Also, one of the best episodes in all of trek happens in season 1 already, so there isnt really a gestation period before the show gets going.

Although DS9 has some long arcs, it is first and foremost about the characters more than any other Trek show, and in particular the way they come together over the seasons. Every episode is a piece of the gradient between strangers and best friends, and you dont wanna miss any step of it

>>84131257
>You will never beat your dad with a big qtip while wearing a Nerf Robocop suit

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>>84131736
>yfw you pop someones star trek cherry

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The good old "DS9 is good Trek" meme.
I'll do you a favour and let you know that anyone who says this is just pulling your leg for a laugh.
DS9 is the worst of them all, including Enterprise.
Only the Original Series is truly great Trek, TNG and Voyager have some redeeming features, but they all lack the charm, stories and chemistry between the cast that the originals had.
And fuck all you fags who can't handle it because it "looks old" and you need cgi explosions and shit, you make me sick.

>>84132033
go to bed william

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>>84131747
>Is DS9 truly unique because its seasons are tied together by a central narrative/story that unfolds over all seven seasons?
not them but DS9 has an ensemble cast that the previous shows did not.

All other Trek shows were based on a trinity with varying degrees of support from others to expand the narrative. Spock/Bones/Kirk, Picard/Data/Riker, Archer/Trip/T'Pal, Janeway/Ch'kotay/7.

All the other's tried to have important characters that we cared about other than focusing on the prime 3 and succeeded to differing extents (Next Gen and Voyager tried the hardest, to varying degrees.)

tl;dr DS9 has a large cast of capable actors that will not be prominently featured in all episodes. If you find an arc between characters you like, watch it. You will miss out though if you skip too many since the series is spread out amongst so many players.

>>84131747
its not a compitition, just start from the beginning and watch if you find an episode unbearable for w/e reason skip it, that the one useful thing about these guides, you can double check and see if your going to miss something important, if you like star trek you'll want to watch more, voy is really annoying on many levels but again just watch from the beginning and if you really hate an ep once your watching it, skip it

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>>84132092
>cast of capable actors
>he thinks this was a capable actress

>>84132033

>le everyone is memeing you meme

That said, TOS is slowly becoming my favorite Trek series...I used to love TNG best, but I find it has less re-watch value compared to TOS. There's just more charm to it, and the pacing doesn't feel as 'rushed' even when tension is being built. TNG comes close, though.

>>84132092

Interesting point, I never considered things from that perspective. Thanks.

>>84132033
dude you sound almost exactly like the Entonly faggot, stop, TOS is great so is tng and ds9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVHR0UPHERQ

is this the greatest acting in all trek?

>>84132158

She was capable of getting my dick hard

>>84132158
>posts well known heartthrob
>reply instantly
>feigns troll
You got your (you) mate, now post more Dax

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>it's a millennial has too much ADHD to watch the entirety of a television series episode
Stop this shit.

>>84132162
TOS reminds me of Casablanca. It's just predictable cliches that build upon one another to become endearing.

At the time it was groundbreaking though. Black chick and ruski + alien (was a jew) on bridge.

season 1 and 2 are kinda bad. except for 1x19 which is awesome.

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>>84132092
are you serious mate?

https://youtu.be/MY1FL_CDqE4

This was the most comically over the top acting I had ever seen, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it. Granted, Avery Brooks was known for a more eccentric style but this was ridiculously laughable.

>>84132254
>television series episode
wtf does that mean? One episode or an entire season of episodes or an entire series of a show?

>>84132199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2dBhj8sOM

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>>84132340

>>84132332
It's fine in context, you silly goose.

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>>84132332
sisko is incredible everything he does is pure gold, fite me fgt

>>84132332
Blame the director for taking that cut. Starts off well, goes to shit fast.

Avery was a stage actor before DS9, Like Stewart. Not over acting in stage, but the director obviously had no idea what to ask of him. That's not a bad episode, just another "hah let's put them in a not star trek setting and see what happens!"

>>84132419
Avery Brooks IS the director of that episode.

>That's not a bad episode
It regularly places in lists as one of the best episodes of all time.

>>84131747
>Just curious...if I were, say, about to watch another Trek series, would you folks say the same thing if I said I intended to skip episodes?

Yes I would, and I'll tell you why. I know for a fact that your time is not valuable. You have absolutely no need to skip episodes.

