Is this the greatest portrayal of a conservative character in television history?
>>84063877
WHAT IS "CONSERVATIVE" REGARDING JUDE LAW'S CHARACTER?
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT "CONSERVATIVE" MEANS?
>>84063877
Is this good? I'm not religious and have absolutely no interest in the pope, but I'm not a hater either.
>>84064128
its "le edgy modern christianity" show
>>84064105
>>84064169
t. didn't watch the show
>christianity
lol embarrassing
>>84064128
This is very good an literally pleb filter. You don't need to be Catholic to enjoy it. Great dialogue, refreshing scenes, and a slow burn but that's part of it. It holds Catholicism in a positive light but I like that a show can respect it's material - it's a very positive show compared to all the same cynical characters we see. Jude Law is amazing in it - he tries to bring the Catholic Church back to it's roots. Even says to kick out the fags. It's a slow burn but like all great shows [Sopranos,Mad Men], it works perfectly. I'm not religious but if a show is really good it can draw you in any subject with ease.
>>84063877
I'm looking forward to a second season. I don't think the character is especially conservative though. I'd say he's much more dogmatic.
>>84063877
idk about conservative characters, but I'm 100% sure it's the greatest portrayal of what a 10/10 show is like
>>84064661
>Doesn't know what "conservative" means...
>>84064902
How are they going to make a second season?He died at the end in Venice
Unless they're going to make Voiello the Pope. In which case I will continue to watch.
>>84063877
Jude Law is good, but the concept is shit, and the storyline is worse than shit.
He's a Traditionalist Catholic not a conservative.
>>84064998
They said they'll start shooting in late 2018, and it will be not focused on Lenny. In fact, they're not sure he will be there at all. I am quite confidenthe diedat the end of S1 and in S2 he'llappear in a vision, just like former popes appeared to him in S1,
because he has been made a saint
It's GoT tier shit and only GoT fans like it.
>I no believe in Dog
>lol jk
>ZOMG SUCH EDGY MUCH TWIST
Also everbody who says he's a traditionalist needs to hang himself. How it is possible to miss something that far is beyond me
>conservative figure
>>84064661
But that's what it is. It's like a Mary Sue fanfic by an alt-right teen who has just discovered Catholicism
pure kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUKWTkf5vs
>>84064128
Jude Law as Lenny is so satisfying to have on the screen, he dominates every scene and even when he isn't present, the writing and characters are great on their own merit. Probably my favourite TV character.
Best cardinal coming through
>>84066972
He has lots of flaws, is hated for most of the show, has 95% of the press against him. His supposed colleagues try to backstab him six gorillonz times and only fail because of incompetence, and the only satisfaction is that he performed two miracles in his life that were not done in public so no recognition.
>>84067305
Nigger cardinal was good but not enough screen presence.
>dude le edgy american pope
>>84067305
mio negro
>>84065114
He's just having a crisis of faith that reflects his own relationship with his parents. It's humanizing
>conservative
You keep saying that word
I do not think it means what you think it means
>>84067457
Fedoras don't grasp what a crisis of faith is though. Le ebin (a)gnostic (a)theist graph is all you'll get.
>>84065114
lol wtf man
>>84063877
Serious talk:
The series actually reflects how dumb such labels as "conservative" or "progressive" are.
Pope is an actual human being and incredibly complex character, he's dogmatic, he's revolutionary, he's a saint and doubts his faith etc. He's all of those things at once.
It's all outright stated.
That's why all of his adversaries fail - they think of him as someone who can be categorized as one of those things and refuse to look at him as a human, not a point on the ideological spectrum.
That's why it was made as a series and not a movie - movies has to condense characters to fit into narrative, and that's not how it works in real life. In the longer narrative you can actually explore the complexity of a human nature, and it's done brilliantly in the series.
The actual moral is - stop putting labels on people.
>>84065119
are you only "pretending" to be retarded?
it's conservative because it's a +2000 years old tradition
that guy isn't eruopean
the pope in this show is way different from the real current pope
>>84066972
No it isn't. Stop thinking in fucking 4chan buzzwords and see it for the honest show that it is. Oh wait, you can't.
>>84067769
Americans can't comprehend something if there are more than just left and right
>>84067305
No, fuck that little bitch. He was plotting against Lenny.
>>84065114
Low IQ detected, don't bother with this anon
>>84067769
4chan can't do that lol
Let the real plebs come forth
>>84068227
They all did at some point in the series, but they've all seen the truth by the end anyway
>>84064902
Season 1 was perfect imo, so I wasn't too happy with them doing a second. I love the subtle mystery of it and hope they don't attempt to explain too much of the story.
>>84068345
They plan on doing another story of another pope with other supporting characters, afaik
>>84065071
>>84064902
>>84064998
>>84068345
Ain't to season 2, it'll be a new show called New Pope with a new cast. Who knows if it's even set in Lennyverse. All we know is that Sorrentino is doing it, which is good enough I guess
>The Young Pope
>The New Pope
>The Last Pope
>>84067124
Unironically his best role ever. And nobody saw it lmao, what a loser
>>84068409
nigga that's like saying TD season 2 wasn't season 2
>>84066972
>Lenny
>Mary Sue
>American education
>>84063877
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfSBMHDhFng
>tfw
How did they make this show so sincere?
Great plebfilter as this thread also shows.
The Young Pope was the only piece of media that made me cry. Such a great show.
>>84063877
Yes.
>>84068909
evidence that honest filmmaking is still possiblr
>>84069138
faggoty comment reactions cropped in
I fucking loved this show, as did everyone in these threads when it aired in Europe.
Of course it is not perfect (sexy and you know it scene comes to mind), but it was made with such sincerity and attention to detail, just breathtaking.
The setting is beatiful, the cinematography, (most) music, the acting, the characters, the humor, I loved it all.
Voiello transforming from your average plotting adversary to a man with a heart who wants the best for the church (and humanity). Wonderfully done.
When are (((They))) gonna release a Muhammad tv show?
>>84070157
lol
what?