>>84131679
I hate reddit as much as the next guy, but if one can get a fraction of the new movie audience into the older TV series then it is for the better

>>84132296

I agree, somewhat. The thing is, when Casablanca was released, some of those things weren't yet cliches. The same goes for TOS.

Over time scenes/tropes/lines become cliches because they become more endearing due to nostalgia, and also due to repeated viewings by fans (repetition fucks with the limbic system of the brain, making it 'tag' things as significant the more humans see them).

I'm not sure about 'predictable', though...I think it varies from episode to episode. Some are somewhat predictable, while others are admittedly fairly by-the-numbers. I haven't watched TOS in a while so I'm at a loss for examples.

Something like The Prisoner, from roughly the same era in television, strikes me as far more 'unique' and 'experimental' than TOS...it generally handled the political nightmare of an Orwellian dystopia far better than TOS did for many of its ham0-handed 'political commentary' episodes, although admittedly TOS commented on a broader spectrum of political issues and only had an episode or two per issue to do so.

>>84132761

Ya got me there.

>>84132997

I meant to say "somewhat unpredictable", ffs.

>>84124555
>hing like The Prisoner, from roughly the same era in television, strikes me as far more 'unique' and 'experimental' than TOS...it generally handled the political nightmare of an Orwellian dystopia far better than TOS did for many of its ham0-handed 'political commentary' episodes
It was meant to be ham handed though. Ham was the only thing the late 60's TV executives understood :)

>>84125629

The one where she gets possessed is pretty good.

Do cross overs or cameos happen with the Star Trek shows series or are they all at completely different feature time periods in completely different galaxies or something?

I mean like a Xena/Hercules thing.

>>84133905

Riker called up Quark for some info on TNG once.

>>84133905
Same galaxy, and 3 time periods for 5 shows.

Characters do cross over from one series to another, but at no point is there, say, a 2-part story which begins in series X and finishes in series Y.

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Weird that this thread show up the same day I finished TNG and started DS9

Initial thoughts are thus: Bashir is best boy and Sisko is a cool guy.

>>84134334
>>84134334
imo, DS9 has the best overall cast of characters in all Star Trek.

>>84134446
Second

>>84124555
the most dangerous looking thing about DS9 is their fucking elevator. No door, no warning markers, no walls with tons of stuff to clip your clothing on, exposed electric wiring

shit is a huge occupational hazard

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>>84134498
Cardassian architecture

>>84134498
The most dangerous thing about DS9 is insulting the honor of a lady in front of Worf.

>>84133905
Cameos? All the time. Crossover stories? Not really.

>>84134498
no the most dangerous thing about ds9 is randomly triggering a computer program and getting the whole station gassed

ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS

Am I the only one that wanted to fuck Weyoun?

>>84134550
>It's a Worf kills Gowron chancellor of Klingon empire and a fucking Weyoun and bangs Ezri too in the same season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspTr5TdR4k

>>84134760
>Worf kills Gowron
I made a mistake coming to this thread when I just started the show
Gowron is the best Klingon, I'm so mad

>>84134808
You're fine, it was a mirrorverse episode.

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Behold. Star Trek's best boy.

Morn.

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>>84134847
Oh, thank god. I was spooked for a bit there.

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>its a Garak episode

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>>84135067
>its a Garak episode

>>84131281
You sound like one of those, "le fandom xD!" types. Please leave /trek/ and take your Funko Pop!s with you.

>>84124555
Kek. I have this picture with most of the cast members signed, but poor Ezra Dax has an autograph on her own paper.

>>84134943

Looks like something from a TOOL video

>tfw I saw them in concert recently

show was kino

>>84129258
elaborate
i did TOS and am now starting TNG and am beginning to agree with you, but would like to hear someone put it into words because i'm fucking ass at verbalizing my thoughts end my life

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>>84124555
NigTrek9 was a boring soap opera with a bunch of unlikeable characters, feminists everywhere, a token nig commander, and way too many space jews. It was the series that ruined Star Trek for all time, even more so than tng.

No thanks.

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>>84135077
>>84135067
>It's a Cardassian episode

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>>84136587
Delicious kanar.

>>84136839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZAzq1P27E

>>84127531
You have to admit, that was a really creative way of handwaving away the continuity issues VOY had.

"Oh, yeah. All those episodes you realized were fucky? Yeah, that was the other Voyager."

>>84136996
I don't think the implication was that any of the previous episodes were the clone crew, only that one episode.